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🚲 How To: Ebike Hub Motor Hall Sensor Testing, Diagnosis, and Fixes (Display Error 10, Error 30) 

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How to fix your ebike hub motor! Hall sensor issues (display error 10, error 30), in depth diagnostics and bldc understanding for finding hall sensor faults and replacing them.
Some resources and info that can help you (I'm not sponsored by anything or anyone, these links are just for information):
Massive shout-out to this dude for putting this info together: electricbike.com/forum/forum/...
Understanding brushless DC (BLDC) hub motor phases, hall effects and how they work: colourtvservicebbsr.blogspot....
If you want to bypass your hall sensor PCB:
endless-sphere.com/forums/vie...
If you need hall sensor replacements, or even want to replace the whole entire PCB assembly with halls (not sponsored, not affiliated in any way):
www.aliexpress.us/item/225183...
If you want the more convenient way to test your motor (not sponsored, not affiliated in any way):
www.ebay.com/itm/234626022394
Before attempting this the very first thing you want to check is for any issues with your wiring, connectors loose, places where there is rubbing, chafing or pinch points (especially where the wires go into your axle) - it could be something very simple, this video is for after you've already done some basic troubleshooting steps by checking your wiring before pulling anything off the bike. if everything looks fine and you're still having an issue these next steps will help you.
You can do these next tests with your bike still hooked up and nothing removed. If you do not have your bike assembled and you only have your motor to test I will show you a way to setup to do this test with only the hub motor in a section near the end of this video.
The first thing we want to check is if the hall sensors are getting power, if they're not getting power then they're going to have a tough time reporting back information that your controller needs and this would be a fault that causes your hub motor to stop working. To test this, turn on your bike so that power is applied to your controller, we want to test with our multimeter here so set it to measure DC voltage in the 20 range, we're looking for roughly 5 volts going through this circuit. Place your ground lead on the small black wire and your positive lead on the small red wire. If you can't get access to the wires, you can back-probe the connector with the multimeter leads, or you can stuff a metal wire (like a paperclip) in there to make contact, and then touch your leads to that. I've gone ahead and completely removed my wires from the connector for testing and if you want to do that it's pretty easy, just use a knife or small screwdriver to push the tab down to release the wires from the connector.
On the multimeter you should see 5V (or about) here. if you're not seeing anything either you forgot to turn your bike on, or you have an issue with your wiring or controller that is not outputting the 5V lines to the hall sensors. This could also be an issue with the wiring internally in the motor, so if you're not seeing any voltage and you've checked your wires go ahead and skip to the next step in the video where we open the motor.
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00:00 - Intro \ First Things To Check
01:45 - How Does A Hub Motor Work?
03:49 - Hall Sensor Testing (Bike Hooked Up)
06:43 - Opening The Motor
07:48 - Testing The Hall Sensor PCB (Continuity Testing)
11:48 - Testing With Only The Motor (Bench Testing)
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@jellolon8435
@jellolon8435 10 месяцев назад
Dude thank you so much for this. I resoldered the entire Cable tree to the motor and was about to give up on a 1.5kW motor. Found the faulty Sensor due to this Video, changed in 10 minutes. Back on the Road now thanks to this concise tutorial! :))
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 10 месяцев назад
That's awesome man, I'm glad it helped you out! 🍻
@danieljob7787
@danieljob7787 5 месяцев назад
This is an awesome video, you've done a great professional job on this.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
Thanks man, much appreciated 🍻
@gi169
@gi169 Год назад
Very concise troubleshooting tutorial HT\\LL. Thank you. Im sure this will help a lot of e-vehicle riders. Take care man...
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks Gil! Much appreciated, I hope you take care as well brother.
@simonrompre
@simonrompre Год назад
Well done, very clear explanations, thank you!
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks for watching! 🍻
@mborowski2010
@mborowski2010 Год назад
This video would have been pure gold for me 5 years ago. I learned everything to the point now I'm building my own controller and modified my bafang controllers to run with more power with out the speed limited. Great video though! This will help many noobs who want to DIY fix their ebikes.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much! I'm hoping it can help some people just getting into DIY ebikes as a lot of issues can come from the hall sensors. Thanks for watching, much appreciated!
@baje_246
@baje_246 Год назад
Are you in NYC?
@4nlimited3dition_4n3d
@4nlimited3dition_4n3d День назад
If you like tinkering and getting the absolute max performance and customization, I would definitely recommend check out VESC controllers. Especially the originals from Trampa.
@DCX1
@DCX1 Год назад
Would love to see the hub motor tester board video! Great work!
