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10,000 Miles in the 2021 Volkswagen ID.4 | 2021 VW ID.4 Long Term-Test Update | The Good & the Bad 

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We’ve learned a lot about our 2021 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro - both good and bad. Our tester now has over 10,000 miles, and in this video, we take you through what we’ve liked, what we haven’t, what kind of range we’re seeing, and more. Head to the video above to learn more about how our experience has been thus far with the 2021 VW ID.4 Pro!
ID.4 pricing & review: edmu.in/2IwZtSP
Check out all the updates from our VW ID.4 long-term test: edmu.in/3IJFbW8
00:00 Intro
00:45 What We Got
01:47 The Good
03:29 The Bad
08:15 Range & Maintenance
08:57 Edmunds' Take
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@edmundscars
@edmundscars Год назад
The ID.4 experience is one of peaks and valleys; we love how it drives, but the user experience drives us up a wall. What's more important to you? Let us know in the comments below!
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
I’d take an ioniq5 but I’d absolutely pick this over the worst evs on sale
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 Год назад
I’m surprised it hasn’t left. You stranded due to software glitches like it has with many other owners. Sold ours immediately after it wouldn’t drive twice within the first week of ownership. It was a piece of junk. Worst car experience ever.
@scottvickery2057
@scottvickery2057 Год назад
@@Wasabi9111 What did you replace it with?
@Lascarnn
@Lascarnn Год назад
Which software version were you using? 3.2 is a game changer, to be honest, lots of issues have been fixed and features provided.
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
@@Wasabi9111 new software update!
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
Have a 2023 ID.4 and absolutely love it. Has had zero issues, not even with software, drives great, has good range, charges great, roomy, and the newer software is much better.
@114D
@114D Год назад
How much you pay? Help a brother out…
@ivanprotasov9746
@ivanprotasov9746 Год назад
What software is in your car installed?
@Demobot1
@Demobot1 Год назад
​@@ivanprotasov9746Should be 3.2.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver Год назад
That’s right, great ride!
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 Год назад
You need to drive it for 4 to 5 more years to really know what you got.
@jo66hn41
@jo66hn41 Год назад
We've just bought a 2023 ID.4 Pro and have driven it for about a month. The driving experience has been excellent. Smooth acceleration, nice handling and super quiet in the cabin. Build quality is excellent with no panel gaps or poor interior fit out. Apple Carplay and Android Auto have worked flawlessly. That being said the UI isn't great. It has worked fine but it's just not very intuitive. If VW can come up with a UI that makes a little more sense then they have quite a car on their hands. All up we really love our ID.4.
@_dionisio
@_dionisio Год назад
I have an European 2021 ID.4 with 3.0 Over The Air software. It works great now. It is a good car that, nevertheless, had several noticeable issues at the beginning. There are no software bugs anymore and, for example, Travel Assist works great now: it follows the road curves very accurately and the steering wheel turns smoothly (in this aspect, comparable to the Tesla SFD). After 1 year and 4 month I can say that the car is worth it.
@PedroBrandaodrums
@PedroBrandaodrums Год назад
I have a ID.4 2021 Pro S driving experience is amazing, quiet ride, no issues at all. Car is fantastic for everyday drive. Did 2 road-trips from Boca Raton, FL to Charlotte with no issues. It’s my first EV car moving from gas cars.
@HanFollo
@HanFollo 3 месяца назад
Agreed. Have driven ours for almost a year. Amazing driving experience.
@PedroBrandaodrums
@PedroBrandaodrums 3 месяца назад
@@HanFollo awesome
@mrgainey
@mrgainey 21 день назад
Very close on pulling the trigger on a 21 myself. I can see these software issues aggravating me over time, but still leaning towards it based on the enjoyable test drive.
@jayteesgear
@jayteesgear Год назад
This is SO HELPFUL! Ive been very drawn to these but with those user errors Im not even going to take time to look at it
@---ge9cq
@---ge9cq 11 месяцев назад
I bought mine 8 months ago and I’m super happy, my experience has been fantastic; great size, amazing torque, good suspension, super quit and the look and feel is perfect.
