Recent low prices for E5 Xeon’s v4 changes the conclusion, at least for workstations imo. Plus heat dissipation and motherboard instability of overclocked v3’s may well be an issue. FPS advantage of an unlocked v3 may be undetectable for gaming. I went with the e5-2680 v4, on a stable Asus x99 Prime a-II with 64GB of ecc registered memory, no regrets.
Just picked up a 2690v4 for 34USD and an i9-7920x for my X299 motherboard for 120USD. E5 prices are falling for sure. Got 2670v3, 2680v3, 2650v4 (all 12core, 24 thread) all for 40USD. Just out of interest, to compare iterations. Used market is good right now for the buyer. Quite the learning curve, being your own parts picker.
2678 v3 is a cheap monster. Thanks, quality content :) . This cpu saved me a lot of money. Helped me in earning for apartment. They are getting pretty expensive here in Warsaw. Thank you!
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@@Miyconst it may be a better option but still 70% more expensive for that cpu and motherboards are about the same so for me going from an E5 2670 x79 combo it still makes sense for light gaming. Just ordered a Machinist E5-MR9S and cheap server memory, the combo will be close to half the price of a modern i3 system and I can use my cooler. If you would review that motherboard it is a cheap and interesting one ;)
Yesterday I saw E5-2680 v4 on AliExpress wondering if I did wrong ordering E5-2678v3 2 weeks ago. I hope I will not be disappointed 😕 Anyway as always thank you for the perfect review👌
Probably one of the best reviews I have seen on youtube. Very comprehensive, thorough, well detailed and straight to the point. A very well done to you. Keep it up!!!!
I want to build a budget gaming pc should i get a e5 1660 v3 or the 2680v4 Usually play games like fortnite, csgo, left 4 dead, minecraft sometines apex but what would be a better choice to get for those games I might be pairing it with the RX 5700 XT or a rx 5802048sp
I know this vid is 3 years old but I just purchase a Intel Xeon E5-2695-v3(14core) for an older x99 Asus board for a really good price. I suspect that since the comparison of 2680 v4 and 2678 v3 were pretty much equal my purchase will be as close. Your vid helped me make my choice. Merry Christmas.
As always, great content. It is somehow recomforting that 2680v4 was able to outperform 2678v3 in some games. Turns out the architectural advantages do brought some good performance gains in this regard. This opens up a great window of oportunity for upgrade for those who are building 2620v3 setups and do want to upgrade in the future. A jump to a (expectedly cheaper) 2680v4 in the future seems a nice touch over just upgrading to a 2678v3. Anyway, it is obvious that for now it makes 0 sense, as it costs simply way too much! Thank you for your excellent work! \o
One thing about the handbrake comparison, while handbrake does certainly perform better on faster cores, having more cores allows you to run multiple instances of handbrake to fully load the CPU, which can result in finishing 2 videos faster than the faster low core CPU can do them sequentially. My dual 2678 system can run 3 instances of handbrake to get to around 90% CPU usage. Very efficient for transcoding.
That's true. I have experienced this when I used Threadripper 1950X as my primary build, but I have figured out that it's very seldom when I need to transcode multiple files at a time.
Very informative vid ..thank you very much that! ..i'm currently hesitating between the 2650v4 ($75.00) and the 2680v4 ($99.00) ..they both come in kits (MOBO+CPU+RAM(16GB for the 2650 and 32GB for the 2680) ..i'd like to pair it with a RX5700XT to use as a secondary rig which i'll use mainly for gaming! ..which one would you recommend!?
@@Miyconst Tyvm for the fast reply and sorry for my late one! ..one more thing, will a cooler with 4 heat pipes be enough for it?! ..and also i forgot to wish you a merry xmas, so MERRY XMAS! 😃
@@Miyconst Greetings! ..sorry to bother you again but the RX5700XT (Soyo) i wanted to buy went out of stock! ..i've come across a RX6600m that you reviewed (MLLSE) and a used MSI RX5700 MECH (non-XT)..they both cost pretty much the same ($158)! ..which one do you think will be the best alternative to the RX5700XT!?
