🇺🇸 Cobra Attempt by F-18 Super Hornet " Comment what you think? " 

But that's not a cobra, that's just pull up on low speed

You can see by the exhaust that he was sliding there. And the nose appeared to hit 90° so that counts as a cobra as far as I'm concerned.

It hit 90 degrees, but he was flying upwards at this moment. Also that was very slow, cobra should be a fast maneuver, like in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4yXP6uETPs4.html

No, look at the exhaust. Every Cobra has some upward movement but it's mostly a tail slide, which this Hornet accomplished. Also, something people don't often realize is that American pilots perform maneuvers like this as slowly as possible. The longer you maintain the maneuver, the more difficult it is to control the aircraft. The fact that the Raptor can stay in this particular maneuver for nearly five seconds at a time and then carry on like it was nothing is impressive, where as the Russian pilots tend to complete the maneuver as fast as possible to avoid losing control.

For all who comment and says that that's a cobra, just watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b-VNSJMiNt0.html That's a real cobra, baby! And originally it is called the "Pugachev's Cobra", by the name of the pilot who was the first to perform it.

@Jumba Chumba same lmao

@Jumba Chumba what was then you idiot !?!?

Actually helps in this situation

@Kirk Wolfe false

@@elitewavez4768 Elaborate, don't just say false

What u mean by agressivity

@@ILeprechaun what he means by aggressive is how fast he is turning

Yea ive never seen this stuff in person at any airshow. man this person really pushes that machien to its limit.

It has been videod from a wrong angle…i saw the very first very cobra during a side turn in an f 18!! I now love it more than ever. The deadliest,nimblest fighter ever 💝🇺🇸🇺🇸

With a rotating nozzle it is easier to perform a cobra..but only an f 18 can get out of its hung quickly becus of its impressive thrust to weight ratio 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Yes , his skill is exceptional. He even has been doing amazing maneuvers with 2 amraams , 2 Jsows , and 2 drop tanks on a super hornet marketing demo years ago . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r-_OWMDN64M.html

US Navy this was - Farnborough 2014.

This was done at Abbotsford 2016 as well

John Clark Abbotsford's show was very different than this.

If they had slicked off the externals, like they do with the SU-35, I think it could have been an undeniable Cobra.

I think it was to show the maneuverability of the F-18 while having payloads on the wings

well said brother, sucks to be the AT who has to fix all those strain gauges too

4hockeyskate lmao, you said AT and fix in the same sentence.

@@pollxxv I haven't even hit the fleet yet and I'm already hearing things about ATs...

@@carlosagaton4945 it's just a running joke. Most "O" level AT's generally just throw boxes at a problem first before actually troubleshooting correctly.

david salvati what do you mean?

Love from Canada.. we want the Superhornet not the F35!

@@crevis12 The F-35 would be better suited for a smaller air force such as Canada tbh. One of if not the best multirole fighter today that is almost unbeatable in A2A.

@@weasle2904 F35, too slow, too expensive to procure and operate, takes too long to build, and last I checked can’t communicate with our ground forces without a non stealthy external transponder pod.. maybe the Gripen is a better fit

@@crevis12 F-35 is perfectly fast for it's class, it can supercruise, according to pilots it's one of the best dogfighters rivaling the F-16 (which doesn't even matter since this plane would kill them in BVR combat before then), and $85 million is pretty cheap considering you need less airframes and that it's a stealth aircraft. It's cost per hour is pretty impressive for a stealth aircraft as well. If you want your country to have worse A2A air craft, have to buy more air frames and ultimately end up with outdated aircraft that's up to you lol. There's a reason why the F-35 is extremely successful and popular as it's entered mainstream production, and why it's outdone all of it's closest competitors in demand.

They also do this with heavier load outs

Cobra maneuver makes use of stall, the F-18 is not stalling.

Whatever but it's not important in modern warfare

@@mahirahmed2656 Correct! At least somebody gets it..

