Thanks for this guide. Worked a treat. Did pre-drill just to be on the safe side. Fitting was really straightforward. Very helpful video. Much appreciated.
CS7 successfully mounted underneath a Pedaltrain Classic Jr thanks to this video. Wasn’t quite as effortless as Dana makes it look (I definitely recommend pre-drilling - 4mm bit worked for me and gave a nice snug fit) but was still done within 15 minutes max. Keep up the good work, guys - love my CS7.
Great help, thank you for uploading this video. Note: you'll need a powerful drill for this; my cheap black & decker struggled. It's about time pedal board manufacturer's start making universal modular fixtures so power manufacturer's can work together with them and create an easy mount that can either slide in or pop in, but this is a workout for us non boomers. Millenials, gen z is looking at you for your super creativity dedicated to solving problems with ergonomic practical solutions.
Finally got mine installed on a Pedaltrain Classic 3! Thanks for the extra screws! The first one I stripped the top screw, and had to change out the driver. Then all went well! I used pilot holes first which made lining up easier. The flat back ones weren’t too hard. The top ones were a bit more at times. But if using a power screwdriver if it hits a point you can’t go further, or starts to strip the screw…I found best way is to put your palm on the back of power screwdriver and put some weight on it. That way you get a straight line, vs it wobbling all over the place! That worked for me…pilot holes as a guide and easier to get in. Then line up and put a palm on the back of electric screwdriver and go. I def recommend doing a pre drill with at least a pilot. I’ve always done it for the arcade cabs I remod as a hobby with different joysticks. It helps a lot to have that little hold already lined up, and makes it funny proof! Sometimes the bit may need to be bigger or shorter…which is why I stripped the first screw. Once I got the exact bit it was a lot easier! Now time to load my pedals on!
I ordered a Pedaltrain classic 3 as I have 10 Pedals plus growth. Not to mention I have a V1 Jekyl and Hyde with some bigger pedals. But this is a great help! I’ll be installing my CS12 Thursday night.
Great video! Straightforward, and helpful. Just mounted a CS12 to a PT Classic 2. Sweetwater has kits with excellent quality components. I would recommend pre-drilling, just to make life a bit easier. Thanks, Truetone!
Thanks for the useful and informative video. I pre-drilled holes and mounted a CS12 to a Pedaltrain Classic Pro pedal board. Power is excellent after initial testing and is powering several stand-alone pedals as well as a Boss GT 100 multi-effects pedal with no issues so far!!
Although it took me a hell of a lot longer than you, thank you. It was really helpful for me to refer to this video while mounting my CS 12 on my NOVO Pedaltrain. Thanks again.
Thanks, this really helped mounting the CS12 to my new PT Novo 24. My tip would be to make sure you're going super straight in with the screws and push down way harder than you think you might need to. Also, this nearly killed my 12v drill, I wish I had real man tools.
9/64 drill bit did the trick for me. Also, this video made this look waaaay easier :) Absolutely pre-drill, and be prepared to have to redrill new holes because if you're even the slightest bit off then it's ruined. I think I drilled about a dozen holes :)
Put on my big boy pants and did this without pilot holes, no problem. My 2 advantages were having a decent DeWalt cordless drill, and a bit of weight to put behind it!
Excellent video and very helpful! Can you please tell me the spec dimensions of the 4 black machine screws and the 4 silver thread forming screws because i lost mines and i need to buy them again. Thank you so much!
The screws that mount the brackets to the power supply are M3 x 6mm machine screws. You can use any self-tapping metal screw to attach the brackets to the Pedaltrain board. The ones we use are #8 x 1/2"
Lol forgot to take the battery out. Before I undo all of my work is that battery fine where it is or will it cause issues. Magnetic field or something?
Is there anywhere in the uk I can source the mounting brackets for the CS7? I misplaced them when I first got my power supply and now that I have a pedaltrain I’d like to mount it properly.
I have this unit, and I love it.. but I managed to ruin the heads on 3 of them when mounting 🤦♂️... just got em all out today. (The Silver ones) Where can i get new screws?
Good video but there could be some confusion as to right and left with the brackets. As the brackets are installed upside down, the left bracket is on the right side and right bracket is on the left side if one was looking at the unit right side up with the yellow label showing.