@imSincerePromise
@imSincerePromise 10 месяцев назад
I’ll show you something with a great size, looks and feels perfect with the right amount of torque when the suspension have us bouncing up and down
@DMulabiTalejan
@DMulabiTalejan 7 месяцев назад
We URGENTLY need a car video titled "a car is not a phone" !!!!
@chrisl22182
@chrisl22182 Год назад
I got one of these right before Christmas. I have 4450 miles on it and no software issues. Some things require more touches than they should, like changing stations on the radio, but not really the climate control. Just set it on auto and touch the “buttons” to raise and lower the temp. The travel assist works very well, once I’m on the highway, I don’t need to steer or work the pedals, and that’s with lots of curves and stop and go traffic. Where I live, teslas are extremely common, and I didn’t want the same thing as everyone else. You do give up is a little range, I have the awd and I only get about 265. It’s a good car if you want something different.
@HanFollo
@HanFollo 3 месяца назад
Yes, the adaptive cruise control on VW ID. series works really well.
@safa1745
@safa1745 Год назад
I have 2022 id 4 pro s and I love ot! I had no issues with it at all!
@Enrico_Palazzo82
@Enrico_Palazzo82 9 месяцев назад
The car is good! the New update is great
@scooterjsl
@scooterjsl Год назад
I think being aware of the issues, I still feel Comfortable purchasing an AWD, Pro S this summer
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver Год назад
Nice - did you get it yet?
@Mike.Macmyazka
@Mike.Macmyazka Год назад
In regards to the auto down feature with the windows…my 2016 Fusion SE with tech package has that and I did the same thing when I bought the car. Didn’t know it was enabled and must have had the key in my pocket while I napped. Woke up and wasn’t aware until the guy from my town’s city hall messaged me and told me. It was snowing that day. Learned how to turn that off immediately and it’s been off since then. Probably handy down south when it is super hot but not in MN.
@HanFollo
@HanFollo 3 месяца назад
The main advantage of the steering wheel touch sensitive buttons is swiping. You don’t need to look down or fidget when you swipe. It took me by surprise when I realized this is how those sensitive buttons are intended to be used. It’s amazingly intuitive to use, when you need to adjust ACC cruising speed or sound volume or skip songs. You just swipe your thumbs across the middle of the small panels , super easy and effortless, no need to look down or find the right buttons. It’s a pity those buttons are misunderstood.
@TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay
@TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay 4 месяца назад
This is very informative as I'm considering buying this for my parents. The "CLIMA" system is the deal breaker.
@Chaos173xxx
@Chaos173xxx Год назад
I have the ID4 2023 model with 3.1 software and have no software issues. In the 6 months I have had it, at no point has it been necessary to roll down the rear windows, so I really can´t see the problem with the lack of bottons. The volume it controled at the steering wheel, but if you insist on using the bar under the screen, just slide it and it doesn´t matter where you hit it. Same with the temp control.
@Ibar3735
@Ibar3735 Год назад
I don't know why everyone freaks out about the window buttons. Every reviewer is always driving by themselves yet whining that they can't roll down the back windows easily... but why and who, when driving solo, needs to roll down the rear windows? I own an ID.4 and don't find it a bother at all. When my kids are in the car with me in the back, they can roll down the windows on their own.
@SssshirazzzZ
@SssshirazzzZ Год назад
agreed, a very overblown point.
@FurryFriendsTube-du7gb
@FurryFriendsTube-du7gb Год назад
any issues with your touch screen?
@zonraNboy
@zonraNboy 9 месяцев назад
Same feelings. Pretty much all the "bad" things about the car tells me it's pretty perfect car if they have to make up those pointless "problems". Windows rolling down when pressing keyfob, I've had it in all my cars past 13 years, and not once have it been a problem. Every software crashes sometimes. Automatic climate control doesn't need adjusting the temperature manually. It's called automatic for a purpose. If people want buttons, why don't they just get an old car with a lot of manual levers and buttons to adjust them while driving. I'm getting really interested in ID4 now. Yet to find out anything bad at it. It looks better than any EV I've ever seen.
