🤔 The REAL reason for Honda's F1 U-turn 

A new CEO also affects the decision

They got a CEO who didnt wanted f1 and the new CEO got things back to f1. Thats the real reason.

“If Honda does not race, there is no Honda.” Soichiro Honda.

They flipped a coin, that's how Honda usually makes F1 decisions..

Aston Martin: Look at me. *I* am the _Red Bull_ now.

Honda's founder said that if Honda doesn't race, there is no Honda. I was surprirsed they left in the first place.

“We think money is the real reason” Answer to every question in the last 200 years

Honda's commitment to F1 is questionable. They've come and gone more times than I've had hot dinners.

The strategy worked. Exit on a bad deal. Come back for a better deal

The whole thing is insane. Honda never should have “left” Red Bull and this RBPT shop in Milton Keynes never would have been created and Ford would not be coming aboard RBR as a sponsor. Because that’s all Ford is really doing. Just slapping their name on an evolution of a Honda/RBPT engine. Honda and Red Bull/Newey were a match made in heaven. I can guarantee you, Lawrence is going to throw insane money to try and get Newey to join Aston for 2026 or 2027. Newey re upped with Red Bull on a new contract, but I doubt it’s for more than three or so years on the contract. It hasn’t been published how long his new Red Bull deal is.

The indecision drives me crazy

Honda gave mclaren $100 million a year + free engines and yet mclaren didn’t give them shit. They were like yeah develop your engine around OUR car instead of the other way around like with Toro Rosso in 2018

“We think money is the real reason” impossible

Gp1 engine Gp1, yeahhhh

Honda’s engines are one of the best build engines used in the F1 sport and in the automotive industry 💯

Money is usually the answer

If they make a good engine fire Aston Martin im happy. But i am not listening to anything they say anymore 😂 It doesn’t make sense ever

Honda dropping from F1 is in itself a form of propaganda. These guys are clever.

The fact that the EV-hype is a bit behind us now helps a little too.

The primary reason for Honda's return to F1 was that its major shareholders severely criticized Honda for withdrawing from F1 at the shareholders meeting in February 2021. Because of this, President Hachigo was also replaced by Mibe.

For ones clicking big deal together - it all started with VW dieselgate - it opened gates for "massive" EV direction aim ("to clear dirty image") that also forced rivals to change direction massively. Things have changed a bit since that as ICE got "re-spawn" for future editions (syntetic fuel and such) that allow big companies to re-invest into this field, including engines for top-tier racing category.

They already have a good 1.6l V6, it just needs adaptation to the new regulations, this saves massively on design costs.

“Corporate noise” 😂

I’m just afraid that switching to Honda will set progress back. I mean that Mercedes engine is nothing if not reliable, and Aston seems to have figured out the rest of the car better than Mercedes themselves!

Honda is the one who changed direction. They are moving away from full electric vehicles. The future is still ICE, and Japan isnt bowing to American mandates.

I still dont het wec ,lmp1 and hypercar . Which is which?

Didn't honda pyll out of f1 back in 08 09, i worked there at the time and remembering something like that

Rice with roast beef, strange bedfellows.

I think honda is trying to sell more engines to the f1 scene cause doesnt merc manufacture the most for the other companies competing?

Honda has also avoided the development bans insituted by F1 by rebadging there motors as RedBulls. This allowes them unlimited development until there return.

Of course it’s about money, 99% of decisions around F1 are purely based on money. In fact most professional sports!

Free engines AND paying McLaren is wild.

now lets see if RB is better with Ford's in the next few years..

Honda changed management that’s why

They left because of nsx development, they left because of civic development, they left because they want to experiment it

it's the genius of Lawrence he can make Tottenham a trophy winning club

The Ex ceo made a wrong decision to pull out ..

Honda is flakey. They will be wanting to leave again as soon as the books are balanced. They found a big spending cash cow.

Muh Carbon Neutrality 🤦‍♂️

It’s all about money in F1 and automotive business. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday etc

Or it could be that the future development of hybrid cars is concerning Honda from a manufacturer in a competing series and the bigger picture is NOT F1,,, but Toyota in WEC!

