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+Huckler Puckler We only pay for the money loan from CSN (Centrala StudiestödsNämnden, basically an agency that loans you money so that you can live in another city during your studies), otherwise everything is completely free. Also, we really don't have to "live on noodles", people who say that don't plan their economy enough. I have studied at a university more than 500 miles away from my hometown for 4 years, and I can often live on less than half of the money that I have left after paying the bills and the rent and actually purchase great foods, even flashy restaurant foods every now and then.
You say schooling is free in Sweden! But I bet you don't say that when they take all your money in taxes!!! I believe you should pay for what you yourself use! You bring your three kids to school and you get a $60000 dollar bill to pay! Why should I pay for your kids education; they aren't my kids!!!! It would sure make the parents more involved in their kid's educations!!!!! Now they could give a shit! But if you forced the idiots to pay out of their own pockets, I bet they would become more interested REAL QUICK!!!!! The people that aren't brain dead know, NOTHING IS FREE!!!!! The reason we in America like things to be handled on an individual basis is because governments are so corrupt! It's reaching it's pinnacle now, and the politicians are robbing the people blind! Nothing is being done because they ALL ARE CORRUPT and way overpaid!!!! No one wants to rock the boat because they all are guilty! The unions have to go!!!
So you're saying a child's chances of success in life should be dictated by the wealth of the parents? Brilliant! I see not a single flaw in that way of doing things! I don't get this whole mindset that taxes are the spawn of Satan. We get a lot of security from what we pay in taxes, equal education, access to healthcare, a safety net in case something bad happens and you end up in a situation where you'd have to sleep on the streets without it, etc. And it's not as simple as "oh you're out of money? Here have some free money to get by!", it's a complicated system where, if you want to get the money, you have to get a receipt for every purchase you make, and they will keep a close eye on what you spend money on. If you buy a new gaming rig with that "free money", you'll get in trouble, of you have too high living expenses, you may be forced to move to a cheaper apartment. The system is rather rigid, and is designed to keep people alive and not on the streets in case they end up in an unmaintainable situation. If you get sick there's another, more flexible system in place, but the last ditch "catch all" system will only keep you alive on the bare minimum. It doesn't incentive "being lazy and not working", but it gives you the opportunity to bounce back if you end up without a job or other means of acquiring money without having to focus on basic survival or turning to crime
@@garybulwinkle82 I disagree. Everyone benefits from living in a country where all have access to quality education. If you educate only the rich, everyone - including the rich - suffers, because you've created a situation where those with money and an education have to pay welfare to those who never had the means to buy their way into good jobs. When everyone has the same quality of education it's easier for society to accept raising the minimum wage to a living wage because we're all contributing to the same quality of life.
I’m from Sweden and I think you described the Swedish school system very well and I didn’t no much about the American school, so I thought this video was interesting🇸🇪🇸🇪💞💞
Being from the south part of Sweden we don’t need to jump into an isvak. Other differences are that you call teachers by their first name and no dress codes.
That's very true, I can't believe I left out the calling teachers by their first names! I would say dress codes are relatively rare in the states except for some private schools!
I've never jumped into a hole in the ice of a frozen lake, despite being from Västerbotten. (For those who doesn't know of Västerbotten; it's a region in north Sweden)
ja men dom får man ju inte själv som barn. då kan ju ens morsa köpa vafan dem vill för att det är ju deras pengar. men går man på gymnasium så får man pengarna helt själv.
Very interesting! Here in Ireland it's the same in regards to the teacher/room set up. The students stay put and the teacher moves. The rational is that it's less disruption and more time efficient to have 1 teacher walk between rooms than have two bunches of 30 students milling around in corridors changing rooms!
In sweden it's totally independent on the schools, in my old old school we had certain classrooms for certain subjects. So the science teacher stayed in the science classroom and so on. So that doesn't account for the whole swedish school system.
When I went to school (in Sweden) in the 80-ies and 90-ies the students would stay put for most classes up to and including grade 6. Except for classes like PE, home economics and shop class. Grades 7 and up the students would be the ones to move. Things might be different now or just different in different schools (3xdifferents!!).
