It's been a year with the BYD Atto 3 so here is a quick update on everything I have learnt 0:00 Introduction 0:33 Door 1:12 Forward Collision Avoidance Braking 1:55 Taillights 2:06 Interior 3:05 Software 4:45 Camera 5:23 Gimmicks
Great review. As a 1 year 22,000km owner of an Atto3 I pretty much agree with all your comments, though I’ve only experienced phantom braking a couple of times. I’d also say that the high beam is just not good enough. As a country NSW owner in kangaroo country a good high beam is essential and we had to install a light bar after only a few months. Overall we love the car and have done a heap of long range trips with no complaints for driving or charging. We now look forward to replacing our second car with another electric BYD!
I don't (yet) have the Atto3, I drive the Peugeot e2008. On the phantom braking, I feel "only a couple of times" is still UNACCEPTABLE. It only takes 1 time to have an accident. I haven't yet experienced it in my car, but I once did on a test drive with an MG4, on a city road with NOTHING in front of me. If a car's behind me, it could crash right into me. Cars (like the Atto3) boast about their 5 star NCAP results, but in my opinion any car that could cause a crash on its own shouldn't actually be allowed on the road. If that was the case, I bet this phantom braking would've been solved a long time ago. Not bashing the Atto3, I mean this in general, I bet my car will do it some time too.
With the new update you can now adjust the height of the projection now - but will be nothing like a light bar. I find them okay driving in pitch black on my way to the snow
@@juicdgarage Phantom breaking in a Tesla is not similar to what BYD's do, its something Teslas used to rarely do when in self driving mode, not something that could ever occur when manually driving, it is also something they fully fixed about a year ago.
@@ivo4357 They'll reprogram the software eventually. All these systems are new are will be refined over time. ABS was similar when it first came out- now no one even talks about it.
@@arturasdanaitis1335are you sure you got the extended range version. Mine has nearly 40000km and still goes at least 370-380 with full charge(I have the extended range version)
Great review! I've had my Atto 3 for 12 months now too and I love the car. It's been far better than I expected. The gimmicks... Spot on! 😂 I never rotate the screen, but I do love that I can use the voice assistant to control fans and climate when Apple Car Play is on. It means I don't have to swipe up and fiddle with the on screen buttons while driving. Those guitar strings are what I probably hate the most... Especially when I have my young nieces and nephews in the car. 🎸 🎸
Good video! I have only had our BYD Atto 3 for 6 months, and only driven 6800 km. I love the car, best car I have owned. My husband owns a HSV Maloo Ute V8. He now prefers to drive my Atto. We do find the voice assist useful for quick instructions, however, tend to activate it mostly from the top right of the screen. We hardly ever rotate the screen. For me it is a far more comfortable ride than his Ute, just the right height for me. It would be good if it remembered some settings, however, this has just become a habit when we start the car. Overall, I am very happy with the car and look forward to every drive. Thank you for your update. Happy New Year!
@@gregdean8441they might be a “fad”, if we didn’t have Elon/Tesla. With a person like Elon and one of the biggest companies in the world(Tesla), EV’s and the technology will continue to advance.
@@gregdean8441 Not likely the V8 is a collector's item only 27 made that year. Besides it is my Husband's car. EV technology will only continue to get better. I love driving past fuel stations :)
A comment on the BYD's door compared to the Toyota. Sure, the BYD's door might keep the area immediately around the door cleaner, but you can replace the Toyota's side skirt in case of damage in that area but, for the BYD, you'd have to replace the entire door.
