0005 Check your old disks for contamination before you use them

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Welcome to SMMC 0005! In this episode, let's talk about old floppy disks and how check them for problems before sticking them into your disk drive.
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@moxiesmotel 2 года назад

Adrian, please stop listening to the few whining comments. 99% of us love what you do, regardless of the length of the video. The silent majority loves you as you are

@tstahlfsu 2 года назад

100000000000% this!

@RetroTechToys 2 года назад

Completely agree!

@TobyDeshane 2 года назад

Important that you're enjoying yourself, as a creator, first. Every choice you make will have detractors, so you might as well be happy. 😎🥃

@EzeePosseTV 2 года назад

I totally agree with the OP.

@jonnycando 2 года назад

@@EzeePosseTV Likewise….a pox on the short attention span crowd!

@scottmarquette2528 2 года назад

IBM ACIS was the ACademic Information Systems Division that was set up to target IBM PCs into the Higher Education market to compete with Apple and DEC.

@RandyDarkshade2 2 года назад

One big difference between the good discs and the bad discs is, all the good discs have been stored in their sleeves whereas all the bad discs bar 1 were not stored in their sleeves.I'd say that has had a huge effect on the condition of the discs.

@bionicgeekgrrl 2 года назад

Certainly helps keep dirt out of the drive surface and depending upon what that dirt is and how it is stored will determine if they will survive.

@ultrametric9317 2 года назад

Adrian, the videos are never too long. Now that the candy is discussed elsewhere :)

@andrasszabo7386 2 года назад

In his stomach maybe :)

@RionRedemp83 2 года назад

I agree never too long 😉

@johns.7609 2 года назад

Tik tok generation cant pay attention for more than 60 seconds.

@RionRedemp83 2 года назад

@@johns.7609 🤣

@squirlmy 2 года назад

I kinda liked the candy reviews, when it was 30 seconds or less, anyways. It just got out of control!

@Salmonaxe223 2 года назад

I come for your long videos as they are very cathartic. Your in depth nature is what makes you and your videos so pleasant to listen to and watch. Please keep making long videos.

@Megatog615 2 года назад

"Lifetime Warranty" usually means "lifetime of the product" and that is arbitrary and up to the manufacturer.

@ovalteen4404 2 года назад

Plus, even the best magnetic media has only a few decades of "life". Well, certainly in relation to holding their last recorded data that is. But chances are, these are past their "life".

@wimwiddershins 2 года назад

I called the Nashua customer service back in the day, that's pretty much what the guy said. Yay for marketing.

@squirlmy 2 года назад

In other words, it means nothing at all? Maybe if you had a source for that, maybe some historic case ruling? Because otherwise "lifetime of product" is even too much interpretation. Maybe it does have legal meaning, but if it doesn't, just say "lifetime warranty" means nothing at all.

@BilisNegra 2 года назад

Who in their right mind would think it means something like forever as long as the company exists? Obviously, you can't expect a replacement for a type of product that isn't being produced anymore, especially products that are not made up of different parts. I mean, an obsolete storage format is not the same as some spare part for a discontinued car model.

@vintagepc64 2 года назад

If you read the warranty fine print, the "lifetime" is usually considered to be the sales & service life of the product, i.e. as long as they continue to actively manufacture/sell/support the product. Of course, that's very easy to get out of, just release a new version of the product every year with a slightly different colour...

@francoisrevol7926 2 года назад

It's also possible the paper sleeves act as a buffer for humidity, absorbing it instead of having it stick on the surface.

@LeftoverBeefcake 2 года назад

IIRC many of the quality disk sleeves are made from Tyvek which we use in the U.S. to wrap houses with, which usually repels humidity, etc.

@kenkobra 2 года назад

Why would someone complain about the length of the video? I could understand if he just talked about nothing but you are getting great content for free from Adrian!

@matth7997 2 года назад

Please ignore whiners about video length, the depth of your videos is what separates them from the lowest attention span targeting of most of the junk on RU-vid.

@mikewifak 2 года назад

Too long? People are complaining about too much excellent free entertainment? I think I want off the Earth.