They also have thrust vectoring on the planes they do it with. Lol

It's called spin tac recovery and what does it puts the aircraft in level flight when the aircraft goes out of control. It does not limit the flight meuevability when the aircraft is in a dog fight.

The only purpose that makes it advantage in dogfight if 1v1 scenario is shaking off your pursuer off your tail

@Julian you don't need to fly a real plane to know how to fly an F/A-18...just play DCS

No, if you know this from DCS, then you don't' know anything.

Then his maintenance team curses him out when he lands.

"Old man yells at cloud" moment

This is actually the super Hornet but basically the same aircraft there’s just a size difference

I mean that’s what’s it’s designed for😂

Gwiffindor you and me both lol

@@LifeIsCars1 well if u see videos of the Su's theres an huge difference at speed and performance. I think the F18 can only do it on lower speeds

For A/B/C/D Hornet, no E/F Super Hornet can, since it has bigger wings and more powerful engine configuration. Derived from the F18 HARV research.

High Alpha.

It is called the pugachev cobra.

These modern jets employ anti stall technology and fly by wire, both essential for performance like this.

No need to imagine, it already happened. Look up the HARV program

@F A L K E N he was still climbing tho. There shouldn't be altitude gain while doing cobra.

@@vysakhvalsaraj882 There will always be an increase in altitude no matter how minute or significant when performing the "cobra". Even the Russians and Swedes demonstrate this. Yes, the intention in a cobra is to decelerate with minimal altitude compromise but gaining altitude will always be an inevitable byproduct of the physics involved performing that maneuver. During the manuever; the airframe itself not only turns into a giant speedbrake, but also a giant lifting surface like an aircraft's trailing edge flaps. It will only be after a certain angle does this effect cease and the airflow seperates. So somewhere early in performing the maneuver you will always gain some altitude. If you watch the exhaust trail behind this f/a-18 during the maneuver you can see theres sufficient forward momentum while at a 90+ degree angle to count this as a true cobra however, yes, perhaps not as dramatic as a Suhkoi SU-27 / 35 Flanker's cobra, nonetheless this does not discount this as a true cobra maneuver as it follows all definition.

you're just proving how ignorant and how little knowledge you have about the world lmao

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spooT idk if u get the joke but whatever u say 😂

@@particularace_1801 i do get it, but trying to act in that way won't get you out of it lmao

spooT why do u think I have no knowledge?

“Sh!#, he’s gonna get a lock on us!”

Said no real fighter jockey ever...

You gonna do whattttttt?

I feel the need for speed.

"Do some of that pilot sh&t"

Ricardo Traven is the name of the pilot .

@@geogeorge2039, isn't Travern Boing' s test pilot?.

@@victormanuelpolanco922 Yes

he is ex-canadian rcaf (15 years), now showing off super hornets for boeing

the guy tried to fool f18s flight computer-it asked itself-what are you doing

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That is just what you wanna see and hear because even you guys know russian weapons are extremely dangerous and you guys just dont wanna see that

@@Black-kn9gt when is the last time you went to war with a country that allows the world to see the lethality of your weapons?

@@Black-kn9gt true cobra manuever is really effective against enemy chasing your six Edit: source?(s): I've seen it in battlefield 3

@@anonymousstout4759 what if i tell you soviet/russian planes shot down about 45 planes with that maneuver

same here

Same

Same

Me too to see if f18 can actually Do a cobra. Still not convinced this is an actual cobra but a stalled brake.

same

Zachary Forbes Excellent question. The new GE-414G engines are considered too expensive. I hope that President Trump can find fuds to upgrade this jet.

56 billion dollars should help :)

This is from the Farnborough Airshow if I remember correctly & Boeing's chief test pilot for the Rhino, Ricardo Traven, flew the demo.