Hello Friend Congratulations on the good content. I understand that the xeon v3 or v4 have been used with the x99-tf motherboard and the e5-2678v3 with the turbo unlocked. I have one x99-f8 and two xeons the 2620v3 and the 2678v3. I would like to ask you if the undelvolt should be the same on both processors or does it depend on the motherboard or processor? I have seen that in a graph it has put in the 2678v3 a -80 / -50mv. is this the best for that cpu? , works for the 2620v3? thanks and congratulations for the video
I tested it on F8 here and with -80mV in games both go well, but when a lot of 2620v3 is required, at least here there was a blue screen sometimes so i used -70mV in which i had no problems.
Each CPU has its individual ceiling for undervolting. My CPU works with -80mv, yours might not work. In general, E5-2620 V3 can handle -50mv undervolting and E5-2678 V3 can handle -70mv reduction. To find the best value, you have to experiment with the CPUs and see what they are capable of.
@@Miyconst Thanks for the reply. The drivers for the undervolt have two values, the first I understand is for the CPU voltage but the second ??, it is better that both values are the same when choosing the v3 driver, that is, it works better if I choose 70/70 mv for the 2678v3?
@@robervir8884 the second value is for the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC), usually, this value should not go higher (lower) than -50mv. Some CPUs can handle bigger voltage cut on IMC, but the recommended value is -50mv.
Hi! Why the 2680 v4 description (in your video and in Intel's webpage) details that its turbo boost frequency is 3.3GHz? What do you have to do to reach that frequency?
Aha! sorry for those super knowledgeable guys who can't prove their points, I rather lessen to sir Miyconst who is just humble but proving something! Thanks for the never fading energy proving sir, as always your the man!
The e5 2680 v4 is cheaper than the 2678 v3 now. Would you recommend it? Can the 2680v4 be used with cheap motherboards with low quality VRM's? Would you recommend buying cpu + motherboard + ram combos? When using mi899 which motherboards support sleep mode with turbo boost unlock? I saw in your x99 rs9 review that sleep mode is not supported. Will x99 boards on e5 v4 cpus sleep?
This exact video has everything you need to know about E5-2680 V4, and here you will find all important info about the motherboards: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-338EhbY8PZ4.html
I have just ordered a Huananzhi X99-F8 motherboard in combination with a 2678v3 and 32GB (4x8GB) of DDR4 RAM thanks to your past videos. What generally available CPU cooler would you recommend for this setup if I plan to use all core turbo with the CPU? Thanks in advance!
If you have a decent market, you can also get the deepcool gammaxx 400, it performs slightly better than the 212 for slightly less money where I live. Basically, look for a 4 or more heatpipe cooler with a 120mm fan, it will be more than sufficient for the 2678v3
@@nathangamble125 Snowman 4 or 6 pipe 2 fan without the RGB are good. I have one of them in my E5 1650 V2 build. CPU overclocked to 4.2 Ghz temp is 55 degrees max.
Dear sir, I have cross-information and I'm really not sure .... is it possible to use the turboHack with a Huananzhi X99F8 and an E5 2680V4 ???? Thanks for your attention. Greetings from Argentina.
As for September 2023, 2680 v4 set (MB+CPU+RAM) costs €90/100 (16/32 Gb RAM), while 2678 v3 set costs €125/140, so choice is made. Now it's time to choose used graphics adapter, which would be always loaded at 60%+ at 1080p high settings. 1070/1660/6500 would be too weak, I think, but I have no idea of the next step. P.S.: thanks for high-quality analitics, and greetings from Ukraine.
Hi! First of all I would like to congratulate you for the analysis you do and for the app that you have developed to hack the bios. I have a question: Could the hack be applied to the bios of the X99 motherboard, despite having a Xeon 2680 v4? I know that this processor does not support overclocking, but maybe (or maybe not) applying the hack to the bios, the motherboard is more stable and also the frequency of the RAM memories can be increased (currently I have DDR4 - 2400MHz). Thank you very much in advance. regards
I saw that the e5-2689 v4 has been on sale for pretty decent prices a lot of places. Have you ever considered benchmarking it? At a 165 watt max tdp, It might be the fastest cpu for the LGA 2011 v3 socket. It has a strangely low max temp, however. I wonder what that's all about
Whether it is worth it is only you who can decide. E5-2683 V3 is a rather cool CPU with low clock frequency, thus even cheap X99 motherboard should be just fine with it.