Thank you for the creative presentation. This car was on top of my list for my next EV. But display software is also important. So I look for thoroagh software feature reviews... As well as the gimmicky bells and whistles that make a car unique. I know this car was modelled around a gym equipment theme... But as a flight enthusiast it gives me a bit of retro cockpit vibes, which is why I gravitate to this model. I'll watch your prior videos to see if I can find a more comprehensive software review. Great video😊
Well honestly the stock software version for ME was fine, just that it didn’t have wireless Apple connect etc. but after V1.1 update for ME it become glitchy. A/C doesn’t go off!! Etc etc issues !!! And the voice commands just don’t seem as efficiently picked up by the car as before !! There’s a video about the current ongoing glitchy BYD atto3 software on RU-vid
Great and fun review thanks. I also had two scare incidents when the emergency braking action activated when I was close to front car without stepping on manual braking. I concluded that it was caused much due to my old habit driving ICE car where, to reduce wearing of brake pad, I would let my car slowly coast nearer to the front car when it is slowing down either to stop or to turn. Without nudging the ATTO 3 brake, it would perceive that I was not aware of the situation and step on the brake for me suddenly. Realising this, I changed my driving habit and just use the brake as there is regen anyway. Nudging the brake pedal to prevent unintentional emergency braking has worked for me so far!
Exactly this! When someone is slowing to make a turn, I tend to leave enough of a gap so to not slow down the traffic and time it so that they would be fully out of the way by the time I get there. But obviously the car doesn't know that...
The main functionality of the rotating screen is for APP display mode compatible. In China a lot of BYD owners prefer to download apps by themselves from a browser, because apps in BYD Market are usually few and obsolete. Some apps were designed for mobile phone only thus they only run properly in portrait screen. BYD's infotainment system will detect this and automatically rotate the screen to fit when launching those apps.😊
Also I found it's interesting they didn't bother to switch orientation of those buttons on central panel. In China it's left-hand drive so that volume adjustor wasn't meant for the driver, it's for the passenger in case she doesn't like your music.😅 Although I do agree with you a button for AC temperature in that place is way more useful.
Thanks for making the video ED. You made me laugh so much with the gimmicks. Very helpful the 'swipe up'. I didn't know that. Yes, reconfiguring that wheel on the centre console would be a great idea.
Hi, your channel has been a good source of info also being quite a big influence in my purchase of atto3 in nov16 2023 Having said that I’ve done road trips of 3600+ Kms round trip across deserts and heavy wind conditions. Passed 10k Kms on the 37th day of purchase and currently at 10600+ Kms Pushed it to 1% while beating the km range stats that was displayed !!! Great vehicle and of course awaiting the release of updates in uae Cheers and keep posting !
Nice im just about to book my 40000km service having owned the car since last June. They are so great for 200 - 350km daily use. Most I've done is 1200 km in 2 days with a single charge lunch break each day. Worked great but I would like to see towns with more than one charger as not much redundency in case of fault. Early days though
Very nice video. Definitely would love actual dials for HVAC like my Mazda 3 or Nissan Pulsar. Wish they created a cheaper model with that. Very informative video. Keep up the good work.
You are so funny, should do more Volgs. Good jobs 🎉
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I am owning my BYD Dolphin since 4 months and after already 11,000 km I am very happy with the car. I also have the impressions, that the sensors/software is too sensitiv (phantom breaking) in some conditions.
If you're coming from older cars without the so called half baked ADAS system, this phantom braking & steering locking does affect most cars with such system. A colleague of mine had a accident in a brand new Japanese car as a result of phantom braking & steering locking when he couldnt maneuver. Firstly the sudden hard braking out of the blue caused the vehicle behind him to rear-end his car & the impact shot his car forward into on coming traffic lane. He couldn't maneuver his steering following in rear impact as the steering was locked. Only after the car came to a stopped on the opposite lane can the steering be turned. The ADAS system detected him trying to cut lanes without signalling thus prevented him from turning! Fortunately he was not hit by oncoming traffic. I too had experienced phantom braking with a few rented cars when I forgot to turn the ADAS system off.
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@@zizimai7568 I am very happy with my BYD Dolphin but some parts of the ADAS were/are better in my Mazda cars from 2017 and 2019. I assume it is a software/calibration problem.
Also, one of the significant software updates improved the charging and maintenance of the 12v auxiliary battery. Another was improving the Smart Charging ie, how it dealt with smart solar chargers. yet another was the Pedestrian warning sound became less intrusive. Great vid, thanks.