@agustinjimenezrodriguez7803
@agustinjimenezrodriguez7803 2 дня назад
@@zonraNboyyes, nice vehicle 👌🏼
@BudgetGamerz
@BudgetGamerz Год назад
The window going down when holding the unlock button is not only a volkswagaon feature.
@LiohJuney
@LiohJuney Год назад
I was about to say my BMW does that along with the sunroof. You have to intentionally hold down the button in order to do so. Unless the key fob is capacitive, I think someone or something was on the button. Especially if it only happened one time.
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
Yeah I don’t know why that was a complaint with the car, seemed like user error to me
@DeckAndBlackerDJs
@DeckAndBlackerDJs Год назад
I had the same thing happen to my Skoda just when... it had been snowing that night. Always turn this feature off as soon as I can whenever I get a new VW group car now. It has nothing to do the with ID.4, that's true, but I still find a really niche feature to put as a default functionality right on the key fob, just curious to see who uses this so often honestly...
@BudgetGamerz
@BudgetGamerz Год назад
@@DeckAndBlackerDJs but you are saying vw group cars... Even Fords do this.
@LeFennecFox
@LeFennecFox Год назад
Also you can turn it off in the car settings
@empiirik
@empiirik 7 месяцев назад
The unexpected windows roll-down case recalled me of my own experience with my 2010-built Opel Astra. One winter morning I discovered that all windows were rolled down during the heavy snowfall. And I'm sure I didn't touch my keyfob at all.
@benjaminschneider4555
@benjaminschneider4555 Год назад
With buttons on the ignition key to open all the windows, Volkswagen has been doing this for a long time. He was already with my Golf 3.
@benjaminschneider4555
@benjaminschneider4555 Год назад
It's actually a practical thing.
@nws1980
@nws1980 Год назад
I share your pros and cons 100% - I have exactly this car (and same color)😅
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 Год назад
Did the wet interior upset the electrics and is it better to simply plug in your phone for more reliable connectivity? In my car if I hold the button down long enough it closes all the windows.
@kenneth2662
@kenneth2662 Год назад
I bought a VW id4 hot wheel so far I have had no issues besides the braking when I sent it across the patio table and it fell off and scratched on the concrete
@paulcosta5854
@paulcosta5854 7 месяцев назад
It kills me how people are saying that $41K is a low price for a car.
@oobbyb
@oobbyb Год назад
I wouldn't hold my breath on that software update. I've been waiting 20 months.
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
It is here now!
@chopsueykungfu
@chopsueykungfu 3 месяца назад
My 2021 ProS now has 80k miles, and software 3.1 updated earlier this year, makes it run a bit better - but I never had any problems.
@yuriytopin8040
@yuriytopin8040 3 месяца назад
I heard a few times about the rear windows buttons problem, but I have another problem. In 99% I open windows without looking and instead of front, I open rear window (changed few cars of different brands). I think for some part of clients it could be good feature to have only 2 buttons.
@sutikno917
@sutikno917 Год назад
it could be a consideration for purchasing because the price is cheaper and the specs are almost the same as competitors
@gzman1
@gzman1 10 месяцев назад
wheres the wrap up video after the update?
@robertt1336
@robertt1336 Год назад
I heard VW discontinued software updates for many owners a while back. Believe they were taking way too long to update and the process was not going smoothly for the dealerships. I’m sure they will get Edmunds’ taken care of tho 🤷‍♂️
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
The latest software update came first of April. Owners seem pleased.
@mercedesbenzfw5219
@mercedesbenzfw5219 Год назад
Do the Carplay and Android Auto issues persist if you use the wired connection to connect or is it all through the wireless connection?
@keangfamily
@keangfamily Год назад
The in car GPS sucked but apple CarPlay GPS is excellent.