@BertGrink 2 года назад

I have a better idea: let´s send the whiny people off Earth instead, and you, me, and all the other connoisseurs of the long videos get to stay here. J/K ;)

@karldavies2954 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more with the others here, I much prefer the long(er) episodes, more variety = more of my attention. Keep up the great work as always. Karl UK.

@BertGrink 2 года назад

I would like to go on record as one of the viewers that always enjoy the long mail call videos. Thank You.

@MrTmwilliamson 2 года назад

I don't care ow long the videos are, if I have to, I will watch them in two or more sessions.

@thicclink 2 года назад

Agreed, and I often do watch in multiple sessions but i always make the time

@stathissim 2 года назад

me also

@jubsy 2 года назад

I've very gently cleaned moldy spots from original game diskettes with a cotton swap and IPA. Takes a long time but most tested working afterwards (though I was compelled to clean the drive heads too after). That said, I gave up on a huge stash of floppies I found on Craigslist once when I discovered they were moldy. Your videos are perfect. Entertaining and VERY helpful. Don't change a thing.

@hardlyworgen71 2 года назад

I notice every "good" disk had been kept in a sleeve.

@N0zer0 2 года назад

My theory is that the disks developed mold because of the plastic bag and the one having sleeves were protected.

@tomdesrochers2481 2 года назад

@@N0zer0 Makes sense. One of those "Do not eat" moisture drying packets would have been a good idea.

@DeviatingVapors 2 года назад

exactly / I would expect any disc that was sleeveless would be a write off, but mold .. I’m glad this is mentioned, not many would think to check before it is too late / I was very surprised that decade after decade my Apple //e floppies - all still work, games, spreadsheets. that impressed me the magnetism was retained that long / hopefully others experience that too / wonder what caused the super stuck disc issue, but all the sleeveless ones were obviously not loved right / will be sparking up my old system soon, has been off since 2014, but the monitor is on display since 2018 to remind me I need to explore that magic again

@Renville80 2 года назад

You do you, Adrian. Some people aren’t happy unless they are sharing their inherent misery with others. Before you pitch the moldy oldies, what of scanning the labels so if someone wanted to print some for nostalgia’s sake… but seeing the mold makes me glad I had the presence of mind to transfer all the disks I wanted to keep to a hard drive and backups.

@Artiken1 2 года назад

Trick:An easier way to examine the surface of the disk. Put two fingers (left hand) in the hub ring, spin the shell with single finger (right hand) on corner. It was shown to me by Mike J. Henry. That was how he discovered the laser burn protection. He was looking for a hole punched into the disk.

@neverthehero566 2 года назад

I love all the videos... you are doing an excellent job. One of my favorite channels.

@MichaelKathke 2 года назад

I recently refurbished and set up my old c64 (ASSY 250407) and the 1541(ALPS) from 1983. All (!) my 90+ Disks worked perfect after 30+ Years stored in the original paper sleeves in the original cardboard boxes. The C64 and the disks are always stored in a cupboard at around 20..28 degree celsius. No direkt sunlight etc. The disks are from different brands and even nonames. I am very impressed and happy to have a look back to my old source code!

@MichaelKathke 2 года назад

I would not recommend storing plastic items in plastic bags/boxes for several years. The bags could evaporate plasticizers that harm the items in it. And I would'nt mix different kind of plastic in a closed container. I really think paper or cardboard in a dry environment helps a lot to keep some harmfull chemicals away from delicate plastics. IMHO

@chrisduda1974rr 2 года назад

I enjoy all of your videos, the longer the better in my opinion. you have great content!

@lukehindman4498 2 года назад

I enjoy the mini format. I didn't expect mini to mean short, just less detailed

@ABED339 2 года назад

I always enjoy your videos regardless of the length, but honestly for me the longer the video the happier I am

@The1RandomFool 2 года назад

I like the long videos, especially the troubleshooting videos. It's like telling a story.

