The old saying still stands, "Stand outside the Ferrari garage and you wonder why they don't win everything. Stand inside and you wonder how they win anything"
Biggest bullcrap I've ever heard. Ferrari often had some of the best engineer, mechanics, drivers and more team members. They are the most winning team in F1 for a reason and the fact that an Italian team dominates the history of a UK-centered sport makes it even more epic!
@@giuseppemaggio5894 they have most wins because they are old. The same reason why white americans are more wealthy than black americans - they just started earning earlier. And ferrari is less charismatic team for me - what I see from them is ineffective management, poor drivers treatment, loads of political bullshit, low team morale, and besides that they have a special money bonus for being old. Pathetic.
@@giuseppemaggio5894 I totally understand your feelings mate, I am a Ferrari fan too, it certainly has a rich history in the sport and the talent to win as well but it's ambitions are killed by it's inter-team politics. If a team can't win titles with drivers like Alonso and Vettel, the most exceptional talents of modern F1 era, I feel like there are some problems within the team as well.......
Well in their defense they are the oldest and most successful team in f1 so it's a given theyd have the material for this kind of video. But they have an issue within their operation and stuff. They care too much about their image and tradition which hinders them. If they lower the brands "ego" they might just be back because the infrastructure is there, all it's needed is to get with the times. I hope they change it up for Charles' sake. It'd be a shame if Charles became the best driver never to win the championship.
The way they treated Kimi, the last person to win a WDC for them, and even more so how they treated Vettel and just threw him to the side, are perfect examples of why Ferrari deserves their 2020 performance
We nearly had kimi raikkonen vs michael schumacher in the same car? That would've definitely been an interesting teammate battle in an alternate universe
From what I've read is that Phillip Morris was willing to finance that 'Schumi, Kimi' dream team by devoting their entire motorsport budget to Maranello.
@@caioangelo_5328 Schumi would of won that for sure. lucky for kimi that he did retire tbh. so basicly massa signed for 2006 with the fact he new he was taking a big risk with no seat their for 2007
Gigsaw Soljier what? Kimi was running circles around Schumi in 2003 and 2005. The only thing that Schumi had in 2007 that Kimi didn’t - his political clout at Ferrari.
@@giuseppemaggio5894 really the stat should be percentage of races won. Otherwise drivers who retired or barely raced after they left would obviously be skewed to looking like they did worse after a long stint with the team.
I don’t think Schumacher was afraid of Raikkonen, although Kimi was frighteningly fast in this stage of his career. Schumacher was always a shrewd operator, and he knew that he always had the backing of the dream team with Todt and Brawn. With those figures no longer at Ferrari, Michael would’ve been well aware of the fate that befell great drivers before him like Prost, Mansell or Lauda. Kimi may not have beaten Michael to a title in an equal fight, but this is Ferrari; the fight is never equal. But up against anyone, Schumacher at Ferrari was a force to be reckoned with.
@@TheSt1092 seb warned him with his final letter to him, I hope his loyalty doesn't break his awesome career. I am a Ferrari fan but I hate this team right now, it is so far from the Ferrari of old
Ferrari also managed to ruin every pitstop Vettel made for the last five races, and at one point seem to forget he was even driving when they left him on softs for 75% of a race.
There's much more to Kimi in 2009 than this video tells imo The faces on the Ferrari pitboard at the Belgian GP when Kimi won are of pure shock that the guy they were dumping had won
Once they focused on Raikkonen after Massa’s accident he got results in that car that shouldn’t have been possible. I think he would have been champion in 2010.
I love how vettel, just cracked one joke after another about how terrible his car was, ferrari needs to be takin down a notch. Thats one person they cant pay to keep quiet, unlike the FIA.
The fact is: on multiple occasions Vettel was slower than his teammate. His opinion counts for nought. It will be a miracle if he finishes this season.
