From my personal experience, the secret BEST buy full frame Nikon camera is the d600/d610! Everyone was scared of the shutter leak issue so soooo many were being sold for cheap and people stayed away from them and therefore it’s one of those that’s just off the radar so it can be had for cheap. 610 didn’t have shutter issues, and early 600 with the issues got 610 shutters put in them for free from Nikon. it’s the predecessor to the d750, and it’s a damn good camera. I’ve always used it as backup to my d810, and most of the time it was the main cuss it was just lighter to carry around. As per his analogy, so many people buy a new d3xxx or d5xxx for same price as a slightly used d600/610!! Full frame modern camera with video for a few hundred bucks, it’s really the Best Buy Nikon full frame dslr atm for the price point!
D610 autofocus is absolute trash. And that smaller AF selection range in the viewfinder...a terrible camera. Wish I'd have bought a D700 or D800 back in 2016 for my first camera. Whoops.
I'm still using my 4 D3 nikons and love them. Full time pro, 3 have had new shutters and between the 4 of them I'm well over 1,000,000 shots. I do a lot of news and sports and these just work, love them
The Nikon D3 is always be a great canera. . Have 6 of them and the clicks are well above the 800.000 and still shots perfect. Use it for portraits and risky places. Seek the perfect picture that come one in a lifetime. The Nikon D4 is the last best camera that Nikon have built. Shoot always with metal prime lenses since i had a Nikon F5.
@@johandenhertog6878 are we talking about the D3 or D3s? Tempted to pick up a D3 with 9700 actuations for about 500USD and when looking at reviews on it they always prais the D3 but all of them are praising the D3s with apparently much better low light performance...
I recently bought a “nearly new” D810 with just over 2000 actuations. I had been using a D7000 for years. Still have it and DX lenses. D810 for urban and rural landscapes via focus stacking and Lightzone in post. Having a great time. Thank you for your excellent videos. A fan from England.
I have one and I agree with the D4. Wicked fine camera and it's below a grand used ! I won't sell mine even tho I have a Z6ii, a Z8 and a Z9. It's worth more as a spare than the cash. LOVE my D4.
i just got Nikon D700 for 300$ with 3 lakh shutter count and i sold my previous D700 with 6lakh shutter count for 210$... will get a used D4 soon.. i shoot product and fashion.. all you pixel peepers and 1000 point autofocus guys plz sell your D4s and d700s..
I agree on cameras, although with a car, if you spend $10,000 on a new car you won't have to spend anything else for three years. With a $10,000 German car, you're spending $5,000/year in maintenance to keep it to a high standard.
I recently bought a new Nikon D500, along with several second-hand lenses, for indoor sports like hockey and basketball. I'm getting phenomenal photos from it. You can see the sweat dripping off the players faces when using the Nikon 70-200 VR.
They are incredibly fast cameras too. You can't fill up the buffer. One of the best cameras out there for action. They do tend to blow highlights though.
Agree completely! I bought a new D500 and a new 70-200 FL ED VR for shooting swimming meets. Photos were breathtaking. Do you own the 24-70 2.8 VR? I bought a used 17-55 2.8. It's no comparison to the 70-200. I am thinking to get the 24-70 2.8 VR even I would miss 17-23 range.
@@jamesw4445 I also have the 17-55 2.8 but would prefer VR for sports/action photography. I don't have the 24-70 2.8 but it's something I will look into. (I don't have the steadiest hands in the world, so VR is always helpful. lol). When it comes to sports, The 24-70 range would work for me because I usually only go down to 17mm if I'm shooting a group photo at close range. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Shishkiboom In the same boat. I plan to buy a new 24-70 VR in 3-4 months. I bought a used genuine MB-D17 battery pack from ebay and it helped a lot: better balance and double the batteries. On top of that, very cooling looking.
Aww dang, I just subscribed last night (I work nights) and I bought a D700 within 2 hours of watching you, I hope I don't start buying at this rate everyday, you going to cost me a lot 😅
How do you like your d700? What did you upgrade from? I'm looking to buy d750 but the price of a d700 (both used) sounds way better. I'm moving from d 7100.
@@julitazebrowski2449 I love it, it's heavy,chunky,but that's part of why I love it. It's images just look like a vintage old camera but with just the right amount of new technology. I do wish it had WiFi capability though,it would be a lot easier to transfer images if I'm not printing them large. It's not as easy as today's smartphones to make a good image without all the computer algorithms,but when you make the right exposure the images are so artistic. No computations from a phone can take those creamy photos. I got a older vintage Nikon lens that makes it even heavier and better. I have a newer D7200 24mp that I like and it's more advanced,but the D700 gives me more dramatic images I feel.
