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I assume that some people may not like that name because "iru" and "eru" cut across the morae by (usually) beginning halfway through a kana. But the actual grammatical rule also cuts across the morae, so ...
thank you so much yuko sensei! i was struggling with these during the past days, and finding your explanation made me so happy! you explained it so clearly! thanks a lot ^^
Thank you. I am studying this langauge for 2 years now and I have had always problems to know the difference without looking in the dictionary first. Very helpful:)
I don't speak English fluently, but even so your videos are great, the super detailed explanations and calm help me a lot when reviewing, I'm already following 👏😊
My books and videos never say look at the vowel before the RU. I could never tell what exactly they were looking at, therefore nothing made sense, ekkk. Thank you so much for being clear and starting from the basics. Excellent video. Thank you
Interesting: we in Hungarian also group our vowels in these 2 groups, they are called low (a,o,u) and high vowels (e,i). Lots of other simiralities, too. I love your lections, you do a great job🙏🏻❣️🙏🏻
The explanation is very clear as most of the videos in your lessons. I have been syudying Japanese for 5 years years now and many a time I refer back to your enlightening videos. Once question come to my mind tho'. Why is it so important to be able to distinguish between RU and U verbs I wonder? What is the underlying reason? Arigato gozaimasu!
Merさん, I think you are talking about 切る（きる）"cut." What I used in this lesson was 着る（きる）"put on (a thing covers your upper body or the entire body). These two verbs happen to share the same pronunciation in Plain Form. I'm sorry it's not clear when written in Hiragana only.
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I follow Geroge Trombleys categorization: Regular (U-verbs) and Iru/Eru-verbs (RU-verbs). Verbs that rhyme with Iru/Eru follows the "drop the last RU"-rule. Otherwise, you change the last U-sound to the I-sound as normal. I think this is better since it creates fiewer exceptions like the U/RU-classification do.
Marcus-san, it sounds like a very good explanation. I have a question. How does he categorize verbs like "Hairu" "Sebiru" "Nigiru" "Kaeru" or "Hoteru"? Although they end in Iru and Eru, they belong to U-verbs (Regular). We have quite a few of them. Does he have a tip as to how to spot those exceptions in U-verb group? Then, please share with us here. I would love to apply his method as I know it's going to help my students!
I found another trick to identify them from a youtuber Just remember "ru-verb" to "iru/eru- verb", this way you know that if a verb ends in anything other than iru/eru, it's an u-verb But if it ends in iru/eru, it's most probably not an u-verb, and there's more ru-verbs that end with iru/eru than u-verbs that also end with iru/eru, so once you're used to Japanese language (either by practice of speaking or hearing, like hearing verbs in anime or songs etc) then unless the word is completely new to you, you'll be about to just guess by instinct if it's a ru-verb or u-verb.
GODAN and ICHIDAN verbs GODAN verbs- change the u SYLLABLE to an I SYLLABLE and add masu ICHIDAN verbs- verbs that end with iru or eru SYLLABLES. cut the ru and add masu 10 exceptions though....
The first time I learned about verb, it's kinda difficult for me to remember this pattern. So I use "memorizing" way instead, by reading many, many, many, sentence in polite and casual, then I know what verb they are. 😂
Thanks for clarifying it easily. I have a doubt for the verb "to run " it is hashirimasu Plain form is hashiru This is a group 1 verb . Here before "ru" i comes in. How is that? Please clarify Thanks.
Just a quick question on the group of the verb kiru. Two meanings , to cut / to wear . Will the definition of a verb be a basis for its grouping of whether this is an u verb or and iru/eru verb? on a different video this verb was cited as an exception( Group 1 ) but that example of kiru was specific to cut.
Correct me if I am wrong... Here what I learn from your lesson is dividing "る“ and "う" verbs..that point you given for their identification was so easy to make it understand but when you did talk about exception, how I see that is the second identification for "う"verb. 1: when a,u,o comes after a consonant it is "う" verb . 2: when 2 vowels come together (it can be any vowels) it is "う"verbs.
I think it depends on the first vowel . If it's 1, 3 or 5 then it's u but if the first vowel is 2 or 4 it's a ru so it's not really an exception. 1 being あ 2 being い etc etc.
Thank you lot for this, but I'm still confused about the て form of verbs like する or しる. Because the former's て form is して、 and latter's is しって。That means that する is a *Ru* verb, and しる is an *U* verb but they don't follow the vowel rule.
If i understand correctly 走る / はしる is also an exception? Also i wanted to ask how is it the other way around - how do i get u/ru form for verbs that end with ります? I'm asking this because i came across the verb かぶります and i'm not sure if it should be かぶりる or かぶる, becaus if i understand correctly both かぶりる and かぶる (if these things are even words) should have the same ます form.
TauFrostさん、はい、そうです。Yes, you are correct. 走る is an exception too. If you see ります in the masu form, most likely it is a う verb because for るverbs the ending る gets dropped and hence, it doesn't get converted to り as in ります. たべ-る > たべ-ます ね-る > ね-ます おき-る > おき-ます The only exceptions are those る verbs that have りる at the end. Then, you will see ります in the masu forms. かり-る > かり-ます たり-る > たり-ます I hope this makes sense!