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks man, I just got it in the mail so I'll make a video on it 👍
@herminioamuniz
@herminioamuniz Год назад
Perfect. Thanks for taking the time
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@AbderrahmaneFafouri
@AbderrahmaneFafouri Год назад
Your videos are professional 👍 keep going
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much man, I have a lot more on the way. Thank you for the encouragement, much appreciated🍻
@Justme-lq3wv
@Justme-lq3wv 5 месяцев назад
subbed after the first video I watched on how to test hall sensors, I've been searching for a few days trying to get this information about how to test the wires, I've changed the wording and tried several variations and got no where, I'm basically not getting any Error codes or anything like that but when I rotate the wheel to get a up to 3mph so the wheel will then activate but it isn't registering any speed at all and I know 100% that all other components work perfectly as I have another wheel and when I put that one on it all works perfectly 👍
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
Thanks man, you should check the multimeter readings and see if they are correct, if they are then the motor should work. 👍
@billybob6574
@billybob6574 Месяц назад
Brilliant, thank you for this.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
Thank you 🍻
@Tefelucky
@Tefelucky 2 месяца назад
Thanks alot for you excellent explanation....and practical lecture.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 2 месяца назад
Thanks man 🍻
@E-bikeguy
@E-bikeguy Год назад
One of my subscribers was having the same problem with his 2000w kit, he has power but when he apply throttle he hear a click and nothing happens, I'm going to tell him to watch this video, very informative. 👊💯
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much man! I hope it can help some people out, sometimes it's hard to follow tutorials on forums so I figured I'd make a video. Thanks for the recommendation brother 🍻
@E-bikeguy
@E-bikeguy Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife anytime especially when it relevant to what we go through from time to time with these ebikes 🙂
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@E-bikeguy 100% man, you put out a lot of good videos on how to upgrade and fix things, people appreciate it for sure.
@E-bikeguy
@E-bikeguy Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife lol bet!! I just sent my subscriber the link, FYI I told my wife that a big youtuber comment on my video lol I was star struck 😅
@chaitanyaabbott4883
@chaitanyaabbott4883 Год назад
@@E-bikeguy hey, so did your guy withe 2000W motor manage to by pass...? im having the same issue.
@bradphillips6081
@bradphillips6081 9 месяцев назад
Hey thank you excellent communication skills that's talent I get to go take everything apart again again
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 9 месяцев назад
Thanks man, I hope you find the issue 👍
@kibou5832
@kibou5832 Год назад
Thank you so much for this Video!!!!!!
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks for watching man!
@salviaaable
@salviaaable Год назад
good information ! i guess i have to to this someday :D but my bikes are running still great like on the first day
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much man, out of years of hub motors, this was the first time I ever had an issue 👍🍻
@babumanikuttan2258
@babumanikuttan2258 10 месяцев назад
Your video is so good
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much 🍻
@En3rgyLee
@En3rgyLee Год назад
This is a great video. I needed this like several months ago for testing sake lol I had to figure out how to these things the hard way. I own that same motor tester and I came across that motor hall sensor color combination pdf (it is very helpful)! But this guide is in-depth and it should help a lot of beginners for troubleshooting. Good job 👍🏽
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much Lee! Hey, your comment on my cafe racer video got lost somehow, I think it's because you put a link it showed up in spam, I approved but now it's like lost in the ether so my apologies for not responding to it but I literally can't find it anymore! Thanks so much for watching, oh yeah I linked all the forum posts I found useful with even more info 🍻👍
@En3rgyLee
@En3rgyLee Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife no worries man. It’s all good. Darn those RU-vid bots, however, I was just sharing with another smaller RU-vid channel who is doing an electric cafe build and thought you would be interested. His channel is called Shea Nyquist. Nonetheless, keep up the good work. I wonder if you could whenever you could do a similar break down for pedal assist. My bike works good and all and it zooms but I the PAS on it is not triggering when I pedal but it’s not too much of a buzz kill as I ride it more like a motorcycle anyway. However it would be nice to pedal again. Any tips? Or how to test with a multimeter?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@En3rgyLee I try to respond to everyone as I know it's time they spent writing to me so it's only fair, plus you guys are cool! Oh yeah I'm actually subbed to that guy and he makes some really cool builds! Dang, I honestly have never put PAS on any of my builds, it just never appealed to me as I like full control over the power with the throttle. From what you're saying it sounds like it's just not connected, like nothing is happening right? If it was working before, most issues usually are that the magnets are too far from the sensor to read it, they need to be like almost touching, but not, I would mess around there first 👍I will experiment with PAS on some future builds just to familiarize myself, but honestly I don't need it. Maybe I just ride weird but I'll usually just pedal randomly whenever I feel like it. Thanks man!
@Kallingalwahab-bw8zi
@Kallingalwahab-bw8zi 5 месяцев назад
Nice, very useful video bro,
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
Thanks man!
@TyouV
@TyouV Месяц назад
thank you. excellent.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
🍻
@robbrenton9438
@robbrenton9438 5 месяцев назад
Awesome video
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
Thanks man! 🍻
@thelavalattergamer6242
@thelavalattergamer6242 Год назад
Thank you a lot
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much man!
