I've been road riding for 57 years and had many close calls and was hit and run from behind October 23 2017 and left in a ditch, no witnesses no help when I came to I was able to stand 🙏 but had tremendous pain in my back. I had a little day pack on with a big down puffer jacket in it. This saved my life, when I stood up broken mirror fell out of the pack. Fortunately is somehow didn't kill me or destroy my historic bike. Martijn Maaskant's 2008 Felt F1 Roubaix that he piloted to 4th in 2008 PRB. I got home and went to the Dr and had 7 fracture vertebrae in my lumbar with some nerve impingement of the right leg. Now I have 6 rods and 10 screws in my spine. I've switched to most gravel riding now still able to ride 160mi a week at 62 🙏💪🏁
That’s horrible. Notice the jv’s ride with garmin radars, probably the ones with camera. They won’t protect you from those idiots, but at least you have footage of the car hitting you. I have one of those since there were a few hit & runs in my area. The radar shows cars approaching from behind and relative speed, thus you have a little bit room to act if necessary (car approaching, look over shoulder); but that’s it. Jv riders couldn’t do anything if the merc driver tried to hit them; he/she was soooo close. I don’t think they’ll do this when realized they are filmed…
Sorry to hear about that, sitting here with a fractured arm recovering from a far more minor hit than yours. Out of interest was that in the States or Europe? In the UK here the roads are generally very busy but a close pass law was introduced recently which has improved things a bit.
Wait for a few more years when citizens learn from their governments tolerance to atrocities around the world, ie Gaza. If governments do not care, people will learn not to care also. And it will trickle down to our interactions on the road.
Been road riding for 46 years. Last year quit. Drivers are crazy or angry or distacted or high or a combo. I figured I didn't want to die that way. So I am now on horrid-but safer- bike paths. Sure do miss the road.
Me too, after some close passes by young guys, maybe DUI or distracted, on very quiet roads where they'd only have to slow down for a few seconds to be able to pass safely. The bike paths near me are flat. But recently an old railroad bridge over the Ottawa River has been opened for cyclists and walkers, linking Ottawa and Gatineau. That's going to give me easy access to Gatineau Park, a popular cycling destination, and its rolling hills. I can't wait until it's warmed up enough to tempt me off the indoor bike.
Sadly also the same here in germany…at least one such a situation per tour. But i wont stop driving on the road, they have to life with us as we have to life with them…😅
I cycled between Berlin and Leipzig and did some km on a Bundesstraße. All but one car driver gave all the clearance the road allowed. They were still going fast, but I could tell they were being somehow cautious and respectful. The one that didn't must have been a portuguese migrant...
EX-224-CB Can be sent to the police. If police aren't interested show it to local media. Cycling is big business in these areas and brings in a lot of money.
Well, when a lady managed to drive into my mountain bike, pushing me into the bushes, my bike got its revenge big time. It wedged itself into the bushes, the car snaped off a piece of the bullhorn extensions, creating a razor-sharp edge. The edge caught the side of the car and slid it open from the a-pilor to the trunk. While I was laying in the bushes, mad as hell but in one piece. My problem, a new handle bar, her problem a new car, yeps my bike totalled a car and lived to ride another day.
Location: Tignes (France) *7:40** car:* Excessive speed when overtaking a pedestrian or cyclist (article R413-17 of the highway code). Overtaking a cyclist at less than 1.50 m outside built-up areas (article R414-4 of the highway code). *Cyclists :* Cyclists can ride in groups if the road is wide enough to allow it. However, only two bikes can ride side by side. What's more, when traffic is heavy, cyclists must ride in single file to limit the risk of collision.