Hi, thank you for your video. I would like to know if i can connect a pedal In DC, on the 9V AC plug of the truetone cs12, with a converter cable ? And wich ? Is it provided with the truetone one spot cs12 ? Excuse me for my english, i m french ! Thank you very much for your answer... Cheers. Manu 🎸
You can absolutely daisy chain analog and digital pedals. Some, like the Strymon units, do not work well on a daisy chain, and must be on ground isolated outputs like on the CS7 or CS12. The issue is noise, not damage.
What are the stickers for?!?! You forgot to cover that very important piece of info! I have a pretty strong battery powerd drill and I had a difficult time even pre-drilling the holes. There's no way I was gonna be able to use the screws to make the holes. But I guess that just shows the durability of the Pedaltrain. Love the 1Spot CS12 I just installed under my Pedaltrain Nova 24. Just kinda looks weird having to be installed slanted like that. But once the pedals are on the board, you can't even see it.
Those are not stickers, they are rubber feet. They are usually used only when the unit is being displayed at a store. Yes, Pedaltrain has at times made their frames of thicker metal. So we at times have to use a more powerful drill, and put some weight behind it.
Hi Paul, after all this time, could you please tell me if you finally have put a CS7 or 10 under your PT1 ? I'd like to buy a CS7 and i'm not so sure it will fit.Thanks.
I have built my own pedalboard and have no intention of buying a pedaltrain. Would it be safe to velcro a cs7 to the bottom of my board (from a heat melting the adhesive point of view) . I would also reinforce it with a couple of cable ties to prevent accidents. I hope that the brackets fit, but I doubt they will to be honest.
Thank you for replying! After a bit of research ( AKA watching a few pedalboard builds with Dan from TPS) I figured that even the professionals use cable ties to keep their power supplies on their boards. The concept of having an expensive item dangling off of the bottom of something I've constructed is a bit daunting, so I want to be absolutely sure! The next issue is signal cables...
Thanks for the video. It seems like the brackets are not machined well to fit something like my PedalTrain Classic 2. The brakets should be made to be screwed into the center of the PedalTrain mounting area and not on the edges, The tip to pre-drill is a good one!
Just put together a pedal board for a good customer of mine. I usually use Voodoo Labs. The customer wanted something new, so I used a pair of CS12's on a Pedaltrain Pro. I never installed one, and there's no instructions or even a link to this video in the package, but I found it. My customer saw the install procedure and shut me down, and I agree with him. The brackets have to be bent, and the power supply mounts on an angle? Using a 9v (Don't forget to take it out) as a shim? We ditched these two and put a pair of VooDoo Lab PS's on. They mount flat to the pedalboard, and further off the floor. This board will be on the road for 2yrs, and he lost it at "Put a 9v Battery underneath as a spacer" You had a clean sheet, designed these new power supplies and didn't consider how they mount to a pedaltrain?
Hello Fred. Pedaltrain has changed the design of their boards a number of times since their release in the mid 90's. Because of this, we sought to make a universal set of brackets, and include them in our packaging. Bending it slightly does not make for a weak mount in any way. The brackets are steel. If we had not done this, we would have to make many different versions of the brackets. Again, we include ours, while everyone else charges extra for them. The instructions are on both our site, and are easily found by searching online. Many pro builders including Xact Tone, and Vertex have been using our power supplies in their builds.
***** The only problem is the power supply barely clears the floor. I'm building this into a road case that just needs the cover removed and 3 cables plugged in. My customer saw me using a 9v as a shim and lost his shit. I chose the CS12 because it has 4- 18v outlets. I replaced the CS12 with a VooDoo Mondo, took a smaller VooDoo and modded it so all the outlets are 18v. A lot of pedals can run at 18v to increase headroom, but not a lot of companies make 18v outlets available. I have to use up 2 - 9v outlets. The CS12 has 2-18v outlets. I understand your situation, and I'm not knocking the quality of your power supplies. I think the feature set and the price make it attractive. I don't want to burn your product. But after watching the video, I was left a bit bewildered, having to calm my customer and assure him he'll be ready for rehearsals. Thanks for the reply.
I am sorry you ran into that situation with your customer. We were simply trying to make brackets that could be used with as many different models as possible.