@LJC5865
@LJC5865 8 месяцев назад
Just bought 60v 2000w powerpack battery and nbpower 2000w rear hub kit..worked late nite in the morning hooked up again for test ride and display works no motor spin w throttle damn. Voltmeter tests evthing ok and this hall tests good. Got to check new throttle tho got to make the 3 battery rig to test it next. Great vid thanks liked n subd. Took it to 3 big bike shops none work on them so becoming a bike mechanic learn electric darn rather ride. Probably should of wired an on off battery switch and fuse 1st but learn as i go waiting for that to arrive.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 8 месяцев назад
Recheck all connections (even disconnect and reconnect to make sure). If all test with a multimeter then could be an issue at a component level. If you just bought it get NBpower involved as you may need to return/warranty one of the parts, see what they say or if they have troubleshooting steps for you specifically 👍I'm sure you've thought of it already, but I know from some of my bikes if you set the power level on the display to "0" then nothing will happen when you turn the throttle, must be set to 1 or above that. It's sad that a lot of bike shops will not touch ebikes, I heard somewhere that it is a liability/insurance thing, but still they aren't that complicated. Hope you get your issues sorted very quickly, thanks man!
@LJC5865
@LJC5865 8 месяцев назад
Got an update thank you for the suggestions..how I finally got it to work again. I found a YT vid showing how to with my sw900 display. On the video at setting 16 is his reset just press the up key. Mine has 19 settings and nothing 16-18 but on #19 it reset and turned off. Turning back on it works again. So when I first hooked everything up and it worked I also played with the settings before calling it a day. I learned how lite comes on and set to mileage hate the word kilometers and those odd az numbers and messed with others but what I did wrong idk maybe one of those the video mentioned leave on factory. Got 0.3 miles on her now. Wish I'd written down what was on the settings before I started messing with it. So nothing will ever go wrong again it's fixed. Na just hope I get 40 miles in at least.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 8 месяцев назад
@@LJC5865 Awesome man, glad you got it figured out. I think it's always good to mess around with the settings, but always make sure you remember what you change, and just change one thing at a time so that if something does happen, you can go undo what was done 👍
@sidharthaswain3521
@sidharthaswain3521 29 дней назад
you are GOAT
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 29 дней назад
🐐Thanks man
@CallOfDutyMenace
@CallOfDutyMenace Год назад
Thanks bro
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
🤘👽🚀
@babumanikuttan2258
@babumanikuttan2258 10 месяцев назад
Your poster is super
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 10 месяцев назад
Thanks man!
@oussamasmida4796
@oussamasmida4796 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video 👍 ... but for the same position of the wheel i have two hall sensors giving 5 V ... and my motor is stuck
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 6 месяцев назад
Check for shorts on your phase wires, it should operate as shown in my video, if it's not then you just have to figure out why (shorts, faulty component, etc). Usually if two phase wires are touching it will make the motor very difficult to turn as the motor is generate magnetic force in the opposite direction. A stuck motor can also be mechanically stuck (bearings, etc).
@oussamasmida4796
@oussamasmida4796 6 месяцев назад
I checked all the wire and the phases ... everything seems to be fine but the motor won t turn ... i made a video if u can check plz m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k5iKssrFNh4.html&pp=ygUgdHJvdHRpbmV0dGUgw6lsZWN0cmlxdWUgZW4gcGFubmU%3D Thank u
@dust6242
@dust6242 Год назад
Great video! Do you think it would be possible to run two hub motors on one controller? Thank you..
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks man, I'm pretty sure it's possible (as shown in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wRyYi1SQm5s.html) but for real world usage all I've ever seen is dual controllers and I'm sure there is a reason for it 👍
@Themonster81iq
@Themonster81iq 3 месяца назад
Oh man. thank you so much for this informative tutorial, I have a question and need your help please, I had tested all wires like you did all have signal of 5 volt without turning the wheel except the yellow one doesn't show any signal with or without turning the wheel what is that means ? am I on the same tracking or I missed something? Thanks in advance
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
Thanks man! They all should show 0-5 oscillating, I would first check continuity on your yellow wire and if that checks out, then look at the sensor itself. You can even swap sensors to see if one is faulty or not. 👍
@Themonster81iq
@Themonster81iq 3 месяца назад
Thanks again man. I have my speedometer is reading 0 all times maybe this is related to one of the sensors@@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
Yes it is very possible. @@Themonster81iq
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Год назад
Very useful information. Thank you! My question is. How to determine the order of the hall sensors if the hub motor came with random hall sensor colors? I got a DIY Bionx motor converted to external controller online and the person who did the conversion did not follow the standard of color coding the hall sensors and power etc... Opening the motor is not an option because I would have to dismantle the wheel, remove the spokes... This motor opens just from the middle like a book.
