You should mention that there our people that are physically handicapped and they can not use compound bows . My younger brother was involved in a accident and has no use of one arm , but with his crossbow he can use the crank and load it himself and still enjoy hunting and most of all being independent in the things he loves ! Great episode .
Precisely what I was thinking. I’ve been a hunter for most of my adult life, with rifles and recently muzzleloaders. Now that I’m looking at retirement, I thought about getting out in the woods earlier during archery season. I have osteoarthritis in my left hand which would make using a compound bow quite painful, not impossible but uncomfortable. Using a cocking device, I can do this easily and painlessly. I haven’t decided which one to buy yet, but I’m looking at the Excalibur 340.
Good segment. I got into crossbow hunting because I'm getting older. Let's me enjoy the bow season. Which is out of this world to me. I could do the compound, but if you're sitting in a tree for 3 hours in the cold, I'm not who I used to be. And I've accepted that. So thanks to the crossbow! I still keep to enjoy the best season!😊
I really like your channel. I have been a bow hunter almost all of my life and now I’m at the point where I just cannot physically hunt that way and haven’t for a few years now. The crossbow is the only way I can still enjoy archery hunting knowing I’m not going to make a bad shot. People need to understand that most of the people that use a crossbow do so because it’s about ethical humane kills. And the ability to continue enjoying a sport they grew up with.
Just got into crossbow hunting this year and coming across your channel really made me glad I got into this method of archery. Keep the great content coming!
My crossbow is pretty much perfect for up to 30 yard shots. It doesn't shoot accurately around 40 yards, it will be off by 4 or so inches. That's why I hate when people say it's pretty much a gun.
+gavinsmitty23 that is consistent with my experience too. I think errors and problems are magnified with greater distances and less noticeable at shorter distances. All the more reason to enjoy up close and personal contact with your animals and keep those shots close. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
same as with a rifle, or a compound bow, or a blowgun (sorry had to repeat that, the parallels are exact) with a rifle, an inch off at 100 is 2" off at 200 in an moa rifle same with anything else, error at a given distance will increase linearly, all other factors being equal with a doubling of distance. With Archery gear, much more so than with a bullet, due to the increased area of the projectile, and the lack of velocity, the weight of the projectile, and the weight loading of the projectile, wind, is like Brylcream, a little dab'll do ya. In the Navy, applied physics was my thing. The science of ballistics, has so incredibly many variables it would drive Einstein to drink. Shooting and hunting are not for dummies, or the faint of heart. Fortunately, Luck, is a property that increases geometrically by the application of study, and practice.
My Barnett Recruit will shoot accurately out to the maximum range of the scope reticle (50 yards), but the flight time of the arrow makes shots past 40 yards chancy. Even a very large target like a moose can take a step during shots over 30 yards and completely mess up a perfectly aimed shot. Sure, I can hit a baseball at 50 yards...if it doesn't move. A big if.
Ha Ha there was a lot of resistance to compound bows by traditional archers when compound bows came out. There was probably a lot of resistance to spears from the rock throwing crowd..
Just bought my first XB an Excalibur Mag 340 and i appreciate and love your channel and videos. I moved from compounds in the early 90s and now at 53 wanted to get back into archery hunting. I find no shame despite some ribbing by others that think its so easy and unfair to hunt with one. They forget woodsmanship and and basic knowledge of getting within close range under 30 yards or less undetected. Technology changes but those hunting skills are a must, non negotiable and unchanging. 😊 Thank you for being an advocate and teacher here as Iam learning the ways of the xb force too😂 rock on DBB!!!
Rich, I have been watching your channel for awhile now and have subscribed to it as well. I really appreciate your well informed videos and and advice that you give. I have been an archery hunter since 1983. I started with a 50lb. recurve, then advanced to compound bows and now crossbows. I have never heard you give any advice or used remarks that were not true and factual. I also enjoy your humor and humility! Keep up the great work! Thank you.
Thanks for your videos. I really appreciate them. I was born in 1966 so I’m 52 y/o. I just started hunting at 50 and did well my first season in Ohio gun, but got skunked last year. I am planning to get a crossbow this year so I can hunt from September to February. As a hunter with little skill, it’s very hard to fill your bag limit or even get one deer if you’re limited to one week during gun season, even on your own property. Which is the only place I hunt. So, I will make no apology if I tag out this year with a crossbow. Thank you again for your informative videos. Keep them coming.
Good for you I as a former truck driver use to see tons of dear yearly and probably to this day ran over along the highways and byways. Especially up north I'm Texas and just ordered a Killer Instinct RUSH new 2020 be my first time using one myself. Good info here as well. Tks
I’m in my 50’s and my shoulder just can’t hold up to pulling n holding a compound bow anymore. Crossbow allows me to enjoy the sport I love. My son still is diehard compound hunter. Recently we went to a range that had 36+ targets set up at different ranges. At the end of the day he out scored me using peep sights n me using scope. Longer shots he was simply more proficient and this video summed it. Had I watched this video first wouldn’t talked as much crap w my son LOL. Thank you Rich for these educational videos!