@JasonOfOconomowoc 2 года назад

Hi! Preservationist / archivist here. For moldy disks, I remove them from the jacket, give them a alcohol bath, place them in a donor jacket, and rip the data for archival. Next stop: the trash. Frankly, I think you're pretty brave to keep even the ones that tested good. I have found that mold spreads. While those disks might test good NOW, there's no telling if there is a patch in the inside corner of the disk, infesting the Mylar or cotton in the jacket away from the emulsion. Again, for now. It doesn't sound like you're hurting for disks, so I suggest that you send the disks that tested OK to the bin as well. It just seems like an unnecessary risk keeping them around. Cheers!

@brianv2871 2 года назад

To be fair, all disks will be bad soon.. not just from the mold risk. While it might be risky to to use potentially contaminated disks and speed the process of other disks, i'm just wondering what the timeline is left for even the most optimally kept disks.

@_nc513_ 2 года назад

@Jon S. Yes! Thanks for mentioning preservation in this context.

@leeshepherd6512 2 года назад

I’m always disappointed when your videos are short. The more Adrian the better as far as I’m concerned.

@bionicgeekgrrl 2 года назад

Firstly keep doing what you're doing, I love your videos how they are. Secondly, seeing so many bad discs reminded me of the collection of amiga and St discs I had that were all good and tested ok etc. Unfortunately just before the pandemic hit my upstairs neighbour had a leak from his boiler and it was not spotted for a while, allowing the water to drain into the gap between the floors, which has a lot of sand in as a noise deadening and fire break material (they're old flats built in the 60s), which then brought the ceiling down in my storage room, where I had a large amount of items stored whilst tidying another area of the flat. All of the wet sand and ceiling material dumped on the collection of discs, tapes and magazines. Thankfully not all the magazines were soaked, but the tapes and the discs were damaged beyond use, even if I had felt I could have cleaned them I never would have trusted them to use in a drive again. About a month ago my neighbour had a leak from his bath... Thankfully as it is a housing association property I didn't have to worry about cleaning up the mess or repairing the ceiling, but the bath leak has put my wetroom bathroom out of commission for a good few weeks yet. I will be moving fairly soon mind, so hopefully will have no further problems like that!

@corvus00 2 года назад

These SMMCs are perfect.

@afkbehr 2 года назад

i love it! super mini mail call, great name!

@organiccold 2 года назад

We love the long videos... We can't get enough of you. Haha

@geofftottenperthcoys9944 2 года назад

I love the length (lol) of your vids, very informative and just outright great! Hello from West Australia!

@patrickdeunhouwer5926 2 года назад

for me video's are not too long and can always pause them and continue watching the next time ( so you don't have too rush it just take your time to look through items, do it the way you like there are always people commenting no matter what way you do it).....

@RetroTechToys 2 года назад

My advice is to do what you feel is best for your channel. I personally love your content, I have no problem with the length of videos, and I love that you upload often. Cheers!

@Epictronics1 2 года назад

I was looking for something like FormatQM, thanks Adrian :)

@richardkelsch3640 2 года назад

Unless you live in a dry climate, you can count on mold accumulating on a 5 1/4 inch disk surface. Storing them in a sealed container with a few packets of Silica Gel, will prevent moisture and mold damage.

@adriansdigitalbasement2 2 года назад

Yep! Probably a really good idea -- and indoors where it's climate controlled will help.

@_nc513_ 2 года назад

@@adriansdigitalbasement2 When I encounter a dirty or stuck disk, I say CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. :) On any random disk, there might be some interesting data that should be preserved. After the data has been preserved, contaminated disks should of course be discarded. For used disks in good condition, I first preserve the data and only then reformat them for my own daily use, or simply just sell them to the next owner.

@Nukle0n 2 года назад

LGR showed some 3D printed disk holders with littled 3D printed wheels you could use to spin the disk to inspect ( and maybe clean them)

@CommodoreGreg 2 года назад

This is a great ad for disk sleeves!

@sebastianbort8512 2 года назад

Videos length are always good

@koosh3d Год назад

Babbages! Omg that brings back memories. Used to work at Babbages as a teen in the late 80s and Radio Shack as well. Loved getting a sneak peak at all the new games for my apple iie and iigs, the clunky Compaq portables and giant cell phones. Appreciate your content, Adrian, and the memories. Wish I still had those machines. 😊

@Mr_Meowingtons 2 года назад

i took an old FDD and turned it in to a disk cleaner for old disks like this.. 2 wide felt cleaners i can change out and clean. just put some cleaner on them and let it run for a few mins ..