@CD31337
@CD31337 Год назад
Trial and error
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks so much Diogo, oh - check out the link in the description (first one) it will have a chart you can use to determine the correct sequence 👍 or you can do just trial an error, note that it's not just the phase wires that need the right sequence, it's both the phase and hall wires, so it can take a while to find the right combo.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
That totally works, but on the first link in the description there is a chart that shows all the combinations so you can more easily find it 👍
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Год назад
@@hightech-lowlifeI know that chart mate but I thought would have a more efficient way to do it. Thank you so much anyway, I appreciate it. FIY this cheap hub motors can get up to 5kw if you fill them up with oil for extra cooling, beef up the phase wires and seal them properly to avoid leaking. Could it be an idea for a video?! It's up to you to decide but I hope you like the idea. Cheers!
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Oh yeah, I think it still takes time to figure out the combo, there may be a better way to do it or a faster way but I haven't come across one yet. I'll have to check it out, thanks for the suggestion on the video! I know you can do shunt mods and squeeze more power out of smaller motors too with extra cooling. I'll definitely think about it 👍
@tonybalony9432
@tonybalony9432 Месяц назад
Took all screws off that were holding cover. Cover starts to remove, but then stops. Any suggestoons?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
Check for any obstructions that would prevent it from coming fully off. How much is it moving before it stops? Once the screws are out the only thing holding it on is friction, it's possible you just need to pull/pry harder.
@Ch33secakeGaming
@Ch33secakeGaming Год назад
Hey I did the continuity test, even replaced my hall sensors but the motor still seems to be twitching. Any suggestions?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
It's unlikely, but still possible that the new hall sensors are not working properly, did you test them for proper operation by using the method I showed in the video by hooking up a DMM and rotating the wheel/magnets? Disconnect the main phase wires (3 larger colored wires) and then connect any combination of two to each other and try to turn the wheel while holding them together, it should be very hard to turn due to the resistance. Try it with different pairings of the colors, if you're getting resistance with every combination then your phase wires are good. It's also possible it's not the motor that is the issue. If you have or can borrow another (known working) controller to sanity check, I would try that to rule it out. Could also be possible it's the throttle/PAS. I would narrow down the cause of the issue to the motor first 👍
@bobetization
@bobetization 11 месяцев назад
the green light in our trottle is dead only yellow & red is working but yesterday when we go to park still working then suddenly stop, now the motor wont rotate , we dont know what to do now
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
I would recommend doing the checks I outlined in the video 👍
@JaybeezyOG_tv
@JaybeezyOG_tv 15 дней назад
So I have a head scratcher for you. Hub motor runs perfectly fine off the ground but stutters on the ground any thoughts?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 15 дней назад
Did you run through the tests outlined in the video?
@CallOfDutyMenace
@CallOfDutyMenace Год назад
I built a mini e-bike, (not a kit) It was working fine, it was running perfect, I went to those shop, Left it outside and wen I came back out, It was dead, The trigger throttle is working, Showing full charge on the battery but just zero movement from the motor. No noise, nothing, I’ve tried everything, I’m lost, s0 close to buying a new motor, I’m going to open the motor in the morning
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Yes, if everything else is looking like it's working fine, then time to open it up and look inside. I hope this video can help you identify the issue and that it's a cheap fix. 👍
@coryb4483
@coryb4483 6 месяцев назад
I'm having a hall sensor error on an NB Power 2000w rear hub motor. I did the first part of the test where I made sure the hall sensor was getting power and it is. I jacked the bike up and turned the wheel and all three wires are moving between 0-5 on the meter. I did do one thing by mistake when I first started. I unhooked the connector to the hall sensor and used the meter to test the three wires coming from the controller. Two of the three show about 2.9 (blue and green) and the yellow shows 0. Not sure if this means anything. At this point do I need to open the motor and test continuity and so forth as shown in the video if all three wires rotate like they should? Thanks
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 6 месяцев назад
Another thing you can try is touch your phase wires from your motor together, when you touch two of them it should make the wheel much harder to turn, try different combinations but any two together should cause it to be harder to turn by hand. endless-sphere.com/sphere/threads/how-to-test-motor-phase-wires.37271/
@coryb4483
@coryb4483 6 месяцев назад
What would that mean if it's harder to turn? Also I mentioned that I unplugged the hall sensor plug and tested the three wires coming from the controller to the hall sensor plug and the yellow wire tested zero while the blue and green tested around 2.9. Could that mean anything?@@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
Your reply went to youtubes flagged section for comments which I don't check often. @@coryb4483 It would mean that the phase wires are good because there is opposing resistance from the magnets. When turning the wheel you should see 0-5v oscillations as it turns for each signal wire, if you're only seeing 0v on yellow to me that would indicate an issue with the hall sensors.
@easybeart
@easybeart Месяц назад
My scooter motor doesn't run forward, but the controller sees the motor speed when I turn it by hand , putting the scooter in "lock" mode makes the motor very hard to turn both forward and backward, and rotating the motor backwards and hitting the throttle causes it to stop. What could be wrong?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
Did you test the hall sensor and phase wires as shown in the video?