Awesome video!!! I was unaware in Virginia that they authorized crossbows until a friend told me. Having had multiple shoulder surgeries at 43 years old can't draw a compound anymore. So glad I can draw my parker thunder hawk crossbow and enjoy bow season again.
I got an inexpensive Centerpoint Tyro for i think $150. I know it doesn't have the speed Bungie does, but 245 fps is enough to start. I only know enough to keep my fingers so far. I am amazed at the accuracy. Thank you for the videos and all the information you pack in them.
47 years old, new to hunting, new to crossbows. Not new to shooting, but I can use a bow to take deer on my land, and I can't use a rifle. Great video, keep up the great work!!
I recently turned 65 and just purchased my first crossbow, an Excalabur 340 TD. I can't wait to get out and begin learning the ins and outs of archery shooting, I'm not giving up my rifles just adding to them. Need to something different during covid up in the colld winters in Saskatchewan, Canada
Thank you for what you do. The Texas law was passed in 2009 and I wrote a thank you letter to the Rep. My rig last year was a cheap Jaguar, 20" carbons, and 150 grain bolt cutters. Worked magic. Keep up the great work.
+Jarod Munn and thank you for watching what I do! Texas is a state I want to visit someday and I hope you have great luck there. Glad to hear that the Jaguar's working out for you. Keep me posted this fall and good luck!
Heard it all from the guys here in mich aswell. I started with recurve 40 yrs sgo, then upgraded to compound a bear. Then after several compounds im on 2nd x bow..a recurve micro 355 . My love for hunting and being in the woods is just as strong as it was 40 + years ago. The simple fact is a xbow allows me to be a better hunter, just as any new weapon that is leagal to use in both bow and gun seasons do. Just watched a bunvh of viideos fro ata show alot of new Stands / Cloths/ Boots/ Arrows//bows Etc. All will be used by guys to make them better hunters , so lets not knock them fom enjoying it and gettig better...oh yea look at the up grsdes on cameras which I DO NOT USE ,but that is my choice..
Thanks for mentioning the crossbow coalition. I've been trying to figure out for the past three years how to put my vote in on crossbows up here in NY. Hopefully they will be legal soon for all of archery season just like how the compound bow became legal up here in the 60's.
@@Deathbybunjie thanks again I'm added to the group. Going to weaver's archery soon to pick out a crossbow!! Three hour drive to kreamer PA but well worth the drive. Happy hunting this season.!!
On a black bear hunt in Northern Manitoba, I was hunting with an Axion and had forgotten my cocking rope. My guide cocked it with his bare hands. Impressed me.
I just began crossbow hunting this year. I decided I wanted a longer hunting season than just rifle and bow/crossbow hunting allows that here in eastern Kansas. I hunt on my own land and no where is there a shot farther than about 30 yards in any of the clearings I have cut and maintain. I did a bit of research and decided I liked the idea of a crossbow because I am in my late 50s and time has a way of changing ones habits and practices. I have not yet gotten a deer but I just wanted to say I have gotten an immense amount of info on your RU-vid channel that makes me glad I made this choice. Keep up the good work. I look forward to more videos.
I bought me my second cross bow had one several years ago sold it . Now with my medical issue I can no longer pull my compound back so in my state I had to apply for a disable cross bow permit so I bought me a new cross bow this will be my first year hunting with it . thanks for the video`s
I have an old Barnett demon that has no scope. Just pin sights. I used it every once in a while if I'm in a really thick spot where my shots are inside of 15 yards. Other than that I'm usually using a desert stryker
I just got my first crossbow. I got to the point with my compound that I could not draw and hold it very long. I have killed a lot of deer with my compound. I wanted to try a crossbow and bought a center point 425 I love it. Your channel has been great for information about x bow,s. Oh by the way I am 65 years young and live in Georgia. Thanks
100% agree with #10. I have two daughters (age 8 & 9yrs) who have told me they are ready to go deer hunting with me. Without my crossbow I would have to wait another 5 or 6 years before they are strong enough to pull a 40lb bow.
+La Loma Whitetails very good point and good to hear about your girls! My daughter hasn't got the itch but when she does, crossbow time! Thanks for watching and thanks for your input.
long time hunter...new to crossbow hunting and stumbled across your video and instantly subscribed. I just bought a 2nd hand Parker Tornado F4 and was looking for information I should know. So I am hoping your channel will fulfill most of those needs.
