1 Year Later: Is It Really the Best Budget Jet? | FMS Rafale 64mm

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The Rafale 64mm by FMS is surprisingly good, but hides a few issues that you might not notice until you've flown it for a while. Here's our year in review of flying this tough little jet with some handy mods to improve overall flight characteristics and make it a much more enjoyable experience. Like what you see?
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0:00 Gear Weaknesses
2:08 Alpha Lock Issue & Fix
3:27 Upsides & 5280 Afterburner Option
6:00 TwoBros Final Review Score

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@thetruth9747 8 месяцев назад

Jon -- As a relatively new subscriber, I appreciate the extra effort you put into your reviews with honest comments on the strengths of models balanced against their weaknesses, saving potential purchasers from having to discover them on their own. And if there is weakness, you offer a remedy, if there is one. The photography, editing, and chapters are top notch,.The narrative is informative and interesting. And, you balance your piloting skills for the novice as well as the advanced. Overall I'd say it's a 10/10. Thanks to you and your wife. -- Bob

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Thanks so much Bob! Our ultimate goal is for people to enjoy flying and have fun. Happy to hear from you!

@RaGeRC 8 месяцев назад

Glad to hear you're working with KMRC burners. I love their burners! Easy to use and great price on them as well! I already have a few of them, and they were awesome in helping me out when I had a problem with one of them. Great company. They're my go-to for afterburners!

@SpeedyTube83 25 дней назад

I was told this is the fun jet to get, so I'll do that!

@ModelAV8RChannel 8 месяцев назад

Very nice Jon, got to try one! Cool mod on the cannards. Glad to hear you going to KM RC Models Burners. Been using his for a while. So easy, and the V2 is really versatile.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, the fellow behind KMRC has wanted to work with us for a while now, so we figured it was time to change things up a little. Thanks man!

@claudiomueckay7251 7 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍and happy landings ✈️😃

@chrisdaws2421 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the canard mod idea, modified mine yesterday and tested it today, at standard cg, take off delayed, moved cg further back, flies great and landing so much better and slow….thanks again

@TwoBrosRC 7 месяцев назад

Happy to help!

@chrisdaws2421 7 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC it’s gone from ok plane too…great fun in a small field, just so much better

@Biba22392 6 месяцев назад

What things do I need to adjust in my remote control for the modification? I understand trimming the elevator up, but do I need to adjust the gyro? I have the original Reflex v2 from FMS and want to keep it. Would be nice if someone could help me :)

@chrisdaws2421 5 месяцев назад

@Biba22392 fms gyro is not adjustable, works as is or turn off , either way it flies ok

@Biba22392 3 месяца назад

@@chrisdaws2421 Okay, then the gyro works the same after modifying the canards and there's no need to adjust the gyro because of that and it just flys better than before right? Thank you very much!

@redwineisfine 8 месяцев назад

My experience with 64mm edfs, underpowered, with little flight times. Have had great success with Arrows 50mm, same speed with less weight more agility and better overall control than the 64s... Great follow-up video, always excited for Saturdays. I get a 1, 2 punch from jon, then tail heavy boys.. Good time to be in Rc

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

It's lacking just a little for thrust, but good energy management makes up for it!

@nirlachman007 8 месяцев назад

Great video Jon! Can you please add more info on how actually did you attach the canards in this angle? What did you do to make it hold?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Just CA glue, nothing special!

@davegillespie3948 8 месяцев назад

Great review of this as usual....very informative. Just wondering what angle you modded the canards to... I've got one in the box still and would love to incorporate that.... Cheers

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

As far down as they can go. Roughly 15 degrees down.

@markmcc21 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jon, my crucial mod on this plane is changing to an 80A esc and fly on 5s 2200/2800. 50% more power and a whole bucket load more fun. Power to get out of problems and no alpha lock anymore.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

At the cost of more wing loading, though. Useful if you're flying fast which is not something we're usually concerned with. Happy to see it works for you though!

@phailipp6910 8 месяцев назад

Great review! Could you please tell us your Spektrum settings für the servos and AS3X?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

150% rates, 2x gain, 17 roll, 45 pitch, 10 yaw.

@itzjoeylo4501 8 месяцев назад

5280 Afterburners Rule 🤙

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

They're definitely good!

@itzjoeylo4501 8 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC I’ve got a blue light for one of my custom built and painted assembled EDF jets. It’s my Freewing BaE Hawk bought the primed version. Still in the hanger, waiting for some nicer weather in Oklahoma 🇺🇸 to complete her paint job. Thanks for the great 👍 Content - As my wife would say, “You funny, you got jokes…!” 😂😆🤣

@phailipp6910 5 месяцев назад

Hi, I bought the 64mm Rafale and now it's ready to fly. I set it up like you (AS3X with same gains + tilted canards). I have a last question before flying it. How much did you trim your elevator down with the tilted canards? Thanks again for your video - you're the reason I bought it and really am happy about it...

@TwoBrosRC 5 месяцев назад

Elevator is actually trimmed up with the canards pointed down. Try about 1 to 2mm up. You may need more or less depending on your center of gravity. Join us on Discord and share your flight with it! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

@ioskaioska5166 8 месяцев назад

Great Video! Is this FMS Rafale in your opinion, better than the xfly su-27?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! We've never flown anything from X-Fly so we can't speculate.

@brendanshroyer7696 8 месяцев назад

I'm wondering if it might be possible to use the hinges from the Freewing 64mm F-18 to allow the canards to move in flight. I used the hinges on a Freewing F-8 to give it full flying stabs and it worked great.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

It's probably possible, though it might be a lot of work for very little tangible benefit. The canards only begin to noticeably affect airflow at high AoA and slow speeds.

