The d700, D3, D4 cameras are built so well! With good glass, they are killer!! I wish Nikon made current stuff like them with all button layouts included!!!
Righ ton! I pwn all these cameras and just brought a D200 CCD camera. Built like a tank like the others. I have a D850 but use these older Nikons more frequently. Not interested in the Z system. Great deals now on DSLR gear. The D4 I purchased had only a 914 shutter count and was pristine! It was a great deal.
I just bought a D4 days ago with only 9000 actions! 2 bateries, charger, manuals etc all in it's original box. I also have a D810. The thing is i'm really happy because just like you said, it gives an awesome file. I paid only a $1000, i mean this is a new camera from 2012 in 2023 but still kicking asses!
In my opinion the...D3s is still a great camera in 2021! If they don't think it's good enough for weddings, it's not the camera but the newly married couple who needs an upgrade. I've also purchased a D4 and it's a beautiful monster (too). Everything about the D3s and D4 is great. Interesting video, and totally agree, the upgrades are not worth the price, in most cases. It's much better to learn everything about the camera you've already got. And, it sure does fit like a glove, to me as well. Both the D3s and the D4.
I just traded my Z6 for the D4 tank wow. My D4 has 3,127 actuations and not a single scratch. Traded my z lenses and now have 150-600mm 5-6.3, 17-35mm f2.8-4 and a 70-200mm 2.8 on the way. I can’t be happier with this set up wow. Thank you for your information. Just subscribed. Thank you
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@@Stoney-Lawson no I don’t have the D4 anymore. I have Z6ii with S 70-200 2.8; 105 macro 2.8 S lens; 24-70 F4; Nikon 200-500 f5.6 having a blast with it. I do will be looking into the Z9 or D5 or D6 soon
Hi I bought my D4 in 2012 and I'm still in love with it :) I'm not a professional so I don't use it as much as one but it's remains in perfect condition and functioning. I totally agree with you. Thanks for this video and have a very good day.
Jesse Newell that is one hell of a jump. I owned a Nikon D80 back in 2008....since then I have owned a Nikon D700, D3s and now I have a D4. All cameras are amazing. D80 is a cropped sensor, all the others are full frame, so be prepared for more expensive glass.
I just got the D4s a few weeks ago and love the general rendition of the pictures. I also own a D850 and in terms of results the D4s are kind of more natural, better balanced.
I have to say having both the D4 and D4s the "minor" differences are major from how I've used it. The D4s has the AF mode of Group and the AF is overall noticeably better (a LOT better). Also the low light is noticeably better too. The paper to paper comparison of the two doesn't do the difference justice. That being said I still love my D4 and it is a top performer to this day.
Hi Eric. This is a very useful video for those looking at buying older Nikon flagship cameras like the D4, D4s, etc. I have a Nikon D810 and very pleased with its overall performance and IQ. I am wondering what would be your views when comparing the D810 with D4s/D4 purely on the basis of IQ?
I started my pro by getting a D3x then got a D4 and a week ago got a D5. Love all 3 cameras and look after them like my babies. Must admit the D4 is solid and does hold a special place in my collection.
I appreciated the overview and your logic. I've been a Canon shooter since the original digital rebel. Recently picked up a nikon D700 and I love shooting it. I will add the D4 to my wish list.
I have a D4 and I live it. I recently sold my D500 primarily because of I felt the D500 was more difficult to maintain steadiness. I don't miss the D500 and the D4 creates better photos.
Just came across this as I have gone back to shooting sports photography along with weddings with my D700 (I have used this for weddings for 9 years and it is fantastic.) However it is a little slow and does not have the buffer capacity to shoot action sports like football (soccer to you guys,) rugby, etc. Good to hear that it still gets such good comments in comparison to higher spec cameras. As most of my sport pics will be printed in newspapers I would be shooting at Jpeg medium even for heavy cropping. I shoot sports at these settings on the D700 and up to 5000 iso, I can happily crop into half the frame with very little noise. High ISO performance is important to me as I can't afford to splash out £10,000 on a 400mm f2.8 and instead shoot with the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 zoom so the ability to go up to 12,800 means I can keep high shutter speeds even with low light and f5.6.
Just purchased D4s today, 2022, terrific camera and waited some time for one to come onto the market that was low shutter and mint condition. Have D3 and a couple D800/ D850. All good tools to have in the box.