I'm looking at getting into it for this coming year and I've been listened to your lot of videos and they've been very helpful keep up the good work bud
My very first deer hunting season was not until I retired and I really had the time. I wanted to hunt all season but after having both shoulders worked on I could not draw a compound bow. My first hunt was with my new crossbow and I took a very nice doe for the freezer. I mostly hunt does for meat and I have now taken many deer in the last 10 years. I have lost only one of all my deer, it soon started to rain and lost the blood trail. I take sure and close shots, the same as I do with rifle and handguns. And NY, we can hunt with a suppressed gun as well. I love Ohio! Keep up the great videos, we are never too old to learn something from some one else.
Awesome breakdown, Rich. As someone who's an AZ native and lived through through all of the nonsense, it hits particularly hard. I got my first mule deer (buck) at age 14 with an old borrowed compound along with an a deer tag that i got at KMart (KMArt, not Walmart). This was all circa 1992, and the AZ laws are trash, so when I see these madmen hurling it out at 100yds, oh man, I salute those boys, but AZ could do better. Those were shots I would never have taken. AZ looks at a crossbow the same way they look at a 30.06, it's absurd. It's sad. -YIOH
Regarding No. 10---I am a 74-year old newbie to hunting and bought a crossbow due to Marine Corps injuries preventing me from performing the required action of drawing & holding a recurve bow or a compound bow.
Good job debunking all these myths. #4 really made me smile. Last year was my first crossbow season in Virginia. I wanted to start hunting during archery season because there is less pressure and I still see deer in my pasture munching clover throughout October. During the season I saw several good size deer, but non closer than 50 yards, so no shots/harvests. Yeah, there might be more people taking advantage of archery season now, but you still have to be up close to be successful and the odds aren't nearly as good for taking the shot as they are in the firearm season.
Interesting in the "Crossbow use scope" chapter. I'm 50 years old and never was attracted to hunting until a friend of mine started putting some serious pressure on me to try it. I finally said, fine...but I don't like guns and I don't want to get a gun license and I don't want them in my house. Compound bows seemed too complicated. So a crossbow was the best fit for me to get into hunting. Best of both worlds to be honest. The elegance of archery with the precision of a rifle. Crossbows got me into hunting. I ended up winning a raffle last week at a locally owned hunting store, and the Excalibur Wolverine is an exceptional hunting tool for sure.
Outstanding video. I agree 100% on all points. Thank you for this and all the other videos you've posted. I have no doubt that all the knowledge I've gained over this past year watching your channel will make this coming season even better than last year.
Love your videos! Subscribed and all. I have never hunted in my life with anything. Always wanted too but life had other plans lol I am mid 30s now and just passed my hunters safety course and waiting for my field day (NJ) Tomorrow is the day I get my very first crossbow! I wanted to start with a crossbow for a few reasons. The main reason is I have Levoscoliosis, and the twisting in my back (done by the pulling of a compound bow string) really hurts me. The cocking of a crossbow is simple as I just have to stand up. The second reason is I love having a scope option. And tbh, the Third reason is your videos. So thank you for making all of these and putting all your time into giving first time hunters the knowledge we are looking for.
i live in southern ohio and ive always used guns I just got a crossbow 2 days ago and I'm starting to like it I have center point sniper crossbow and take most shots at 15 to 30 yards
Nice job Rick as usual. I just don't get why these people have fun talking smack about crossbow Hunter's but it's just like a hunter shooting a gun or a bow all take skill, time, and precision. Why do they care so much what you hunt with, a kill is a kill and hunting is hunting! Hey its easier to hunt with a gun but we don't talk smack on that. No matter what it all takes skill to do.
+joe coyle well put! The good news I think is that it is getting less common for people to bash crossbows as they become more accepted. I don't get nearly the negative comments now that I did several years ago. Very good points and thanks for watching!
Anytime buddy. I just hate when people do stuff like that, it takes just as much time and skill to hunt with these. Let me tell you I have done more studying and more shooting with a crossbow than my gun because of the fact that there is so much more involved you know this. Like arrow weight, what type of broadhead is best for your crossbow just the Minor example of a broad line of things you have to do.
+joe coyle yeah you don't just stop at Walmart and pick up some supplies and call it good, that's for sure. There is an endless amount of tinkering if you want to make it that way. I try to stick with what manufacturers recommend, as you know, because it eliminates a lot of that tinkering. But there is still an awful lot of "making sure" that needs to go on.
Well put together and very informative! It's a shame that this video wasn't available here in NSW Australia in the 1970s. The media in Australia did a anti crossbow campaign resulting in a total ban of crossbows in the 70s in Australia which was based on misinformed lies. Cheers Aussie Dave
wow sorry to hear that. i forget how good we have it here with crossbows, at least in a lot of states. no guarantees, that's for sure. thanks for watching!
