✅ NEW! T-Mobile's External Antenna - 5G Home Internet Arcadyan TMO-G4AR vs Waveform - Is it Faster? 

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I guess I'm lucky that I have a T-Mobile tower 1 street over from my house. I've had the service for 3 months now and have had Excellent service with no interruptions. I'm very happy I dropped Spectrum and signed up with T-Mobile.

Just want to say I followed your advice and went to a T-Mobile store and was able to get the new T-Mobile modem (white one) and my speeds went from average of 150-250mbs to 600mbs-1.2gbs for just 25 bucks a month is insane

Searching for improved signal in the house, your videos are just what I need. Awesome and thank you!

Thank you for the information, it changed my mind on the antenna situation, I'll be ordering a Waveform. The one thing that I really needed was seeing your attic installation. Now, I have work to do!

Smash the 👍 for Nater and his strong work here for you and our growing community. He saves everyone time, money, and perhaps what mileage you might expect. Lots of views here… so let’s have lots of 👍. 💯💪😊

Thank you for the honest review. You have saved a lot of people money and trouble that would not help them.

Very excited for this one. I live in NY state. Internet here is very slow, only 1mbps DSL. But I am looking at Tmobile Home internet. Very excited.

A great deal of information and testing. I have been searching for a solution to improve the speed and signal. Thanks for sharing. A+++

Great video. Very thorough testing methodology, and very helpful visualization of your results. Thank you!!

OMG, thank you. I had not heard about this. I am calling them now!

Definitely better than nothing if using it for a building like a barn or other metal building. I’ve got a barn where my service is 0 in there… SOS mode always. But with something like this it would at least allow you to mount externally even through a wall on a ground floor to get better signal. Definitely would be best to be up higher and aimed at a tower. Which like you said would require better and longer cable. But as you showed, the Waveform will still rule them all. So would be up to the user to decide to buy a “upgrade” like the waveform. Great video.

Every connector, like ur 90 degree, impose a db signal loss, from 1 to 3 db. So do not add if u can avoid.

Looking at this after i so called upgraded to this router. Lol. Better coverage house area wise but can only get 2to3 bars anywhere. Old gateway a solid 4. Chatted with tmobile and theyre sending me an antenna for free. Looking forward to the improvement. New Sub.

Hi, just dropped in here to say that today 11/16/23, we ordered T Mobile fixed wireless internet service to hopefully replace our poor 10 Mbps DSL wire line service. The rep said we are getting the new Sercomm G4SE modem. It has the Qualcomm modem chip set instead of the Mediatek modem chip set in the Arcadyan G4AR. Don't know if that will make a difference. We are just less than a mile from two different N41 T Mobile towers in almost opposite directions. Will be interesting to see where our best signal comes from and if we need to add the Waveform 4x4 mimo antenna. I don't like putting all our eggs in one basket, (Cell Service and Wireless Internet) with the same carrier, but our only other option was Spectrum, and I would rather not go there.

I just got this for testing as well Nate and I agree the external didn't really help. I could see this possibly helping if someone had a cathedral ceiling with those windows up very high and them having the gateway down on a table with the cable going essentially straight up the wall and mounting the antenna there in the window but that's the only niche I can imagine it being helpful in. I did read into the gateway some and discovered the gateway has multiple configurations for its internal antennas. It said if it gets a very positive lock the gateway can switch to an internal directional antenna that faces the back of the gateway. When this happens, the home internet app will change from saying "Omnidirectional" to "Directional" and they claim the signal metrics will improve when this happens, but I haven't been able to replicate it yet as I have pretty poor signal at my home. Could you maybe sit the gateway up on the waveform 4x4 with the back facing the same direction as the waveform and see if it will switch? I'm just brain storming and trying to think of an ideal scenario to make it happen and we know your waveform is lined up well.

T-Mobile needs an outdoor rated antenna with an integrated modem on POE. You avoid all the RF loss by using long coaxial cables. Of course, its not quite as customer friendly. Most non-tech saavy people expect a modem/router combo from their ISP anymore it seems.

I live in a rural area. My Gateway sits in the window with the most direct view of the tower, which is not far but is obstructed by many trees. By adding a half-cylinder aluminum foil reflector my signal went from poor to good, and stays there. It gives me around 90 Mbps consistently which is adequate for my needs currently.

How easy is it to hack these gateways, can anyone pick up a phone take a picture and there in, someone needs to put this to the test because security is what everyone wants. not hackable equipment that is trash. And it's no Comcast modem, at least they have security features, T-Mobile has the money, credit to buy the best technology and they won't, there a problem with customer service and speed is the best but security would be a lot better for everyone's wallets. People need to discuss this with them on social media. Because you can tell them to get new modems or the best gateway but the new CEO sucks. You have a good channel. One of the best 💯

So you would recommend the waveform over the t mobile antenna thanks for your input !!!!!