The aircraft is brilliant, slim in design, two monstrous engines, the aerodynamics are a whole lot better than the F-35, and it can throw down a pugachev maneuver without a high speed bleed and altitude. I hope that Boeing is coming up with a stealth version of this aircraft, because it's made to last in the harshest of environments.

looks like him on the flying yes.

Lance Winslow sad a mig 35 can do it fully loaded and still do it perfect

@@jeancarlosbasilio9511 it can do it because thrust vector !!! Without it maybe F/A-18 Super Hornet can out maneuver it.

@@jeancarlosbasilio9511 sad your just a fanboy NO SHIT

@@jeancarlosbasilio9511 Unlikely because during air shows were you see them they are often stripped to their minimum and with the smallest amount of fuel

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lol had to see if it could pull of the stall or not definately no SU-37 but it would do

@@kalebstover5144 me too, when i saw it for the first time, i thought it was cgi, lol.

thats top gun 2 XD

Aquila lol

The cobra maneuver is just plain deadly to try and "get someone off your tail." It causes loss of energy maneuverability as well as reduces pitch rates. The cobra is an aggressive maneuver intended to take a "pop shot." Ie, to fire a missile at a target that is not on the flight path of the aircraft performing the maneuver. Very similar to launching a missile with a high off boresight system. Edit: spelling

Amen I agree. I saw the trailer and was like when can American craft other than f22 do that. Half cobra yeah but not like a teminator which literally goes back in time lol.

Agreed fully and yes we are all here cuz we questioned that one scene like wait what lol

The cobra maneuver is for airshows,impractical in actual combat.

This manuver would get you shot down in a dog fight. He has bled all his energy and is a sitting duck.

That was not the cobra maneuver

@@oot007 so what was it then?

@@marlonsoro3488 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kcLavSl58yQ.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_maneuver I saw the Su-27 do the cobra in the early 1990's at an air show. The plane goes PAST the vertical (slightly inverted), stalls and then recovers before going horizontal. The Su-27 would slaughter the F18 in a dog fight and this is considering my country (Australia) was the only one dumb enough to buy the F18 when there were much better options around. The F18 here was simply doing maneuvers that many other 4th generation planes can do.

@@marlonsoro3488 it was a high AOA manuver but not a cobra. A cobra is a high AOA where you lose all forward air speed then pitch the nose down to regain energy. An F-18 cannot do that. If an F-18 loses all forward airspeed, it'll stall and take thousands of feet to recover.

Tell that to F22

@@saltymonke3682 the F-22 has vectoring thrust

@@therobert9521 so?

@@saltymonke3682 so that's why it can do it and the F-18 SH can't. Just like the OP says except the SU 37 does stall in a cobra manuver. I'm pretty sure of it.

I have the most exciting and low F-18 video clip held back, I will upload it one day 😉

Glad you enjoyed watching 👍

Canadian-born, RCAAF trained pilot. The F/A-18 is the Canadian fighter of choice. But Ricardo Traven also attended the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School and served as a U.S. Navy Test Pilot School instructor, before beginning his career with Boeing in 1997.

The Mig 29 and Su 27 could

@@F5Storm1 those have thrust vectoring. The F18 does not

@@bnjmnlewis1 they(Su-27&Mig-29)don't have thrust vectoring and they can do it easily. You are referring to the newest mig-35 and su-35 thrust vectoring aircrafts.

Ben Lewis mig-29 and su-27 don't have TVC

if you can go from infront of your target to behind your target in less than a second, I think that would be an acceptable lost of energy when your missiles can hit mach 3. but I am no expert on aerial warfare, I will leave that to the pilots to decide.

Its cool. Might be useful someday. Like taking ballet lessons and karate lessons together.

@@AnikaJarlsdottr Not a good move, the flat plate can be flipped by an aggressive duplicate maneuver by the enemy. Out of energy, the advantage goes to the bogie. He can accelerate and turn. The wallow of flat plate doesn't advantage the good guy. Speed is life.

