To be honest if this is classed as the bottom of the barrel these days this is a huge jump in only five years from my OG ender 3. that belt at the top is mad sloppy though
Is it a huge jump though? It's the same mechanical system as an Ender 3. V-wheel bed flingers have nowhere else to go, unless you put linear rails/rods on everything.
@@theglowcloud2215 The Ender 3 was the standard for a reason, and this beats it at every category across the board, for zero price increase despite inflation. Two years ago this would have seemed like a miracle printer (and it's actually reviewing very well, this might be the first lukewarm review for it I've seen so far).
@@theglowcloud2215 Review ignored the main advantage, SG15 guide bearings on steel rods SUPPORTED by aluminum extrusions are an advancement. Kobra 2 Pro is hitting 20,000 accel, 300 infill at good print quality. It's an insanely fast bedslinger. V-wheels are only on the Z where it's not really an issue.
The Anycubic Kobra 2 is an EXCELLENT machine. It's printing PETG that my X1C and my K1 and my Kmax can't. I ordered it after Aurora Lung /Aurora Tech recommended it. Her review, which was balanced and impartial sold me on buying the Kobra 2. She provided a link so we could buy it at a discount. Everything I've printed over the last couple of months has been flawless from a machine that uses MARLIN to best three machines that run some flavor of Klipper.
wait a few days for things to go wrong, I have been using 3d printers for 10 years, industrial and consumer. This one worked great for about 3 months and now its issue after issue, I dont think the wiring is rated for the use it could get from even a hobbiest now. I have two other ANycubic printers(resin) and they have been working great, but they only have one motor. I wish I could return mine.
Honestly.... I never trust reviews that start "so blah blah sent me over their new printer". Even if the reviewer is 100% honest I can't trust that the machine wasn't cherry picked, especially since half the marketing these companies do is sending out free printers to social media types. Good to hear reviews from people who actually bought the machine through a normal process.
I fell in love with Anycubic when I built their original Delta printer with linear rails; I fell out of love when I bought an Anycubic Vyper on kickstarter. I am an experienced 3D printer user and after many hours of fussing and two parts shipments from Anycubic; I finally got it working reasonably well but never as well as any other printer I put that amount of time into. It was also the shortest ownership of any printer I bought. Your overview of this next generation machine has not won me over - they get 90% of it right but that other 10%.....
Elegoo Neptune 4 was just short of a home run (lack of wi-fi was an odd choice) This is just... Ok. Nothing too crazy. A little loud, a little cheap feeling. Ender 3 V3 better be good. Its superpower is that it is going to be cheap - and have a similar feature set to this Kobra 2, hopefully executed properly!
An important note: they have not released the complete source code thats currently being used in much of their "Kobra 2" line up (Marlin is GPL, and this requires them to provide the source code). Previous Kobra Go / Neo versions using Marlin 2.0 bugfix (a random commit) from 2019 and they have continued this for their Kobra 2 lineup. I tried migrating their code base to Marlin 2.1/2.2 and their code to handle CPU/Screen is a no go with Marlin 2.1/2.2 as it cannot compile on the older ARM Kali compiler and a lot of work is needed to backport all of Marlin 2.1/2.2 features. I assume they fixed Linear Advance (or took it from someone in the community they got it working), or backported part of it from the newer Marlin releases as the version they forked doesn't work. Why any of this is important is because this is one reason why Ender 3 took off. People could modify the firmware, sell specific parts with pre-compiled firmware, make their own with fixes or features. At this point Kobra 2 line up is good as-is and don't expect to make change unless you move to Klipper. I am also surprised they still advertise this as a printer that can print ABS. Their beds go to 110c, but the magnetic sheet will fuse with the PEI spring sheet and metal bed at 100c (Don't ask how I know...). Anyways thank you for the review! I'll wait till these hit the "unrepaired" section on eBay.