Wheever I've been in the Atto 3 including renting one for a weekend I found the door handles so easy and natural. Total opposite with a Tesla Model Y which I found very weird.
This autonomous braking system when you edge too close is a feature of other cars too like my VW. However it is only active below 40 km. I have found it to be useful and have always activated in the correct situation, even if I know I will stop in time.
If you're stoked about the wheel cam view - you should check out any of the eGMP platform models. They have a 360 camera system that shows left and right wheels simultaneously + birds-eye view (works for both front and rear depending on which gear you're in) so you don't curb them on either of the 4 corners. really helpful when you need to pass really narrow passages or parking close to a curb. the front view comes up automatically when you're approaching an obstacle / tight space, too.
I find rotating the screen to vertical really handy sometimes when using the navigation. If you are wearing polarising sunglasses though the screen goes to black. Phantom braking does add some excitement to the drive. I've learn't to cover the accelerator pedal when using cruise control so if braking does occur I can just stamp on the pedal to over ride it. When it most often happens to me is when I'm reversing down my driveway about 2 cm away from the fence. Changing the tyres to Sport Contact 7's made a big difference to the grip on the road
Great review as always. I have also enjoyed watching your "snow video" with the Atto 3. We also own an Atto 3 in Germany since December 23. Since it is a LHD version it has other ADAS calibration and I am actually quite satisfied with it especially after the 1.4 update (which would bei the 1.6 in Australia as far as I know). The heating has been improved after the 1.5 update (I don't know the corresponding Australian software version however). I cannot recognize any phantom braking at all, maybe the European software also differs from the Australian one at that point, or I just have different driving behavior which helped me to avoid the phantom brakings without knowing it. 😄The traffic sign recognition is still trash though, it tells me I should drive 30 on a highway with sped limit of 130 km/h, therefore I have been ignoring the traffic sign consequently, hopefully BYD also improves the traffic sign recognition. I also love the suspension and steering. It does not differ much from the german cars we have driven before, but it only applies to the European version of Atto 3. However it seems that BYD removed the dashcam function in the European version, since it is controversial in context with the data protection laws in several countries. 🤔
The dealer told me that the one pedal function will be available in a few months. However, there is no news regarding the increase in charging power beyond 85 KW; VolksWagen did it via software on ID3 taking it from 85 KW to 115 KW.
I wish u could say more about charging behaviour of BYD. I own an EV in India and it has a very limited charging pattern. So would love to hear from you abt how BYD charging pattern works
Nice summary. I haven’t had a problem with headrest other than having to wipe off some hair product from time to time. Am a bit triggered by seeing the tailgate opening sticker. That was one of the first things to go.
The wife likes the extra volume control on the centre console, easy for her to turn down the radio when she wants to talk to me. Yeah, having it as a fan speed control might be nice. :) (yes, I know she can always say Hi BYD)
My Suzuki Vitara with all ADAS functions does the ‘phantom braking’ thing when overtaking too. It seems it’s not limited to electric vehicles. Anything with advanced ADAS functions seems to do something similar. Great review. Looking at either the Atto3 or MGZS EV… Some really good info here. Thanks heaps. I think this has helped make my decision.
Can you tell me how to get voice activation on speed. So it warns me if I exceed say 30mph. I can only set to 35mph with no voice. When I had a test drive the vehicle warned with voice. Thanks
The door handle is better than the model 3. There are 2 door opening method. One is the press buttom. Which is very confusing for folks not familiar with the car. The other is the physical lever. Which intend for you to bail out while the press buttom fail. Ive been told using the lever too often will ruin your window seal.
Hey Mr Ed! I watched a review of the BYD Dolphin and witnessed a total of SEVEN prods at the touchscreen to turn of Lane Keep Assist. As it defaults to on every time you start the car, this is a dealbreaker for me unless it can be made easier. Can you say "Hi BYD, turn off the lane keep assist"? Also, your one month ownership video highlighted the sensitivity of the "Forward Collision warning" alert. Has there been an OTA update or improvement in the situation?