i'm a cyclist too and i'd hate being overtaken like this, but the mercedes driver seems surprised to see traffic on the front after the two other car overtaking before him, you can see he was on the left lane at first but quickly went back to the right lane squeezing in the cyclists because he felt there was not enough margin to safely brake and stay behing the jumbo group. And i believe the horn is not for the bikes but for the driver coming in front of him. clearly that's a misjudgement of the situation, but unfortunately it happens. also to be noted this is a local ( 74 is haute savoie ) and they tend to drive quite fast on mountain roads and horn at everyone slower :D
5.1 The Ontario Highway Traffic Act does not explicitly forbid side by side cycling. However, two sections of the Act could reasonably be interpreted as forbidding the practice (but not entirely). 5.2 Section 148(2) & 148(6) both require vehicles to "turn out to the right to allow the vehicle to pass" when being passed by faster moving vehicles. This can be interpreted as forbidding two abreast cycling when a cyclist is being passed by another vehicle. This interpretation is valid, but only for specific situations. Its only common curtesy to let the faster moving vehicles through, to prevent certain individuals from getting triggered and causing harm. IF we took a road home from work and on almost on a daily basis get slowed down by cyclists not singling up for faster traffic some of us would loose it and that's not a battle i want to get into.
The first paved roads in the USA were the result of lobbies by the group of cyclist who ultimately became The league of American wheelmen. So for motorists to say cyclist don't belong on the roads is just completely wrong.
It was the same in the UK and likely across Europe, bikes were around long before mass produced cars. The road is a shared space, a small number of people are so arrogant they don't accept that and act like bullies.
You should get the number plate of the driver and file a complaint to the French police, the driver should be charged or at the very least cautioned for dangerous driving
In Poland you can send the recording to the police and the driver will be fined for not keeping the minimum distance. Usually you will be asked to file a formal complaint but sometimes you are lucky and you don't even have to leave your house.
I recently relocated to Phoenix area from eastern PA and am amazed at the aggressive driving here. People are so nice here until they get behind a wheel and their Mr. Hyde takes over. It’s like their brains have been relocated to the ball of their foot-they have to satisfy it by pressing down-regardless of the outcome. I see people pull into the right lane because there’s some open space right before a line of traffic trying to merge in from an on-ramp.
As someone who's lived in Phoenix for the last 12 years, I concur. I've nearly been killed in my car, let alone on my road bike. I have a nice road bike hanging up in my garage, but I only ride gravel now. I grew up in Canada and am convinced that the average IQ of people here is about 60.
This happened to me only 5 hours ago here in Germany (near Freiburg, Ehrenstetten to Gütighofen). The road was very wide, no other car, but this crazy driver drives super close to me just to scare me off the road towards bike lane that was very muddy since it's spring time and tractors ruin bike lanes.
It's amazing how brave drivers are when they're surrounded by a steel cage equipped with airbags. The disdain that is so violently thrown in cyclists' direction is unworldly at times. I ride, but I literally hope my next ride isn't my last.
This and worse happens every day that you ride on the roads in South Africa. I raced for over 40 years now and I cant let my two sons do the same even though they want to as it is far to dangerous here.
dang... i face the same here in the US every day. thats why i have 2 cameras on my bike- in the event of the worst happening, my wife can go after them with video proof. dumba$$ drivers wiling to risk my life instead of hitting the brakes for 4 seconds. @7:40 EX-224-CB wish you could report this incident. Stay safe, looking forward to a great 2024 year
@@bikeman123 it gives you 150m to react, depending on their speed, but those are 10 very valuable seconds, and it makes you ride safer, 'cos you know when someone is approaching behind you, which in real life you cna't always know, depending on the wind, the sound of the motorised vehicle coming from behind etc. it's a big deal, and the only accessory I'd get for my bike nowadays, as I have a bit of everything except that
@@bikeman123 If you install the free MyBikeRadar Traffic data field from GarminIQ, the Garmin RTL515 can display on your Garmin Edge the actual speed of the approaching car. And it also records that speed every second or so, about 10-15 readings per pass, into your ride file. Post-ride it generates a table of showing distance behind you, the car's speed, and your speed. If they're spending by a lot, say 50mph in a 25mph zone, and it's a company vehicle, I sometimes email this to the company: "did you know your driver does this?" If you have video that can be sent too.