It is pretty interesting how different reviewers come to completely opposite conclusions. I really value your opinion. On another channel "AT" this printer was praised as the best of the $300 bed slinger high speed printers. If you would have to choose between. The Sovol SV07, the Elegoo Neptune 4 pro or the Anycubic Kobra 2 Pro, which one would be your choice? Thanks
I saw they made a patch to allow you to reduce fan speed. Someone on reddit posted it, but eventually it should come with the printer I'd think, Thanks 4 the review Nathan!
Finding a printer as someone new to the tech is a pain in the ass. $300 waiting to burn on friday/monday for is a hard choice between models in that price range.
My Kobra 2 died in the first 24 hours, (bad power supply) and I had to fight to return it for 2 weeks. I got my Neptune 4 about 3 days ago and it's been fantastic.
Elegoo makes great printers and has a very good support. I only have experience with their support and resin printers, but the support has been very responsive and helpful and resin printers worked like a charm. Seems their FDM printers are also very well received. Too bad they don't have anything to complete with Bambu Lab and Creality K1/Max.
Nathan was right about this printer when other reviewers were recommending it. I should have listened. Just a quick update after almost a year of buying this. It’s a lackluster machine..it works well but it’s clunky. The z offset is inconsistent between filaments. it constantly off gases. The resonances are the worst of any machine I’ve used which causes horrible ringing and noise. It can print fast but the resonance and occasional z issues force you to slow it down. To be fair it prints slightly worse than my Prusa, but even my old Ender 3 had better quality overall. Its dimensional accuracy is good with prints but again….the ringing. Plus the software is barebones and doesn’t allow for fine adjustments. It was an OK printer when it was released but it has just been utterly eclipsed by printers not even a few months later.
I had to do a Z offset adjustment that was rather large. It is good enough for the price I paid. The auto Z off set just didn’t work. That is the point of that button the on the back of the print bed. You need to have some 3D printing experience to get this printer tuned.
The creality v3 SE is basically a clone of this with some improvements, including a load cell for auto z offset tuning. Really curious to see how it works out
I think it sounds like that when it's going too fast. I have one and print around 120-150mms and it does not make that sound. Could be as you said, the build design itself and not actually going too fast for the machine. I am impressed with it so far though.
Between the probe on the back and the issue with it not extruding at the beginning of the print, i find myself using a skirt to help make sure i have good flow before it starts anything important. I always end up tweaking the z-offset on the skirt and brim to make sure i have good adhesion. If i dont mess with the offset, things go ugly quickly. Now to solve the retract so silks are less stringy and artifacty. lol. great video! I will say though, my neo 2 worked great out of the box. As a new person to the hobby, it was nice to not have major fails right out of the box.
You won't get rid of the noise . I have had one for over a month now. It makes a shocking noise when the bed moves really quick and you wonder if its got a problem but so far its been printing ok without a failed print and still haven’t had to relevel. Concerning the bed adhesion, I wait for the bed to cool and then the prints lift off without scrapping. I haven't had any issues with removing prints. It isn't a perfect machine by anymeans as you have seen. The Benchys I printed were fairly accurate with no stringing at all.
As a first printer it works. Sound is annoying, you can't get rid of it meaning speed is limited to around 120-130mm/s for both print and non-print movements. I successfully updated it to Klipper, so it's not THAT bad. But for sure, not a printer of your dreams
I appreciate the attention to details in this, but too much time spent on noise IMO. My main concern is if a printer prints well with good dimensional accuracy. Very few reviews touch on dimensional accuracy. What about printing something that's reaching the limits of the build volume? Here's the biggest thing...Can you easily recalibrate it if needed? Benchies are fine, but looks aren't everything. I want to be able to tell it that it's 20x20x20mm cube is really printing 19.4x20.2x19.0, for example and the esteps get adjusted for more accurate prints. It should be that easy. (I know, I got off topic there. Sorry.)
I can confirm that shit about first seconds of the print might not be extruding the filament correctly. That's why it's nice to use Prusa as it adds a small pre print action on the edge of the bed and then the printing itself goes better. I have Kobra 2 neo.