This one of my fave videos cos I just love the old Nikon pro bodies. It's late August 2019 and I'm currently in love with the D3X . I've been using one for the last 6 months and it replaced my D700 for studio portraits and events (in good light). The D3X needs slightly more careful processing to control contrast but the output is awesome. I will eventually get a D4 but I imagine it will take another year of mirrorless releases and hype until used D4's hit my price point.
It's time already. I got mine 20 days ago after going through classifieds for a year! I got it for $1150, With 55000 clicks and in mint condition. I feel very lucky to finally get my hands on it. Get it before they're gone forever.
@@wolfgangaigner You did the right thing. It's so good I'm becoming obsessed about this camera! Interestingly I too had a D700, and a D3 before. But I sold them and bought a D3x before I eventually switched to D4 (I can't afford multiple cameras). If you are curious to know, the D3x was mostly disappointing, unless used under controlled lighting.
@@nostalium Luckily for me I mainly shoot studio portraits with Elinchrom strobes so the D3X suits me extremely well. I now have a D810 too and the D3X is NOT shamed by it in the studio. I briefly had a D4s (which was great) but I decided that was too much money tied up in one body.
Great! No mirrorless for me as well. Don't need the banding, heating and inflated prices. It's that hand that rocks the craddle, not the craddle itself. Kind regards.
I agree with all your conclusions. I own two D4 bodies. I have made 24" x 36" poster sized prints with this. The prints have zero pixels visible. Its great! I don't know what size of print you need to force the limitations of the sensor to become visible but those were the biggest prints I ever had made and that's as big as I would ever need. In my opinion, if a photographer needs to crop so much out of an image that pixels become evident, I may suggest getting closer to the subject or investing in come more powerful telephoto glass! Otherwise those 16MP are just fine for most applications!
I've also been shooting with a D700 for years now and the only possible REAL upgrade I see on the market is the D4/D4s. In my opinion, no other low resolution Nikon digital body is really worth investing some money if you already own a D700.
hi, im a "beginning" photographer (i started with a pocket camera at age 11 and now im 20 but i shoot nature for fun) and ive never really understood the point of the d5/4/3, etc when not being used for wildlife or sports. people buy those cameras for portraits, weddings, street, landscapes. why? why not buying a d700/750 that can pretty much do the same in those scenarios? just for the build quality? because i personally dont need 10fps for weddings, street, and landscapes. im not asking this to judge, but honestly to understand if im missing something. anyway, thank you for the video, was very informative.
I had the same thoughts until I started working for a company that shoots events and weddings. Autofocus is crucial there and you need a reliable camera with big battery.
Finally someone who talks about the picture and colors.. that's the way you should look at a picture... I own the d700 has little shutter lag and also like the colors it gives me ...love it
I was blown away by all the retaining details in my D4 pictures when doing retouching in Capture One 10. And yes, I would not change for a D5 nor an "S" model.
D4 aquired low shutter count for a low price ,a stunning camera in every respect 16mpx is just fine for me ,the weight and bulk is not an issue ,images are great and easy to handle on the PC and storage is not a problem , a D3 is next on my list
Use the Nikon D5 and go back with the Nikon D4. Have now two Nikon D4. 16MP is more than enough for me. The Nikon D6 is the worst camera i use. The best are the D3, D3s, D4 and the D4s.
You did explain what others didn’t, I have all Nikon products but not the D4 , now think of studio work and what te D4 can do, from 2016 to 2022 your video still perfect
Hi Eric, first off, thank you so much for making that video and for answering all my questions. You did a great job amigo, and I really enjoyed your vid. I gotta say, you've got that D4 camera for a pretty good/excellent deal! (money-wise) good on ya mate!! I'm right there with you when it comes to the Nikon D750. When it came out, I read a lot about it but when I tried it, I felt like something was missing. I didn't buy it and that was a good thing. I bought an used D600 from a friend of mine and I really like it, but in low light situations I don't find it very good. the AF isn't as fast as I wanna it to be. It's really true what you say about not paying too much attention to how cameras look on paper, it's all about how you feel about a camera, why you need that particular camera and/or what you're planning to do with it. I think it's like hiring someone, you really need to see the person in real life before offering her/him the job, because all candidates look like a perfect fit for the job on paper, but they're not in real life. Somehow, as you know, the D500 has been a controversial camera for many people and it's good to know that in low light situations, yes, the D500 could beat the D4 but like you said; by a hair. Also, I don't know if you agree on this but once you've tried a full frame camera, it's kind of hard to go back and start using a crop sensor camera, right? Hahahaha, Thanks for being honest about the D5! I know I have asked you before about the D810 successor, but I'm kind of falling in love with the D4/D4s. I have used nikon/canon flagship cameras a few years ago but I have never tried the Nikon D4, however, I still remember the feeling of holding a flagship camera in my hands. it's just something else. Anyway, Thanks again Eric for the vid and have a nice weekend with the family! Jesús.