In the U.K. riding in pairs is recommended, it creates a shorter pass for vehicles behind. Those saying you should ride single file in country X are saying its ok for cars/lorries to squeeze between oncoming traffic and the handlebar of the cyclist, rather than wait until they can move out and pass at 1.5m.
I understand your point of view, yet only "half agree" with it. As you mentioned, in France (which is the country in which this video was recorded) there is a specific rule that states : cyclists can travel in pair as long as no one is following them, BUT as soon as a faster vehicle is approaching, they have to go back to a single file formation in order to facilitate the overtake. Still, the overtaking vehicle has to leave a 1.5m gap, which the idiot driver in this video didn't do. My point being : drivers might get irritated by cyclists not following the rules of the highway code, as it sends the message that cyclists do not care about other road users, only themselves. That OBVIOUSLY does not justify dangerous overtakes though.
I don't know where you got that from but as a french cycling I can assure you that we have our fare share of idiots in cars. I end up exchanging rather poetic words quite often. It depends on where and when you ride I guess. I'm from the Alps and my main problem is actually not much with cars but rather with motorcycles loudly storming the otherwise quiet mountain roads whenever the weather is good, that can be very annoying in your ears. @@thomasobermuller8848
I would do so but shouldn't it be the job of team jumbo visma to train with camera and send that to the police in term of insurance for their high value team? I would be their insurance, I would put that in the contract 😅
Considering this is high mountains of France, where the tdf is every year practcially considered a national 3 week long holiday, and cycling is an important part of the culture in that part of france, I doubt the police would care about their safe, clear passing@@soloalvarez6868
Had a similar event back in the nineties. Riding a bike on a winding road, a Golf GTI coming towards me overtook a car regardless of me on a mountain bike. His driver side wingmirror came within a fraction of a centimeter of my handlebar. Nice.
I can’t believe this guy, some people have no patience or respect for others. I use to cycle in the U.K. and road rage from drivers towards myself and other cyclists was common place, I now live in the Dordogne in France and drivers here seem to be a lot more respectful to cyclists. There’s also a lot less traffic here than there was in the U.K. so drivers have more opportunity to pass us safely, probably has something to do with them being more patient on the whole.
In Germany is a Law that says that you don´t need to breath the exhaust from Cars, so you are allowed to take over on the RIGHT in front of Traffic lights. Cyclists are the only ones who are allowed. We have actually more rights than a Car Driver....
This happens all the time in the Philippines. While there are bad actors in our cycling community, which I, a bike commuter on an MTB/gravel hybrid, try my best to call out, the bigger assholes are drivers and especially motorcyclists whose need for speed is absolutely insatiable. I'm not even factoring in a majority of motorcyclists not wearing helmets because they are just riding it across their neighbourhoods.
Unimaginable that pros would choose to train in an area with that much traffic. Too many places on Earth perfect for road cycling filled with beauty and no cars!
I moved from California to Italy 2 1/2 years ago and I’ve been absolutely amazed at the ignorance on the road. It’s the most dangerous environment I’ve ever ridden my bike in. Italians either love or hate cyclists… They love watching them on TV but don’t get in front of them when they’re driving. Also I think it’s important to point out that when you ride two and three abreast and you’re slowing down the flow of traffic it’s inconsiderate for cyclists and that does foster some of the rage for the people behind the wheel. I occasionally ride in a group in the countryside here in Abruzzo and some of the guys in my group ride two and three abreast and it’s not acceptable.
While it might seem like riding 2 abreast is inconsiderate and slows traffic down, it's much safer for cyclists as it prevents cars from trying to squeeze by the group without changing lanes. It also makes the pass manoeuvre much quicker. Imagine how long it would take to pass a single file line of 10 cyclists, vs a 2x5 group of cyclists. Much safer and quicker for everyone involved.