@@billmecorney like I said, I am no expert, I dont have a degree in aerospace engineering or a qualification as a pilot

'I flew his wing when a couple of Canadian jocks bounced us. Chuck radioed to me, “Hold on,” and did a tight pull up, simultaneously hitting his speed brakes. The Canadians zipped past us and we ended up waxing their tails. I was impressed." --Emmett Hatch writing about Chuck Yeager.

And two Aim9s...

All the russian cobras were aircraft that were unarmed

@@F5Storm1 and ?

Here you go my American Friend :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lKgyywH7TN8.html Just slightly more then your AMRAAMs :)

Lol. All the sukhoi line up is laughing right now haha

No, you can't go 400 knots and pitch up and stop a plane lol.

@Taylor Kloehn no, not impossible if it's Super Hornet

@Taylor Kloehn when a jet like the SU 37 does a cobra, he's at a pretty low airspeed when he starts the manuver. I mean at 400 knots you could open your air brakes and go nose up and you will slow down pretty fast. But if you did that in a dog fight, your probably going to get blown to pieces

Also, if a pilot did "hit the brakes" he would bleed all his energy. By the time he got his speed up the other aircraft would of had enough time to about come back around and be on his 6 and shoot him down.

AWC I wish there were people like you who did their research instead of just saying "lol f18 cant do that", just because it isn't a Sukhoi.

Planning to get AC7 mate? Btw, I hope trigger gets the F/A-18E/F as one of his canon planes.

Justin Nielo That would be pretty neat, the Super Hornet needs more love.

So true! It's my favorite carrier plane beside the F-14 (and 35 cause of the helmet and stealth)

John Doe I can’t wait for the game I love the hornet I’m an aspiring naval aviator

LMAO! The tomcat is my favorite aircraft of all time, but the wings would fall off if it tried to cobra.

Well tell you what, I'm sorry to dressage look at this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1lVvfSQGqoc.html

Not at all a Cobra. Nose pitch has to attain 90+ from direction of travel, that's just a hard pull that any aircraft can do to dump speed, but I guarantee trying to pull that shit at low speed would drop that Tomcat out of the sky. This is before we even get into how touchy the TF-30 powerplant was, especially concerning intake air flow changes. A whole lot of NATOPS restrictions across all variants of the platform were born from that. Some lifted with the F110s. Tbf the Super here doesn't really do a cobra either, but he's initiating at a way slower speed than Grumman's test pilot (I think he was their Chief TP at the time).

Cobra maneuver requires trust vectoring... Hold my beer! Hahaha

Neither plane can perform a cobra

cobra R Pugachov's Cobra

Ahhh yes, and that maneuver (high AoA Pitchup/Deceleration) was performed by test pilots in the early F-14A Tomcat nearly a decade before the SU-27 existed. Before the F-14, this was done with the SAAB Draken. The reason the F-14 NATOPS generally limited the AoA on the F-14 is because the PW TF30-P412/414 engines were very sensitive to compressor stalls at significant AoA and Yaw angles. With the F- 14B/D GE F110 engines, the limitation was more or less removed.

cobra R I don't think anyone got the GI Joe reference 👌

+Cobra R Nice one mate ;-)

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yPrVwJmfI8w.html F-14's high AoA pitch and it's pedal turns (nose pointing) are very slow. Cobra air-break is useful when there's useful nose pointing e.g. faster pedal turn. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-We1T-FxY9Bs.html F-14's high AoA pitch moment example. In certain wing sweep mode, F-14 is similar to a Flanker. Both F-14 and Flankers has heavy empty weight and the number is very similar. F-14's 303F concept proposal was fix wing.

By cobra maneuvers I mean something else. A flight with a high angle of attack is not a real cobra maneuver, as the F 22, Eurofighter, Su 35 or Su 37 can do. Bye Hans.