@Jimbaloidatron 2 года назад

Neat idea, I'll be keeping that in mind.

@tuffthegamer 2 года назад

Love your videos. Don't listen to the haters. You will never be able to please them. Everyone else can see how much you enjoy this content and thats what makes us come back, because we enjoy it as well. Keep up the great work and appreciate your expended energies into making all this great content.

@isaacposselt7089 2 года назад

I really like how you explain electronics and old tech I've learned alot from your videos. Although there are many of your old videos I'd like to see, and it's hard to search for the old ones because youtube has no way of searching for old videos or should I say originals!

@Hollaendaren 2 года назад

+1 for the longer videos here! Keep them coming :)

@TheSudsy 2 года назад

Bloody Hell Adrian - stick to what you do, and what you want to do. Its good enough for 25 thousand + other people. You can't please ALL the people ALL of the time.

@Dukefazon 2 года назад

totally! he might not have as much subs as he deserves but he shouldn't start chasing subs by trying to please every complaint.

@DA-mu5zi 2 года назад

I would watch your videos regardless of length. Dont listen to hate, just do your thing! Love the videos as always!

@darkwinter6028 2 года назад

I’ve heard that the thing about single sided disks is that single sided drives had no standardization on which side the disk they actually used… so the manufacturers of the disks had to actually make double sided disks, error-checked on both sides, to ensure compatibility with the range of drives out there.

@DeviatingVapors 2 года назад

possibly, yeah. but not the reason. cost. two heads cost double. seems like nothing, but making the 2nd side good/same . ain’t trivial. every aspect has to be considered. at some point the market pressure and progress made advances and dual sided became the norm for the blanks, but for the drives .. I didn’t know barely anyone that had a double sided drive (1983-86 era), we were punching a hole, and test format both. most good[er] brands would be error free on both sides, but cheaper disks .. always had worse success rates. Memorex, Dysan, Fuji, Verbatim all were way better in every way. fit. finish. sound. labels. sleeves. boxes. if you cheaped out, you got crap, and regretted it. Fuji .. they made probably the best and nicest stuff for a reasonable cost in discs, and tapes .. cassette, Hi8 ... for years. I was paying 3 or 3.50 vs 5.00 per floppy (buying them in boxes of 10 at a time) in Canada anyhow. Certified Data .. were okay, but noisier when they spun, as every aspect of the materials + construction were thinner, inferior. ripping them apart, seeing the materials that kept the layers apart and could keep the odd stray bits of environmental particles off the media .. it was very apparent that you always get what you pay for. I was broke, but always got the best media I could get my hands on. saving a few cents .. and losing data just seems dumb.

@johnhammond3482 2 года назад

i enjoy the long videos. thank you

@dhpbear2 2 года назад

0:34 - May I suggest adding 'markers' or whatever they're called in RU-vid-ese! :) I've noticed several RU-vidrs doing this, Techmoan and EEVBlog for starters. Keep up the content! To me, your videos can NEVER be 'loo long'!

@Waccoon 2 года назад

I hate that floppy disks have a reputation for poor reliability. Old floppies are exceptionally reliable if they've been stored properly. I have thousands of disks from the 80's and practically all still work flawlessly. The first disk I ever bought with my own money is a green 3.5" disk for my Amiga 1000. I used the heck out of it and it's still error free. I'd trust an 80's floppy over a USB flash any day. Well, except for the bulk packs from the 2000's. Manufacturing standards really dropped off when floppies were being phased out, so the newer the disk, the less likely it is to work. I have tons of sealed NOS disks from Micro Networks and about a third are bad out of the box.

@the_kombinator 2 года назад

I have 3.5 inch DD disks which were at one point drilled out and force-formatted to 1.44MB. They currently (since 1995) have Windows 3.0 on them, and last time I used them (6 months ago?) they all work properly, at least for a typical installation. I am noticing some failure rates within the last 3-5 years, nothing alarming though.

@misteragony 2 года назад

The longer your videos the better!

