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I have a 2TB Kingston KC3000 in my current PC right now. I was looking at the Kingston NV2 too, but the TBW was so much lower than the KC3000 that I felt like it was worth a few $10 more, the much higher speed was just a bonus. I'm thinking of getting a cheap 1TB gen 3 SSD for my second slot (I've got a B550 motherboard). And I have a 1TB Kingston KC3000 in my PS5.
running a Kingston NV2 1TB as bootdrive (aswell as games i actually play) and a 1TB Seagate Baracuda 3,5" for storage (until i can get my hands on a larger M.2 SSD (4TB+) for a good price)
@@naomy1701 I went with a 970Evo Plus 1TB to exchange with my older 500GB WD Black NVME M.2. I will use it as storage, but in the not too distant future my Seagate 2TB Baracuda will be semi retired (relegated as backup storage externally). I no longer want mechanical hard drives in my systems. Luckily we are approaching the point I can ditch them.
Really appreciate you going in depth explaining on these pc parts not lotta pc builder go this far in depth my pc mess up a while ago and iv been looking up info and your one of the best i found so far stay blessed friend appreciate you bro
nvme storage is really one of the best things to happen to PC building. No cables for power or data. Small and when hidden under a cover, just adds to a very clean build. I love them.
@@pavelstoikov3780 2tb is the perfect price to capacity size right now. unless you are constantly reading and writing massive files to and from that SSD (which a consumer is not) you are not gonna take an nvme drive to its throttling temp for long enough during its TBW lifespan. It's likely that the drive's capacity will become obsolete (ie 4 or 8Tb drives will be the new sweet spot) long before heat or data writes kill it, as long as you get a reasonably good one like samsung, sabrent, crucial etc. basically no. the temp is fine. just play the games and enjoy life.
yeah.. except if you want to run several SSDs and a sound card and are now often even more restricted in the amount of available PCIe-slots for all the components...
Finally someone tells everything as it is. If you already have a good SATA SSD, there is no need to pay for NVME unless you can get it for very cheap. A normal user and gamer will hardly even notice the difference. Of course, NMVE is attractive because of the cleaner aesthetics of PC. I personally bought a Kingston NVME 1TB for 30 euros, which was a very good price, so let me say right away that the difference between SATA and SSD is very small (2 seconds boot and 1-2 seconds when opening games), nothing I couldn't live without
Yes if you already have one, if you're only starting with SSDs or already have M.2s installed, there's no reason to get a SATA one unless you run out of M.2 slots. I'm kinda pissed that I have to get a SATA SSD for additional storage because they're more expensive and I have no more M.2 slot 😂.
The greatest change you will see is booting the OS, the feeling when you press the button and no longer have time to do chores is amazing. On gaming you will see a difference if you have an adventure game where you teleport to different maps back and forth. It is also great when verifying files after a big update. It is an overall happier life but not as incredible as cpu/gpu update.
My twin grandsons recently ran out of storage space on the PCs I built for them over a year ago. Both had 1TB NVMe SSDs which cost around $100 apiece at the time. Imagine my surprise when I came across a PCIe 3x4 3000 MB/sec 2TB drive that cost only $69!I immediately got two of them to replace the old drives, clones the old systems with Macrium / Acronis, kids got immediate benefits and no difference in performance. Now I’m thinking of getting a 4TB version for $170. 😂
Those 2tb would have made a perfect second drive 100% for game storage. Migrating games with EA/Origin & Steam is easy. At this point I would put the 1tb back in as secondary game storage. I just prefer a smaller OS boot drive and big game drive as you have less OS to back up if you separate OS/Apps and game storage.
@@45eno That's how I do it too. I'm using like C: WIN 95GB on 1TB 980 Pro While 1.5Tb of a 2TB 970 EVO as D: I don't want too much to worry about if I have to reinstall or clone an OS drive... But, I hate having to take off my Cooler for it, though.
Be careful with the Silicon Power A80. Not sure if you are familiar with the recent part swaps done by SP. It used to be a good drive but now comes with very cheap parts like the controller was switched, DRAM swap ect. I did a build with it recently and had to return it because of the constant corruptions of my files. That definitely could explain the massive price drop we've seen for the drive and why its so cheap now.
