1 CORVETTE VS 6 FIGHTERS - How effective are corvettes? - Space Engineers 

This is why I bought SE, it’s ability to get ships actively messed up and not just some HP bar decreasing. More like this would be great to watch

As much as everyone focuses on trying to fix survival, I feel that battle simulations are under-utilized outside of Weaponscore competitions. Especially since we have everything needed to do them and even more once the AI grid update is released.

This is a bottomless well of potential content, measuring popular capital ships against popular strike craft. Ideally, there would be several runs, allowing each side to iterate on their tactics. Throw away the first few trials, and count the best of the final 3, 5 or whatever. Lastly, summarize what each side thought was working or not working in terms of both design and tactics.

Really these fighters were never gonna win with just gatlings guns, but would provide a lot more challenge and damage if they were using autocannons. Since the gatling does so little damage against armor.

If some Heavy Fighters with Assault Cannons were attacking the Ressults would quite different, bcs Assault Cannon Shells are able to Damage an Gatling Turret enough that’s it’s unusable after a Singe Hit

This shouldn't be a one off. :) Do more 'lore' stuff, definitely the different classes fighting battles they're meant to fight, and ones that they may be overmatched in.

Love this video, I want more like it! I would love to see a video of a corvette defending against bombers (in my lore bombers are small grids specifically designed for fast strikes on large grids. Typically to soften large grids before the main engagement happens.) Maybe have a corvette guarding a large grid target ship and have the bombers complete strikes against the target?

great idea to test ship classes in a realistic fight, in my mind, the sum of the CPU of the ships involved should be the measure to set up the battles, but the number of players needed to control the ships is also a big factor in faction v faction warfare

I am more of an AA cruiser person then AA Corvette person, this is due to the image of a big ship creating walls of bullets that fighters crash into trying to get to their real targets is pretty cool in my mind.

Nice to see someone putting theory to practice. This just reinforces the fact that a purpose build ship is better than a jack of all trades ship.

Yooooo now this was cool!!!!!! your corvette was fantastic! love the video!

Absolutely love this video format! It gives a really nice view of some combat and gives people a good idea of how things actually play out in game.

Letting you guys know right now, the answer is usually yes. Unless they ram you. If you’re fighting pilots entirely willing to start ramming you, you probably wouldn’t have won anyway.

Here's a challenge= fight squadron of gun fighter. Yes a fighter thats dotted with 10 to 12 assault cannons and basically a flying gun. Now THAT is a worthy enemy! If u say no one autistic enough, oh boy a dude in my server gain infamy by that. He do it alone btw.

Autocannon turrets?

I enjoyed the hell out of this, I'd be interested in seeing more battle matchups. Its always interesting to see content like this.

Nice ship ! I like that you still left a weakness in the firing arc of the turrets, makes it all the more flavourful for lore and gives an opportunity for clever fighter pilots to disable the corvette without taking excessive damage.

The missile turret seemed to do all of the heavy lifting. Having one or two more would have ended the battle very quickly in my opinion. A hit with a gatling gun will damage just one block. You have to hit that block repeatedly for it to fail. So gatlings spread damage too thin to be effective. The missiles hit hard even if not as often. One missile hit was a critical knockout, leaving the attacking force down a complete set of gatlings and rockets.

They didn't just reduce the damage of interior turrets, they also cut the range. The interior turret's range has been reduced to 400m. It used to be 800m. This further reduced their effectiveness against fighters. I had a ship set up with a large number of interior turrets for defense against drones (I usually keep drones turned off...), and it got in trouble because the drones had more range than the majority of the ship's weapons. It had, I think, only 2 Gatling turrets.

Remind me some "the expande" battles 😄

Started watching you when I saw your ship class series. I really like this format especially since your ships aren’t the armoured brick with no systems on show. How about the corvette fighting off some sort of torpedo or heavy bomber type small grids?

I like it, nice to see that the Verona still holds up.