@williampz 2 года назад

I enjoy your videos that are 30mins or longer. Keep doing a great job helping everyone relive their youth. Awesome job

@afloyd4976 2 года назад

I would still clean the mold off the surface and attempt to use them. It's nothing to clean the drive head. It's another matter if it holds important data. SpartaDOS on the Atari 8-bit can format and use disks with bad tracks. I don't have to lay down 40 tracks if there are any bad sectors after track 35 - SpartaDOS can format 35 tracks instead. ☺

@Dee_Just_Dee 2 года назад

I love these Second Channel vids! I don't know how you do it and I don't want to jinx it!

@julianbarron5293 2 года назад

I like the longer videos!

@maikelpeeters7328 2 года назад

the long videos are better! for the ones who dont like it skip the videos! i like your longer videos Adrian...keep it going i like your videos a lot

@Evergreen64 2 года назад

Speaking about cleaning. One of the first jobs I had we had an IBM mainframe and a DEC PDP-11 which used RL02 and RK05 disks. They had a company that would come in every once in a while to actually physically clean the disks. Take them out of the big holder packs and clean them off and put them back.

@Ruskaga 2 года назад

Remember the Verbatim disks that were Teflon-coated? They had a tan appearance from the coating, and their ads would show the disks covered with coffee, jelly from doughnuts, and all sorts of things and they claimed that the data could still be recovered. I had a ton of those.

@SOU6900 2 года назад

So I got old 2 ATX PSUs from when PSUs were high on 3.3V and 5V rail amps as well as 12V rail amps that are both worn out. They'll turn on my psu tester, but they won't run any system I put them in so I'm wondering if the caps are shot. Think they're worth possibly recapping and keeping around for retro systems, or should I just junk them?

@jhpyle2 2 года назад

The longer the video, the better!

@retropcdurham 2 года назад

Remember to inspect and clean your disks regularly

@Bianchi77 2 года назад

Nice video, thanks :)

@randymoyer5351 2 года назад

I say i like the Longer videos better, as more topics and things to cover, i say keep both long and short videos, as there really isn't Much on any more, so keep them comming.

@DavidWonn 2 года назад

I watch nearly everything on YT at double speed, so no worries on length.

@williefleete 2 года назад

Is there a way to tell if a 5.25 floppy drive is an HD or DD on the mechanism or label etc, the two drives I’ve come across seem to read and format 1.2 ok on media that isn’t completely trashed anyway. Either the drives I have are tolerant enough to work with 1.2 meg, I’m lucky (have some HD disks as well) or maybe your drive will work with 1.2meg as well.

@tigheklory 2 года назад

I set these videos to to 2X, works great!

@wrkjr 2 года назад

Kinda neat seeing the Harris logo badge, I spent many years in broadcast engineering (FM Class B) in addition to my primary work in the computing / networking / communications world. I spent many years working with Harris transmitters (great pieces of engineering in my opinion), and they are not defunct, they have rebranded their transmitter business as GatesAir.

@gabrielleeliseo6062 2 года назад

I love the length Adrian. If it’s too long they can change the channel. Patience, my friends…

@JenniferinIllinois 2 года назад

I'm new around these parts but I have no issue with the length of your videos, either too short or too long. 👍

@tim0steele Год назад

Brings back memories of software development in the 80s. The boss insisted on buying Inmac own brand diskettes with a lifetime warranty - the snag was the diskettes were very poor quality and didn't even have a centre reinforcing ring. The failure rate was awful. I think he sent a few back but they were obviously gambling on customers not returning enough diskettes to wipe out their profit.

@BG101UK 2 года назад

Is it possible to clean the mould off to read the disk contents?

@ford1546 2 года назад

Hello. You are for me number one retro computer channel on youtube. love watching both of your channels. Channel number 2 is too similar to channel number 1. (Mini Mini Mail Cal) should be called something else! often they are not short. but I love them. But i also love to see when you are trying to repair a computer or computer related stuff.

@00Skyfox 2 года назад

I still have a Babbage's mouse pad for my C64. Anyway, earlier this year I started going through my C64 backup disks to check and make sure they were still good, and I found several disks with mold on them. My own fault because I had them in the basement of my old house, and there was a bit of a moisture problem at that location. Even things in the upstairs closets had mold, so it's no surprise some of the floppy disks in the basement did, too.