The Silicon Power A55 will perform well at first, but after 2-3 months use, the write speed will drop dramatically. At first, read and write speeds were both around 400 MB/s, but within 3 months, all 4 of the SSDs I bought had all dropped their write speed to below 100 MB/s. The read speed did not drop. I tried reformatting them to see if their write speed would return to normal, but it did not. I've never had that happen with any other brand I've used. Jason, I really wish you would test these SSDs to see if they hold up over time, or if their write speed drops like the ones I was using.
One SSD I don't see mentioned much but has a good price is the Silicon Power UD90. It's a Gen 4 drive with good speeds and right now is only $45 for 1TB and only $90 for a 2TB.
Sorry for my English, it's not my native language and I'm translating as best I can. Perhaps it would have been useful to make a summary table for both speed/price and "writing resistance"/price. Not all models on sale in general have decent values, while only some have very high values, hence also some price differences. Of the 1TB models the declared values are: Samsung 980 Pro has 600 TBW, Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1800 TBW (which makes it stand out above all the others), WD SN850X 600TBW, Crucial P5 Plus 600TBW, Silicon Power P34A80 800TBW, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 600TBW.
I agree that the typical home computer no longer requires traditional hard drives, but if you are like me and require a lot of storage that is quickly accessible, running traditional hard drives in a Raid or NAS is still the better way to go when it comes to the amount of storage and overall cost. Spinning discs will be with us for a long time yet.
Second post, if you are a gamer running new triple A titles get the 2 TB drive! One TB fills up really fast, even if you just use your system for small games and watching online streams a 1tb drive will start to fill up to 400gb just from OS updates etc.
The Teamgroup Cardea Zero Z440 (graphene or not), not to be confused with the DRAM-less Z44L, solid gen 4 option as well. ~5GB/s seq. reads, ~4GB/s seq. writes, 1GB DRAM cache for the 1TB version, Kioxia flash, 1800 TBW threshold, 5-year warranty, and it has been around the $53-55 range recently, instead of the $60+ from last year. The other thing to consider is drive longevity. QLC is said to wear down faster than TLC, so it tends to be recommended as a mass storage drive rather than a boot drive (more reads than writes). Personally I'd still go with a drive equipped with DRAM cache as my boot drive, and grab a DRAM-less one for extra storage, especially for old SATA builds that can't accomodate an NVME due to lack of PCIE lanes. Currently using a Crucial MX500 as a boot drive for an old system that I unfortunately bought right before the massive dip in SSD prices (from $70 back in January, down to $50 as of right now), but it pretty much gave extra life to a near-decade old system. I'll be upgrading to that Cardea Zero Z440 in the near future, though.
I have 17.25tb of NVMe between all my systems and honestly the SN570 is my favorite bang for buck. I have 4tb of gen4 speed drives in my main rig but they give me nothing more than what my sn570’s give me for game loading. The sn570 is faster full of data than my older dram equipped gen3 drives like a sx8200. Going forward only buy 2tb or bigger as m2 slots are limited. Boot drives of course can be smaller like 500gb. Sn770 is a worthy buy if not much more than a sn570. Both are extremely good value when using for game storage and not professional media use.
for SPP(silicon power SSDs) for gaming it's probably fine, but be aware SP has been bait n switch recently, I recently purchased large batch of their SSDs, with various controller( some good, some really really really bad), and both TLC and QLC Nand were mixed within same models, this applies to both A60 and UD90; on top of that contacting SP via official email has no reply in one week(still no reply) and live chat simply does not work. I had both SPP A60 and UD90 having realtek controller(oppose to good phison), and QLC nand. The performance is less half than what they advertise, even worse, when SLC cache ran out(6~60GB) the SLC cache recovers extremely slow, and the sustained sequential read and write drops to 180~250MB, most of the time sequential read is not affected, but under some cases read will also throttle due to low quality controller. so strongly recommend to stay away unless you know what are getting yourself into.