@@fintonmainz7845 Maybe tell Ferrari to make a car that actually suits their driver then? Vettel would still have beaten Leclerc in 19 if not for all the reliability failures and being robbed in Canada. Your red clowns make an oversteery car with a lack of rear downforce and then blame Vettel for all their engineering shortcomings. Everyone knows Seb needs a certain kind of car to succeed but if given that he's unstoppable. He had that in 17 and almost beat Merc with a much slower car. In 18, his car was ALMOST as quick as Merc's but it didn't suit him. Then Leclerc comes in and Ferrari build a car that suits his preferences, not a surprise that he beat Vettel. Although in 20 Seb had just given up on the joke that was Ferrari and just wanted to move on.
@@areebsiddiqui758 people like you just have no idea on how F1 works. Team build the fastest car, not the car that suits the fastest driver. The greats like Hamilton, Schumacher, Prost, Villeneuve, Verstappen, and Leclerc--you don’t see them ever tunnel focused on the car not suiting them--they get their head down and just drive the car to it’s maximum. People who chase car setups instead of focusing on their skill like Gasly, Albon, Kvyat, and Vettel, are all dropped to the back now. Now, butthurt Vettel fan, what do you have to say about your petty used to be 4 time world champion? Only as good as his last race, and the last race he had he finished P15
@@kenchen704 bruh. Sir Hamiltons car is set-up around him. The car must be predictable too. While being fast. That's why the SF1000 is mocked as a tractor. The SF21 is slower but no one is making the sBinnala jokes anymore. Because it's under control.
Berger Alboreto Alesi Massa Irvine Lauda(was buried with the ferrari suit) phill hill Surtees Schekter Andretti tambay Arnoux Capelli Ickx Regazzoni Reutemann Toxic anti ferrari attitude not surprised
that list doesn't even include Schumi or Lauda, good luck finding anyone of note well, Kimi Raikkonen i guess but it's not like he gives a shit about working relationships beyond getting paid on time anyway
Lauda admitted it was mistake because he could've won more championships but he also said that at the time, it was absolutely the right thing to do. Quite nicely explained to be honest.
I totally agree with poor Seb being the most awkward! Seeing Seb and how much more relaxed and loose he likes to be, Ferrari could of learned a thing or two about how to manage people. I think if the culture had been better for Seb, he would have had 2 titles with them.
@@Refusedlove Could say the same for Ferrari as well tbh. Though being a Ferrari fan, I hope the scuderia can get back on their feet and score wins again.
Who knows this time ferrari have learnt their lesson and will prevent this from happening I have a sneaky feeling that their 2022 car would be extremely good and also I noticed their strategies and pit crew show improvement . I know Binotto is bad but still I have a feeling the rest of team will deliver next year plus selection of Carlos was a great choice
@@mo215300 we said the same when Vettel was joining the team and we know how toxic the relationship became with the team. When it comes to the 2022 car being good it's very unlikely since the big 3 teams will be struggling with the budget cap. I agree that Carlos is a decent replacement but I don't think him or Charles are gonna get anywhere with Ferrari.
@@mo215300 they didn't change in 30+ years because of their ego, why would they change now. They will probably end up making another Vettel esq relationship with Charles and then drop him in the coming years.
its amazing how disfunctional teams are behind the scenes, Williams were equally messed up with firing drivers that were world champions and driving really talented designers away, newey, brawn, willis and many more, makes you wonder how they won at all
that's why i'm a Mercedes fan, they seem to be the one team that actually has their shit together when it comes to organization and being a working environment you'd want to be in, and the results paid off to the tune of 8 straight Constructors titles
Well in 2009 kimi got involved in FERRARI POLITICS Ferrari needed money due to the financial crisis of 2008 Santander a Spanish bank was ready to give some bank money but they had their terms 'we need Fernando in team' for advertising themselves with a Spanish driver The deal was signed everything was done
Thanks god we saw both of them in the same car and we discovered who fighted for the championship with a "tractor" meanwhile the other one couldn't pass the Q1
Don’t forget Ivan Capelli: a very promising driver whose career was absolutely destroyed by Ferrari’s atmosphere and its catastrophically beautiful 1992 car
It's funny now in hindsight reading about Todt managment being labeled as a problem by Alesi. Basically the only boss that made Ferrari look like a well oiled machine similar to Mercedes in the turbo era.