Cecil Torres what are you talking about? You must be the Robinhood of crossbow hunter’s. There is no way you can be affective shooting deer at 80 yards unless you’re crazy nice on the crossbow. I would like to know what crossbow you’re using that makes you that confident shooting 80 yards. The bolts are shorter than a long bow and a compound bow therefore not as accurate in long distances. At long distances the slightest wind could cause you to miss 1ft to 10feet. There’s just no way I would ever take an 80 yard shot.
Add my name to the list of new hunters. Have target shot with guns for years, never hunted. Just bought a crossbow (to deal with groundhogs, unsafe to use a gun) and decided I should hunt deer as well. A friend has offered to educate me, but your channel is fantastic, thank you. Sadly, all the doe tags in Berks County PA are gone......next year I'll apply early.
Thank you for the video. In my area of southern Ontario we can only use archery equipment with a 3 month season. I have only recently purchased a crossbow as most in this area are "purest". I felt like the odd man out using a crossbow. With videos like the ones you provide ( I have been watching them for about 7 months ) I feel the I have the right tool for me. Thank you again for the information the you provide. I do have a request for a video, if you would consider. I know you prefer what the manufacture recommends but if you could provide a video with good after market suppliers ( Canadian suppliers would be great ). I recently was given a Barnett Ranger. The manufacture has discontinued all items with it and could not provide a good alternative other than E bay. This model is 20+ years old and I would love to refinish it. Thanks again for the great videos. Keep up the good work.
+Zom Survivor that's a great idea, I will give it some thought. I kinda like being the odd man out BTW lol. Good luck up there and thanks for watching!
Just to give you a little info, if you were ever thinking of coming up to Ontario ( the nearest WHU 94A& 94B hunting area for you I think would be Windsor and surrounding area ) The season opens Oct 1 and runs until Dec 31. 94B has one week for firearms Nov 6 -13.
+Zom Survivor I thought I responded to this but I don't see my response. Just so we're clear, I do like your video idea, and I really appreciate the information about what it's like hunt up there. Also, I have to admit, I kind of like being the odd man out when it comes to archery haha. Thank you very much for watching and for your comments.
Switched over to crossbow from compound do to the reasons you mentioned prior. Love your family friendly honest information. Actually feel although we are human bow shots and bow hunting comes down to a whole level of tactics and excitement beyond my rifle or even black powder. Other than follow up to dispatch ethically a 2nd shot should not be necessary. Stay within your limits (shot range).Other than movement in your stand blind practice is the only issue i have found. Example fly fishing over spin cast as one requires more finesse in my opinion. Have watched many deer at 50 yrds and passed on 15 if the shot wasn't right. So much more to bow hunting than choice of bow. Keep posting and I'll keep watching. Thanks for sharing your story and passion 😎
I just bought the new Vortex scope, good out to 100 yards. I would never shoot an animal at that range but I would target shoot it. It’s supposed to be zeroed at 40 yards but has lines at 20 and 30. I want to see what my new crossbow will do between the muzzle and 40. The manufacturer says that 6 yards is about equal to 40 yards for initial sighting in but you double check at 40 and fine tune at 60-80 yards. The final distance is adjusted by adjusting the speed ring on the scope to match the speed of your arrow on firing. I’m Mobility Impaired so I can use my crossbow in any hunt except bow only. That’s regular bow only. NM is a lottery draw for all big game hunts. But I can crossbow even during rifle and muzzle loader seasons. Plus, I ride a wheelchair for distance but I can walk short distances. This means ground blinds. Feral hogs are not big game but nuisance animals so they’re fair game. But New Mexico is desert country and I live just north of a section that the Spaniards called El Jornada Del Muerte, the journey of death. They let hogs loose everywhere they went but desert is hard on pigs except in river valleys where they were quickly hunted down by settlers, either for food or brood stock. But they’re a problem in the SE corner of the state.
I've been hunting with archery equipment since 1961 when I was fourteen. Started with a long bow, then a recurve for a few years until Jennings brought out his compound. Hunted with that for a few years until I bought a Martin Jaguar overdraw. Hunted with that for around twenty years until I had a bowhunting accident. I fell down a steep ridge and dislocated my left shoulder. as years passed, the injury eventually warranted a shoulder replacement. The doctor said that after that, I could no longer pull a bow. I live in Arizona and the fish and game dept here will issue a permanent crossbow license if you have a doctors verification. So, with that said, I can now enjoy "Archery" again with using a crossbow. And yes, I DO consider a crossbow as archery. I've built my own arrows for decades and now will continue to do so for my crossbow. Not that it matters but, I have a Barnett Comando recurve crossbow. Thanks for your videos. I also am now a new subscriber!