I went with a 2TB crucial p5 plus since I found it on sale. SSDs admittedly are an area of weakness in my knowledge, but I felt pretty good about that one. I was mostly just stoked that I did a new build and didn't plug in a single sata cable. The future is here
@@CaptainScorpio24 It's seemed perfectly good for my needs. Admittedly I'm not doing that much read/write since the most strenuous thing I do on my PC is gaming. I would guess in your case just shop across all of the gen 4 drives with DRAM and grab whatever size you need that's the best price.
hey, know you made this comment 5 months ago, but was just curious how this SSD was holding up for you? I am about to build a new computer and was looking at the very high end SSDs like the western digital sn850x, but after seeing this video I am thinking I probably dont need to get that since the main thing I will be doing on it is gaming (with some computer programming and development for work). Just curious how you find the SSD 5 months after the fact. and in terms of gaming if you don't mind me asking, what games do you primarily play?
I've gone with 1TB & 2TB SN770. Middle of the road price but good performance, beating many of the expensive drives in some metrics. Also 5 year warranty from a good manufacturer.
Yep, I often point this out to people. In real world tests (Check TechPowerUp's SSD reviews) the SN770 will punch above its weight class. I've got a 1 terabyte SN770 myself. A good choice if you want to save some money for similar performance.
My first SSD in a computer was a 128 GB OCZ Vertex III in the machine I built 12 years ago. I installed the OS on it and had additionally two 2 TB HDD (as they had the best value by that time) which I put into a RAID 0 array.
As scarce as they are, I'd be recommending a Samsung 970 Pro 1TB as an OS Drive if you are either limited to PCI-E 3.0 or if you are concerned about SSD longevity. Ditto for using the Corsair MP510 4TB for a gaming SSD. It's a shame, however, that I have yet to see more MLC-based NVME SSDs for PCI-E 4.0 or 5.0...
This is a good and fairly comprehensive video from the market perspective and looking at options for different people. Where I think you can do better is less focus on sustained sequential writes and reads, which I fully understand the manufacturers try to push down our throats, and instead focus on QD1 random access performance. This is what is going to matter for the vast majority of users when comparing drives.
Except he ignores HDD completely which can be better option for some. Stuff like less chance of data corruption. And because SSD's uses electricity to stare data, if you leave your SSD laying around for like a year or so, it can lose all of it's data
@@geraldauguste3044 It can happen. Of course it will depend on the manufacturer and the components being used so the variety can be from one year to like 25 years. Just power your SSD from time to time, better be safe than sorry, right? Although you should have multiple backups of your important files anyway
Black Friday prices were mostly the same as in this video presented 6 months earlier! I noticed that early in October most big online retailers raised their prices across the board for all drives and then for Black Friday advertised as deals select products with old pricing. I am talking about 500gb-2tb drives both NVME and SATA. I bought the Samsung EVO 870 SATA SSD 1tb for $59.00 minus $5.00 Black Friday coupon, total $54.00. Also bought a Crucial T500 newly released NVME drive, very competitively priced, likely the best deal of Black Friday, $64 for 1Tb with heatsink included. 2Tb was for $102 no heatsink. Generally speaking prices for common sized drives of premium brands did not budge much since the time of your recording. Thanks for the video, was very useful for price comparison. I hear from a lot of people that on most merchandise there weren't many real deals this year.
We track prices all year (in spreadsheets in our monthly GPU/CPU market update videos if you want to check those out) so we are able to post actual deals when we see them! Keep an eye on our community page here on youtube or follow us on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason for those (:
After all these years I look more at warranty's and the hard drive software quality or if it even has one like WD and Samsung do. Keeps your drive uptodate and also makes cloning headache free when going from build to another.
It would be easier to stop buying bad SSD's if there was some kind of regulation in the market. Unfortunately it's like the wild west. At the very least, you should be able to tell if a SSD is TLC or cheap QLC, if it has a Dram cache or not, and what controller it uses. But this info is EXTREMELY hard to come by, and manufacturers tend to produce SSD's with whatever parts are cheaper at the time, so a drive from the same manufacturer and model number can go from being made with TLC and a reliable controller, to QLC with a questionable controller with no warning to consumers. This is why a few known reputable brands always sell for a premium, because they don't do this deceptive kind of stuff like the Chinese manufacturers do. Sorry for the Rant but I'm frustrated with the whole SSD industry because of their deceptive practices. I like to KNOW what I'm buying and so many manufacturers make it impossible to be sure. It's the luck of the draw. SMH
I was a huge fan of Samsung SSDs since my first 830. Then got the 840, 850, 860. So far all good. Then I went with 2 970 EVO Plus and 1 980 Pro. All my NVME broke in less than 6 months. Bad luck? Don't know. I'm since on WD SN750 Gen3 and SN770 Gen4 working flawlessly. Needless to say they are cheaper as well. Don't know, man.