Maybe I can lift the mystery about René Arnoux's falling out with Ferrari and his complaints about his car's lack of performance compared with teammate Michele Alboreto. Gerhard Berger had an interesting story to tell about his year 1987 at Ferrari with that exact teammate Alboreto. During the year he always lost straight line speed compared to Alboreto, sometimes 10 - 15 kph. John Barnard who was the constructor of the car revealed a hair-raising story how he was being approached by Count Zanon, a big supporter of Alboreto. Allegedly Zanon offered Barnard money for intentionally making Berger's car slower. Of course Barnard refused but an engineer for the motor mapping obviously hadn't resisted the offer. He was fired afterwards and suddenly Berger's car had as much power as Alboreto's. The whole episode is described in Berger's book "Grenzbereich" and it wouldn't be a stretch of imagination that something like this happened to Arnoux as well.
@Stealth Leopard Kimi and Seb worked well together and they were both experienced enough to set up the car as they like it but their driving styles are almost completely different
I like Ferrari, they are iconic in all racing. But damn they are toxic as hell. Poor Vettel's 2020 of distrust and awkwardness was plain and painful to watch. Just hope same does not come for Charles and Carlos.
Absolutely true. Micheal bought Ross Brawn and John Bernard and a whole heap of Bennetton guys over. Full credit though to John Todt, he was the one who protected them!
Vettel just attracted all the news towards him by announcing his move to Aston and that was a fitting reply to Ferrari for giving him a miserable season. What a legend.
Ferrari : Only team to have won races with every single regulation and every type of engine. Mclaren and Williams : 2nd and 3rd most successful teams in F1 and they can't hold a candle to Ferrari Red Bull : Only won 4 championships with pretty much the same rules and only V8 and mainly thanks to Adrian Newey. Has treated countless drivers like shit. Mercedes : Despite being much older than Ferrari and being always involved in motorsport, only joined F1 in 2010 buying Brawn GP because they knew they would have got their ass kicked between 1956 and 2009. F1 fans : "Ferrari is so shit"
🏁Question of the Year!🏁 How long before Charles Leclerc becomes disillusioned with Ferrari and wants out? It's a fair question given that Mattia Binotto has become "Maurizio Arrivabene 2.0" to Leclerc's role as "Seb Vettel 2.0" but without all Seb's mistakes, with one strategy blunder after another and the reality of no end in sight, once again becoming business as usual with the Scuderia. 😔
As much as I love Ferrari, I struggle to defend the out of control politics and general team ethos. The cold hard truth is they end up sabotaging themselves far more than their attitude helps them. They're a very successful team that could, should and would be the ultimate F1 team if only they all decided to push in the same direction.
Yeah they run things very old fashionly with hierarchies and what not, im glad the drivers are now treated less roughly and sainz being the bigger man and not stirring up in the garage
Red Bull would be: -David Coulthard, crashed on his last race -Mark Webber, Multi 21 fiasco -Daniil Kvyat, replaced mid-season after crashes -Pierre Gasly and Alex Albon, replaced for poor performance
Ferrari is the reflection of Italy itself, and if it continues, it will only be a memory in history. It's really difficult to deal with italians to not say something worst.
I'll miss Seb in red, but it's best for him to go to a team that supports him and doesn't put so much pressure on him. But hey, it was good until 2019, right?
The hate is strong. If the Brits just bothered to dig for stories in their own teams. They won’t, of course, as they are all friends. Half of F1 journalists staff has worked for the English teams. The Alonso and Kimi stories are tabloid style exaggerated, and Alonso probably felt his relationship with Ron Dennis was quite a bit more awkward than his departure in 2014. Kimi shrugs it off, but The Race is deeply concerned for him how uneasy it most have been. The Vettel story must have been weird, but even weirder if he didn’t see it coming after being thrashed by the “rookie”. Awkward definitely, but more awkward than Ricciardo and Renault? Love your analysis and technical videos, The Race, but this is clickbait and shark food for Ferrari haters.