I'm sorry but i have come from machine shops that would make you cry I guess because you keep talking about the noise so much. I bought the Neo version and LOVE IT!
The fan is loud, but it's an even sound.... More discomfort from table movement and resonance of the y-axis tensioner. I replaced the standard feet with anti-vibration feet for the washing machine ;) The resonance of the y-axis tensioner is removed by rubber dampers. Стало потише.
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Tenho essa impressora, e sem queixas, aconselho a actualizar o firmware, para 3.0.6, mais velocidade de impressão e adição de novas funções... acho que que para avelocida de impressao standart que oferece, imprime bastante bem...
That firmware destroyed my printer. It was printing perfect then upgrade and prints were terrible and then one day it pushed the hot end into the bed repeatedly completely forcing the bed to flex over an inch downwards bending the bed and bent the Z rail, now I can't print anything it's completely useless. The auto levelling ends up grinding into the pei sheet. Automatic power shut off did not work either, it detected then re started my 89% completed print.. From 0% ignoring the 89% completed print on the bed still and just smashed it's way through it
Im pretty sure that Any cubic, Elegoo and Sovol are all the same company. Their printers are basically all the same, just running slightly different hardware / software to meet certain price points.. even the website's are identical, offering the same 'slin to win' promotions. It all feels very Tencent from a business style🤣
That is super funny. Shenzen is a small place, a lot of companies use the same firms for websites, marketting, product photography, etc. That would be funny if they were all the same company, but I doubt it!
Nathan, what's the best low cost printer that can print in ABS, in your opinion? I'll be using an enclosure that I already have, so no need to include that in the cost.
Honestly the AnyCubic line of machines has been a constant issue in my shop. They are terrible filament printers, which is a surprise because their resin printers are actually pretty damn good.
Ah yes, spreadcycle drivers witg only 16 microsteps. Thats the goofy sound. My v0 and v2.4 also did that until i increased microstepping to 64. This printer also should be able to do that. The fan is a 50x20mm blower. These are different to 5015 since they have air intakes on both sides. And yes, this thing moves loads of air, 6cfm or a bit over 10m3/h, more than any 5015 i know of. I think this is a typical anycubic machine, rather good hardware, but they are lacking in software. Ok, the Mainboard is also kinda awful since the cpu isnt supported by standard marlin and for klipper you have to re solder onw resistor. No marlin input shaper or linear advance in place to my knowledge. But the hardware is pretty good. 48mm y stepper witg 9mm belt, metal guides should be solid for higher speeds, above average part cooling and a volcano hotend. For the price not bad honestly, a ender 3s1 costs more locally (260 for the anycubic and 320 for the e3s1)
Lol every person who has experience with Anycubic never says “Yes this is a great machine”. It’s always a paragraph that starts with “wellll…” and ends with “5/10, might anycubic again but not really”
@@NathanBuildsRobots had a mega x myself as first printer. Was fine, but didn't inform myself thoroughly enough since a friend had a mega s that was running well. With the money i could have bought a ender 3s1 or something like that. I was tempted to buy a used one for 200 euros and put in a skr pico i have lying around as well as a rpi to replace the bad parts, the software
So you mess with the belt on top which was sloppy no doubt, but then to go on and say it needed adjustment on the wheels 😂😂😂, like you just messed with the z axis of course it’s not gonna be straight anymore. This was a very biased review of this machine. You basically set it up for failure…
Nathan, in the under $300 price range, what is the printer you recommend? The Elegoo Neptune 4? or something else. I was looking for a Core XY instead of Ender 3 style but couldn't fine one that was the feature set of the Neptune 3 at the price range ($200).
Check the Artillery Sidewinder X2. It's got basically everything anyone on the internet is going to tell you to "upgrade" already with the exception of a all-metal heatbreak, and a PEI build surface, both which can be remedied for cheap.