@MaidenAriana 2 года назад

When you started cutting the stuck disc open, I was like.. do we reeeaaallly want to see what is inside of that particular one? :)

@stevethepocket 2 года назад

21:04 OK, so have PC drives _always_ been able to automatically detect when there's a disk in them? Because if so, it's kind of insane that Windows has never supported that. Did Commodore get some kind of patent on the concept when they made the Amiga?

@nickwallette6201 2 года назад

There are ways, and apparently Windows 95 was going to do this. But, IIRC, there were two common detection mechanisms that worked on PC drives, and they were mutually exclusive so you had to know which worked. Rather than force the user to configure it (which would often mean it didn’t get configured correctly) or go through a “training” phase, they just yanked the feature. Some drives (not PC drives) had actual legit insert detection. The PC method was a bit of a hack. It just wasn’t baked in as a reliable feature. I think what the format tool in this video does is continually access the drive and just ignore “drive not ready” errors. That’s not a reasonable approach for general purpose insert notification, but works well enough for a special purpose tool like this.

@slpkenney 2 года назад

If I'm suppose to use a 360k drive to format how can I easily identify what type of drives I have? I've never been able to find any good advice on the interent.

@brianv2871 2 года назад

I'm not sure how to tell 1.2 drive from 360k drive except after having a bunch you start to notice the difference production wise. What I usually just do is look up the make and model on the internet and you can almost always find reference to the drive type. Maybe others have a better answer though.

@jabbawok944 2 года назад

The length always leaves me satisfied.

@bdwilcox 2 года назад

That's what she said.

@horusfalcon 2 года назад

Your channel, your rules. No worries here. Your video content is always informative and helpful to other retro enthusiasts, so keep on keepin' on.

@fumthings 2 года назад

people can playback videos at 2x if it really bothers them. you are doing just fine Adrian.

@smoejith9283 2 года назад

Oh yeah, remember visiting a Babbages back in the day! Can't remember the city right now though..

@bdwilcox 2 года назад

Michael Orange is the new Adrian Black.

@fumthings 2 года назад

i would like to report this video length as A OK. please continue just as you are.

@bluebirdpod 2 года назад

I had this problem with Apple 2gs games I bought from the east coast, moldy disks, cleaned all but one and they all work, but these were originals of the Kings Quest Series for the GS on 3.5 disks. bummer Kq2-GS had one borked disk with too much mold after cleaning it wont read. Never had any disks that were being used here in Colorado, even with using a swamp cooler for years and years, never had mold on any disks. But I seen it on Commodore 5.25 disks from the east coast I think those came from Florida. They do clog the heads of the apple 3.5 GS drives, until all the mold is gone from the disks. what a PITA that was. disk clean disk clean, and then found the mold, used a donor drive and removed the heads to make something that could spin the disks I was trying to clean. Worked like a charm.

@krz8888888 2 года назад

Can you provide us with pictures of the mould ? Is it easy to tell ?

@paulstubbs7678 2 года назад

For mounting that Harris badge, try auto mounting tape, used to hold the 'bumper' strips on the side of older cars.

@Tomsonic41 2 года назад

I have been buying boxes of VHS tapes from eBay, and some of them have been significantly moldy. A few were able to be cleaned and recovered, but the worst ones just went straight in the trash - didn't want to risk playing them. Never occurred to me that old floppy disks could suffer from similar issues!

@kevodowd5282 2 года назад

I have a shoebox full of Atari 8bit disks which have been in the attic for 35 years. Going to take me awhile to go through them!!

@CrystalMcNair 2 года назад

Did you check each disk to perhaps see if there were any software that you could archive before formatting them?

@billfruge25 2 года назад

Any tips on what to look for when checking floppy drive RW head(s) for mould and how to safely remove it? Maybe use IPA?

@cambridgemart2075 2 года назад

The best way to clean R/W heads is with IPA; I prefer to use lint-free wipes, but that requires the drive to be opened so you can get good access to the heads. Alternatively, use long stemmed cotton buds (sold for cleaning of scientific optics) to clean them from the front opening.