They won't tell you these in the tabloids and newspapers.But the real reason why Honda initially pulled out of the F1 2 and half years ago ws the reason that more..

just need Jaguar, Toyota, Ford, BMW, Lotus to come back then. Or new ones, Kia, Sangyong, Dacia, Rolls Royce, Scania, ISUZU

Honda every day until the day I die. And it will continue when I am long and gone. "Power of dreams"

Also a lot more people watching F1 so more eyes on the brand so the investment is worth more through advertising

Isn't everything about money

Why iffy it’s also understandable.

El plan

No it’s because Red Bull taste horrible 8usd for 4 cans I’d rather buy 4 cans of coke imported from Mexico. Real sugar, smooth taste, and it’s 7usd not 8

Alonso: “GP2 engine … GP2”

Does Aston have to take Yuki too?

It's a pity that the cooperation with Redbull stops. I find the combination Max Verstappen - Redbull - Honda unbeatable 😊

They will never be like RB unless they hire Newey

What exactly is about F1 engines is sustainable?

yea we knew the original decision was horsebung when they decided to pull out F1 and not out of Indy.... as if indycar was any more sustainably friendly.

Honda spending less money, that'll work out great...

it is really bcoz of the change in the car industry... soon petrol and diesel will be no more, Honda is just trying to get money for their research for the ev thingy ... they are still a business

They'll have more than emissions to worry about when people quit watching the sport due to the ev pushing

makes you wonder why AMR would drop Mercedes as an engine supplier if everything is as amazing as Merc's management is portraying it as being

Bring back benson and hedges paint scheme

It was a matter of time before they returned lol

Not like f1 plans have fallen through before or anything

Better to stay in than quit and return later.

So who is red bull gonna get they're engine's from?

Japanese motor manufacturers were in the gun for going broke with the advent of serious EV manufacturing happening. The Greenies were Leaning hard on fossil fuel cars so Honda decided to leave. That hit their advertising influence badly so getting back into F1 albeit in a cheaper position puts their name back into the field of performance. Being smaller than Toyota they need the exposure of motorsports … in a way they have taken a lifeline and got back into F1 ….

Financial sustainability > Environmental sustainability

Free engines and ur given 100 million dollars 😳😳😳😳😳

I sense GP2 Engine...

Its goung home

F1's U-turn master.

But why not continue the relationship with red bull again?

If there is no race then there will no Honda.. Honda known for high rev engine 😂😂

So are we gonna see a Valkyrie with Vtec? 😂

That name on the screen will have the ...

ah yess GP1 engine !!!

F1 is growing exponentially. All about MONEY

Corpo overlord gotta say things that make them look good if the truth stinks in any way. That is their way.

Money? No way 😂

HRC

Red Bull is RICH AS FUGG - THEY SHOULD PAY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ it's simple

Honda has always had the worst timimg in this sport. When they left, it was not different

So they can cry and redbulls also threaten f1 to leave the sport if teams do not agree for engine freeze

Remember aston dropped RedBull Now Honda is dropping RedBull 😂😂😂😂😂

I ve read the comments, and something appear to be in the blind side of some: maybe it is because RBR is a f****** pain in the a**. That dried the patience of all the engine manufacturer it ever had

So it’s about money?

Honda byk belajar dgn pmx cara² nk u turn.. wkwkwkwkwk

Well it’s probably also something to do with Christian Horner and Helmet Marko complaining all those years when they weren’t winning. And when they did it was all due to the driver and no recognition of the entire package.

AM has a very long way to go to become a works team. Not sure Lawrence has that much money or patience.

Honda's engines for Mclaren were pathetic!

Is. Not true

So in f1 26 my team their will be 5 engines suppliers instead of 4 😂

Netflix show.

Supa max fans in denial

Honda do you want to stay in f1 or don’t stay in f1?

redbull was toxic, they got out, now they are back to defend their honor

If you can't make money off of a Red Bull right now, you really just shouldn't be here.

When daddy is paying the bills money is no object and he wants his boy to win races and possibly a championship no matter the cost! What’s a few millions when you have billions!

Confused bunch

Ferrari had a better engine than Red Bull when they ran Honda. 🤣 Also, McLaren has been shite for a while running their engines. Hopefully, whoever at Honda got them wrapped up paying for the clown show at McLaren lost their job.

Hmmm, I’m assuming Alonso will not drive for Aston Martin in 2026 any longer😉