I hate to ask a question that might have already been covered but are you 100% certain that the cs7 will fit under a pedaltrain jr? Not the new classic jr but one of the older models with the 2 cicles cut out already. I know that your site says that it will fit all legacy models but in reading some of the other comments and doing a little online reaearch, I'm not seeing anyone saying that it will fit without some board modification. I just want to be sure that it will fit before I order it. Thanks in advance.
I'm a little disappointed.. I bought the CS7 for my PT JR (with 2 hole). The power supply fits, but it touches the ground and rubs! I've got to rise up the pt because I'm going to ruin the chassis of CS7. This thing drive me crazy cause I cannot find suitable feet and rivets to adequately rise up :-(
+MrPichuladeoro Yes!!!! The CS12 does have an external 120/240 switch that is for the 9v AC output only that needs to be switched depending on where you are. The CS7 can also work anywhere, and does not have the switch, as it does not produce 9v AC.
i have a palmer pedalbay 60. how do i fit it in? it dosnt seem right. when i bought it i didnt know this power suply was ment for a special kind of board.
The brackets were designed for the Pedaltrain boards. It looks like the Palmer has some special hooks that come with it for installing power supplies underneath.
@El Morto Beats Hip Hop Beats: I got a palmer 60 too. Would you recommend the CS12 - due to the size, mounting difficulties (vs a Voodoolab Plus2) ? If you could post a short video how your final setup looks like would be really great. Thx !
@truetone Will this fit properly on the newer Pedaltrain Classic Pro ? i tried it on some boards in the shop and it wasn't working out lining up, would have required a real workaround, the board was a Novo 18
We are not sure, as we have not tried it. We recommend the Pedaltrain board if you have not bought a board yet.The Joyo should work as it has a strap that holds in the power supply. We do not know if the holes for the ac plug will line up though.
I have an older Pedaltrain PT Pro and the CS7 does not fit. That board has an angle to it. My only option is to mount it on the top which I don’t want to do.
Came here to ask the same! I can’t for the life of me get the screws into the frame no matter how much force I use. Hopefully I still have a drill around somewhere.
"That unit falls under the "maybe" category. The only way to know for sure is to try it. Just be sure to use the AC21 cable (red on both ends). When it comes to current (mA) it will either work or it won't. If the CS12 doesn't have enough current (mA) to power it the pedal, it simply won't turn on or power up. You won't damage anything by trying."
So......after spending a whole bunch on your product, installation require a $150 power drill.....and that's the best you can do design wise? [Churned in Charlotte]
The Pedaltrain is a metal board. Please note that all serious power supplies that mount under the larger Pedaltrain boards must use a drill to install. This is the same as the Voodoo Lab install. Perhaps a friend, or local dealer can help you install it? Or, if you are anywhere near Nashville, you can come by our office, and we will gladly install it free of charge.
Thanks for your reply. I do understand the need for certain types of hardware. I still feel the mounting bracket installation is more, shall we say "brute force" rather than a carefully thought out clean fit. Your One Spot is a very solid product. --- Perhaps you already have, but forging some partnerships with some of the major pedal board companies might make your product even a better fit for their boards.
I don't think it's Truetone who decides whether or PedalTrain has wholes :O I know Temple Audio comes with holes, unsure about Voodoo labs... But yeah, I'm worried about drilling and placement in my new pedalboards D:
@@TruetoneFX Wasn't easy but I was able to flip the brackets over and mount to a flat surface (the underside of my pedalboard). I was next going to design and 3d print one... where there's a will...
+Truetone no, I have the first gen PT Pro where the front rails are closer together than the rest. Everything I've seen on The Gear Page and Google points to having to cut the board, which I'm fine with but others out there may not be. And of course there are not any how-to videos on that modification. Thank you for responding though !
+Truetone basically underneath the board the second rail has to be milled out to allow the PSU to drop between the rails (like it does in you video on the newer PT) I've read it can be done with a dremel and files. I just wish there were more information available. The people that do it just say "it's real easy this is the finished product"
It's called ted brown music they said yesterd they will look for it and I should come in today and see if they found it. Honest I've had issues with the shop it's very hard to get help at that particular location but the manager is really cool.