Or Anycubic could have designed it better to begin with. This is just like all other bed slingers in this price at that I’ve seen. Initial purchase price is understated next all the upgrades required to make it what it should have been out of the box.
If my only criterion were print quality, this looks like a decent, low cost printer. All my machines are inside enclosures for temp and ambient breeze stability, and fire protection, and my print farm is in an unoccupied basement, so the noise isn’t a big issue.
In the user manual they show you how to adjust the v groove and metal rollers to tighten everything up without doing that it is never going to run correctly and also ehy it is louder then typical
Yeah the most flexible part of a bedslinger is typically the z axis sticking out the top, tombstone style 🪦 It gets a lot better when they add the cravings to the z axis. Anyone serious about speed printing should address that.
The Kobra 2 I've been using is the worst printer I have ever used I would have sent it back but I didn't unpack it for about a month after receiving it in the mail. Tech support is the worst. I will never buy another anycubic product again.
I've had zero issues with mine, which is fantastic as I'm a n00b to 3D printing. The noise isn't even something I noticed, I thought thats just how 3D printer are. The only real issue I have is the bundled Prusa Slicer. Not a fan of installing some random software that could have been 'altered' from the original. I have installed because the Kobra 2 profiles are installed, but it's in a virtual machine.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I was waiting for an out of the box review like what you said about the solid rail vs POM wheels. No one said something about that
This is the only HONEST review of the printer I've seen and I've seen all of the early reviews. Not one early reviewer mentions the printers flaws or weaknesses.
@@baxrok2.Yeah some honest criticism on the product need to know a lot before buying. Justify me buying it for my farm. I want a cheap reliable printer.
would be best if the top belts were tightened when the Z is near the top to ensure the lead screws are as straight as possible. You should also consider getting a PM 2,5 and VOC monitor and an air purifier with all the printing you do and how close to the printers you are. Even printing plain PLA the particle count goes through the roof. Rate of cancers on 3d printing teachers in schools keeps going up and its not for no reason.
@@NathanBuildsRobots oh definitely. But study or no study, I have an air quality sensor about 2 meters from my printer, and after 1 hour of printing PM2.5 easily shoots up to 200 micrograms per cubic meter. The normal values of this are under 10. So now I always keep an air purifier right next to the printer, this keeps all the values at normal numbers in the air away from the printer
The y-axis belts were slapping around like a friggin bass guitar. Something most 3D printer manufacturers can't wrap their head around is how vibrations are created and amplified through electromechanical structures.
Yep that's the noise I get, I hot glued the touch screen to its mount and it eliminated it completely until after a few prints it came back again. Haven't figured out where yet
@5:23 you can print a tiny bracket to go on to the rail that's going across that has a little tension pulley (which you can also print) to put tension on that belt.
my only options are the kobra 2 or the ender lineup (probably the ender s1) since egeloo, sovol, and other known printers doesnt ship here. kobra 2 is about 290$ while ender s1 is about 390$. any thoughts for what i should pick?
I am a beginner also, I have the Kobra 2 Max as a first printer. Had some issues with it such as warping, clogged nozzles and setting the Z-offset. but I have worked through those issues and now I am completely content with the Kobra 2 Max. seems to me that a lot of bigger printers come with issues. dealing with those issues is part of the experience :)
I absolutely hate this machine. Been trying to get Anycubic to tgive me money back but they just keep sending replacement parts. I personally believe either I got a lemon or its just a POS. I am leaning toward POS. 5 months of ownership. I am running out of time with its 6 month REPLACEMENT and 1 year parts warranty.
That printer sounds *awful*. Looks like they tried too hard while not doing enough. Also the accelerations look (and sound) pretty low. I’d love seeing you test a Voron Switchwire (which should pretty much be one of the best bedslingers right now, along with the V-minion)
Sent mine back. Took three weeks to negotiate the return and then a month to finally see the money. Noisy, obnoxious, pitiful firmware, the list goes on and on.