@AustinWyattPetersen
@AustinWyattPetersen 9 месяцев назад
When is the next update video?
@wardagainstuber
@wardagainstuber Год назад
Android auto issues are most likely a google side issue if youve had it work before. Google pushes random updates that breaks things more than it fixes
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 Год назад
Interesting, I wonder how many of us even consider that instead of always blaming the company
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
Yes, I have had issues with Android Auto connection in multiple cars from multiple brands, Apple CarPlay has been solid though, in our ID.4 it picks up your phone almost immediately wirelessly and we’ve had no issues
@aaronchristensen796
@aaronchristensen796 Год назад
Thinking of purchasing a EV (maybe an id 4) but we are snowbirds and would be leaving it behind outside in the cold North Idaho winters. Is storing it 4 months in the cold bad for the battery health, should that be left plugged in? Any help would be appreciated, we can't seem to find any info on this subject. Thanks!
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
Like storage for any EV for extended period of time. Charge to 80% and unplugged.
@ccsocal768
@ccsocal768 Год назад
Last I heard, 41k is A LOT OF MONEY! 🤔🤔🤔
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
yes, it is and will barely get an Integra A-spec or WRX (but not a WRX-GT). you can't even get a Golf-R for $41k
@paulcosta5854
@paulcosta5854 7 месяцев назад
@@japanwatchconnection I make six figs and I still think this is too much for what it is. A gas car of the same size and equal specs costs half the price and without all the issues. I don't work to buy over-priced things just to keep up with the trends. I'm not into financial gaslighting and won't follow the school of thought that $41K is cheap for a car just because an "influencer" says so.
@aleckinch1199
@aleckinch1199 5 месяцев назад
any idea what the 3rd , & 4th , 30k 40k inspections cost that aren't covered by VW?
@aleckinch1199
@aleckinch1199 5 месяцев назад
Of course they cover the fist 2 where nothing is needed....lol.....i.yi.yi......cars...
@davescott1491
@davescott1491 Год назад
No knobs no deal. Other than that, pretty nice vehicle.
@JarodJohn
@JarodJohn Год назад
Have 33k miles on my 21 pro s and it's been an absolute nightmare. Worst car by far I've owned. Suspension issues, ac control module failed from factory, faulty 12 v battery, and infotainment system is absolute garbage. I know there is a planned update, but my wife got it on hers and it's a very lack luster update. The current issue is there is a recall pending for a software bug that may cause lost of propulsion during driving. On top of all that seats are wearing out and cracking despite not using them, and a similar story on leather steering wheel starting to crack. While everyones dealer will be different but the two dealers in my area have been slow and frequently have to bring vehicle in multiple times before issues are actually fixed. Extremely poor ownership experience overall.
@dantribby199
@dantribby199 Год назад
I'll give you 5 bucks for it
@LittleAnastasia...
@LittleAnastasia... Год назад
So you actually own a tesla?
@Demobot1
@Demobot1 Год назад
This is why you never buy the first gen of anything.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver Год назад
31’ turning radius vs 40’ in a depla Why lol. That’s a safety issue needing almost 50% more room to make a U-turn. That’s why they call it a Y-turn??!! 😅
@gesp5151
@gesp5151 2 месяца назад
Interesting you say you only like the drive. Replicates my experience of the Cupra Born EV platform which is incredibly poor. Never meets the technical specifications on official website which VW seems to think are “a range” (albeit a range it never gets in to). I’d avoid VW, much better options and continued feeling they’ve not learnt from Dieselgate
@farcinue
@farcinue Год назад
Bring back physical buttons in cars! It’s like car designers designed their interfaces from a desk and not while driving.
@jg11596
@jg11596 Год назад
touch only controls should be made illegal in road vehicles. Mechanical buttons, knows, and switches should be mandatory
@M1911jln
@M1911jln Год назад
VW used to have excellent interiors and switchgear. VW completely ruined the switchgear on the ID4 and the GTI. I simply won't consider these cars as a result.