Really enjoyed watching your fleet theory in action, would love to see more.

Great video! I'd love to see some destroyers (or other glass cannon ships) vs a battleship or battlecruiser and see which would win.

Very nice, perhaps a ground based anti-air encampment (or vehicle) vs fighters. Could use the same fighters as this video and test different turret setups against them. Keep up the great work!

Right now there aren’t enough players in most servers for large battles, plus block limits don’t allow for proper fleet combat. Even in the best case scenario of a lot of people in a faction and good block limits (or no limits at all), battles tend to end poorly or are boring because no one wanted to go mine for the resources to make more ships, ammo, etc etc. One good example is a 2-faction combat server I played on, every battle would rarely involve more than 4 small ships and would devolve into ramming because no one brought enough ammo… planetary battles are just a no, you can immobilize a tank in 1 hit because wheels are made of paper. Proper tank tracks would be nice, more durable but slower.

One bit of a criticism. The corvette didn't really maneuver or try anything. I would add that using tactics to force enemies into where you want them would be a better way to display. Without proper tactics, many ships are about useless vs. other ships of similar or some about worse if the worse ship deploys good tactics. I've watched as small ships brawl with battle ships because of good use of tactics. Edit: I mean it looked as if there was a lack of tactics, it moved, but not in some fancy tactic

Great video! Rather than a test of different ship types, I'd like to see tests of strategy and tactics. When they were running the weapon core tournaments, that was what I liked to see the most. The test in escort techniques, attack techniques (is it better to hit a turreted ship from multiple sides or all on one side?), force or weapons mix (how would your Corvette do with assault cannons instead of Gatling?), and prioritization of fleet equipment.

This would've had a different outcome if the interceptors had utilized proper combat practice. When attacking a turreted target, you need to spin around while thrusting either up or down so as to throw off turret targeting. I didn't see any of those interceptors using that maneuver, so no wonder they all were instantly annihilated. Also, let's be realistic here; those interceptors are undergunned. Only 4 gatlings is not enough for a fighter to be taken seriously. I'd say 6 or 8 for a craft of that size is what you'd actually see in real combat. And while this wasn't necessarily the point of the exercise, an interceptor should never be going anywhere near a Corvette. Interceptors are almost exclusively built for going after other small craft. It would be more fair to use proper fighters as opposed to interceptors, as fighters typically have some semblance of anti-ship capability. Other than that, it was a cool and well-produced video. Battle was also cool. Keep up the good work 👍

In your video I believe you said destroyers should be able to fight capital ships with heavy weapons and high maneuverability Why not put your dreadnought against a groups of 3 destroyers and see what kind of damage they can dish out

Amazing video may I sagest testing the viability of tecnicals against fights as 90% of my facson ground vicals are simple technical

Interesting results. I been wondering what kind of warship to build for my solo survival game, a corvette such as this is looking pretty good. Curious as to how you accomplished this. Setting a faction to enemy (using in-game AI)? other players?

With a little redesign you can have 4 gat turrets on each side.

You ever need an extra pilot. I'm ready to fly and muck things up.

No matter the results, all the ships at the end of the battle are scrap witch is not worth fixing.

Yeah, I think we need more of this.

Def do more of this kind of video, they're super interesting and helpful when designing ships!

Can you test your corvette against an escort mission?

3 corvettes vs 1 Heavy Cruiser

Ace pilot in a fighter with torpedo: "Frigate, hold my beer" xD

since the warfare 2 DLC came out. you ever think of replacing turrets on that ship for custom turret controller ones ? so you can more barrels per turret or so they have a lower profile which might make it harder for attackers to ID the turrets

How did you give the ships AI?

how does space engineers work? Is there a single player or is it all server based? Are there npcs you can fight for new players or are we thrust into pvp with our flying bricks? Also, can one player control a large ship by themselves? or do they need to actually have friends? :(

I could watch ships battle each other all day on SE. By all means, more would be appreciated!