I thought motorists were more sympathetic to cyclists in Europe. In Sydney that is usually 70% of road users, many of whom literally try to clip you. That is why I ride with a camera. The big decision coming when a driver stopped in front of a peloton and reversed into them. No one had a camera and the driver left the seen claiming fear of the actions of the peloton for riding into him. The judge accepted the statement at face value. The cops did not charge him.
People should understand that most roads are built for people, not exclusively for motor vehicles. If someone is ahead of them, they have the right of way, whether it is a car, truck horse and buggy, farm tractor or cyclist. Cars are only impacted a few seconds at a time by cyclists. They need to calm down and realize the road is not theirs to dominate.
Post WWII Pennsylvania had more paved roads then the rest of the states combined. The roads are narrow , often with buildings at the road edge with a homes property boundary corner pins in the center line of the road . One relies on the human element of the drivers
Yes, normal is correct, I was out once on a ride & a Mercedes passed so close , & then the biggest shock was he had a caravan in tow 😮 only inches from my shoulder , so I unclipped my right shoe & kicked the Caravan hard . He stopped & I pulled up , he was confused that he heard a bang 😂 I replied yes that was my foot , really he said I never saw you or your bike !, God help us with Bell ends like this /. Stay safe everyone .
@@Mf19593 I was on a fast ride with bunch of guys cupla yrs back and some clown with a small trailer on back of car wouldn't nice lanes and how we all stayed up I'll never know but it was bloody CLOSE, I just seen a wing mirror next to my leg! we were doing about 25mph at the time
Happens all the time. 19 cars pass you being courteous and driving like normal responsible people. Then 1 car come super close not giving any space! I'm from NZ so not that many cars in the country at the times when I usually ride. Occasionally I am going down a straight road near my place in the middle of the day in good conditions . There are no other cars on the road coming towards me. One car goes past giving me lots of space passing in the other lane which I always appreciate. The next buzzes me missing me by inches! Hard to understand! As they basically have the whole roads to themselves. Just weird :(
@@thierrymathy6293it’s the opposite for me. Typically the more expensive the car, the more space and caution they give me. The junkier the car, the more aggressive they are to cyclists. The only time I’ve ever had negative experiences on the road were with a beat up old pickup truck and a little compact Honda.
Shocked here reading all the coments...This is quite comon in Brazil and thought that was not comon in european countries...Lived there for 10 years in the 90s and was very nice at the time...Thinking here things are getting worse everywhere?!
There's always one. I ride in Cape Town and 99% of drivers are cool (even as we see in this video)....and then you get one guy or gal who is having a bad day and they take it out on the easy target. What I was more shocked about is the terrible condition of the roads.
I used to road race and spent more hours than I can count on the roads, but the advent of text messaging changed everything. I think it's far too dangerous to share the road with cars now, and that's why I've switched to gravel.
Bahahahahahah here in Australia that's what us cyclists call a beep of encouragement , ive had a shiela lean right out of the car and throw a nappy at me and thats not the worse just the most disgusting
After 3 hair-raising close encounters with 4-wheeled psychopaths (one swerved and tried to put me off the bike; one brake checked me for 100s of yards; one lorry driver overtaking had to cut back and nearly had me killed; i could have reached out and touched one of the logs he was carrying), my wife noticed something wrong and bought me a Kickr. I now cycle indoors for 10 hours a week, safe as houses. I do miss the road, especially on lovely warm days; watching a screen on a trainer with the garage door open is no substitute for the open road, but i know that when i climb onto my bike that i won't be run down and killed by a nutter when i do the sport that i love.
@@charlesmiv3842 As far as i'm concerned, i'm winning. I get on my bike in the garage for 90 minutes in the knowledge that i can get off it and walk away whenever i want. I take your point though, i do miss it, but when it happened i was 60; there's still a lot i want to do/see without ending up in a ditch. ;))
I stopped being bullied when I bike. I'm very respectful of traffic and take as little space on the road as possible, I don't take shit from anyone. There is a truck driver who probably still has a scar that looks like the teeth of a chainring on his face from 20 years ago.