@Mike.Macmyazka
@Mike.Macmyazka Год назад
Hopefully they’ll use the feedback from consumers and go back to something a little more traditional in the future. Companies have been experimenting with this stuff for more than a few years and they’ve all pretty much undone some of these mistakes. Volume and tuning knob is one of the most common. Just look at Honda. I doubt it will be an immediate change but maybe by mid-cycle refresh they will do something about it. A lot of great things that I like about both of those vehicles but that’s why I’m more interested in the Jetta Sport or GLI myself. Then again, VW interiors don’t compare to years ago in terms of quality. It seems to be the thing they’ve gotten rid of in order to keep their cars competitively priced.
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
To disregard an entire car simply because of subpar infotainment controls is dumb
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
@@nothere572...funny, ppl write off (all) Mazda's for this very feature. personally, I think Mazda's infotainment is fine, but everyone else who changes sources every few minutes, it isn't good enough because it isn't touch screen when the car is in motion....so why can't ppl write off VWs for crappy infotainment, crappy (touch) buttons and/or the lack there of....
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 Год назад
​@Bugs yeah, prioritizing something you use every single time you drive the car is dumb...
@anthonyc5393
@anthonyc5393 Год назад
@@nothere572 Eh, fair maybe if you just sit and drive, but for me, I change radio stations constantly, crank up the climate then lower the fan... and I drive a lot. On my '16 Volvo, I never even have to look down to do those functions. I sat in an ID4 at Carmax, for 45 minutes today playing with the system, HOPING the reports were an exaggeration. They are not. I realized I'd have crashed 10 times trying to change the climate IF I'd been attempting to drive and do those things in the ID4, in motion.
@donastradamous031
@donastradamous031 Год назад
Do yall think about people that live in apartments 🤔 too
@donastradamous031
@donastradamous031 Год назад
@japanwatchconnection so ignorant 🙄
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
in all honesty, the car looks as exciting (to own) as a 2.0L (115hp) Mk3 Golf GTI...meaning not very exciting at all
@Indy_at_the_beach
@Indy_at_the_beach Год назад
Every ID4 owner has been waiting for that hallowed day when software that actually works, drops.
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
2021 owners* 2022 and 2023 owners (including myself) mostly think the new software 3.1 on those models is good
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
Update is first of April 2023!
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 Год назад
🤔Two switches for four windows.....maybe they were trying to save weight
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
is the I.D.3 two doors? since the '4 is based on the' 3, that might explain the two buttons and toggle switch...
@chowsquid
@chowsquid Год назад
The explainer from VW was most people don’t roll down the rear windows. Or very rarely. I actually do it even if I’m driving alone if I want some air but not the wind in my face.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 Год назад
@@chowsquid yeah me too.....
@dannybriseno-yb3wj
@dannybriseno-yb3wj Год назад
Driven my ID.4 for 30k miles….catch up
@guse1219
@guse1219 3 месяца назад
If you want to ensure that you have software issues and UX issues, do a RU-vid review of a car.
@Adam_Rosenberg91
@Adam_Rosenberg91 Год назад
How do we get the message across to VW, that we WANT physical buttons, not this.
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
give them 1 star on new car surveys...
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh Год назад
Had software issues with this and never recommend it to anyone .
@scottvickery2057
@scottvickery2057 Год назад
A nice, but expensive, 2nd car
@CMCNestT
@CMCNestT Год назад
That it is similar to crappy ICEv is not a good thing.
@specialcookday
@specialcookday 9 месяцев назад
There is one true ID4. It's when Presid Whitmore gives speach 2 fight back on ID4 day against allen. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RuggerTinker
@RuggerTinker 4 месяца назад
Or maybe you dont know how to use the windows control. The update for the touch screen is awesome. Americans are so basic.
@roguedogx
@roguedogx Год назад
3:46 a.k.a. the stuff VW use to be known for.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver Год назад
The 2023 are great and the dash is much quicker. No CarPlay issues, don’t get an android lol.