Great to hear, thanks and good luck out there! I have been to Arizona twice for javelina with no success. Third time is a charm! You live in one incredibly diverse and beautiful state.
I'm a bow hunter crossbow and compound ...if ya wanna be technical ..compounds bow is no different considering the site ....true bow hunting would be primitive hunting with no site at all so in a way compounds can be just as much argued as the cross bow ..I love shooting my compound and my crossbow ..I'm a meat hunter ..love the channel thanks
I agree that Crossbow should eventually be legal throughout archery season in NYS, from Oct 1st - reg season in mid November (instead of early to mid Nov, 2 weeks). I think the biggest challenge to that however is that there is no requirement for Crossbow hunters to take the NYS DEC Bowhunting certification course. Bow hunters will likely resent that and I doubt the DEC will renege and change their stance on requiring the Bowhunting course for Crossbow hunting. I was surprised that NY didn't require the Bowhunting safety course for Crossbow...sure, the mechanics are different for Crossbow but hunting style/strategy is pretty much the same as archery - shots are within 50 yds or less, similar techniques apply. To legally hunt Crossbow in NYS, you need the general hunter's safety course, muzzleloading privs on your hunting license (if you want to hunt during archery and late muzzleloading season, outside the reg season hunting sched), and you have to sign a certificate that can be printed online from the DEC's website.
I bought me a Parker Bushwacker couple months ago. It seems really good. Man you are a really interesting dude, I really think your videos are very educational.
Death by Bunjie Its awesome and the good thing about Parker bows is lifetime warranty, It's definitely a good buy..made is the USA also!!!! Also man if you ever want to hunt around Southwest Va or Eastern ky were all those Elk roam let me on know and we will hunt together! Thanks brother
Awesome episode and thank you so much! (And yes, I'm also a big Tim Wells fan) I'm more than happy to keep my expectations a little more realistic for a crossbow. I'm fine with shorter range as long as 1: we can still use it in our blind. We can move the food easily. 😅 I am not freezing my keester off in a tree stand when the giant Saskatchewan bucks are moving at -20c 2: its strong enough to hole punch its target. Its not going to flat out replace a rifle but at least its an option for those of us who physically can use a compound bow. Hunters not retrieving their kills?... Then get good at your aim and tracking scrub!.... (Sorry, savage moment) 🤣 I've dealt with people who complained about not getting their deer and admitting they hate tracking... 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I love tracking, and look forward to it every season if I get the chance. But you are 100% correct, I don't think a lot of people put as much energy in the tracking as they should.
@@Deathbybunjie I love tracking too! though knowing my rifle skills are good is satisfying too... finally something I'm good at in league with my firearm otaku brothers... (though my mom says im better than them, I try to stay humble) granted my target practice is squirrels so...
God Bless. I got a RU-vid channel myself. I’m a barber who’s been sober for 9 months I give my testimony and give a glimpses of my life to prove it’s never too late for God to change lives
Well, if you ever get tired of being an attorney you probably have a future as a radio broadcaster..you definitely have the voice for it. I have been hunting with and shooting firearms, air rifles and bows (traditional and compound) for many years but just recently have come into possession of a second hand cross bow from a friend..a Horton Legend. So, now a bit of a learning curve. Not sure what kind of scope to put on it (I hear you can actually use an air rifle scope, dunno ) or what attachment I need to put on the back of my pick up truck in order to cock the darn thing. Female arms and hands seem pretty inadequate upper body strength wise for the task lol.
Nice video. I hunt with the same Excalibur you have. Due to injury I don't use my compound. It is an outstanding weapon. I love it. Have killed 2 8pts. with it. 1 at 20 1 at 30. I won't shoot out past 40 except at a target. Compound bow hunters should stop whining and just hunt. We are all archers.
Good info Rich, advantages & disadvantages between the two are pretty much a wash. Still have to know your distances period! The storm over you is just arriving here now, be safe
At 1 point I was torn between some of the compound Bows because I actually like them, but chose to stay with the crossbow. I have seen these compound bow sites. They use what are basically just like our scopes, including But not limited to red dots, Magnification Lenses and eye peep clarifiers. IJS
Thanks for the great video and yes, I just subscribed to your channel. First off, I believe that crossbows open up a world of archery hunting to folks who have a disability, have time constrains to learn compound bow, or just want something easier to shoot. I also like the fact that I can go on to WMA public lands during primitive hunting season and I don't have to worry about getting shot by some trigger happy hunter. It is my first year hunting with a crossbow and I want to recommend an entry level crossbow for newbees. I bought the Crosman CenterPoint Sniper 370 crossbow. $250 new. RU-vid it! Yes, the same company that makes the Crossman pellet gun we all owned during our childhoods. This bow is powerful and accurate. I shoot 3" groups at 40 yards. The 370 comes with everything you need to hunt, except a cheap pack of fixed broadheads, to bring down that 8 point buck. Happy hunting & obey all state hunting laws. Thks Rich!