I think the forward collision warning is still there but because the warning sound is so much more tamed now I can live with it. Good new is these are software issues so hopefully being able to turn off Lane Keep Assist completely will come through in the next updates
Woow love it. 🎉. I have visited one of EV maker in China last month. It was a mind blowing experience for while life. The factory and complex was super smart and clean 😮😮😮😮. Now I really believe how they made a best cars in the world ❤
I have a Byd Atto 3 purchased in France driven 8200+ kms in 6 months. I was happy with the car initially and I am starting to get disappointed now with some of the problems mentioned below . I guess it’s the same spec for all European countries. Battery range in winter around 10 degrees C is very poor in spite of the heat pump . For a trip of 105kms with speed limit of 70-90Kmph driving it used to consume 20-25% in summer of my battery ( 60.54Kwh) now it’s consuming 35-40% in winter The rythmic ambient light “sync with music” is also not working . I cannot even control it between front on and rear off or vice versa . Anybody else have this problem ? Rear wiper after using does not stop after turning off the knob . Have to restart the car to stop it. It keeps making the scratchy noice untill then which is annoying. The lock button on the rear boot only works 30% of the time . Although the close rear boot door button works all the time. If I use the phone app to heat the car (schedule or instant ac on ), it also plays the last played music (Spotify example) at same volume . There is no dash cam( driving recorder ) icon , does anyone know if it’s exclusive to some specific market ? Although there is the mini sd card slot . Also received only 1 sw update since July 2023. Currently on 1.4 version. I am not satisfied with especially with the money paid.
These are very good observations. Yes I do notice the rear boot lock button does not work occasionally, wasn't sure if there is a sequence to it or something. Do manages the distribution of BYDs in Europe? Surprised there hasn't been more updates - Here is Australia the latest version is 1.7
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That was a video that got me nodding and feeling validated 😂 Now, does anyone have problems with the Bluetooth/Spotify connection? The music stops playing in certain areas when I'm driving. I owned a Fiat 500 before I bought this one and never had this issue. The same goes for the ACC stop working when the driving conditions aren't really bad. Is this a common issue?
Just wanted to ask if you have noticed the fact that the battery management system ie cooling or heating does not function if the car is off but the doors are not locked. I have a bad habit of not locking my car as crime is so low we don't worry about where we live. For some one like me this could lead to damaging the battery pack.
Ive had mine for 1.5 years (since oct 22) I've had the following gripes: - The doors are heavy! Oldies have trouble opening and closing. - ADAS is stinking hot trash. It is downright dangerous. I always disable. Looking forward to an update where we can permannently turn it off. - The suspension just doesnt feel right. We feel every bump when driving semi sealed roads. Love the following: - V2L - Cheap electricity prices. Looking forward to: - taking it to the snows like you did (perisher?) and having hotpot for lunch
I spent a long time comparing the the Atto 3 and the Model Y as we are planning to get a second car (currently have a Model Y) these were the pros and cons I came up with during all my test drives with the BYD, I would love it for some of these to be wrong (or maybe they fixed them?) as I would love to save a bit of money and go with the BYD. BYD CONS: No phone key, have to use a physical key (and you only get 1, $400 for an extra) Terrible tires (borderline unsafe in the wet) (decent tires are about $1800) No per person seat/wheel/mirror position memory No automatic driver profiles No support for multiple spotify (or any media) accounts Less power/performance The doors are heavy and low to the ground. Some people have trouble opening and closing. No digital childlocks Mirrors don't aim down when reversing Front wheel drive (feels worse to drive, you get torque steering when accelerating, less controllable) Worse lane centering/cruise control, felt very unreliable Much much less storage No real one pedal driving No semi-automatic indicators No always on dash cam (sentry mode) Barely any functionality from the phone app (looks like it might have been improved) Requires actual servicing (I asked what they did, basically nothing + some filters) 80 kw p/h max charge speeds (Teslas are over 200 kw p/h) Doesn't handle as well when driving, a bit touchy and jumpy both in braking and accelerating. Can't limit the height of the auto open boot by location Infotainment system is awful, software overall is terrible More reliability issues (still not too bad compared to other cars, but the common structural rust issues are concerning) Built in navigation is bad, satellite connection is spotty. Stuck using third party chargers, not able to use the Tesla charger network Speakers are pretty bad Less real world range than a similar Tesla Can't change the volume of the indicators, they are stupidly loud (This looks like it was adjusted in an update) ADAS is basically broken. BYD PROS: 20% cheaper than a new Tesla Android auto support Built in 240v powerpoint Has an OEM heads up display.