@@MrFordguy73 thanks for your reply! I did buy the d700, I got it a few days ago. Still haven't had much time to give it a good try, but every time I try I like it more and more. I think ill hod on to it until everyone goes mirrorless and d850 will go down significantly. I'm also thinking of d4 as an option. We'll see! 🙂
D7100, D700, D810 ... all per your recommendation at one point or another. The output from each is slightly different, but all are fantastic. For what they are worth on fleaBay these days ... they will all be staying with me, likely forever. Thanks for the great recommendations over the years.
I have two Nikon D4 bodies I use for sports and journalism. I have a D800E I use for portraits. I just sold my d500 and currently selling my D750 with full intentions of buying the D780. You, once again, have sold me on a low shutter county D4. I just love this FN camera, and I love consistency and dependability without having to change lenses with having multiple cameras - especially sports. Damn, I love this camera.
Your low end .. is my high end .. d7200 also some from Paleolithic time like d50 and 70s ..😂 still for share on social media or 4x6 , 5x7 they have enough quality plus also have built-in af motor and 1/500 flash synch .. so still make me happy with the result .. and my Hyundai all ready pass 205,000 miles without problems..
My from new D3s has been hammered I’m not delicate or precious with my gear i shoot sports news events street astro landscapes anything and everything I still love this beast. If the time comes to upgrade the nikon I really don’t know where to go my gut tells me the D5 or 6 just because I love the look and feel of the D series yet so much talk of the Z series. Fingers crossed the D3s lives longer than I do. Saying all this if I drop on a cheap D4 I’m in 😏
I love Nikon DSLRs. By the way, what's your opinion for D750? I'm really anxious whether Nikon will continue producing/ supporting new/existing DSLRs, since the naked aggressive marketing for the mirrorless.
I bought a D700 in 2020 for 260 euro (280 dollar), still need to go get it. It will be my first Nikon camera. If I'm happy with it, I might get the D4 when prices go down a bit.
Nice video, Ken. I think its much better for get D7100 for 300 USD and save money for great 17-55/2.8. In fact just for 850-900 USD now people can get really pro zoom lens with great D7100.
@@MrBassrazz I have and use most D3s, to be honest, but soon want to take second camera, because of not always is necessarly to use D3s, and D7100 can replace it in many situations, also want to take telephoto zoom, maybe 100-400, crop sensor is great for it, will make it even longer.
I just picked up a Nikon D4 with 205k shutter for $1,000 last week! I also got a D3 from a veteran photographer for a few days of assisting. And last a D700 back in November for $400 with a grip and under 2k shutter. I'm set for cameras and I saved a lot of money thanks to Kens recommendations!
I never understood why someone would buy a camera with that high a shutter count, unless of course it was absolutely essential to their type of work. Some car engines can last almost a million kms or more but that doesn't mean you should get one with 200,000kms on it. Even if something is really good it has been used/abused enough by this point
@@NalinKhurb depends on the price and cosmetics... 200k for these type of pro camera bodies is not that high. It's the last thing I would worry about... And A shutter unit can be replaced. I'd rather have a camera that's 9/10 cosmetically with 200k than a 7/10 with 50k
Self Grendizer Yeah I mean if you can find in good condition, then it's cool, but it's difficult. How often do you find 'that much' used camera in a good condition? If the person could keep it in a 9/10 condition, he'd love that thing too much to sell in the first place Me personally won't buy, I'd rather get a lower end model with lower shutter count.
The Nikon D4 - and its amateur oriented sibling, the Dƒ. I wondered whether the 16mp of the Dƒ was enough; my optometrist had said 12mp was enough. When I got the Epson Surecolor P800, with its 17x22 inch print capacity, I was amazed at the quality of those big prints: 16mp is more than enough if that's as big as you're going to print. Don't need all those megapixels, need those "big eyes".
jganun I have a DF as Well and was also amazed at the large prints at 16x20. I think most of us are not making huge prints, and if that’s the case, then I think 16 mp is plenty. Btw, the DF really feels more like a Nikon film SLR and I find myself taking photos and not concentrating on gear.