Did you mean Anycubic sent you a email or message saying hi how are you? As you said Elegoo sent you a message. Did you mean Anycubic. And lastly i have herd Anycubic has great support from i3 mega days not sure if that changed :) side question if you change Nathan 'builds robots; to something Nathan 3D prints. Would you get your videos referred to more people due to the google al...
That is an interesting idea but the channel name is set in stone. 🗿🗿🗿 I mean Anycubic they sent me a welcome message over Amazon which is where I purchased this printer
So, all you did was complain about EVERYTHING. I own one, well the Kobra 2 Neo, very little difference, and the sounds do not bother me at all. It’s a 3D printer. They make noise. So what? If your ears are so delicate and get offended so easily, place the printer inside a box while it’s printing. Many people don’t need a $3,000,000 printer 🤨 I like mine very much. It works very nicely.
The micro SD card use sucks. It's on the older Kobra that I have and it would be much better to have a regular usb thumb drive (which they do offer on he upgraded Kobra 2 Pro).
I like the Kobra 2 on the whole, but the lack of Linux support really sucks. I’ve been using Cura with a kobra 1 profile which sorta works. It’s also LOUD - even when its printing slowwww with TPU. The direct drive is good though, as is the auto levelling. Would I buy it again? Yes, if they sorted the Linux support for their slicer. Otherwise, no.
What happen to Anycubic!! So they aren't the same quality as the old Anycubic i3 days ? Also what happen to the Cubic Vyper, was this the successor or is Kobra series something else? And did you ever touch the Anycubic Vyper and if so was it better then this horrible contraption Kobra 2 that sound horrible!
If I may, ask about my Kobra 2 in here. My K2 has compedout and doesn't want to turn on anymore. I had some good prints from it but now eh. It has only been less than 2 months and this happened. Please help. Thanks. P.S. It was from Amazon too. (Prime Day)
@@NathanBuildsRobots or maybe I will just return it like you did. This is/was my 3rd printer and just wanted to see how fast it was. Also to have a sidekick for little prints.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I did contact them and they finally responded. I was told that Anycubic would send me a new power supply. That being said, should I just go ahead and let them send me one or should I continue my return to Amazon? To keep or not to keep?
I was checking out this, the Neptune 4 Pro and Sovol SV07 because I thought my 1st printer will be their hopefully upcoming big brothers (Plus/Max) since these companies have histories of producing bigger versions of their latest bedslingers. But I thought if I were only to get 1 printer, I should make a decent investment, so that's why I'm seeing how the P1S and K1 Max are doing, then make my decision on Black Friday. I guess for your next review, will you check out the SV07?
I just bought this printer as a second printer. My first is the original Kobra which I've had a couple of weeks. I am still VERRRYYYY much a noob. I noticed Cura does not have a profile for the Kobra 2. Any tips on what to do? Can I use the regular Kobra profile? I am trying that now, but I noticed it's printing slower than the test files. If anyone can point me to what I should look at I'd be forever grateful!
Tried Elegoo neptune 4 max, it's bullshit, can't have good Z offset among all the surface only a quarter of it each time, so ... I think all not enclosed printers are bad, Anycubic to me is better than Elegoo !
I don't remember ever hearing you say where you live. But, if you live anywhere near the Baltimore-Philly area, I'll come by and help you clean and organize for free. Just for something to do.
I had one and the auto z offset was incredibly unreliable, and you can’t fine tune it very well. Sent it back. Debating a K1 or P1S since I want something enclosed to avoid issues with it spewing fumes into my office.
And btw, carbon filters don't stop VOCs, it stops the smell, optimally you should build up the fumes in the enclosure during the print, then vent it out a window once the print finishes, I use pc fans and 4" ducting for ABS. The styrene can cause the big C
so you bought this with plans to return it, but make a thumbnail suggesting you "had" to return it because of it's low quality. completely dishonest and actually an asshole move. why even buy it just to review it then send it back to amazon? don't you realize how much resources you've wasted?