I am a model 3 driver and one pro I would add to the atto is 360 degree birds eye view. Why on earth Tesla do not have this is just beyond me. I agree byd has a long way to go but I think they will close the gap in coming years. I think they are also further down the track with home power storage integration from the car but I don’t know if that is a functioning option yet. I think the byd seal can be hooked up to the house power system somehow but could be wrong.
@@andrewmee8136 I have used both for parking and the Tesla's high quality tri cam view is soooooooooo much better than BYD's low quality 360 cam view. And yeah if you look at my comment I mentioned the power sharing as a pro for the BYD.
Thanks Ed great video. In the update I disagree with making the engine emulator noise so subtle that it is potentially dangerous to pedestrians. Our cat does not even move
FYI. The correct way to overtake is to indicate>accelerate to get closer to the car in front> then pull out. Pulling out before accelerating puts you in on coming traffic for longer - and trigger’s phantom breaking apparently!
The 12V battery sucks tho. We had the car just stopped working after a small pit stop to feed the little one. Now its at a workshop to get the 12V changed
Thanks Ed. Absolute ripper! We have an Atto 3 and think it is quite extraordinary in general. Things I really dislike are the guitars rather than having a proper usable door drink holders instead. The drinks holders are always too small except for a cup of coffee. The Qi charging is very hit and miss. The original tyres are atrocious but easily replaced with decent rubber such as Continentals. Biggest gripe is no real Tesla like one pedal driving which should be included and be switchable so those who do not like it or want such an aggressive regen. This could be user selectable. For me, it's a huge miss not to have one pedal driving. Otherwise, until maybe a Zeekr SUV or the BYD Song L becomes available, I am very happy.
Finding out that BYD don’t offer one pedal driving was a deal breaker for me for their entire range. Some of the other quirks in their cars were hit or miss but I could learn to live with them but having owned a Tesla for nearly 4 years EVs now have to offer one pedal driving.
Hi Atto 3 community. My wife and I are thinking seriously of buying one of these. We live in a regional area in QLD. My concern is the range erosion when driving at highway speeds without any regen. What are owners experiences? What realistic range can you plan when at the maximum 100km speed limit? Thanks in advance.
The Atto LR is a draggy beast. However, it can go quite a long way under the right conditions. Going for maximum range I have found the best range speed, with cruise on, under good conditions (good road surface, flat terrain, no wind) is 80kmh. That gives an absolute range (100-0%) of around 430km. Practical maximum range including buffer is around 360km. Headwinds and driving at 100kmh can knock about 12% off these figures. Above 100kmh range can be reduced quite significantly. I regularly do a lot of trips up to about 300km between charge points and find the Atto is perfectly adequate for such trips. On very long trips I plan to recharge every 250km. Using fast DC chargers I stop the charge at 90%. I normally only charge to 100% using an AC slow charger (3KW).
I drove from Sale in East Gippsland to my home in central Vic, just south of Bendigo on a single charge and got home with 20% battery. A far bigger factor than regen in highway driving is gradient. I use half as much power going downhill into the city as coming back going from 700m to sea level and back.
i can play deep purple's first couple of notes from smoke on the water on my guitar strings on the back left door (tuning is just right).. so yes, its a useful feature for me 🤣