It was my pleasure to make the video as always and I am glad it helped you! And yes, I definitely agree about the D750. As for using a full frame sensor and then going to cropped, that is a tough question because each have their own advantages. However, it would be tough on me to go with a cropped sensor as a main camera because all of my pro lenses were purchased with a 35mm sensor focal length in mind. Thanks for watching as always! -Eric
I moved from the D3 to the D4 about five months ago, and with limited time with the D4 I am super satisfied with the move. I didn't do it for the extra Mega Pixels. I made the move to get better ergonomics and low light use. I wanted a DSLR vs a sub par AF on the first gen Z mirrorless bodies. And the S lenses are freaking outrageous right now, so hard pass for Nikon Mirrorless on my budget. D500 Colors go wonky at 6400 ISO and get worst from there up. That to me was a vote for Full Frame since I shoot low light indoor events where color in the picture is a bid deal. If I need a good outdoor large field sports DSLR, the D500 would be first in line over the rest. D4s is still super expensive for the marginal bump in specs. I get it if you shoot sports, you want the best and D4s maybe better AF wise, but for the price to me the D4 was a bargain. D5 I have seen a lot of folks moving to it then moving right on to Mirrorless. I think the D5 improves on the D4/D4s. But sacrifices build quality that Pros demand. So for me in the future I may pass on the D5 after seeing it's the least favorite Pro DSLR in Nikons line up. D6 seems like a great DSLR, but the price for it is still very high. With the Z9 now out for over a year, maybe the price comes down here soon, but I don't see a lot of folks jumping into a D6. Great video, and I second your observations. I plan to keep my D4 till it dies. Just flat out a great camera, makes you want to just hold it and admire the way it fits in your hand. Crazy to think a camera would have such a great feel even at the weight that the D4 is. Still cannot believe I own one finally.
I have been using a d4 professionally for the last 4 years to shoot motocross, last week i purchased a d500 after all the hype and reviews. One week later im about to return the d500 as i have been very disappointed with it, image quality is JUST NOT even nearly as good as the d4 in any situation, yes the d500 is a step up from the d300 (i have one as well) but its a backward step if going from a d4 to a d500. I found in great light the d500 can produce some good images but as soon as the light is less than great the image quality falls off and the keeper rate is low, when i say less than great im talking dull flat light type winters day outdoors, the image quality then dives when shooting fast action sports and im only talking iso1000 1/1250 this is directly compared to what my d4 does in the same conditions when it would sill produce very good quality images. Its possible i have a duff body but ive used it a lot in the last 7 days shooting what i normally shoot with my d4 for a living and im very disappointed with the overall results even after trying just about every setting and adjustment there is on it. Today i will be returning the d500 and buying a second d4. Ill sum up by saying in pretty much any situation i would have to work in, i would be confident a d4 would get the job done for me and produce the images, if i was using the d500 i would be in trouble, but then the a few years ago d4 was a £5000 pro body and the d500 is currently a much cheaper prosumer body that will work great if your happy to shoot when it suits you in great conditions, and not when you just have to shoot no matter what...