were you downloading and deleting vigorously? did you have a heatsink on those samsung nvme ssd's? im really thinkg about getting a samsung 2tb 980 pro
Plenty of bad SSD's without DRAM and with bad controllers or bad thermal management that will significantly slow down during heavy write loads. Start updating some big Steam game with intensive download or patching, and they just give up. Surely requirements for game drive are low but some ssd can't even manage _that._
Great video, Jason and team! The step up from an HDD to an SSD really is amazing. I have an SN550 main drive, and I think I'm going to add a Silicon Power A60 as a second drive. The price seems to drop $1-2 every day, though, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Yeah, I bought a $25 Crucial 500GB Gen3 SSD today from Amazon for my Dell Inspirion 15! I remember they were riotously expensive and I set them aside until today.
Bought 1TB Intel 670p for 42$ month ago and so far it was excellent for the price. It's QLC with DRAM and Solidigm own custom driver that provides a better experience than generic windows driver. For me personally, it's a better choice than A60 as a budget option for system/game drive because it has DRAM. Alternatively I'd pick certified refurbished EVO 970 for 38$ from Best buy, but they disappear so fast after restocking, I never fast enough to order 😅
I ended up getting the 970 for $38 plus a 5$ coupon. It ended up having 98 GBs written on it already, which isn't too bad. Hoping this thing lasts me for 10 years 😬
@@kotztotz3530 yeah as many people posted on reddit those "geek certified" 970 are basically open box returns, after through testing, almost as new. I just wish they had more in stock for that price, lol.
@@kotztotz3530 Not supposedly, it is. They sold the storage division to Hynix and the result is solidigm and hynix nvme ssd's (m.2 and u.2). I guess they are more known in the enterprise since I almost never see them mentioned on the consumer side.
Very useful video. I think SSD choices are one of the more overlooked topics when it comes to PC building. When I was shopping for my last SSD, I found that the ones marketed toward PS5 users were really overpriced, but things seem to be more settled down now.
Just bought a Solidigm P44 Pro for €135, could have gotten the Kingston Fury Renegade 2tb for the same price, hope I made the right choice! Note: European prices so this is so good a price
It's a good choice but make sure you install their own improved Synergy driver (and update firmware while at it). Solidigm (formerly Intel SSD branch) engineer discussed driver improvements just last week ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8YBeriMsDS0.html
@@PCBuilderChannel They are the renamed intel storage division that intel sold off. The solidigm drives are the evolution of the intel 670p drives which were/are great drives
Just buy the intel 670p 2 tb for $79 if you need direct storage or pcie gen 4 or one for a ps5 get the Solidigm P44 2tb $149 and use the Solidigm nvme driver for both. For sata 2.5 inch SSD just get any Samsung SSD. If you want bulk storage a mechanical hard drive will only be slightly slower than a Dram less SSD.
Thank you so much for this educational video. I was stressing out trying to find DRAM SSDs online and when you said it didn't really matter if you were just gaming, that really changed my perspective on DRAM SSDs. I'll def save more cash going for DRAMless SSDs now. Thank you!!!
I agree with yo9u entirely - BUT... (there's always a BUT!) Most of us have old drives laying around. I am currently on a 2TB Nvme, 4x640GB Barracudas, 70TB external USB 3 drives. My point being... if you have old drives rattling around - use them. Will the game load faster with an Nvme? HELL YEAH!!! But... if you're will to wait a few seconds more.... that old Seagate will be just fine...
Minimum of 2 tb for most gamers imo. 1 tb will probably be ok if you know you're only going to install a couple of games. I've had 2 of the SP drives for 6 months. So far, so good. I just bought a 3rd one.
Indeed, memory prices has collapse hard! Wonder what caused this! I admit, when I switched form Hdd to SSD a couple of year back, my mind was blowned away at how fast everything was!
You no longer see a need for a HDD for mass storage? Wow... I still use and need my mass storage... I have over 16TB of HDD storage for my personal PC.