Hey Nater! I ran into an issue with Roku. Roku will not recognize DNS channels 52 to 140. The nine 5 GHz channels supported by Roku devices and TVs are 36, 40, 44, 48, 149, 153, 157, 161, and 165. Some time ago You turned me on to HINT control. That app easily allowed me to change my 5G from Auto to channel 40 on my home internet router. Therefore I am giving you a donation.

I drive a truck and go all over. This is awesome. I was on hwy 93 in Nevada to Twin Falls, ID.. verizon no service. Turn it on and got service. It was a little spotty. But for the most part I had service

Im getting 380 down and 40 up with the older one. No need to change since there is still no way to host my own site or to be able to monitor my security cameras. Bummer. No Im not going to do the hack work arounds. I just want control like I do with my regular provider. Nice to see a new one coming out. Maybe later I'll buy the new one without being on a waiting list.

Thanks. Just today I bought the gateway antenna from Amazon. I was ready to cancel my order to see if the T-Mobile external antenna was an improvement, but it appears not. Unfortunately. (or fortunately) I live on the edge of a national forest, which is great for nature, but not so hot for cell signals. I get two bars in about 5 Mb per second download. I’m hoping the gateway will get me to 20.

We have Metro by T-Mobile service . If we decided to get 5g home internet and place the antenna outside , we could get around 500mbps .

Did you try different combinations of cable connections like you did with the Waveform?

Being a HAM radio operator I can tell you that Height is more important for an antenna. The window 6 feet away from you equipment means nothing. That antenna should come with 50 to 75 feet of coax cable and a rooftop mount. Or an attick mount for those in a HOA.

Nice video. I have same gateway. Excellent Signal but poor connection

I'm using same T-Mobile gateway as in your Video for 2 of my RV parks they are about 7 acers each any ideas on the best way to extend the signal?

Oh, this dude is talking in my language I have to sub lol

Live in SW Nebraska. Basically TMobile does not exist here. Look at their coverage map. Have a jeep Grand Cherokee with the Uconnect radio/wifi system does not receive ant Wi-Fi! Even purchase their upgrade adapter that lugs into the port. No change. (Uconnect uses TMobile)

Love your show and have learned a lot! I have the original gateway from early 2022. I live in a motorhome. How would you suggest I position/mount the Waveform? Thanks again.

Thank for the information. T Mobile Swapped the Nokia gateway to the G4AR. Indoor I struggle to get more than 5 mbps in the house. But, outdoors 200 mbps. I wanted to see if Waveform vs Stock external is any difference

well with the antenna VS the trashcan,wouldnt you be pointing all 4 antennas in same direction instead on just 1? ....im still on trashcan nok

Got the wave form 4x4 and it made huge difference in speed with T-Mobile Hotspot Home Internet. Seeing speeds up to 130mbps. Problem is T-Mobile just drops out completely from time to time. Not sure what to do about this. I think its just the tower can't keep up in our area.

I've gotten really good uploads with the 2nd router and addgaurd blocker.

Also depends what server you are connecting to when doing the speed test.

How did you get your hands on one of these gateways? I called customer support and they told me I could only request one due to limited availability, my local store said they don’t even sell them at the stores.

Please explain what you are doing at the start. Took a while to figure out what you were testing and why ... a cell phone signal booster, not a wifi router... or is wifi the thing you plugged into? . Good review measurement wise.

They dont let us switch to the modem gateway with the ports so their antenna is worthless to those of us that addedour own ports to our gateway voiding the warranty. Would love to put mine back together and send back for the ported one. But that is not an option.

The Tater saving me 99 bucks!! Thanks much 👍

Would sure like to see you hook your waveform the the AT&T Internet air unit...instructions to do so on their web sight to see the performance difference....just ordered the Periodic 4x4 because my son is struggling to do gaming with Internet Air...I am SO hopeful that it will increase and stabilize both upload speeds and ping/latency...we have little other options in our area...

What's the difference in the G4AR and the G4SE?

Good review - I agree I don't see the point of that thing.

Do you know of a way to turn the Wi-Fi off if you’re using another Wi-Fi network in your house? For instance, I’m using a UniFi network and would not like the Wi-Fi broadcasting on this unit

Thank you. I'm trying to decide whether I get an overall non carrier specific booster or the waveform for my fast 5688w.

Thanks Nate! I have the Acadyn KVD21. I am more remote than usual, struggling to get B71. Sounds like the Small Waveform might be more beneficial than the Pepwave 40G based on speed tests? Im good either way and have suitable sites for mounting up top or in the side. Thoughts? I’ve spent a lot of time trying to improve internet access. Thank you so much!