@Kallingalwahab-bw8zi
@Kallingalwahab-bw8zi 5 месяцев назад
how To run without hall sensor to test run by hub motor and different controller bro?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 5 месяцев назад
You'll need a hall sensor to do these tests 👍
@magnetars6477
@magnetars6477 4 месяца назад
I had to replace motor wires cos of damage , when I changed the wires I also change out hall sensor wires , wires are now different colors and doesn't match the one controller have. I screw all back and forgot in what sequence sensors were, but no matter how I changed them it seems that doesn't matter. even when I plug off the hall sensor cable wheel still turns as usual, can I leave it like that or should I open my wheel again and redo all the work ?? p.s sensors read 0.8v max for some reason
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 4 месяца назад
If things are working, then I would leave it. The wire colors do not have to match as long as the pulse sequence is right for smooth operation. 👍
@magnetars6477
@magnetars6477 4 месяца назад
@@hightech-lowlife I disconnect the sensor wire from controller and it still works just fine. Im thinking maybe I should just get rid of sensors and wire in thicker power cables, what is the downside of that idea and does motor suffer from it, thanks.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 4 месяца назад
Some controllers are dual-mode: endless-sphere.com/sphere/threads/can-i-run-my-controller-without-the-hall-sensor-plugged-in.118999/ The sensor wires allow for a smoother operation, but if you can't tell the difference and it works fine for you, then yes you can run it that way without issues 👍 Most phase wires are more than adequate for way more than their rated power, it won't hurt to make them larger, but probably not necessary unless you're upping the power considerably.
@Asfanboy1
@Asfanboy1 7 месяцев назад
I have a motor like this and its making noise at low rpm. Performance haven't changed it just makes noise from a dead stop. Any advice is it normal?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 7 месяцев назад
What kind of noise? Could be bearings.
@Asfanboy1
@Asfanboy1 7 месяцев назад
@@hightech-lowlife it's a new bike so I doubt it. It only does it when I'm on the bike it makes 0 noise when I'm off it and ita fine even when I pedale it without using the motor. It feels like a vibration and like the wheel is going under me. Idk I can't really explain it. And ita 🌧️ 🌧️ like mad so I can't make a video/audio. It's been doing this for 700km.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 7 месяцев назад
@@Asfanboy1 You may be able to see an issue if you take it apart, but to me sounds mechanical. Maybe something is loose or wearing strangely.
@donl1411
@donl1411 11 месяцев назад
I have an Aventon ebike and the display is showing E30 but it rides fine, pedal assist ok, throttle ok. The only issue I see wrong is the speedometer is not showing speed. The display is new, thinking the white speed sensor motor output from hub motor is bad ? Does that output also use a hall sensor as the 3 phase sensors utilize in the hub motor ? Thanks
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
I would recheck connections, find out what is being output from the motor on the white wire and see if you can measure it, this will let you know if it's that wire, the motor, or the display.
@donl1411
@donl1411 11 месяцев назад
@@hightech-lowlife Thanks for the quick reply, is the speed sensor (white wire) the same pulsed output as the other hall effect sensors?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
@@donl1411 Not sure, but probably not. Most hub motors I have seen do not have a dedicated speed sensor wire, as I believe the controller will calculate speed via the hall sensors. I think you might mean the white wire that is coming from the controller, not the hub motor? If the motor is working fine, then it's either the controller, the display, or the connection between them. If nothing has changed and it was working before, and you have checked and rechecked the connections (unpugging, then replugging the connections) *VERY IMPORTANT TO TRY FIRST* and it's still not showing correctly then my next thoughts would be a hardware fault in one of the components tied to the speed display (either display, controller, or connection/connectors between them). I don't have any personal experience with aventon bikes or products but from my quick search for your problem it appears their support is very good. It's going to be a lot better than a random person on youtube 😎my suggestion would be to reach out to them for help as they are going to know way more about how to troubleshoot and fix this specific problem. Plus if you do need a replacement, they're going to be the ones that can help you with that the best. Depending on how old your bike is you may still be under warranty also, so inquire about that as well. electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/aventon-level-e30-code.49323/ rideaventon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Good luck man 🍻
@donl1411
@donl1411 11 месяцев назад
@@hightech-lowlife Thanks will contact them.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
@@donl1411 👍🍻
@phillloydjones5139
@phillloydjones5139 Год назад
I'm stuck with a problem with my voilamart 1500w could you help me dude ? It will spin when under no load (bike upside down) when I put the bike upright it just jerks forward a little bit and knocks I'm super stuck
@phillloydjones5139
@phillloydjones5139 Год назад
I cannot find anyone who has had the same issue lol
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Do the easy stuff first: check all wiring. Look for any chaffing or splits in the insulation, check all connections to be secure and free from corrosion. After that I would do these hall sensor tests and see if that seems to check out. I would start with these first. 👍
@user-lc7ff1xw5e
@user-lc7ff1xw5e 2 месяца назад
How to buy diagnoses for hall sensor.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 2 месяца назад
What do you mean?