I own(ed) a D810 and found it lacked any kind of AF speed using continuous shooting for aircraft and sports shots, so now own an immaculate low shutter D4 after seeing this video, the D4 for sports and action is still light years ahead of the D810
So I've been shooting with the D4 since slightly after it's release. I've been looking into the D5, D500, and D750 to use with the D4 as a second camera to replace my older bodies (D3, D7000, D2x, D2h, D1x, D100, D70ir, and SLR/n) and be able to do high ISO for concerts. My problem with the D4 is that I can't get the auto-focusing to work well at all. It's fine at f/8+, but at f/1.4, f/1.8, f/2.8 the focusing is so miss miss miss. I try the af-fine tuning, but the 24-70 at different focal lengths and distances, it sucks. The only lenses that I get to work well (and by well I mean amazing) are the 35mm f/1.8 DX, 14-24 f/2.8 and the 105mm f/2.8 VR. My 85mm f/1.4D, 70-200 f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8, sigma 24mm f/1.4 and others focus just terribly. All these lenses on my other cameras (besides the D7000 which seems to focus as badly as the D4) work just awesome. I sent it into get the AF adjusted and it didn't get any better. Anyone else?
I’m discovering the same of my old pair D3S, D300S & wanting a D810 but then D850 came out. I went for it instead & held off on D500 now. But I’m loving the D4S even compared to D850 in those low light clarity u spoke of. So amazing still & even if u want the soft texture of film it’s beautiful at 12,800 easy indoor w/ gently fill flash
20.9 MP on a crop sensor is equal to a 47MP on a full frame sensor - think of it as if you had a 47MP sensor cut into a cropped sensor. This is why the 16MP of you D4 are more 'spread out' on your sensor and as a result of it the sensor is 'less pixels populated' therefore it has a better capability of gathering light than it would on a 47 MP full frame sensor (or 20.9 MP on the crop sensor mounted on the D500). Re ISO and clean images, if you have nearly 3 times the pixel population on the sensor you need to multiply your noise times 3 when you look at your D500 files - hence the noise. The noise 'per se' is almost identical, but having 1/3 of the pixels you have 1/3 of the visible noise that you'd see on the D500 - if that makes sense. You're absolutely right about the D810 - it's an amazing camera even today! The IQ is stunning and these 36MP the 'sweet spot' in my opinion. So you would also recommend the D4s quality-wise if the D4 weren't to be available?
Just got a D4s with 75’000 clics for 650 chf (650 $) the files are great but the raw files need some work especially with the WB (always to warm) I love the ergonomics !
It seems a crop sensor has an advantage for wildlife. You have to carry a lot heavier glass to get the same reach. I have 2- D800s. I know the 810 is a little better but not enough better to upgrade. I just got a D500. I am not so sure at 6400 ISO that the D500 is really better . The D500 goes higher than the D800 goes but at 6400 the D800 seems cleaner to me but I haven't tested it extensively like you guys do
Now, 5 years later, the D4 is still my main gun - together with a Z6. I don´t see any reason for an upgrade to a D5 or D6, because i renewed the shutter and the rubbers last year for just € 600,- and hopefully it does her job for the next couple of years . Sometimes, when i´m filming concerts and i film with both bodies, even my D3 cames back of retirement and does the photography-part - up to ISO 3.200 without any problems and up to ISO 6.400 with some tweaks in Lightroom.
“S” varieties! I always go for the S as it’s often the internally refined specs u lay not see but appreciate way later. Especially w/ iPhone. It was more a mix of physical refinement to hardware as well to stair step into the next gen. I did that since 3s to XS. I learned after the D4S, the D5 didnt make that many leaps and the D6 today barely feels like a 5S if that. And this may be our last single digit D pro sports journalist body
I’m a big fan of my D3 in 2022 … if I’m looking to upgrade, I’m thinking Leica SL. Personally, if I’m leaving F mount … I’m really leaving for a whole new system for very specific advantages
Eric, Last night I listened to your video about why you bought the Nikon D4. And after the video I ventured onto Ebay to check out the D4's and to my surprise I found a new D4 for only $2500. So now I'm a proud owner of a D4. I've been saving my money to buy the D850 or the D4s, but this camera is even cheaper than a D850. So now I owe you big time, maybe I should buy you a new SUV BMW. Well at least we can say the Marks family loves their D4's. I'm also a "Marks". Cheers
Thanks. This was an awesome video and your facts on the D5 are accurate. I too feel the D5 is not worth the price. I do own a d810. Just got a mint D4 with less than 7000 shutter clicks.
It is everything about the camera put together but, when you talk about pixels, it is the pixel pitch. That is a major factor in what makes the pro bodies pro.
GREAT video of your thoughts, and thank you! Perfect info. I've been thinking recently about adding a D4(s) or D5 to my arsenal for specific uses, and this nails it for me! Cheers!
thank god! someone that tells his personal reasons between the cameras by experience vs bullshit specs, this is the reason why Ive held on to my D700 all these years, so a true upgrade to me would also be a d4 or d4s..