@@PCBuilderChannel I do my own content library of sorts, mostly family pics, emulator and game archives, music... plus the occasional backup of things here and there. It's an epic mess but $250 for 16TB HDD vs $250 for 4TB SSD is a value proposition for my use. Now, I can't say I don't dream of getting one of those M.2 SOHO SAN appliances... but cheap magnetic disks just have too much capacity. I really wished I could get JBOD for M.2, SATA, SD... but that is getting a bit ridiculous. When the zombie apocalypse happens... I am going to be jamming tunes and playing games in a literal cave under a rock somewhere as I pedal on a generator or stage a guerilla power gen solution. With a meat grinder for a front door. I will be doing humanity a huge favor!
Now is a great time to build a great pc (buying used gpus is much better value than new) and storage and memory is dirt cheap for many models atm. I personally, even for a budget pc wouldn’t look under a 2TB NVME for the prices they’re currently at.
I've seen enough boost my builds to know jason will recommend gen 3 m.2 ssd. Fast as anyone other than the absolute top productivity will need for the lowest $/gb. Can't wait to watch for specific recommendations and game console stats
Only reason i dont like nvmes is because my setup is so ungodly complicated, and it requires putting my entire pc on the floor to even add/replace them. I wish they were hot swappable like sata. Like i can just turn the psu off, take the front glass off, and pretty much just plug it in. No screws, no real hassle on my part
Once you get past the cache for something like large transfers, then the difference between tlc and qlc will be pronounced. TLC will likely be 160MB/s write speed, but the QLC will likely be 80MB/s. Since they are often pretty close in price, it is often worth it to find the one that is TLC even if you have to spend like $5 extra. You just aren't going to notice any difference gaming with whatever the interface.
I'm so glad I found your channel, it has helped immensely in my latest build. You really helped me understand where to spend and where I can save and maintain performance.
SSD's are one of those components I'm happy to buy used. That can make a big difference to the price-performance decision. It all depends what deals you can get at any particular time.
For games just buy crucial sata's SSD. Cheap as hell and games DON'T benefits from using nvme 90% of the time. NVME pice3.0 variant of that (4To) is 40-50bucks more expensive but you don't have cables to manage.
The only downside of higher end SSDs are too costly. You've almost buying a smartphone But as my personal experience, i never get any bad SSDs as you mentioned...but i did a big deal with a good SSDs with a lower prices. Still worth it
the best combo for most people are two SSDs. One 1TB drive as a splurge (WD Black 850x, Samsung 990, or Platinum P41) for $80 and a second 2TB drive on the value end for storage. I recommend the WD Black 770 but you can also look at Crucual drives, Corsair, or even the WD Blue.
For me the best combo is a 2tb SSD for my boot/day to day drive then a NAS full of the old fashioned spinners for longer term storage. I previously had a 512gb SSD that was OK for a while but then I ran out of space and started installing games onto the nas which did not work very well so I was forced into an upgrade (Laptop, single SSD spot no room for duel)
Traditional HDDs still play an important role in personal PC's simply because of their storage capacity of which a single NVME simply cannot offer. With traditional HDD's offering capacities from a mere 1TB to a whopping 20TB it is still a viable and a very attractive storage solution with prices to suit one's budget. Of course the smaller the capacity and the more basic the mechanics, the cheaper the drive. Regardless of NVME or SSD's having the slight edge over a traditional mechanical HDD with less physical real estate in a system build or promising blistering speeds than the latter, NVME will never be quite adequate enough for bulk storage purposes. Speed is simply not enough, add capacity to the format then there will be something to boast about.