Got my 2678v3 build ready and turbo unlock! Really good update after 11 years with x3470 4,2ghz xeon, asus p55 deluxe mobo and 24g 1600ddr3. Only 175e x99huan+2678v3 and im ready to go another 10 yeas now :DDDD What is the ultimate cpu for huan x99-tf mobo? No matter what is price.
hi, i currently have a e5 2650 v3 on huananzhi x99 tf, does it make more sense to keep the cpu or upgrade it to e5 2678 v3 or maybe v4 series, i primarily using pc as a workstation and designing.
Only you can answer your question. If E5-2650 V3 does not keep up with your work and you are losing time/money - you have to upgrade, otherwise there is no point.
I bought kllisre d8 with 32gb ddr 4 ram and 2620v3 watching your videos and comparisons like "What is the best Xeon E5 V3 for your money? | E5-2620 | E5-2640 | E5-2650 | E5-2678 | E5-1650" couple months ago. Do you think i would have a good improvement changing it to 2678v3 that worth the price?
@@Miyconst @Miyconst não entendo por que não vale a pena gastar o dinheiro em e5-2678 v3 na sua resposta ao @leonardo Rodrigues ele deve pegar Ryzen? Qual Ryzen? Explique por favor.
@@antoniosabino3957 Na verdade ele comentou que não valia a pena fazer o upgrade do 2620v3, que eu já tenho, para o e5-2678v3, pois eu não teria ganho de performance significativo com as placas de video que tenho ou que eu to pretendendo comprar.
Quick question is there a big of a gap between e5 2697 v3 to 2680 v4 if both are base (not TU). Both have almost the same price here and cant decide yet.
@@Miyconst I guess the 2697 v3 is still better when TBU (performance wise)? Thanks again, ill do a bit more research as well as watch more of your videos.
I just found out that theyre very similar in terms of performance and the only considerable difference would be the TDP and future proofing of e5 2680 v4. Might as well get the v4 lol, sorry for taking your time and I appreciate you for making these videos. Theyre very helpful for budget stricted people as well as those who like to experiment and test with builds. Keep it up!!
It'd be nice to see some multi workload benchmarks. These server CPUs are designed for simultaneous services running in tadem, not to mention dual CPU configurations and quad channel memory. Run a bunch of vm together in a cluster and see how the story changes. Nonetheless, gaming is a popular scenario to benchmark, along with rendering some media, it's a classic.
hello mycon, would you be able to let me know if for poker calculation software, like piosolver and hand resources calculator, which one would perform better?
For me it's a blind guess, but I would say that the performance will be the same, if you unlock Turbo Boost of E5-2678 V3, but V4 will consume less power.
@@Miyconst How many years do you believe a huananzhi-f8 motherboard would support working with a 2678 in turbo boost? Do you think it would change your life without or with a turbo?
I don't have any beliefs into the Huananzhi boards. If you want something that's going to work for years and years - get yourself and old Dell or HP workstation.
Great video! Thank you! Have you ever tested the 2697 v3? It's cheaper than both now and has the same cores as the 2680 v4 with a slightly higher clock, but I'm not sure if you can unlock the turbo boost.
I have not tested it personally, but I surely know that it's possible to unlock Turbo Boost with it. Overall E5-2697 V3 is the best CPU for the platform.
В принципе, ничего удивительного - 2680 v4 порвал на куски любимый фанатиками AMD кукурузен 5600. И это всего лишь один процессор - ставим 2 2680 v4 и радуемся. А ещё в запасе у нас есть 2696 v4 с 22 ядрами, итого 44 ядра и 88 потоков 🙂
@@grigpilip1366 Мейнстрим - это устаревший хлам с TDP 200-300 ватт и имеющий производительность на уровне младших зеонов. Прошли уже давно те времена, когда производительность ядер что-то решала. Нет такой задачи, с которой не справился бы многопоточный зеон.
what is the best dual x99 cpu for gaming? I already have a dual x99 mb and i think i can do turbo boost unlock. Is a dual 2620v3 cpu good? what is the best combo
There is no good dual CPU board for gaming. If you need a gaming PC - do yourself a favor, sell the dual socket motherboard and buy something appropriate for gaming.
I have not yet tested any of the E5-46XX CPUs, most of them are either overpriced or have very low clock frequency and reduced memory controller speed, which makes these CPUs rather pointless.