I have a compound crossbow with a 4X32 compact scope. 50 yards is exactly where my scope's center hairs are sighted in for. I shoot no larger than 2 inch groups at 50 yards. I have shot groups at 85 yard but the grouping increases to about 8 inches. I don't know if that's any different than a regular recurve crossbow. Mine is rated at 400 fps though. I also don't go hunting with the crossbow, just target shooting. I think I could comfortably make a kill shot at 50 yards with my crossbow. I live in NY and if you check out the dec.ny.gov site you'll see that crossbows actually have the longest hunting seasons as they were allowed from October 11th all the way through till December 3rd in the 2017 deer season. They're allowed during the last week and half of the early bow hunting season, crossbow season, regular season, and they're even allowed during the muzzle loader season. No other weapon in NYS has a longer deer hunting season. At least that's what I was able to find.
+1984sFinest that's interesting, but you can't use compound bows during all those seasons? here we can, but I know states like Illinois don't allow archery during rifle season, etc. I thought NY did. In pa we can use archery in any deer season.
It doesn't mention being able to use compound bows during any other season. Here's the PDF of the Hunting Season Summery right from the DEC site. www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/huntseasons17.pdf It doesn't say anything about using being able to use a recurve or compound bow during any other season other than Bow Season. I don't understand their thinking in allowing crossbows during all those other seasons but regular bows... It's NY, nothing is never going to make sense here.
Who's watching in 2020? just got my first crossbow I love your videos they're very informative! Can anyone tell me what's the minimum distance to sight in my crossbow is? it shoots 380 feet per second and is very accurate at 25 yards in my backyard! At what distance should it still be dead on like that?
Getting up close is what bow hunting is about. Even a high power crossbow is only comfortable for precision shots is 15 20 yards and a 30 yards is pretty long distance.
Nice video. The draw weight concerns that some folks have are simply their misunderstanding of basic physics. A compound bow may have a 60# draw weight with a 30 inch draw length vs the crossbow having a 175# draw weight but only a 15 inch draw or stroke length. Both bows are capable of generating nearly identical fps and ft/lbs of kinetic energy if the shooter takes full advantage of their set-up options.
+Troy Long yep in reality there is little difference between the modern crossbows and modern compound bows in terms of feet per second and kinetic energy. Very good point. Thanks for watching!
My Micro 355 has 280lbs draw weight, even with the cocking aide it's 140lbs by hand and that last 6 inches is brutal... I call my crossbow "Nut Buster"
I'm really enjoying these videos and just subscribed. A lot of us are ditching Facebook so I won't be able to follow you there but will be sure to follow you here .
totally agree. If anything, crossbow hunters try to get to the level the humane efficiency and accuracy of a fire arm offers, minus quiet; that is not a bad thing, quick, quiet, precise harvest is what all desire, no?
As we’ve all heard, the naysayers said that crossbows would cause a disproportionate harvest of the deer, it hasn’t. “”Crossbows will kill off all the bucks and have an unfair advantage.” Hasn’t happened. “Crossbows will increase poaching” nope. Not one of their concerns have been validated. Some say crossbows should not be part of the archery season. Crossbow kill numbers have remained in line with other archery equipment.
I live in Florida and the only reason I haven’t bought a crossbow is because you would have to have a doctors note to use it during archery season. You could use it during gun season.
There are more myths ,too. In my state you can hunt with a crossbow during archery season if you are over 60. You can also choose a crossbow as your choice of firearms during firearms season, but can't have both licenses. It's plain to see they need more archers making those decisions. As a long bow archer, I would guess that long bow hunters injure more animals because they are the hardest to consistently hit their target and require a lot more practice than compound bows or crossbows. It is the compound bow that has excessive range in archery.
The one highway I drive to work looks like a deer massacre I see about a dozen on my way to work not to mention there’s a lot of trucks so I see just massive blood spots
I used to hunt AZ, a 30 yard bow shot out there is really close. 40 or 50 yards was the norm for turkeys, deer, and squirrels out there, and that was if you got close (elk were a different story, they routinely got within 10 yards and messed up my hunts). The only time I shot anything up close was rabbit and dove hunting. I would never have made any of those shots with a crossbow.