@thesillyhatday 2 года назад

Bad floppy discs drove me insane working on my Amiga 500. I was aware of the issue, but dirt/mold/degrading wasn't visible on most of the discs. I could not work out what was wrong with my floppy drive. Random read and write errors with no logic to the problems. A proper cleaning of what looked like a clean read head with known working discs and that was it, no more issues. Sometimes I guess the bad discs aren't even visible.

@transcendtient 2 года назад

Damn man that Bit Barn is good stuff.

@sysghost 2 года назад

"lifetime warranty" often means the lifetime of the product, and that is one fuzzy way of saying: "We decide when the warranty isn't applicable"

@squirlmy 2 года назад

That's believable, but what is your source. Is there a federal law, or court cases that established precedent? As I said, its believable and appealing, but are you sure it isn't urban legend or false internet meme?

@sysghost 2 года назад

@@squirlmy As said, it is quite fuzzy. It is my own experience though. When I called up on some equipment that had "Lifetime warranty" that I needed to get replaced due to some original manufacturing fault, I got the response that the product is no longer being supported, and thus its lifetime has ended. Only 8 months old. from the date of purchase. So if you must need a "reference". It's me then. My own experience.

@squirlmy 2 года назад

@@sysghost fair enough. My experience has been that response is so random-seeming, that I don't know if "lifetime of product" really means anything more than "lifetime warranty". Occasionally I'm pleasantly surprised, I'm just trying to figure it out. I just bough a Framework laptop specifically because they aim to repair and upgrade with modular, well labelled components. But I'm still nervous how long they'll stay in business.

@Dukefazon 2 года назад

I didn't check the channel, I thought this is an LGR blurb because I saw a floppy disk and the angular font on the thumbnail and my mind went straight to LGR. I was surprised to hear Adrian instead of Clint :D (by the way, I'm actually watching your videos at least 1.25x speed, when you are showing every side of a boring random box, I'm speeding up to 2.0x speed)

@rangercv4263 2 года назад

Second segment name idea: Mouldy mini- mail call!

@BloodBlight 2 года назад

Have you tried low level formatting using your KryoFlux? I have had a lot of "bad" disks that worked just fine after writing a blank image using my supercard pro!

@georgemaragos2378 2 года назад

Hi, they wont last forever, but kept in a jacket and in a cool dry place helps. Stored in the plastic floppy storage bins, well there is no air circulation To cold you get damp, to hot you get mould - you cant win Same with 3.5's while more protected and not exposed they have a similar issue, but i find the ones with the thin cotton type washer / insulator last better because of the extra physical barrier plus there is a soft layer between the rotating magnetic disk and the hard plastic case Back in the day i had plenty of floppies, but the last of the 5.25's were very cheap and junky, some brand new out of the box would not format or were unreliable, same with the 3.5's In my Amiga and say 486/P1/P2 they would work, then one day read errors. I now have the opinion that the early big brand stock while expensive were well made, the late to market cheap copies were just that - cheap and nasty My son had a set of colored 3.5's in his school days, different color for each school class, i am sure the orange and yellow one got washed in his jeans at least once a month - true story - they were 3M's

@DrakkarCalethiel 2 года назад

I LOVE longer format vids! Still need a name for MMMC? How about Nibble Mini MailCall or just Nibble MailCall?

@dr_jaymz 2 года назад

What does the mould eat? Is it metabolizing the iron?

@zachz96 2 года назад

Or the plastic?

@MrLukealbanese 2 года назад

Too long? Puleeeeze. Long is good. Great video Adrian.

@modulusixt 2 года назад

Do your thing Adrian :) #189! yolo

@joe.tiziano 2 года назад

Adrian, your videos are always too short they are so short I have to watch them twice.

@PaulioBee 2 года назад

Hi Adrian. You worry far too much about the Victor Meldrew types (look him up on RU-vid) who will complain about everything! You'll be forever trying to please that lot. I love your videos and the fact you pace yourself, rather than trying to cram everything into 15 minutes and talking at x2 speed (like so many do on here). If I've ever got too many videos backed up, I'll zip through some bits, but you shouldn't need to change anything.