You got it! The D700 is still a great camera and so many still use it. Others just look at the year it came out and assume it's a crappy camera. Thanks for watching! -Eric
D4 is terrific.....have 2 of them with a D850. D4 saves lots of shots that would be junk with other cameras. D850 is pretty wicked tho. Just cannot make mistakes....it's a very tough camera to get spot on. Noise on a D4 is acceptable FOR PRINTING large prints all the way to 6400 as long as it's exposed correctly the first time....make prints to 11 x 14.
This is probably the best in depth camera review on youtube.I am renting a D500 and am now looking for a used D4.And its difficult to find one that hasn't had looks of clicks or is battered.Everything said in this video is factually correct, to me anyway.Loved the files from the D750,hated the cheap build quality.The mirror sounds like it is attached to Tom Thumbs rusty bed springs.The D500,I have trouble with the raw files which seem really finicky with processing.I have to try and balance the sharpening and noise reduction to match the admittedly excellent jpegs.V nice camera though and the Sigma 18-35 I rented with it is superb.But my pics go on the internet and wedding albums,90% of my shots are upright so I need a grip,plus most are taken in low light, usually 640 to 12800.Horses for courses.
Good video. Yes, sometimes the newer models are cheaped out to maximize profit and keep a certain price point. Thanks for sharing. Kind regards from a Canon shooter ;) Same stuff, same ideology as you've pointed out, really. I do the same as you camera wise.
Hello there Eric. Just chanced upon this video of yours 3 years after you published it, as I'm considering purchasing a D4/D4S after a long hiatus from photography. Not sure if I'll get a reply from you, but this is the situation I'm in... I used to own a D3S but sold it years ago when I decided to take a break. I still own a D700, but that's besides the point. Recently, I'm thinking of going out to shoot again and was quite inclined towards a D750 as it's within my budget and fits my criteria. I shoot mostly street photography, events, some pet photography (pretty much because I volunteer with a dog shelter) and just a touch of landscape photography. Based on my priorities, I'd say I need a camera which is fast (fps as well as AF), whereas megapixel count is less crucial (I don't print often, and when I do, I don't do mega prints). However, after doing some research and surfing of forums and online platforms where people sell their used gear (I'm based in Singapore by the way), I think a D4 or D4S still sits within my budget range. I read some of the comments here and realised you've seen moved on to a D850, but that's way too expensive for me. I've yet to meet any of the sellers, but I've seen a couple of D4S units going for just about $200 to $300 more than a D4. So my ultimate question is, which body would you suggest I get from the list below, based on the information I've provided? D750, D800, D810, D4, D4S
Hello Finding Middle Earth.. Great video. Always enjoyed @ your videos. If you dont mind me asking.. After looking at your video and others, I'm seriously considering now a used / pre-owned D4 for sports, action, low light photography. Where is a reputable, good place to buy a used D4 ? Thanks again for the help.
I Have a D4 and D800e, I love bothe and to me the combination for wildlife and nature is perfect. I sold my D810 due to focus issues. Yes the initial lot have focus issues. My D800e is a lot sharper and no problem camera, the D4 shoots anything, The one camera I regret selling is the Df. D4 sensor but just overall better IQ. So 16mp FX is great and my A1 prints of wildlife is just stunning..I slightly disagree on the D500 low light image quality, it does not have the same DR then the D4, But I am not a massive high ISO shooter, to me 6400 is the max. Seldom go beyond that..
Nice video, thanks a lot. What do you think about the Nikon D4S? I actually can get one here with just 20k clicks in great condition at roughly 2000 Euro.
I got a d4 with 8,400 shutter actuations, coming from a sony a7rii which has the latest firmware and still locks down the e-shutter curtain and bad battery. I moved to nikon again.
I have both, the D4 and D4s as well as the D3 and D3s and found the focusing switch from on the camera (3 settings) vs internal switching modes are terrible in very low light. I have lost more shots with the D4 and D4s, I have not had this problem with the D3 and D3s. I am experienced documentary photographer. My work around this problem is to shoot 3 frames and am likely to get one. Or, switch cameras, now taking 6 images to get one. I can't figure out which focusing mode to shoot just two people standing side by side to get them both in focus. I have used the 28mm 1.4, 24-70mm 2.8, 14-24mm 2.8. Help!