I like your vids but do have to disagree somewhat. I have been archery hunting for over 50 years now. Also shot pro and worked in pro shop for years. Due to a injury from military, I had to stop shooting compounds and get a xbow. Hard day for a very dedicated archer. My current xbow shoots an average of 360 FPS and I have less than $450 invested, including the upgrade nikon xbow scope, additonal silencer and better string. It's a crosman centerpoint Sniper 370. Out to 65 yards I do not dare shoot at the same dot without risking robin hooding my easton bloodline arrows. I have taken down coyotes at 75 yards plus. As most bow hunting setups my shots in wooded areas are less than 35 yards or so. Xbows have several major advantages, you do not have to draw, then hold and hope the deer did not see you moving. They take much less practice and are generally more accurate out to longer ranges if setup properly !!! Also you can use shooting sticks or a caldwell pod etc.. cannot do that with a compound bow. No hunting compound bow is shooting at 360 FPS and at that speed with a hunting arrow the Kinetic energy (knock down or penetrations power) is superior to a compound bow. Only disadvantage is my xbows are a lot heavier than any compound bows I own. I totally agree with your statement about them being yet another type of archery equipment. Regardless we are all hunters and I think xbows are a great way to get disabled, youth, women or new hunters into the great sport of archery hunting. Keep making the vids brother..... DJ
1 year later, we now have a hunting compound bow that shoots up to 370 fps! Pretty crazy how tech moves so fast P.s. you can use shooting sticks with a vertical bow by resting the stabilizer on 'em... I've done that on a 140 yard (target) shot, totally cheating but it was kind of fun
Absolutely agree with you. I was a Marine rifle expert and marksmanship instructor. As a deputy sheriff I shot as a distinguished expert my whole career. With a compound, I usually am pretty good at the range. Most folks think are impressed with my accuracy. So I am pretty decent at sight alignment and sight picture and smoothly squeezing a trigger or smooth release. I was at an archery range in Denton, Texas. I was shooting my compound on the indoor range at 30 yards. The guy next to me, I was using a Ravin crossbow. We started talking and he asked me if I wanted to try his crossbow. I never held a crossbow before in my 61 years of life. My shots were dead center on every 2" dot at 30 yards. It was effortless to put it in the X-ring with nearly every shot at 30 yards. I am buying a crossbow simply because it will be easier for me to. kill deer if they come within range. And my bet is a crossbow is more accurate out to 50+ yards and depending on the bolt weight, broadhead and fletching design, a crossbow bolt is more lethal. Today we have most crossbows going out at over 400+FPS and a few over 500FPS. Mu compound is an Elite Impulse 34 at 29"draw and set at 55# of draw weight. With a 425 arrow set up, I am probably in the 270 FPS range(if that). With a new 400FPS crossbow, it would probably fling that same weight of bolt out at 350+FPS. And there is no doubt, out to 30, 40 yards, the accuracy of a crossbow is superior. Also, the game is not going to see you move in the draw cycle. Plus you can only hold on a target for so long with your compound before your target accuracy begins to fade as you fatigue. I would not piss away $800.00 on a crossbow set up if it would not make it easier for killing deer or turkey. I am not an equipment geek. Function over fashion for me.
@@johnbasiglone1219 Well said brother. I have worked in Archery and Gun Pro shops on/off many years. I'm also a Veteran and Thanks for your Service. I'm retired from Fed Law Enforcement with the VA Hospital, not a uniformed officer like you though ! You don't have too spend a whole lot of Money to get a decent Xbow. Unless you just got money to blow, then go for it. Not saying anything against Ravin Xbows, but $2-3,000 is imho outrageous. The Center Point CP400 actual has Ravin limbs and it retails for around $800, its a very accurate xbow. Once you buy a decent accessories you are going to have a little over $1,000 invested. My Xbow bolts are around 445 and it shoot them at an average of 368fps. O-35 yds same crosshair :) maybe a 1 inch deviation. You are correct a xbow is more accurate and lethal out too longer ranges. Good luck this Season, if I can help ya in any way let me know Brother.
@@BeetleBuns Man you got that right Brother, I have worked in Archery and Gun Pro shops on/off since the late 70's. Never would I have ever imagined a compound shooting over 350 fps. I seen the stab stick trick before, at one time that was illegal to use in most states for bow hunting. Good luck this Season.
For pass through... consider the aluminum or fmj arrows... The surface of these is slicker and creates less friction {or drag} when passing through flesh and lungs.
+J Martin that's probably true, but I've never had a problem with pass-throughs on a proper shot where everything performed properly. My next video has an interesting arrow that did not pass through though, I'm editing that now. Pretty interesting stuff. Hope you enjoy it.
Myth 1 is actually a fact. Crossbows do shoot faster, farther, flatter and are inherently more precise than compound bows when each type of bow is optimized to the greatest extent possible. Just look at flight archery distance records of compound bows vs crossbows if you don't believe me. Regarding precision, the difference in arrow length is a red herring, as bullets fired from rifles are much shorter still and yet achieve far superior precision to any archery equipment. Anecdotal evidence of the form "With my crossbow I'm confident in my accuracy out to X yards, while a compound archer shooting in completely different conditions is confident with his bow out to Y yards" does not mean "Compound bows are more accurate than crossbows". It just means each archer's shooting situation is different, and their respective equipment and skills are best tailored to the distances that they reasonably expect to shoot.