No Luca Badoer? 10 years of faithful service as a test driver, was awarded with a drive of a shit car, then fired due to media pressure and replaced by Giancarlo Fisichella, who did no better
Prost was right.. At Ferrari, in 2 years time there can be good or bad.. Such extremes are not good for continuity and consistency. God knows how Vettel dealt with all this shit.. 2015 - 3 wins 2016 - 0 wins 2017 - 5 wins 2018 - 5 wins 2019 - 1 win 2020 - 0 wins either Ferrari can be good or bad.. they can't make a car capable of winning certain number of races each year.. RedBull: ultimate young driver's career destroyer Ferrari: Ultimate Champions' career destroyer.
Interesting video.. you gonna do one on some of the other teams now as well? Given Ferraris long tenure in the sport they're bound to have a fair number, but I can think of several teams who treated their drivers just as badly...
They really know how to mess things up... I never really realised this, but the people who risked and achieved most for them always got an awkward send-off.
I feel like they treat their drivers as if they don’t understand anything about engineering or strategy and they are only good for driving and listening to orders. Ferrari thinks that because of their great legacy that they are incapable of making mistakes and that they always know what’s best. Which just holds them back.
"Posh losers". Once I've heard this expression characterising ferrari - I cannot think of them in any other way. And I personally think they spoil the sport, making it less healthy. If they just disappear from F1 taking their "political" shit with them, the whole sport would benefit. But F1 is run by old men, who are afraid of such moves, so we'all have to suffer.
Well Mansell not only "felt" the favour treatment of Prost by that happened. Mansell set pole in France. Prost asked to have his car for the next race, british gp. And Mansell came to the box and felt the car was different. Well they gave his car to Prost!!!!! So Mansell set up the car as higher as he could on qualy and runned to win in race time but he had gearbox issues and he had to retire. Then he decided he had enough of that sh*t. Also lets not forget when Prost landed at Ferrari Mansell really admired him (check his autobiography and the new one) and also Prost checked that there were some team crew from Williams (Mansell came from Williams) but those guys were signed before even Mansell arrived. So Prost thought this was a Mansell move to make the team his. While Mansell did not do that. So Prost made Ferrari sign many workers from McLaren to own the team. And oh boy if he did.
Rumors say that Ferrari fired Arnoux because they found out that He had a surgery in his right leg without informing the team about it, thus allowing Ferrari to sack him for breaking the contract on the terms of illness or health.
As always, Michele Alboreto got completely forgotten about. Ferrari made him lost the 1985 championship and then basically made him n.2 driver behind Berger. Their 1988 split was pure tension
Case in point, he was 3rd near the end of the Belgian GP at Spa when the engine failed. Instead of coming into the pits, he went round in a plum of blue smoke one more time (long lap, 7km), because "when the engine fails you like that, it's better to do one extra lap so you can feel how it disintegrates completely". That didn't go down well in the garage, but he was out for the following season anyway.
Ferrari has always been a team where champions are destroyed. Really hope that Leclerc and Sainz manage to get more out of the team and not have to focus on politics.
I have never liked Ferrari since I was little and I'll never be a tifosi no matter how irresistible the team is! I was a fan of Sebastian Vettel when he was winning races with Red Bull but that totally changed when he joined Ferrari in 2015! Why are most F1 drivers so obsessed with the idea of joining Ferrari to improve their records? I want Ferrari's records to be broken by non-Ferrari drivers, like McLaren did at the 1993 Australian Grand Prix!
You are being very kind to the Scuderia over the Raikkonen split... Raikkonen being Ferraris latest champion and won in 2007 in nearly impossible and glorious terms after trailing Hamilton and Alonzo for most of the season was subjected to a smear where any photo of him partying would be met by Montezemolo openly questioning his commitment to racing... Raikkonen not only got his seat back in 2014 but he is probably the first and only driver who also got an apology for his treatment proceeding his exit... I think Montezomolos criticism has aged very poorly...