@liamdtraxxas2011
@liamdtraxxas2011 Год назад
Hi can u help please, with the scooter turned off the wheel is hard to turn its notchie, if I unplug it the wheel free spins I've tried another wheel it's the same thing, it don't move when it's turned on and the walk mode don't work aswel,
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Have you checked the hall sensors like I have shown in the video? Thanks
@liamdtraxxas2011
@liamdtraxxas2011 Год назад
I sent the message then see the rest of the video. My bad sorry bro,
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@liamdtraxxas2011 It's possible it's not the motor at all, but I outlined a lot of things to test and try to get you closer to finding the problem. If all the tests check out good, then it could be an issue with the controller or throttle.
@jesseunderwooh1258
@jesseunderwooh1258 9 месяцев назад
I just got a brand new qs165 and it’s throwing a motor hall error just checked the hall wires and they all stay at 9 v and don’t move other than white and that’s at 3v idk what’s going on plz help
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 9 месяцев назад
Most QS motors have dual hall sensors, try the other connector. If it's brand new send it back for a replacement. No use wasting time trying to fix something that is supported, leave that for them to figure out 👍
@jesseunderwooh1258
@jesseunderwooh1258 9 месяцев назад
@@hightech-lowlife dual hall sensors? I don’t understand, as in two separate clips? Mine only has one 6pin hall and the 3 phase wires
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 9 месяцев назад
@@jesseunderwooh1258 Yes most QS motors I've seen have dual halls for redundancy. I looked up your model and it is a mid-drive, and they may not do that for their mid-drive motors. You'll also want to make sure you purchased the hall sensor version and not the encoder version (depending on what controller you have) there are two versions of this motor and if you picked up the wrong one it won't work for the controller you're trying to use it with. If you bought this new, then I would reach out to the seller you bought it from (or QS motor themselves) and let them know the issue, I'm sure they will be able to sort you out way better than I could 👍
@jesseunderwooh1258
@jesseunderwooh1258 9 месяцев назад
@@hightech-lowlife got it thank you for your time gonna see what the company says hopefully tomorrow
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 9 месяцев назад
@@jesseunderwooh1258 No worries man, I'm all for helping and DIYing as much as possible, but when you buy something new it should work as expected, and if it doesn't then it's on someone else to deal with (that's what you pay extra for, as opposed to buying something used with no warranty) 👍I hope the new one they send you works 100%. What bike/moto frame are you installing this on? What battery did you buy/make? Thanks!
@Jim-ep7vd
@Jim-ep7vd 2 месяца назад
Hub is bumpinging when turned is a brake dragging
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 2 месяца назад
Not sure, would need a lot more information on the problem to help you out.
@didzeens12
@didzeens12 Год назад
One hall sensor shows 2,45 v all time. If i turn nothing changes. Changed hall sensor twice. Couldnt be that both of them show the same
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
If you replaced the hall sensor and that didn't fix the issue, then that symptom may not be caused by the hall sensor, check your wiring leading to the hall, check the PCB, etc.
@videocrackent.3486
@videocrackent.3486 3 месяца назад
So I did all the above tests and everything seems good . So if im geting 0-5 junps while spining the wheel the sensors are ok ? 😢 I'm out of ideas
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
What is the problem?
@videocrackent.3486
@videocrackent.3486 3 месяца назад
​@hightech-lowlife my hub makes grinding noise ,seems it spins very had when power is engaged. I suspected the sensor but I did troubleshooting from this video and its getting 0-5 v jumps on the multimeter when I spin the wheel . I checked cables for continuity. Would a fault in controller have similar symptoms? I was going through some heavy terrain mud and stuff and when I went to move of from stop just started making this noise with bearly any power, only going up to around 200-300w on the screen I made it home engine was hot , top speed was around 20kn/ph (1000w hub). I opend the hub up no sign on any damage or debri
@videocrackent.3486
@videocrackent.3486 3 месяца назад
​@@hightech-lowlifeI have the bike upside down now , when i apply throttle it will only spin if I give it a little push
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
@@videocrackent.3486 Grinding usually indicates an issue with something mechanical (binding, tightness, etc) as opposed to something electronic. Check the bearings on the axle, see if there is any debris or metal shavings/chips that could be causing the wheel to be harder to rotate. Sometimes magnets can get slightly misaligned causing them to catch on the rotor as it turns. Things like that.
@videocrackent.3486
@videocrackent.3486 3 месяца назад
@hightech-lowlife I mean , if there is no power applied, the wheel turns freely that's why I thought I could be the sensor. Thanks for your reply tho
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Год назад
Love the......M a s k @#$@% asf bro no questions 1Oo% im gonna make a headlight outta one for my m i n i bike
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Thanks man!! You totally should that is a cool idea
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife lol crazy shit bro Lets Goooo i Love thiS worrrrrrrld.... Robotic voice from that mOvie with mathew broderic ....war games lol
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@Spacecruizer203 Yeah love that movie, 80's movies are the best 👍🍻
@brianwayne7999
@brianwayne7999 Год назад
Was just wondering how is kitty cat?I have one myself whom I love very much
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Hey thanks! Unfortunately my cat passed away a while ago. He was about 17 and lived a great life.