Torpedo divers vs battleships? Would be cool.

Nice video.

this whole 'space warfare' thing is basically a more complicated version of rock, paper, scissors

so short range jumps wasnt factored into this? when crowded a short 10km jump can make or break a ship to me. some may frown on this, but its a tactic why take a pounding when you use strategy Lunar, do a vid on jump combat tactics. Most of us have no clue how to get to that point in the game to be honest love this vid brother man

how did you get the fighters to attack? others players flying them?

thats epic

more pls

Maybe consider build video of upgrading Verona to Warfare 2 standarts and then followup similar testing vid?

I’d be really interested in seeing 2 corvettes against 10+ fighters. I think multiple corvettes could cover each other well enough to dominate a swarm of fighters.

the verona could have avoided alot of damage by using better stratagies (turn and burn/spin to win) and could probably win against 9 max fighters with minimal damage

The out come would have been totaly different if the fighters had artillery cannons. Of course they didnt penetrate large grid armor with those tinny gattlings. Id like to see the same fighter with at least a heavy calibur weapon intended to crack armor.

The classifications of ships have always been fluid depending on the time and organization designing and employing them. Logically, a fighter needs a stationary base or carrier which limits range or requires massive resources. In a real word situations, lighter ships like corvettes and frigates have had the carrying capacity, for supplies and fuel, and therefore longer range, to perform long term patrol or infiltration missions, without needing an expensive carrier.

This is really neat, I'd be interested to see how this corvette, or a successor design, would perform with updated post-warfare weapons. Maybe even custom flak turrets in place of the main Gatling's and custom small grid Gatling's in place of the old older interior turrets.

I have to say, by your own terminology this was stacked in the favor of the corvette. Interceptors aren't what a corvette is supposed to screen against, they're supposed to screen against Bombers, Missiles, attack craft, and assault transports. Interceptors likewise share these same targets, and aren't supposed to fight corvettes. That's just my two cents here. Most of my small craft DO NOT qualify as interceptors, due to their heavy armament and armor. This is why I build corvettes and screening destroyers.

Hmm. My head canon Corvette should be able to be at least punch up 1 level up of it own. On 1v1 vs frigate no maybe a 3v1 With the outcome should be 1 dead 1 heavy damage 1 "damage" (unknown how much)

Cool new intro art with LK's famous music! love it

A torpedo bomber idea may be the answer. Not necessarily a torpedo by design, but something in the general spirit of a light-ish fighter carrying a weapon or two intended to substantially damage larger vessels. A cannon, railgun, or actual torpedo could suit this role, practicality dictating final choice.

Not gonna lie... combat can be a fun video edit. 😎 cool vid.

Replacing the missile turrets with auto cannons on the frigate would have made a massive difference, they hit like artillery on small grid

I have a question to anyone who knows, I've seen in a few of Lunar Kolony's videos to make turrets stagger fire, e.g. when referencing the front of a Destroyer ship to have a bunch of Artillery Turrets that fire front to back for a barrage instead of all at once. How do I do this? I've been looking through Google and found a sript but it only works for static weapons, how do I accomplish this for turrets?

Those fighters are going to need to pack some decoys to deploy and some Anti-Ship weaponry.

Also fighters with railguns can engage from 1k plus, avoiding Gatling fire.

How about a battle between a Carrier (filled with fighters) and a destroyer.

So how were you able to fly all the fighters at once?? I'd love to be able to do that??

spinning would help to spread damage over armor more without fighters locking on weapons and destroying them

This tells me that weapon systems are wrong on that corvette Or the rules are not balanced to consider costs. But honeslty humans aren't a space civilization yet so they really have no clue when it comes to space combat. Also the game's weapon systems are pretty lack luster until you get into mods

Lmao They use 1 Damn Corvette to kill A Capital Battleship in Star Sector

Is this done in terms of fleet rules that you and your friends have, or is it a free-for-all design thing so long as it's unmodded? Trying to figure out if there's a reason to justify small grid ships at all

Corvettes are more of a escort type warship so ideally you'd want multiple corvettes working together or corvettes with other ship types, the damage that we see here could be much less if the corvette was operating as part of a fleet or battle group

How about small fighters with Railguns?