@claudiomueckay7251 7 месяцев назад

Great video after 1 year testing! One question, is it possible to use a 4 channel receiver for this model like the AR410 4 Spektrum? Thanks 😃

@TwoBrosRC 7 месяцев назад

You could use a simple 4 channel receiver, but you'd have no gyro which is absolutely needed if you get the CG far enough back.

@allensrcadventures 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the canard tip ... I just cut mine off and adjusted them. I'll try it out tomorrow if weather permits. Do you hand launch in "SAFE"?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Yup, we always launch in SAFE by hand. Be sure you trim the elevons up a bit to compensate for the downward canard position, otherwise it'll lawn dart on ya!

@allensrcadventures 8 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks.

@carlo8336 3 месяца назад

nice flights, can you tell me, if the canard flaps are fixed, why are they lowered forward?

@TwoBrosRC 3 месяца назад

We explained in the video. Listen starting at 2:10

@RubyS.1 8 месяцев назад

It's a good plane. Only complaint is the esc gets confused with the smc packs if you charge them to HV.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

We didn't have that problem with ours, oddly.

@jared6072 8 месяцев назад

Not looking for a small delta, but now i want one😂

@clenchedfury6019 8 месяцев назад

A buddy bought this for me as a first edf for a birthday gift and it'll be in Thursday I can't wait to learn new flying characteristics. Should I glue the canards in at an angle if using this a a first jet?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

No, we'd recommend that you don't try this mod until you've gotten used to how it flies first.

@williamwallace9427 8 месяцев назад

Unless you plan on flying slow in big circles at high angle attack don’t ruin your new airplane

@itzjoeylo4501 8 месяцев назад

We Love ❤️ Electrical Tape - I added 1 1/2” Width in all available colors - Money 💵 Well Spent

@kluper1157 4 месяца назад

When you hand Launched with stock setup are you in stable mode?? or off?

@TwoBrosRC 4 месяца назад

We used SAFE.

@ficosk8 Месяц назад

Shi…. Now I’ll need to get this too 🤣 Did you try the Freewing 6S setup too?

@TwoBrosRC Месяц назад

Nah, never saw the point to the extra wing load of 6 cells.

@ficosk8 Месяц назад

@@TwoBrosRC yes thats the counterpart/disadvantage. The edf weights a bit more, the battery weights more and the ESC weight more. Than you are around 150g more on a lighter Lipo pack. That´s why I´m thinking to let my Futura 64mm just light 4S on my 180g packs... But sometimes speed and almost unlimited vertical are also cool xD

@flyingfools47 8 месяцев назад

After the canard mod, do you still have as much up elevator authority during normal non high alpha flight?

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

You need the trim in order to counteract the pitch down moment of the canards, regardless of what angle of attack the jet is flying in.

@flyingfools47 8 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC I was referring to whether or not the mod negatively affects the pitch up authority (even after being trimmed out)

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Not at all. If anything, it's more pitch sensitive because we're running a very aft CG.

@markmiranda5644 Месяц назад

Were you able to get to the wing mod yet? If so, any feedback?

@TwoBrosRC Месяц назад

Full span elevons? Nope, haven't finished it yet - been way too busy with other projects. It's something we'd like to do in the future though.

@R.B_B 6 месяцев назад

With rhe canard mod. It's needed fly with gyro? I have one and fly wo gyro.

@TwoBrosRC 6 месяцев назад

The canard mod is only needed if you're moving the CG back where we have it. At that point, a gyro becomes incredibly useful.

@brookekathryn1980 8 месяцев назад

Sorry Larry. I'll still be buying from you!! Gotta buy local!

@paulbellas8797 Месяц назад

Curious, how do you go from 10/10 to 8.5/10. What changed?

@TwoBrosRC Месяц назад

Should be covered in the vid.

@deanjensen8580 8 месяцев назад

What about not flying with the canards at all or do they add alot to the performance of the jet ? I think the jet looks better without them.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Without canards, it would likely need a lot of trim *and* a gyro to help stabilize it.

@williamwallace9427 4 месяца назад

Yeah right 🤣🤣 It’ll fly better without the canards. It absolutely does NOT need a gyro. This guy gives amateur advice at best

@feelgooddany 8 месяцев назад

AS3X Gains mix on the Throttle?? Did I hear this Correctly?! Can you make a how-to-do mix gains on throttle vid 😄👍

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Set gains to relative in your receiver, assign a mix of throttle to the gain channel you're using. Make sure it's a curved mix. On high throttle, reduce gains. On low throttle, increase gains. It functions similar to a full scale flight computer.

@feelgooddany 8 месяцев назад

@TwoBrosRC hey thanks for the quick reply. Gonna try to set it up .. but for now it's hocuspocus for me

@feelgooddany 8 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRCstupud question: can I use this on every jet or just the Rafale?

@Netherboiii5443 8 месяцев назад

Bro I have it but I’m waiting for the right time for the maiden

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

👀

@williamwallace9427 5 месяцев назад

“Crucial”?? Hardly. Gimicky? Yes

@TwoBrosRC 5 месяцев назад

Fixing the jet so it can't get stuck in high alpha isn't a gimmick.

@randeep3972 8 месяцев назад

Price

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

💰

@ThePhantomRocket 8 месяцев назад

so basically it's more of a second jet

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Sure, if you want it to be!

@ThePhantomRocket 8 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC I've flown a few planes, and some scratch builds, but I'm definitely still a beginner - medium skill pilot, my younger sibling is getting really good with the trainer, so I'm looking at maybe getting him something for Christmas :)