@kibou5832
@kibou5832 Год назад
On blue i get 4.8-4.9v On green i get 4.5v And on yellow i get 3.5v Should i replace Yellow and Green or is it totaly fine to get only 4.5v on one Sensor?
@kibou5832
@kibou5832 Год назад
I measured again and now i got on green 3v and on Yellow 1v i am Sure now that both are broken.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@kibou5832 Yes, I think 4.5 is ok, but 3 and 1 are not 👍
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Год назад
i need a light up glowing carbon fiber top plate with circuit board look for the top of my 212cc
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Cool man, it's totally doable!
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife lol ill figure it out hey man Thanks for the reply it shows u really are a Human lifeform and not a Robot
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@Spacecruizer203 Awesome man, yeah I'm definitely human, maybe a cyborg in the future though 🤖
@chrishogg2850
@chrishogg2850 Год назад
Can anyone tell me what error 02 indicates?
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/sw-900-lcd-controller-02.31661/
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 3 месяца назад
you the man! i got a 5000watt motor i pretty sure bad sensor, anyone know if its likely to be the same process for 5000watt motor or am i more likely to need a puller tool...
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
Should be same steps for larger motors as "most" hub motors are constructed the same.
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 3 месяца назад
​@@hightech-lowlife its funny I have had them for about 7 years and had seen a vid saying you needed special tool and it was tricky...so I avoided taking the cover off for years, just took it off today, super easy. the only problem I have is mine has two sets of 5 wires, the red yellow black greeen and blue...yellow is my dead sensor. but the side I have taken of has 3 sensors going to the other group of wires which i think is for a differnt type of controller. so i think my hall sensor is on the other sire but i need to take the cog thiungy off before I can take that cover off and I dont have the tool, will get tomorrow. Brand new $500 motor blew hall sensor first time as didnt install torque arm correctly, had moved to a higher torque wheel :( but I think im close to repair now, i have an old motor of same spec with good sensors so i can take one of those and swap it out
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
Most larger motors have two sets of hall sensors (one is for backup), before doing anything else I would plug the other hall sensor in and see if everything works 👍@@andosoup98
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 3 месяца назад
@@hightech-lowlife ah i was wondering if that was the case so had held off doing any more until the manufacturer responds to question. what i did do was use multimeter on black wire, then i can see 3v on the working hall sensors as i move the wheel around...but on the other unused wires I don't see any 3V. so now the theory could be they also need their own 5v supply but the color codes arent obvious hence waiting to hear back from manufacturer for advise...but thanks so much for the quick responses you have really help a lot, i was so excited about the new motor then so disappointed when i broke it so quickly, lol. manufacturer had sent incorrect torque arm so wasnt all my fault, hehe. living in New Zealand very limited with anywhere to take it to be fixed and i cant send it back to china so im on my own, lol. at least I have over come my fear of openeing them, this fear was so great with a 1500w motor after blowing a sensor i ordered a new controller that doesnt need hall sensors, but its a bit rough and only go up to 45amp so not a solution for my 5000w wheel
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 3 месяца назад
Yes it will be a duplicate, so if you're not feeding it 5V, nothing can go through the circuit meaning nothing can be read back as there is nothing happening 👍@@andosoup98
@normanwray1341
@normanwray1341 4 месяца назад
Hello friend yes sir I wish you could help me to now how to understand me brushless convertor moto 😅
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 4 месяца назад
Thanks man
@tonupharry
@tonupharry Год назад
My head hurts cos of the relentless monotone delivery slow down
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
I'll have you do the voiceover next time 👍
@mustafabarham4338
@mustafabarham4338 2 месяца назад
13.MOSFET High Side Error what is that nanjing fardriver
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 2 месяца назад
You need to work on your googling: endless-sphere.com/sphere/threads/fardriver-fault-14-mosfet-lowside-error-help.120262/ That's for lowside error, but I'm assuming highside is very similar. Mosfet problem internally within the controller.
@SketchbookGuitar
@SketchbookGuitar Год назад
But what if while you hold your throttle and then reverse the bike it works? but still showing motor error display.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Can you let me know what you mean by "hold your throttle and then reverse the bike"?
@SketchbookGuitar
@SketchbookGuitar Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife im having a motor issue but the odd thing is when i throttle it wont work unless the motor itself spins the otherway first(you push the bike backwards/reverse) while holding throttle. It'll either work like normal or sometimes stutter but still shows motor error on thr display
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@SketchbookGuitar Ok, did you go through the checks and tests I outlined in the video? What were the results?
@SketchbookGuitar
@SketchbookGuitar Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife So I have 4 hall sensors (ADOA20XE not sure if the one on top is a hall sensor or something else) I found out that out that one of them pulses but at only 2.60v ( I was doing the test while you asked the results)
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@SketchbookGuitar If one is reading different than the others, that could be an issue.