I agree with the comments on the D4 series. But for me it’s the D3 as well. I paid over $5,000 in 2008 and backed it with a D700 not long afterward. It was great for shooting weddings and other events and just as good for all other tasks. In 2017, the electronics went bad and Nikon would fix it for $680. Instead I found a used one at B&H for $1,300 which is nearby and it is nearly like new. I figure somebody thought buying a pro camera would give them pro images and found out it took more in the head to do so. I have owned a D300, D800, a D750 and now a Z7 in my life of retirement. But if I want to shoot portraits and some other tasks, i go back to the old cameras.
Funny but you said the Nikon D7200 was MUCH worse than the Nikon D7100 a few years ago Haha ! I tried the Nikon D7100 and 7200 and thought the 7200 absolutely blew away the 7100 ! But anyway usually I love the reviews you do but I've caught you a few times over the years going backwards on a prior review. Its all good, at least you correct the latter .. I just feel sorry for the people who bought a 7100 over the 7200 listening to the older review
that "crapbox" on average, lasts a lot longer than the showy car. and, if you run into a repair issue.... you're going to pay alright when you go with the showy car. also, not sure if you follow cars but some of the higher end "nice" brands do not old their value at all. like audi, volvo...
Certainly understand your reasoning for choosing the D4 over the D810. But let's say I already own a D500, which I love, and have no plans to get rid of... Since that covers my needs for wildlife and sports, would you then say that the D810 (or maybe even a D800/D800E) would be a better second camera than the D4 for portraiture, events, and landscapes? I wonder if a D4 would be too much "overlap" in what the camera specializes in. If I buy a second body (which I would want if I start doing events), I'd like to also make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck across the spectrum of camera strengths. Thanks!
I'm no expert but::: I own the d700---d3s-and d500. For my portraits and landscapes I use the first two. And for my wildlife shooting. The d500 with the 200-500 nikor lens is absolutely incredible. Love all three of my nikons. The d4 may be coming soon!!!!!. I will not buy any more after that. There is simply no need to. i'm just a hobby shooter with great nikons. I know what works and what don't with these nikons as far as taking pics with them.
Found a Nikon D800E on Craigslist, guy listed it as broken/for parts for $150. It seemed to be cosmetically impeccable so I was like what the hell, at most I'll sell it again for $150 if the fix is too difficult. I bought it and sure enough, it didn't work. However, I understood that these particular bodies suffered from the Dead Battery Syndrome, just a busted PCB for the battery compartment. So I bought a third party battery grip for about $50, slapped it on, and BOOM! Brand spanking, fully functional D800E with 1700 pictures on the shutter!!! Apparently it belonged to the guy's tenant who simply dipped and left his belongings to be sold by the owner to recoup some of the rent. I am pretty heavily invested in Olympus, I just love those little bastards and even though I don't use my Nikon nearly as much anymore, I don't have the heart to sell it simply because of the story behind it. I have the old school 300 F/4 D, 80-200 f/2.8 D, 50mm f/1.4 to accompany the D800E so I have a pretty solid kit for just having fun. Okay bye.
I´m on a budget. Im going to sell all my Fujilfilm equipment (XS10, 23mm 1.4, 12mm f2, 18-55 mm, 55-230 mm), and keep just two lenses (18 mm f2 and 35 mm 1.4). And im gonna stick with my old Nikon equipment. Im gonna buy a MINT condition Nikon D7100 for 280 dollars, a Tokina 11 - 20 m 2.8, Sigma 17 50 2.8 and a Sigma 30 mm 1.4. And use them till it dies. Thanks for the advices.
Thank you so much for the video. I’m planning to purchase my very first DSLR which is Nikon D750 along with 85mm 1.8 + 50mm 1.8 G lens. I’m wondering is it still worth to buy this camera considering 5 years old?. Purpose of buying a camera is for taking Portraits, Still, Landscape, Bird, Product photography (learning) and of course my kids. It would be really great if you throw some lights on my concern to make a wise decision.... other options I have considered is Nikon D780 with one of the lens and Z6ii with the kit lens... apart from D780 and Z6ii I have been suggesting to go with D850 with the kit lens. Since you own D800 so I can gain some more information and evaluate my decision. Thank you and looking forward to your recommendation.