Whats the difference in price in the WF external and the tmo external

I think for an apples to apples comparision, the device needs to be in the window when testing the internal antenna

Great Video. I just picked this up for my Park Model RV that stays stationary, under a 20x40 timber style pavilion, with asphalt shingles. I installed a WeBoost Multi-Room Antenna. This gave me a slight signal improvement on my cellphone. But the ends or connectors are a standard RG-6 style. Will this equipment work with this T-Mobile White Gateway? That’s only if they make an adapter to make the RG-6 connector work. If the Weeboost Multi-Room won’t work, is the Waveform the next best option?

Thanks!

05:10 Have you tested it outdoors since the antenna is rated for outdoors? For the window mount, don't most windows have a coating plus you would have a window screen attenuating the signal. It looks like this antenna is not going to be too much of an improvement if any in a relatively good signal area like you have. Overall though, another commenter said it best that a POE outdoor antenna is what's needed, but I wonder if T-Mobile would even allow that because of the uplink signal impact on the aggregate of all users registered on that sector. Your SINR results were interesting too. I've seen this many times in the past where you get a slightly better antenna and cable run which increases desired signals, but unfortunate it also increases levels of undesired noise even more sometimes. Really cool video and side by sides. Thanks for posting.

Just as an interesting note (SoCal location, ~ 1/4 mile from tower, stucco home). I was able to 'exchange' the Arcadyan KVD-21 to the Arcadyan g4SE typical. speed ~350-450 Mbps / 10Mbps typical. Open window (slider) gives improvement of ~50 Mbps down, SINR goes to 16-20, on B2, RSRP goes to -94 to -98dB on B2. n41 improves to -99-104 dBm on RSRP, SINR 18-21. On the G4SE, SINR is typically better, as is RSRP - B2 ~ -94-98dBm, SINR 13, n41 RSRP -99 to -104..., Speed: 415/46. Open slider: B2, RSRP -86dBm, SINR 20 (minute after opening slider, same location). n41 SINR 16, RSRP -92. Speed 535/79 As a 'real' interesting note: ~4am with slider closed, 670Mbps/41Mbps Upload appears limited by signal, download - by prioritization. Site is limited to ~750Mbps even with S23 phone, while other 'downtown' I can hit +2Gbps.

Great video thanks

How did you get the external antenna?

It's entirely possible that T-Mobile purposely introduced a new gateway that performs NOT as well as the previous and as a result will be saving TONS and TONS of data bandwidth over the corse of a year ..... but it performs well enough for most any customers needs (generally speaking) ..... and as for the external antenna ... same thing there.... its an improvement but not a LOT .... if may shine in an area with very crappy signal but that's all..... I will be testing one from a friend soon on my waveform here at my place...

It's a great device, but mixing the white box with the black screen is ugly, they should have kept the all black design or switched to all white.

They won't send me the G4AR. They keep sending me old gateways.

I get 585Mbps download speed and 60 upload speed, and I just use the internal antenna. I have like 5 tmobile towers near my house

@NaterTater spoke with TMobile today. They dont offer this new modem and antenna in my area. TMobile also has to put you on a diff plan with this modem. Is there an antenna for the black TMobile modem?

Hey, I noticed at 12:42 you showed a cable pass thru. What is it called & where can I get one? I like the clean & neat look

I am 1/2 mile from the nearest node serving my location. Due to Nater, I have switched to TMHI and am getting great speeds down and up. Im not sure this would make it any better. I get 4 out of 5 bars but a -85dbm signal, but it may

Thank you!

What about RVr's? The buzz word is MOBILE which means MOVING, can I use this service on the road?

I’ve heard that some low-e coatings on modern windows can interfere with cell signal, also aluminum screens can interfere. Do your windows have either?

Hi Nater, I was really interested in your channel. Quick question: How do I turn off wifi on the G4AR ? I can not find any on your video. Since I have my own router, which needs to setup. Thank you.

Nate, I just upgraded from the kvd21 to the G4-AR and it will be here next week. Hoping to get a little more speed and overall performance do you think that will happen?. My tower is only about a few hundred yards from my home. I currently get 4 bars if that matters hoping to get a little better signal with the tower being this close.

spent 4 hours trying to get one, couldnt get at the same address even with new line, and they said if i cancel i have to wait 90 days before i can open a new account.. lame

So, you can buy the T-Mobile modem with external ports, and put a different/better antenna two stories up on a roof?

What I don’t understand is why they won’t let they’re older customers who don’t get good reception buy the white router modem. I tried, but they wouldn’t let me.