New to hunting and participate in all seasons, as a women I have yet to find a compound I can draw. The crossbow allowed me to be a part of bow season.
When I first started bowhunting I used a crossbow and loved it but I wanted to be like my Dad and use a vertical bow. Doctors said I would never be able to because of my muscle disease but I ended up using a vertical bow for several years killing deer with bows ranging from 30 pounds all the way up to 60 pounds. In 2014, I ended having some increased muscle difficulty and went back to a crossbow. I lost some hunting buddies in the process because they considered me a "poacher" and lazy because I refused to stop bowhunting. Crossbows are a great recruitment and retention tool.
+Jackie Newman that's too bad about their attitude, especially given the fact that you had overcome such challenges. That really is a disappointment. But I hope you're enjoying the crossbow now, and I get the sense that you have been. Man that is a great story though. I wish you equal success with a crossbow in the future. Thanks for watching once again.
i love how in NYB's first statement, at the end they say the Crossbow has the same effective range as a modern Compound bow, but in the second paragraph they contradict themselves and state that it has a "considerably higher effective range", so its not archery equipment. Which is it NYB?
Great vid! I agree that all those myths are false. I especially agree with number 10. My daughter LOVES the crossbow and there is no way she would get into archery hunting otherwise. And I love it too, because it's FUN!
I remember hearing news story about a poacher using a crossbow to illegally hunt deer. He said that the average crossbow launched arrows at 500 feet per second.
+David Castro there's one in every crowd, isn't there? A lot of people still think that. Most game agencies agree the .22 rifle is the choice of poachers though.
1. You don't have to draw back with a deer in range. (that movement or lack of movement is a big deal.) 2. They are a lower skill device. While the physics of arrow flight is one thing in practical application a pro-shop can sight your crossbow in for you, and you can shoot at 100 yards. That would take years of practice and absolute mastery with a vertical bow. 3. Statistically they are not bringing in new hunters, they are bringing gun hunters into bow season. 4. Why not just use it in gun season? ( answer the crossbow hunters are already hunting with guns in gun season.)
Funny how bow hunters moan about crossbows, yet few use a recurve and most all use compound. So much for the purity of the sport excuse. Crossbows are the top seller in Mich for deer season now.
Just got into crossbow hunting. I hunt compounds as well and my friend and I enjoy travelling to Illinois each year and chasing the bruisers on public land. I haven't fired a shot at one yet, but the challenge is awesome. I was given a Barnett Predator 375 by my uncle. The bolts are 22 black eagles executioners and I've been shooting 125 and 100g practice tips. At 40 yards on a windy day, my groups are horrendous. Is that normal? I'm talking about 12" group centered around the bullseye. I've worked on trying to consistently pull the rope cocker the same each way, I shoot from a bench with a sandbag and use a bubble level on the scope rail. The scope is a Ravin scope. I've checked all the bolts and screws and loctited them down with blue Loctite. Getting frustrated with it. Help! lol.
That is not good. If I'm sighted out to 40, I would expect nothing more than 3 to 5 inch groups on a windy day. On a calm day I should be able to hit a baseball consistently from 40 yards on a rest. I will say I've seen a significant difference between 30 and 40 yards. But wind at 20 yards should make almost no difference, reasonable wind that is. At 40 yards it will start to make a difference but it shouldn't be 12 in. What are your groups at 30 yards?
They are tighter, perhaps 4-6", but there will be the flyer in every group of 6 shots. The bow sat for two years with the current string and had never been shot on that particular string until I inherited it. Could it need tuning?
@@MrSamIAm39 yep, I'd have it looked at, should be more consistent than that, although it's not that uncommon to have that "one arrow" that won't hold true like the others, that's why you hunt with specific tested ones
+Warren Freeman not a bad idea, we will have to see you! Are you talking Columbus Ohio or Columbus Georgia? That's a line from Tommy Boy, one of my favorite movies LOL. I know which one you're talking about LOL.
Love the videos, especially the common myths one. Would like to pose a question possible quick video about how to find hunting clubs or hunting state land (things to consider) ideally I’m sure it’s best to find someone with private land but in the intern some suggestions? Thanks.
+Phillip Jarvis very good idea, and I do hope to address stuff like this before the next hunting season. I am looking for someone to do a good collaboration video with. It is not my area of expertise and I'm looking for someone who knows a lot about that stuff so I can really help people out. I'll keep you posted!