D4 vs d850 today? What would you suggest? I shoot sports and travel primarily. I understand the superiorities of 850 but how would it hold up for sports in terms of AF and buffer?
You are perfectly right this is marketing and that's all. We sell perfect new machines for a brand new with same specs it's insane! You have a new follower.
I use an 850 love it just ordered a D4- gonna whack my 300mm f4 and tc 1.4 on it hopefully the less pixels will negated by the longer reach and cleaner iso. wish my luck
Great update, I have a D4, was going for the D5, but I have concerns about the LOW ISO and shadow noise, also can not believe that the build quality is down on the D5, you also point out that tech specs are taken to far, Regards
I do mostly portraits and city photography...I am thinking the D850 might be better for me....am I wrong? I dont do sports at all. I dont think I need the buffer speed this provides. My only other option is a Z6. Someone recommended this D4 but Don't know.
Hey man. Loved this video. Totally answered many of my questions. I just subscribed. Totally wrong about your reviews. I thought, mistakingly, that you just read through specs on cameras you never used. Thanks again for high quality videos!
except Canon 1Dx is better , try pressing shutter on that , and more pixels . Somewhat lower DR , but only if you dont know what you are doing will it be a problem .
This video is quite informative. I've just picked up my interest in dslr camera with my D90 that covered in dust. I'm looking around the market and get quite confused. A lot of RU-vidr says that mirrorless is the future and present. But in the end I cannot justify for the whole system of mirrorless as the lens will be too expensive for now. Using DSLR also allows more options with third party or nikon AFd lens. This video makes me reconsider my next camera might be d4s. But I will keep your points in mind about its build qualityz. What you mentioned in the beginning about the dynamic range and noise performance of D500 might be because of the difference of crop and ff sensor. I'm not sure why you stop producing new contents here. Maybe because the pandemic. Hope you are doing well. :)
I'm a D750 user and we're cool I'm not offended with what you said about the D750 ...lol, but I wanted to pickup a used D4 because of its price point (besides it was my dream camera body ever since it was launch) but when I checked the price for a 64gb xqd and cf cards.... Oh my word 🙊🙈
Good morning. I really liked your video, informing you about the user experience of the Nikon d4s camera. Please allow me to ask you a question: Can the Nikon D4s use a CF Express Type B card, instead of an XQD card? Is there an updated firmware that allows the use of the CF Express Type B card on the Nikon D4s? Thanks.
4:40 Man, I havent heard a camera make that focus ready sound for at least half a decade. Probably 7 or 8 years. Wow, I now know again why almost nobody uses it ;D
A really stupid comment,the camera is about 10 cm away from the mic, what do you expect. The bleep is controlled, low or high or off. Whats the problem. ?
Very informative and engaging presentation. Thanks much for that. Just wondering if you are still using your D4 to this day. I am sure that system will continue to run effortlessly.
The D4 is miles ahead of the D500, why? Because D4 was designed for pros where as the D500 was designed for a consumer market. I had a D500, i liked the body but the image quality was messy, i think D7200 sensor is much better - D500 is better for sports than the 7200 but the 7200 is better for everything else and you get more pixels to play with. Always thought the D500 was a poor performer image quality wise, i also know nikon pros who got sent one for FREE and sent it back. I would buy a d500 if it hits a lower price.
I just bought a D4 again...$750...320,000 actuations..just sent it out to get a brand new shutter installed.. I also have a D3 ..70k actuations for $350...I also have a D500..I bought it new ..less than 12k actuations on it
The D4 is much better at focusing in low light than the D3s, but the noise performance is not that difference between the two. Thanks for watching! -Eric
A friend bought a D4 and complains of how heavy the camera is and was wondering how many shutter clicks would be too much to trade. I own a d7200 for wildlife and would love the full frame and 10fps.
Hi Taytoni, The D4 will last over 400k shutter clicks, but when you are buying one used, I would always try to stay under 100k clicks so that way you know it hasn't been beat to death at least from a sensor use perspective. Thanks for watching! -Eric
Buy it even now if it has low shutter count. Flagships are flagships no matter how old. Some of my colleagues still work with d3... if you don't need it for video that much go for it.