I would guess that gaining performance by disabling Hyperthreading is situational. If you have enough cores, disabling HT makes enough difference to increase turbo boost potential, and because you still have 12,14,16 cores your game doesn't have any negative scaling due to lack of capacity, therefore higher overall performance. I would guess, though, that this is mostly only true on high core count, but lower clocked, processors that are not typically chosen for gaming anyways.
I know old post, but some games simply prefer having SMT or HT (in intel's case). Its not always about the core count, its about how the software is built to utilize different technologies such as SMT/HT. I could understand disabling HT when you know for a fact that you are not going to gain from it, mostly in specialized use case or very limited game selection such as esports. But if you are going to use your system for everything then there is no real advantage turning HT off
Turbo Boost works, but Turbo Boost Unlock does not. This is an exploit which forces V3 CPUs to run at its maximum turbo frequency in all cores, if TDP permits.
It might be better to ask me directly, but I would appreciate if you could specify your budget and needs. The term "better" has different meanings in different contexts. Building a system like mine make almost zero sense. Pairing an E5-2678 V3 with an RTX 2080 Ti and expensive DDR4-3200 memory from G.Skill makes very little sense.
Very good review, the only thing I would do different is clock all tested CPU's the same, and then re-test them, I'm sure you will see a huge difference.
if i get this combo Kllisre X99 motherboard set with Xeon E5 2678 V3 LGA2011-3 CPU 2pcs X 8GB =16GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory and pair it with gtx 970 4gb evga oc so what psu should i use for that ? and can you recommend any better cooler for the processor ? with rgb cooler of processor and along with gpu gtx 970 dual fan sc evga 4gb is 600w enough? thankyou so much
Kllisre is a shop name, not the manufacturer name. There are multiple different boards called "Kllisre X99", thus be careful when picking one. 600 Watt is enough for the build, if you pick at least 80+ bronze power supply. For CPU cooler, I always recommend to go with the simplest option and spend the saved money on SSD or better GPU.
Didn't you checked the qnct, qqlt and qqls cpus i mentioned in the other video? I believe will worth it qqls is like an i9 9900ks for about 1/3 the price.
2 years ago I really considered 2678 v3 and some very similar cpus from xeons... Almost bought one, but instead of them I went to ryzen b450.... for casual use, gaming and video editing I felt like it is going to be a better choice... and now I am truly know that it was the right choice... I have a nice upgrade path... That ryzen 5600x eats alive those xeons when it comes to performance! It is crazy... Those xeons are obsolate very fast... Even if somebody wants to go with intel... the best option from that company is the 10400f or 10700... Any other than that is completely irrelevant from intel.
@@Miyconst Its better to check the whole picture... My build was a little bit more expensive but not much for first hand... Actually I bought ryzen 5 1400 for $54... Then 1 year later I sold it...The ryzen 5 2600 prices dropped a lot, I bought one for $100 both chip came from aliexpress.... with a top tier sapphire rx 580 nitro for $90 from ebay it was a killer deal... but the most important thing is that I have a higher wholesale value too with ryzen than what would I get with xeons... because a lot of people don't know anything about those chips... but I sold my ryzen 1400 within 24 hours easily.... ryzen 2600 sells like hotcake... if you buy one for $110 from ali, you aren't going to loose money on it when you upgrade it a year or 2 year later....
Hello, I've been following you from turkey. I'll buy a computer to draw on 3ds max. which x99 xeon processor should I buy. my budget for the processor is 150 dollars
@@wernerheisenberk335 It's slower than E5 2678 V3 BUT you can get a 10400, 10600, 10700. Man buy a Ryzen 5 3500X or Ryzen 7 3700X on a cheap B550 board. Fantastic upgrade path...low power consumption and better overall value.
I already have a 2680 v4 and a 6800k, I didn't know which one to use, and I'm saving money to buy a 2687w v4, I think it's the best CPU for x99🤔@@Miyconst
5:41 CPU utilization 73% during video encoding? That's weird and I can't accept it as actual performance benchmark. I currently have R5600, 2673v3 and Dual 2680v4 and yes R5600 is consuming times less energy but it is slow. I can't get it how come it encodes faster than Xeons. This pushes me to do my own tests.