@@freenationalI thought main interest is in Power when someone push intervals) OK, will try to add numbers on all videos where its possible) Main problem is when I have many short videos and not a long one, -its almost impossible to sync GPS data with each video... can take really a loooot of time
Not sure what the rules are in Europe but in Canada the cyclists must single up to let the cars through in a situation like this. Not saying what the driver did was right, Just that sometimes cyclists need to single up to let faster traffic through. If not the result is triggered drivers and you don't want to get in a fight with a car when your on a bike. Glad no one got hurt.
Been hit by cars twice…but have almost been hit a bunch of times by people who were purposely trying to make a point…when almost always I was not a car lane and few feet away from the white line…there are unfortunately many drivers who just don’t like cyclists…I’m sure there is a dna test
Australia here , I also have been hit twice , once I had a nappy thrown at me , another time a full can of Coca-Cola , it was a girl that threw the nappy,, only in Australia bogan capital of the world 😢
Yea Australians are ugly on the road indeed, I also experienced that for a year. And some truck drivers are completely nuts, even when dealing with cars. Too dangerous to ride on the road. But unfortunately, as you can see, it s pretty much like that everywhere with some rare exceptions Belgium (north at least) is incredible. Every time I am there I am totally stunned by the tolerance and respect you get as a cyclist from most ppl (it s crazy, sometimes it seems like they don’t wanna overtake you)
Van como los dueños del cortijo... Adelantan donde no deben y como no deben ... Luego vemos atropellos y muchos de ellos con los ciclistas siendo los infractores .
The world has become more dangerous for road cyclist, over the last two years. It's so much safer off road. The cycling club that I was once a member of. Have of late lost too many club member. To being hit and killed by driver.
I've been stopped by the police in France for riding 2 abreast, so I assume that it is prohibited there. I didn't check properly afterwards. There's still no justification for close passes though.
it is the duty of driving schools to make drivers aware that cyclists are part of the traffic and are unprotected and vulnerable. Today everyone interprets the laws in their own way and thinks they are smart
And yet in other countries riding like that is encouraged - it forces cars to treat you with same regard as other vehicles. If you hug the side of the road they all want to squeeze past, placing you in even greater danger. Drivers just need to slow the f-k down!! A few seconds out of your day means NOTHING compared to endangering the lives of others.
Yeah. It seems riding in pairs should be safer. But in Poland drivers are angry when you do that, and they drive even closer to you, and it becomes even more dangerous... That's why I always look for traffic-free routes... This is the only hope. @@greghart6310
Well I was expecting something horrendous, if anyone thinks this was bad then never risk riding on UK Roads, I see and am subjected to far worse than that on every ride and sometimes several times on every ride, it is impossible to go fir a bike ride and mind one’s own business without being subjected to some kind assault from a Motorist, simply put “Motorists hate cyclists” and the law does nothing about it 🤷♂️
I'm a cyclist myself, but it's funny how they complain about bad drivers. At 34 seconds into this video the cyclist do an dangerous overtake, then later on at the roundabout about none of them even hand signal to indicate they are exiting the roundabout. You can't complain about others not keeping to rules of the road if you don't abide by them too!!!!!
I fully agree with you that the riders in training must also ride carefully and respect the rules. But that is not a justification for tolerating the driver's behavior. The rule is always to show respect for the weaker driver. If a pedestrian is not behaving properly, that does not give me the right to endanger him.
The 0:34 overtake wasn’t a dangerous overtake; the cars in front stood in line and some rode very slow. They couldn’t pass right side as it was blocked by a car. I don’t think there’s a law against this, not in my country. Being higher on a bike you can see much better than dashcam low on the bars. If it was the other way round (cars overtaking cyclists) everybody would have thought it’s a normal thing to do. This overtake wasn’t doing anything dangerous to the cars/people being overtaken. The mercedes rider overtaking the cyclists ofcourse was, compare his ‘move’ to the other cars overtaking the cyclists. And then the honking.. (a €250 fine in my country); this difference in people being in real danger is what counts.