I trade used camera equipment (mainly Nikon and Canon) and couldn’t agree more, I have a D4 for personal use and rarely want to pick anything else up. The D3s is phenomenal value for money, I’ve got those priced between £390 and £500 at the moment. D4’s, got 5 of them in varying conditions between £700 and £1300. But, the D3 and D700 have also taken a massive slope in value, I sold one yesterday for just £150, I’ve just had to drop all the prices as I’ve ended up sat on them for months on end and still their struggling to sell. Why? I’ve no idea, most likely other RU-vidrs brainwashing people that they must go mirrorless. I used to have a D810 when I shot full-time and they are brilliant, between £650 and £900. But, the problem with those is the D800, which are far cheaper by comparison and not really much less camera. The D600 is now pretty much cheaper than the D7100, both are sat around the £300 mark, I guess that’s thanks to Sony. £300-400 for a 24mp FX body is great value considering the capabilities of the sensor, I know the focusing systems ain’t the best and they had issues upon release but now as a used buy, exceptional value for money. With Nikon there’s so much to choose from for so little money that I don’t understand why people are jumping to Sony. You’re talking A7r or D800, A7sII or D4, etc. And because they don’t get replaced so often there’s a lot less money to loose. Plus, an amazing array of cheap glass 🙂 PS - Saw a D4 with 1,000,000 (yes 1 million!) clicks on it and it looked barely used, would love to see what’s left of an A7 after that sort of useage 😂
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If you can’t stand the humongous body and weight of D4 then go get a Df - that is assuming (a)you don’t care about video and (b) not particularly a fast action sports shooter - since all the eloquence Mr.Angry is waxing on D4 applies to the Df. It’s basically got the same sensor as D4 and slightly better performing in low light.
Which of these would you consider the better deal for landscapes? Right now my local camera shop has a D4 for $800 and a D500 for $900, both in equal condition.
Just bought a D4 after hanging it up for a couple years last using a D810, D500, and a DF. I paid 1k with 74k on the shutter. Near mine condition with everything included as it was new. D4 is the best camera! 👍🏻 Zero interest in mirrorless btw.
I do 20x30 landscape prints on metal and am not pleased with my mirrorless system. I was going to get the D810 until I saw your review and now am looking for a D4 in good shape. Thanks for the advice.
Been using mine for 4 years now (bought it second hand). Love it to bits. Shoot semi professionally with it and my D700. I shoot mainly for social media so no need to blow up. D750 dynamic range and IQ is fantastic. Highly recommend.
Size (and weight) matters. Look at many RU-vid photographers and they are downsizing because of size and weight. The D4 is a beast!...a beautiful beast...but a beast!
JUst purchased our D4s in excellent condition low shutter 60k, just a tad over £1K, very clean. We have a couple of D800s and the D850 for studio. Also a D3, mint for a song off eBay, in immaculate condition, love both cameras, The D4's are coming down in price, delighted that we found it.
Your the go to guy on RU-vid no doubt ! I bought my D4s per your advice. I want a DX camera with similar button arrangements for distance shooting with my fx lenses. What’s your recommendation ?
I think if you're just going to use it for photography (not video) the D3X is a steal. It's a pro build and the sensor produces beautiful images straight out of camera or otherwise. I got mine for $630 bucks and I love it.
I shoot real estate and and portraits. The D800/D810 are where it's at for me. Tons of dynamic range and plenty of pixels. I also have a D3s but use it rarely for sports/moving subjects. Not sure I'd use a D4 much more than I'm using my D3s. In fact, I am considering using the D3s as a trade in on a Nikkor 19mm f4 PC lens. I wish those damn things weren't so pricey.
Nikon D4 is a great camera and have two of them. But like the Nikon D3 more. There is something special about the Nikon D3 which also have the D700. Nikon D5 and D6 have so many faults and don’t have autofocus with the prime Nikon AF D lenses. For me the lensrs are more important than the best camera ever build.
Have the "low end" D7200 and love it but eventually would love to add the D500 (I like BIF) and D4 for FF....would really love the D850 but a bit beyond my budget at the moment.
I bought a used D810. A big improvement in image quality over my D7100. Only problem is that when I AF Fine Tuned my lenses they looked best right at the limit of minus 20. I was wondering about anyone's experience sending their D810 into Nikon for focus calibration?
I love your reviews. I just can't enjoy my D500 over my d4 for sports. I just bought another D4 and I'm about to sell off my D500. Images just look flat. The outputs of the D4, dependability, and battery-life....all WONDERFUL! I have less than $2k invested in 2 D4's. LOVE THEM! I use them for photojournalism and sports, and I use my D800E for portraiture. I have a Tamron 70-200 A001 laying around I don't use, so I am thinking about selling my d500 and this lens to pick up a low shutter count D750 to add to the arsenal. Thoughts? Good stuff, Ken!