@L3x4Pr0ne
@L3x4Pr0ne Год назад
The disaster of an infotainment system is a dealbreaker. You interact with it just too much for phones to be disconnecting, mileage to be that far off, OTA updates that don’t end up being OTA. It’s clear VW is still over their head in this department, which is nuts considering how long they’ve been doing this.
@Demobot1
@Demobot1 Год назад
Have you driven the 2023 model?
@MrNemo721
@MrNemo721 Год назад
Looks like VW didn't care about automotive reviewers' and consumers' feedback. They put the same crappy infotainment in the new Atlas and Crossport regardless even after saying they would change it for future models based on the ID4 backlash
@nothere572
@nothere572 Год назад
Those cars were in development and finalized before they said they’re going back to other controls
@gesp5151
@gesp5151 2 месяца назад
Yes, VW’s engagement and their retailers engagement was appalling.
@billsheehy1
@billsheehy1 Год назад
Great review but VW reliability is questionable at best. Sticking with my Lexus ES. Not one problem ever
@gesp5151
@gesp5151 2 месяца назад
My experience entirely- doesn’t perform as per technical specifications so I got rid (VW Cupra Born ev). My boss has just realised his id4 doesn’t do what they said it would!
@empiirik
@empiirik 7 месяцев назад
The electric car makers' obsessive approach to buttons is awkward and unreasonable. All philosophy seems wrong. Like Tesla, that strives to get rid of as many physical buttons as possible, which makes the driver's experience clumsy and unsatisfactory. VW's approach seems pretty unbaked on that. They have been thought like there should be some buttons there, but let's put them less than usual. Putting just three buttons (left and right and front and rear) for opening and closing windows is outright silly.
@rkalla
@rkalla Год назад
My takeaway from this review: "... at least it's terrible!" 🤔
@theprofessor8517
@theprofessor8517 6 месяцев назад
So did you guys just fire these "editors" / "contributors"? No followup on this video. What "software" update did you get? They have kept the USA stuck on 3.1.0 for a year now. No fixes. And there have been some recalls - especially with their crappy handles. The software is a decade behind and horrific. Also Munro has done a WAY better job of reviewing this car that you guys could dream of. Try harder.
@dnice362
@dnice362 Год назад
This isn’t AWD? Criminal
@normt430
@normt430 Год назад
But...Best consumption (kWh/100 miles): 20.8!
@nikolaospap80
@nikolaospap80 Год назад
So you driving an electric car and the 90% of the presentation is about the multimedia and touch buttons??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 Год назад
Everything about the inside looks like a poor man's Chevy Bolt.
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 Год назад
@japanwatchconnection go drive a Bolt and you may understand... this vw is horrid
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 Год назад
What a disaster
@pepeshopping
@pepeshopping Год назад
What a cheap cheap cheap interior.
@benjaminschneider4555
@benjaminschneider4555 Год назад
But the steering wheel does not fall off😉
@keangfamily
@keangfamily Год назад
The VW ID.4 Pro S is very nice interior and big glass moon roof with power shade.
@Kmelnuk1
@Kmelnuk1 Год назад
Tech is all that matters and ID.4 falls so short. It’s why iPhone dominates and so does Tesla! Buy the right one like millions do. Tesla all the way.
@Ibar3735
@Ibar3735 Год назад
"iPhone dominates"... I laughed out loud!
@Demobot1
@Demobot1 Год назад
Actually, iPhones don't dominate. The 2021 ID.4 is trash. The 2023 is worth the buy.
@justinstewart3248
@justinstewart3248 Год назад
@japanwatchconnection I put 26k miles on my model y in 18 months. No maintenance, flawless, easy operation. Best car ive ever had. No cae is perfect, but garbage is just you being a shit talker. I’m sorry your experience wasn’t great. Most people do find happiness with their teslas.
@dresmith
@dresmith Месяц назад
This car is complete trash. I luckily just finally wrapped up my lemon law case with VW so I’m more than excited to be surrendering this car back to them soon.
@johnnybravo5044
@johnnybravo5044 4 месяца назад
EV trash like all EVs.
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