Hi Nate, Great Video! I've had COX Internet for years . . . ($89.99 a month - 1.25 TB cap) and slow (but I need to update my 10 year old Modem and Router . . . Prefer to buy then rent theirs.) I'm a HEAVY USER and average 500 GB a month! I'm within my 15 days of trying out T-Mobile Home Internet with the G4AR. I'm worried that with that heavy data usage TM will slow me down to a crawl after I hit 50GB. Should I be concerned and plan of sticking with my expensive COX fiber service? I hate buffering!! I can't find any answers on the web on this?? Thank you for your knowledge on this.

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Curious if it’s pointing into the house suctioned on a window or it matters at all

Good option, I can't wait to leave Xfinity.

Hey nate, When are you going to get your hands on the Tmo Sercomm G4SE Gateway that looks very similar to the Arcadyan G4AR?

How did you get the new Gateway? I called a few weeks ago and T-Mobile told me it was not available yet. Is that a review unit? I'm sticking with my Waveform setup. Do you think it is worth getting the T-Mobile Gateway instead of using my Chester Cheetah Gateway? I'm not seeing any advantage at this point in time.

I just don’t get it. I must be lucky or right next to tge tower. I have the TMHI “trashcan” and I REGULARLY get over 500 down and 20 up with the standard built in antenas. Day or night. When my network is loaded I still get over 300 down and 15 up. I’ve got screenshots to prove it. Guess I’m just lucky and I wouldn’t trade TMHI for anything else.

I have the Arcadyan and it’s been giving me problems last few days. I plan on going into the store to get a new modem. Should I demand the new white one or stick with the arkadyan? Any advice?

I've got a old uhf vhf antenna doing nothing but taking up space. Can it do the trick?

NATE TATER I have this one but my stand looks completely different than yours. Which yours is better than what mine has.

Can you tell us how to disable the WiFi on that new TMO-G4AR? Will this be the same as the old one you did before?

Do you have low-e glass in your window? If so, it could hurt your signal.

Well,just called Customer Care earlier.Said need the New Gateway with Ant connections because when trees leaf out signal drops...NOT Really though...LOL ! She said could NOT simply Swap Out....BUT could Get New Gateway,Line,SIM,Etc and when all set up,recieve Shipping Label for KVD21 to ship back.Then that line will be Canceled,leaving me just the new Line,Gateway! Should get it in couple days...

Hi Nate, I have an M6 Mi-Fi and an M6 pro Mi-Fi and I have a Verizon Sim in one and a T-Mobile Sim in the other. What antenna would you recommend I use, I swap back-and-forth between the two units sometimes.

So after all the extra stuff you have to buy is it still cheaper than cable.

Suction cups as a mount is a bit janky for 99 bucks.

One question is what type of coaxial do you use to connect the antenna please?

I've got a question, and I'm hoping to find help here. I've got the new T-Mobile gateway you reference in the video. Is it worth it to get the 2x2 Waveform antenna? I cannot afford to depend $400 on the 4x4 antenna at this time.

Sorry if I missed it but is the new white router better than the Arkadyn?

What’s up with T-Mobile 5g I’m getting 500 average mbps without antenna did they upgrade

? Will you be making a video on the Total wireless home Internet as well

hello i have tmobile and the waveform mimo 4x4 and it does boost me but my speeds tend to get worse through out the day around 4-12. Should i exchange my 5g router for this new one?

Is this one better than the Cradlepoint E320 T mobile offer me ?

I need to be 65 ‘ away looking to put it outside. When i run a speed test with my 5g iPhone 13 Pro max i am downloading at 700mbits and 20 up. Will the length of that cable attenuate the signal snd degrade it. My plan was to attach the 4 extender cables on the mimo antenna. Any thoughts?

Have you experimented with 5G signal boosters on the waveform antenna?

WOW! You got to be a technician to understand what you are saying.

Is the G4AR faster than the KVD21 in terms of speed?

Have tired everything to get this modem TMO-G4AR even going to the executive office and they gave me blah blah blah if we do a modem replacement our system will replace it with the same modem you have??? 1 mile from a tower I can get 300-400 in my drive way, down to 50's once in my house (urban city)

On the tmobile antenna is the bracket on the signal side or is the signal side the opposite of the bracket thanks

I recently got a tmobile 5g internet... black box... im getting 3 bars at best... at best location speeds vary from 30-50mbps on the low end to 300mbps on the high end. mostly it gets 10-20mbps down except for rare occasions it gets on a download optimized band and i get 1mbps for a short time. Pings are my issue id like to see improvement on. speed test pings are 21-55 which is solid but real world ping times in games and remote computing will mostly be in the 70s-90s which is reasonable but occasionally go up into the 190s. It rarely if ever breaks 200ms... but im looking for more consistency in the