Been using it since launch. Shutter replaced two years ago. Amazing camera, I just love it. I just wish it could shoot 1/8000 sec sometimes, but that's a minor downside. Fantastic raw files.
Hi, I have a D3X, similar to your obsession with the D4. I have a D3 which has just died and gone to heaven. So going to replace with either a D4s, D850 or possibly a more battle worn 150,000 clicks D5. What do you recommend? Would appreciate your advice, Less frantic than Jared. Cheers from UK
I'm looking to get into FX photography, and am planning on getting a Nikon D600. The D4 is too expensive, sadly. I know it has some issues, but since it's just a starter camera meant to be as cheap as possible, I'm not planning on keeping it for a super long anyway - as long as it lasts for a year or two I'd be satisfied. Maybe I'll consider a D4 by that point.
Five years ago swapped my D600 for a Fuji X-T1. Was blown away and would never go back, a few years later I upgraded to a X-T3 and its faster , better autofocus but the final results are barely better the the XT1 or my X-T2. Try one you may be amazed how top notch crop sensors compete very well to ‘so-called’ full frame cameras.
Just discovered your videos and I must say I’ve found them really helpful. I’ve been a Canon user and shoot mainly aviation. I’m considering the D850 as an upgrade and would like your thoughts on whether the D850 is a good choice for fast moving aircraft photography. I’ve got a budget of around £2000 for a used one and will probably get a 100-400mm lens as well. Really enjoy the honesty of your reviews.
This video is perfect timing for me! Considering an upgrade but didn't know what to look at. So a D500 would be a good do everything camera (not much portraiture)?
I bought a Nikon D500 after I saw you highly recommended it, I am very happy with that, I shoot large wildlife n not bif, I now want to buy another camera to go with my Nikon AFS 300mm f2.8d non VR lens, again your recommendation, should I go for the D4 or buy another D500?
Just bought a used D3s in pristine condition with only 60K clicks. To compliment my X-T2 ... The camera is insane with light ice rediscovered photography all over again.
i rented that camera for a wedding gig. it’s great in daylight but horrible in low lighting. I have the d750 and it’s amazing in low lighting and has a great dynamic range
I’ve had a D600 since it came out, and still use it for real estate and portraits. In my experience the sensor is excellent, but the files always need work in post, unlike the D700 or D850, which look great straight away.
I just tried something on my D3s I haven't tried before. I put my nikon 17-55 2.8 on it and WOW!!!. From 34mm up to 55 its perfect. No vignetting at all. Of course 34mm and below "Yes Vingnetting" But if you crop your shots as i do often its also fine there too. One just has to frame there shots properly to get what you want when cropping at 34mm and below.. Just good to know for me. Its a heavy combo tho. So for just walking around and snapping street or whatever i'll just use the nikon 35mm f2D or maybe 7100 with f2d.
Helloooo from the UK, I hope you see this question... of those mentioned in the video which camera would you recommend for wedding photography? Or would you choose something else altogether for similar price? Thanks big man.
Ken: well I took your advice and picked up a used D4 in almost new condition. I paid more then you were quoting but based on the condition it was worth it for me. What a nice camera! I will be using it along with my D810. Both will be using my Tamron glass.
Buu Ton Van I got the D4 at B&H in their used camera department on line. The camera was rated 9 out of 10 (like new) for $1799. I’ve been buying from them for years and trust them. They always seem to have cameras at reasonable prices. If no D4’s check back every few days.
Thank you for being the new Nikon guy, The other guy just sold all his Nikon gear, Here I go aging looking for A deal on aA 4D, I have the d800e and a 7000 I enjoy watching your Chanel,
I have a Nikon D800 and Nikon D750 I start think in upgrade my gear. Im a landscape, architecture and gastronomy photographer but I love shooting waves as well, in your opinion what is the best upgrade I can make at this moment? I love your channel, thank you about the content you create ;)
Been looking at the D4 so nice to see that reinforced a bit. As for the bit about the South Korean crapbox, lol...mine has 86k miles on it and all I've had to do is change the oil and get new tires. My two buddies that have BMWs...have spent thousands in maintenance. I may not look sexy, lol, but I'll keep my crap box.
I've got a D300 and have since it was new. I'd love a FX sensor, but most important for me is support for all the amazing old pro manual glass going for peanuts.
With the exception of the newer Nikon D7500 and the low end D3xxx/5xxx series cameras, every model Nikon from 2010 or later can support Ai/Ai-s lenses as well as the older AF-D (screw drive) lenses.
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