I recently picked up a crucial p5 4TB for 170euro, to replace a 4TB (3TB written) disk. A lot of the amazon reviews I saw complained about write speeds slowing down when writing large amounts all at once so I split the transfer into 1TB chunks and I'd say it took about 6-8 hours to transfer everything. While I did observe the usage % in task manager barely going over 10% during the first 2/3 of each write operation it did start spiking up to 100% towards the tail end more consistently towards the end, however the actual write speed had no discernable slow down, keep in mind that this is reading from a seagate barracuda so about 40-80Mbps was about the average and after writing 3TB and benchmarking with the latest crystaldiskmark there was no difference in before/after. In loading times the difference is night and day (obviously going from disk to SSD will do that) and for 170E for 4TB I'd say that is an absolute steal, It is possible that people complaining about speed drops may be talking comparatively with a dram equipped model or may be doing as I did (disk to SSD) in which case the speed decline is more to do with the disks read speed than the SSD write speed. I would probably say this should be a secondary or storage drive and not a system drive as the lack of dram may expose some shortcomings of the design but if you just want somewhere you could install your entire steam library to and get great loading times that is the one I'd absolutely recommend hands down I tend to use my PC very heavily for a variety of work production/gaming and it has done great so far, I'd say aside from very heavy video editing (or anything where you're writing as much as you're reading) I can't see how you could need any more than the P5 provides. Sadly can't say much for longevity since it's only been a week so far but if anything happens and I remember I'll post again.
Just got a PCIE expansion card to swap all my files to my new build. Had I known about these speed boosts earlier I might have updated my old system. Now its just going to be an easier way to transfer everything onto a data drive. I went WD for my drives on this build Gen 4 for boot and storage. Got a spare Gen 3 for a backup drive to make sure my personal info doesn't get corrupted.
Great video, i m planning to build my gaming pc worth ₹200000 ($2500) With Rtx3090/7900xt. But Both are priced at US $1700(after price crash) or instead should I go for rtx40 series ? Subscribed from India.
Thanks for explaining this! About to do a minipc build for emulation, and needed a 2.5 SSD. This helped a lot will snag whichever one is cheapest come prime day!
Finally bought one today and ended up going with 2TB Samsung 990 pro for only 5 dollars more than a 980 pro. Prices went back up I think it was 169 on Amazon for 2 tb and 165 for the 980 pro prices were lower a couple months ago.
I used the link in the description to buy a Windows 10 Pro license. Got a license within a minute of the purchase and also activated it without a hassle (Windows took longer to activate as compared to the time it took to get the license). Thank you for the recommendation. Absolutely worth $17.3 after discount to remove the Windows Genuine watermark. Also, hope activating Windows will no longer throttle performance like Microsoft likes to when windows is not licensed.
cheeeeeeeeeers!!!! honestly awsome. i know ill NEVER tell the diference or ever go long enough to kill one or run into reliability issues cause im a casual AF, but mannnnnnnnn i wanna not have buyer remorse cause 50$ menas nothing to me, but having a 2tb boot drive in my new system there to stay for 5+ years is perfect. im coming from a system with a samsung 870 evo boot drive so its wild~ but still now im leaning samsung 990 pro because the price is almost identical for me at 140$ for 2tb, or ill just go with the SN770 from WD cause PERFECTION without dram tyyyyyyyyyyyy
I built a new machine in May of 2018. I ordered everything from Newegg and went for an XPG SX7000 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe TLC SSD (which I believe was a division of ADATA) as my boot drive ($150)with a pair of 1.5TB HDD's I'd pulled from my previous machine for storage. From the moment the OS install was done there seemed to be a problem with the computer. The browser which came with Windows (whatever it was back then) would not come up. I fiddled and somehow got Firefox installed. It worked. I then installed Norton. Then I started my new shiny machine on the 24 hour task of downloading my Steam library. The next evening I couldn't help myself, I had to play a game. So while the computer continued it's task, I started playing the new "Master of Orion". I played for a few hours and when I was done I exited the game and my library was downloaded. I went to do something else and the mouse cursor would not move. I ended up hitting the reset button thinking this would probably clear it up. The computer rebooted and again, the cursor was centered in the middle of the screen, not moving. I turned it off for the night and got some sleep and went at it again the following morning. I could do nothing. I eventually determined that the SSD was bad out of the box. I RMA'd it and got my money back. I then drove to Microcenter which is essentially just up the street from me (yes, I'm one of those lucky people) and bought a Samsung 970 EVO. I have had no problems with it at all, so I understand why you swear by your 980's. A few years later the price was right so I decided to replace my slow HDD's with an INTEL 1TB SSD which was originally $400, but which cost me only $100 at Microcenter on Black Friday. One of the best moves I've ever made. Kerbal Space Program went from taking 2 minutes to boot to taking only 1 minute. I love your vids. Keep them coming. Subscribed for a while now, and liking this one.