I am just so tired of hearing all these clueless evil comments about Ferrari. Clearly you either have something against them or you don't know much about this sport so let me remind you a few things : 1) Ferrari is by far the most winning team in Formula 1 history. They are the only team to have won AT LEAST a single race with every regulation and every type of engines. 2) Their name represents a huge pride but also a lot of responsability, a lot of pressure. This is a big element in the difficulty of winning for Ferrari but every single driver that won a championship (or even a couple races) with Ferrari will tell you that winning 1 race or championship with Ferrari is better than winning 10 with any other team. 3) Mclaren and Williams are the closest teams to Ferrari in terms of numbers and prestige and yet they haven't won a race since 2012 or a constructor since the 90s. Ferrari won the last race in 2019 and the last constructor in 2008 but for some reason I don't see all the memes and bashing about Mclaren and Williams as I see for Ferrari 4) F1 is a UK-Dominated sport (the fact they canced the schedule of this WE due to the death of Prince Philip is the ultimate proof) and yet Ferrari (Italian) is the dominating team. This makes it all even more epic. If Ferrari was English, they would have won more than 20 constructors and 20 driver titles by now.
Everyone wonts to drive a Ferrari Cars and be a sucess but ONLY a few drivers can do something special with Ferrari team. Ferrari team is só political if they dont win the problems start for drivers. Always is a foult of drivers can't win the Championship. Ferrari is a Kills dreams of drivers. I,m a big fan of Ferrari but i see what happens. Alonso follow Michael shummacher steps in fórmula 1 and can't do the same. Alain prost and Nikki lauda have the same problems inside Ferrari. It,s a shame the politicy inside Ferrari team.
Ferrari will win when they stop doing things the Ferrari way. Evidence of this is when Brawn, Todd and Micheal was there. They isolated the team from Ferrari in Italy and became successful. They have very little opportunities since then. As a team and driver 2007. As a team maybe 2008. They should ha e won the drivees in 2012 with Alonso. They need to be a more open team if they are to be successful.
Even if Gilles Villeneuve didn't leave Ferrari, the backgrounds of his fatal crash in Zoelder could have led him to leave the team if he didn't passed on that terrible day. Also the short lived time at Ferrari of Ivan Capelli could make this list. Or the mentioned in the video Michele Alboreto.
His wife, Jo Anne said that Gilles would probably leave Ferrari at the end of 1982,given how he was treated there. Ferrari team principal at that time, Marco Picconini is the best man at Pironi's wedding, an event that Gilles wasn't even invited.That closeness means that there will be favourable decision in the direction of Didier. Once the trust is gone, then it's no good to continue at Maranello.
Ferrari is the epitome of why the phrase "too big to fail" is so funny and and not indeed factual at all... Idk how you treat someone like Prost and Vettel like that. I love Ferrari but Ferrari is in its own way right now. Binotto does NOT seem to be helping.
Vettel brought it upon himself, crashed 4 times in a row in 2018 and threw the title away. 2019 was embarrassing and 2020 was a train wreck. Even at Aston Martin, in his first race he was crashing again in a situation which should not happen with an experienced driver.
ferrari have won 1 non schumacher title since 1979, which was a lucky title needing hamilton to choke it away they came as close as you can possibly come to winning it but they should 100% regret the decision to go with raikkonen in 2007
Title could be put too "Italian way" as they refer things too in Ferrari. Only legend they have is good drivers they just didn't listen well enough during years.
Just one hint about the pronounciation of Sebastian Vettels last name: speak Fettel. That is how we Germans pronounce it. More often than not the letter "v" is pronounced like a very harsh "f"
Regardless which famous drivers drive for Ferrair, the name Ferrari always comes first, not the drivers. The drivers are replaceable but not the Ferrari name. If the drivers did not deliver good results, off they go. It's business, not charity. I think the only driver Ferrari really appreciated and treasured was Schumacher which he rightly deserved after winning 5 titles for Ferrari. I am not a Ferrari fan but I do hope that they finally can be competitive again this year and beyond
I get that James Allison left Ferrari in 2016 because of the death of his wife. But I've long wondered if Allison would have left Ferrari for Mercedes anyway to get away from Ferrari's dysfunction (and get to work with a team that was clearly going to win more championships).