No offense, but that ship, imo, is too large for a corvette, and is basically a fully fledged frigate. Just an opinion, i loved the vid anyway :)

A fighter with cannons isnt even a fighter at that point. Its a striker or attacker. Which might be perfect against a corvette

Do me a favor and replace the Gatling turrets with assault turrets and see how it performs

Fighters should have auto cannons

So are people controlling the fighters and corvette ir is AI?

try a frigit and corvent aganst fighters and a destoryer

Someone needs to start making more content like this

Nice slow mode!

Fighters need to stay at 600 meters to avoid the interior turrets ..

Did any of the fighters deploy those decoys?

The return of the intro song is welcome

now i just want to see this with bombers, not interceptors or corvette versus light frigate

That's the main reason why I love Corvettes and why I always building them for PVP even if I mostly play in PVE (much much effective) :D

This video highlights perfectly the age-old contest with wet-navy vessels. Do you build bigger ones, but fewer of them due to cost? Do you build smaller ones at the risk of them being more fragile? Or short-range defensive vessels (cheaper due to the lack of a Jump Drive) that are great at defending a fixed point but unable to respond at any great distance? I would like to see a breakdown, logistically, of the Verona versus 6 of the fighters and a ship capable of carrying them to the battlefield. Which side costs more resources to field? Which one requires less manpower to operate properly? These are just some of the decisions that Command has to make before committing to battle. Very well done!

My one point of discussion regarding this video, is calling it a corvette, instead of a gunboat or gunship. I don't think it quite fits into classical corvette rolls; while it does fit into gunboat or gunship rolls. Typically, a corvette has always been (to me,) a more utilitarian hybrid of a ship. Carrying some measure of both anti-capital, and anti-starfighter/pdw, while retaining some room for cargo and maybe even other systems (expanded comms/sensors, VIP transport suites, etc...) While Gunboats and Gunships really do tend to fit into the anti-starfighter/pdw roll that you've designed the Verona for. But, it is your universe, and if that is what you chose to classify as a corvette, than that is absolutely ok. Neat battle though. I wonder how the fighters would do with turreted weapons, allowing for more stand-off maneuverability at the cost of relying on AI targeting?

That poor fighter 0:16

Hmm...why 2 gattling on each side? Should it be 1 on all side for maximum poind defense and fighter screen

IMHO the best use of small grid against large grid are long range engagements using Warfare 2 weapons, mainly the railgun and assault cannon. You can pelt a large grid ships at ~1km distances with those weapons that auto-turrets can't reliably hit back at. The person in the large grid ship is either forced to close range with each individual fighter closer then 800 meters to get the lower range turrets like the gatling turrets and missile turrets to fire back or the large grid ship is forced to stay at range and allocate a second crew member to manually control a large caliber turret to have any chance of hitting back. I

Thats a MIX of thrusters. If you breed the two together, you'll get hybrids. May as well get the atmos in there too, a real orgy of thrusters,

I think one of the added benefits of fighters is their cost compared to large grid ships. With a good printable design you wouldn’t mind throwing away a squadron to take down a large grid ship.

Small-grid Gunship or Strike Bomber vs Corvette Be interesting to see the smallest combat vessel that could Wolfpack their way past screening corvettes to either strike the larger craft or allow other vessels to do so.

2:14 FINISH HIM!!

With significantly different piloting, one fighter can take on one corvette

Out of curiosity, who were the respective pilots?

Very cool video to watch! Little better camera work and it will be perfect!

But how many fighters could you have made with resources of the one corvette? It may be better to have multiple fighter squadrons, than one corvette. Of course that is another perspective entirely. Keep going with this video series!