The 6700xt I thought was gone! Beautiful card. It is a speech for amateurs, but it is also the smallest card that you can find a liquid cooler for, if someone wants to build a small jewel worked to perfection, for the sake of doing it, or learn how to liquid cool without spending 4000 euros! I don't want to argue, but with similar prices the consoles has not a lot of meaning by comparison. With the 800 and 1500 dollars builds you can also face the passage of time and techs in all serenity. The 500 dollars build is more or less a ps5 or an Xbox price! But it is a complete computer! And even better in the videogames themselves! Ah ah ah ah ah! Can't believe! Fun great review!
With new mobo's supporting up to 5XM.2 slots, it's becoming realistic to have 10TB+ of M.2 space dedicated for games. I currently have about 8TB's and I am quickly running out. Right now 3x2TB SATAIII SSD's, combined with 3x2TB M.2, and a 6 TB WD Black standard SATAIIII storage drive would be an ideal setup with 12 TB's of high speed SSD storage. My ideal system: 7800X3D ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F 128 GB Trident Z DDR5 6000 Saphire Nitro+ 7900xtx 24GB EVGA 1600W Gold PSU 3X2TB SATAIII SSD's 3X2TB Hynix P41 M.2 SSD's 1x6TB WD Black SATA III Hard disk Total cost: Appx. $3,200.00 That's a pretty future proof setup. Even the system I have now is ridiculous overkill...but it's a compulsive hobby. How many FPS do we really need at this point? I suppose VR may take advantage. VR actually is really cool. I think my next build may be a Dedicated VR machine that I scrape together with some spare parts.
The main reason I use a External SSD is due to ease of use.. Plug and play.. Seen no big difference in anything to justify changing even though it may be cheaper.. Bad things happen to me when I start removing Hard drives/storage whatever.. I rather plug into USB. I run all the latest Steam games with Zero issues having them play off my external drive.. I might Buy a few as a back up perhaps, load each one with a O/S.. But to to just swap out ya nope.. Thank you for the tip about cheap hard drive, I just might pick up a few for poops and giggles..
I finally finished building a new PC this past weekend, to replace my 2012 Dell XPS which I had kept going by using ever-larger SSDs for the OS. For my new PC, I used a 1TB 980PRO for the OS and other programs, with a 2TB RAID 1 HDD setup for photos and music again. But a couple weeks ago there was a great deal on a 2TB 980PRO, only €129, so I bought that for my gaming drive. Can't wait to play some modern games/sims like MSFS, the best I could play before was Cities Skylines or GTA5 at medium/low settings and a fairly slow framerate 😅
I have this in my budget in India. Under or around 6k. Western Digital WD Blue SN580 Western Digital WD Black SN770 Crucial P3 1TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD Seagate Barracuda Q5 SSD 1TB up to 2400 MB/s Western Digital WD Green SN350 NVMe 1TB, MSI M371 1TB PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 2280 3D NAND Western Digital WD Blue SA510 M.2 1TB TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Zero Z440 1TB NVMe MSI M461 1TB PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe 1.4 M.2
Sometimes,I think my strategy for buiding a pc is to watch one year old video from your channel and make my build based on that. It is, I hope, super budget way for me as I need it only for brwosing, youtube, movies, little editing, obs, simple word and office work. Mohamed
4TB NVME SSDs are now around 250% of the price of 2TB drives, that is, it's a better deal to buy 2 2TB drives if you have available slots. I'm just waiting for that to change, 4TB drives got to become cheaper too.
Mechanical hard drives still make sense if you need actually large amounts of bulk storage (8TB+) they just way cheaper then ssds in terms of cost/gb. You can get an 8tb drive for as low as 121€ or a 16tb drive for as low as 220€, which makes hard drives like 4 times cheaper in terms of price per gigabyte/terabyte.
Unless you transfer TB of files for fun or your job entails you to render bridges or buildings, NVME wont matter. You wont notice the difference with SSD vs NVME
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Thanks for the insightful video! Curious why you haven't mentioned Samsung 990 Pro or SK hynix Platinum P41 drives? They are absolute best NVME drives and neck-and-neck with WD SN850X in terms of performance.