@Jumba Chumba Since the introduction of the F 15, F 16 with fly by wire, larger wing angles have been possible.An angle of attack the flight attitude below 30 degrees is far from being a cobra maneuver. On the Starfighter, a shake of the control stick warned that it was about to slip into an unstable attitude. Bye Hans.

@Jumba Chumba Such skills are no longer so important in modern air combat. Bye Hans.

well in close gunfight it could be good

@@mashinenbratwurstgewehr-42 no

@@andreaskavak2364 well i have since this comment learned some things about cobra and it is true that it is nonsense move

If you got an F35 B/C at your six it‘s a good move because they usually don‘t carry a gun… With a russian fighter at your six you just can eject ´cause these guys really know how cobra works

@@bernhardwolf6172 the cobra leaves you eith no energy left. Its a bad manouvre

0:57 ?

@@amcds2867 NOT a cobra

@@jeffthacker569 youre right. i checked it again. He doesnt get enough lift to pull it off.

@@amcds2867 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsyMUAfh6fg.html this is cobra.. the tail toss forward..

@@magbus401 👍🏻

daquan vanhook What

There's thing like dcs

fmoa you said real dog fighting.....in a real combat the f22 would shoot them down before the f16 knows its there, first.....second, f16 and RAFALE is the best for close combat situation...rafale can beat, outrun and outmaneuver the eurofighter EASY...but it doesnt matter because rafale, eurofighter would get shot down by f15 and f22 eats f15 in REAL COMBAT.....not REDFLAG...haha....indian army ate the british airforce in redflag BUT thats ONLY in red flag.....Check mig 29 record in REAL COMBAT haha even one of our f14 shoot one down....Oh and the f35 scored 20 kills to 0 deaths sooooo i wouldnt be sure to pick the f16 and eurofighter unless you want to be dead meat hehe

That said the F16 and eurofighter do not compare in terms of weapons and sensor capability to the F22. The F22 is far superior as a comprehensive weapons platform and AIM9X missiles can be fired at extreme angles in the unlikely event of a non BVR engagement.

The F-18E/F Growler is a cutting edge aircraft but its mission has it loaded with ECM instead of guns and it only has room for 2 A2A missiles.

Su-27, Su-35 the best when it comes to cobra maneuver 😂😂👍

@@waynemcfarlane1233 fax

Impressive bit of flying all round yep

Good effort 👍

CilicianElite a cobra is a cobra whichever way you put it... The F-22 and F-35 are known to do it

I saw the Su-27 do the cobra in an air show 27 years ago in Singapore in the early 90's.

@@CyberSoldat No the F-22 and F-35 cannot do the full cobra. I saw the Su-27 do the cobra in an air show in Singapore in the early 90's and I've yet to see any American plane do it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_maneuver ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kcLavSl58yQ.html

That's not a cobra manuver. It's a high AOA manuver.

@@oot007 cobra is a cobra

It doesn't go over 90º angle of attack so, no. Having said that, a Cobra manoeuvre is fairly irrelevant in a dogfight.

there is no specific requirement that the plane has to go over 90º AOA. the classification describes the maneuver as being around 90º. and yes its not very useful in a modern dogfight.

Not quite, the SU27 can tail walk in the cobra position.

The Mig 29 has trouble going beyond 90 degrees also, I'd say the F18 and Mig 29 are matched

You can said it Half-cobra

Na not even close

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Just watch it... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b-VNSJMiNt0.html

Russian planes drop like an anchor when they do cobras , go watch them , they do a Cobra , stall and then drop for the ground begging for airspeed lmaoooo

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@M L yea they look cool in air shows , let's see some combat action , not just fly them to Syria to try and look cool lol lol lol

Lol this is way more controlled than the cobra.

@@michaelpegram3683 I bet you haven't seen the Su 30 Pugachev's cobra

The SU30 and it's cobra are useless, it's dead before it ever sees the two raptors beyond visual range.

the f18 is armed.

@@IHateIdiots21 so explain to me why russia was able to hunt some Raptors down.

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