1 Clement: An Introduction to an Early Christian Letter 

Thanks Oscar. Trying to do my party to help people like you out!

1 Clement was merely a letter. It was not Scripture.

@@davidlafleche1142 right.

David, yes, a fair assessment, he carries the torch from Peter and Paul.

Thanks!

Thanks!

Scott Harrower and I edited a book on the apostolic fathers, I'd start there.

@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 Thank you very much

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

Jordan, start here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_6

@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 Isn't there a project to scan and make the manuscripts and fragments publically available in a one stop shop, because they are expiring. Papyri especially but pergament too? David B Wallace mentioned something like that.

@@CJFCarlsson There are places you can find transcriptions and other places where you can find photographs.

I read it as Christian Era just for fun.

Absolutely - I don’t know why Christians ever use “C.E”. 😊

The creed that was taught within months of the crucifixion and written down within 2-3 years of the crucifixion states that Jesus was the Son of God and there are early writings of the Holy Spirit. The trinity was in place early on.

@@iain5615 Sorry but the 'trinity' is NOT the existance or even the naming of 'Father. Son & Holy Spirit. Jesus said"To baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit". I believe that, of course! But the 'trinity' is specifically that; 'There are three persons on One God' and that God is; "God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit' THATS the 'trinity'! And thats what is NOT in the bible or even in the earliest writings of the church fathers! The Bible is Clear; "There is One God, the FATHER' ( 1 Cor 8:6) "One God and FATHER of all persons" ( Eph 4:6 ) As for the closeness to the crucifixion, what about Peter's inspired speech at Pentecost on 50 DAYS afterwards! No mention of a 'trinity' Only reference to the Father raising his Son. Then a fews day later the disciples praised the FATHER with thr words; "Sovereign Lord, you are the ONE who made the heavan and the earth and the sea and the things in them. And through Holy Spirit said by the mouth of our forfather Daavid you servant....your Holy SERVANT Jesus" Acts 4|:24,27) Thus Jesus disciples viewed Jesus, not as the 'Sovereign Lord, God, but his SERVANT! Thus No trinity for centuries. Please realise this is a manmade doctrine! Not a bible teaching "

@@iain5615 Wrong! Thre were no 'creeds' in writing till at least the middle of the first century! We do have Paul's clear 'creed' at 1 Cor 8:6; "Actually to us there is ONE God the FATHER out of whom all things are and we for him. And one Lord Jesus Christ through whom all things are and we for him". In Fact Paul stated on more than one occasion that There is 'One God and Father. ( Eph 4:6. Just mentioning the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is NOT a definition of thre 'trinity' is it? I believe in the 'Father', I believe in the 'Son' I believe in the Holy Spirit' BUT I do NOT believe they are 'three persons in One God'. Thats the tinity! The word and the definition is not in ANY bible verse and you have to admit it! implication and suggestion are not valid! It is entirely a manmade 'creed' or dagma. This can be easily shown in 'google' articles. I just stick to the Holy bible! Hope you do to my friend! God's blessings

@@kiwihans100 study what scholars state. The experts concur that Cor 1:15 was written down within 3 years of the crucifixion. This is clearly a citation by Paul of an oral tradition that scholars agree was given to Paul when he went to Jerusalem after Damascus.

@@kiwihans100 the Trinity is just a term coined for what was taught in the first century - the father, the son and the holy spirit.

That is because Mary is not exalted to that title or honor by God. God has no mother, He is the creator of all, including Mary. She is not a Queen of heaven. There is no Queen of Heaven. There is only King Jesus.