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Месяц назад
after going through all these steps and finding nothing wrong im assuming the connector in the controller is broken
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
If the connector in the controller is faulty then I don't think it would be possible for the rest of the tests to succeed, although I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "connector in the controller"?
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Месяц назад
@@hightech-lowlife hmm good point and what i meant was theres a connector in the controller that leads to the hall sensors
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Месяц назад
@@hightech-lowlife but yeah jeez i think ur right that the tests wouldn't succeed if the controller wasn't connected properly to the halls sensors
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
@@tbounds4812 This is true 👍What issue are you having?
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Месяц назад
@@hightech-lowlife error 19 on a ninebot g30 max scooter its related to incorrect hall sensor values from the motor
@bunnygetspancake6916
@bunnygetspancake6916 11 месяцев назад
what if I'm only getting 0.4v from the controller? I don't even have the motor hooked up. It's just 0.4v from the red and black wires from the controller. Pls help :/
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
This would indicate you have an issue with your controller if it's supposed to be outputting 5V and you're only seeing 0.4V.
@robbrenton9438
@robbrenton9438 5 месяцев назад
Did you find a solution to your controller only outputting .4 v instead of 5v ? I have same problem !
@Cuttablebeast1
@Cuttablebeast1 3 месяца назад
Probably need to replace controller ​@@robbrenton9438
@abdullahnaveed-4624
@abdullahnaveed-4624 Месяц назад
Hi
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Месяц назад
Hey
@brianwayne7999
@brianwayne7999 Год назад
Just to get away from the tech for a moment.check out George Carlin on the environment. Hopefully it will make you laugh
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
Oh yeah Carlin is the best man, thanks!
@dmajor77
@dmajor77 11 месяцев назад
This area is a poor design by Bafang. Bike shops will not help you.
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife 11 месяцев назад
Some bike shops will work on electric bikes, but most will not. 👍
@departe5672
@departe5672 Год назад
I have done the first test,and I got some strange values...with the battery on and all the wires connected,soo I have taken out the cables from the bike and I have not connected the wires that go to the rear wheel where the motor is,soo I measured the current from the controller and are ok,one question,how can I measure the 3 wires that are going to the motor power,those fat 3 wires,the green,blue and Yellow one that I found to be black...?Also I will try and open up the motor from the wheel to see if that's the problem...
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
To test the larger phase wires, you'll want to tie two of them together (touch the ends of the leads of them together) and try to rotate the wheel, it should be very hard to turn when they are touching, but easy to turn when they are not touching. More info here: electricbike.com/forum/forum/kits/golden-motor-magic-pie/110168-testing-bldc-motor-s-phase-wiring-hall-sensors-and-wiring
@departe5672
@departe5672 Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife soo found one small green wire cut,got that one sorted out,and put it to the test without connecting everything,just wanted to see if I can get ride of error E07...now is error E08, that's the throttle missing,soo I went to the bike, connecting everything and guess what?E10...I have disconnected the pedal assist plug,got E07 :)) ,went inside the house and got another pedal assist sensor plus new round plastic with 8 magnets on it and connect that one and no error on the display but nothing is happening,I had out the P05 on it..not starting when I press the throttle, nothing if I play with the round plastic with magnets on top of the pedal assist sensor either... maybe the new pedal assist sensor is not ok as it has different colour wires than the other one,like red is still on the middle but the yellow one is on the other side where the old one had the black one... should I try and swap them over and see?? Don't know what to do anymore:(
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@departe5672 Looks like you're on the right track, good job man! Did pure throttle work before? I would try swapping the pedal assist wires if they are not matching up, see what happens. If the green wire was cut, I would check thoroughly for other wires if they had been affected too.
@departe5672
@departe5672 Год назад
@@hightech-lowlife Well... that's the thing,I got this bike as a non runner,no history with it.But looks like new,it has done arou1000 miles.Soo I don't know what was ok or not with it.I will swap the wires for the pedal assist between them,also when I first open the inside of the wire looms first fing that I found was 2 green plastic protection of the 3 big main wires that are going to the motor melted and black,don't know what happened, but I did cleaned them up and got them connected again making sure they are tight (bullet ones). The light is working,horn is working,I do get 5V on the black and red wires from the controller to the motor,after that I measured the black and green,black and blue,also 4.6 ...but the black and yellow was around 20 v?Maybe something I got wrong?That was with the battery on and something else I noticed,if I press and keep pressing on arrow up +arrow down key,I can enter in the programm mode ,P01,Po2 and soon on to P16 but from Po3 forward I can't modify anything...I can change km to miles,can put brighter display,I manage to Reset the total mileage on it,but can't modify anything else,also if I press and keep pressing on the down arrow it's only appearing that pictogram of a guy next to the PAS on the display,but nothing else,I have seen on different videos that you can also see the time,you can see the battery voltage,I can't see anything like that ...
@hightech-lowlife
@hightech-lowlife Год назад
@@departe5672 If you hold two of the phase wires together, do you feel resistance when trying to turn the wheel?
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