@@DivineHellas Swedish schools really are more fair and everyone that has good enough grades will be accepted for university no matter their economic situation
@@Uddevalla00 Swedish schools are not more fair at all, they carry the exact same factory slavery concept like all other schools around the world no difference. If you believe the fact that they Universities being free has solved the problem then you couldn’t be more confused. No place in the world has there yet existed a fair education system not one, not one place in the world has there existed education yet only indoctrination, it’s sad but true.
The classroom depends a lot on what grade it is. Lower grades tend have fixed homerooms with the teachers going to the classroom, while higher grades tend to have subject rooms where the class changes room between subjects.
dont its cold can be lite depresing at whinter so "SL" The company that owns all buses and trains has put anti-depresing lights on all buses and trains
11 When you are in the 9th grade you get to pick what subject and school you want to study during High School years, take me for example. I picked "video game development" meaning that along with usual subjects such as Swedish, English, Math, Biology, Physics, PE and so on along with Programming classes. 12 While we go to College for free most people apply for student loans to pay for apartments and some school books, that we then have to pay back and we get about 1000$, 700 of which is loan while the other 300 is just free money, well free for us it comes from tax payers 13 It doesn't cost money to apply for college
The Swedish student loan that you can apply for is managed by a state controlled organisation called "CSN" or Centrala studiestöds nämnden. We don't have any interest on it either so the state doesn't try to scam you for more money than you borrowed, and if you can't pay back you can ask for a smaller monthly fee. You can also ask for a leap year in paying back and in more extreme circumstances you can even ask for a full write of.
@@user-dk3vt you never have to pay.the bidrag back but if if.you go for the loan you will have to pay it back. Also, its.made in such a way that if.you get money to pay it all off you cant. It's based on your income and you usually pay just about a little.more.than interest so it takes a very long time to get rid of.
Kapten Apten well where i live, the school district provides free breakfast and lunch meals for public schools. From elementary through High School. Teachers and staff have to pay a small fee for meals if they want to eat at the school or you can bring your own breakfast or lunch. Private schools are a different story. Have have to pay tuition fee every month plus purchased a meal plan for the. child
About the thing that teachers move classrooms, that is actually not true in every school in Sweden, for me, the students are changing classroom for every subject. And each teacher has their own classroom, so it’s basically the same as in America.
Hey man! I like your channel! It's very interesting to hear your experiences and your view and differences between Sweden and USA. I'm a teacher myself so it was kind of a pleasant surprise to hear you're a teacher as well. I teach music though. The only PE I do currently is clicking the mouse or playing the piano :)
Hey Stefan! I like your videos. I wish to say thank you for being such a good ambasador for Sweden. ❤️ Keep up the good work! Greeting from Rex in Sweden.
Apparently there is like less than ten countries in the world that think that free food for children is a good idea. If you watch american shows like the Simsons you can probably remember a scene where the bullies take the nerds lunch money.
Well in some countries such as Japan the food is not free at all, so the students have to bring lunchboxes or they'll have to pay for it in the school cafeteria. We Swedes are quite priviliged, but it's rarely acknowledged sadly.
Yeah i got the feeling that many kids in school just complained about the food quality just to have something to complain about. Yeah sure its not a 5 star resturant lvl of quality but it wasent as bad a ppl said.
If it hasn't changed recently, I believe that only Sweden and Finland serve totally free lunches daily to their students. A meal (at least in Sweden) should cost 13,50 Swedish crowns; about $1,65 per student. Since there are always people eating out or eating very little, the small budget evens out for the most part.
I'm Dutch studying to become a teacher in Sweden as well :D it feels great that there is somebody like you to help me out and help me gather information. Love ur vids man keep em up :)
My school here in sweden is actually has the same schedule system as the schools do in America. And oh the ice water thing is not so fun haha I did I it last year and yeah it’s cold, but it’s good to know! Right? I like the video btw, very fun to see things from another perspective👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome content sir, just discovered this channel and its very entertaining. Your students must be very happy to have you as their teacher. :) Bra jobbat!
And with all the immigrant these days teachers quit because the immigrant kids just dont give a fuck and make a lot of noise and disturb and what not. Its really fucked up compared to only say 5 years ago before all this.
dtiydr - Sweden should not have welcomed so many refugees and immigrants who aren’t willing to integrate, hopefully Sweden will solve this problem asap.
As one of those longtime substitutes i agree that the bonding time at lunch is really nice. Really helps you understand the kids you're working with and gives you a chance to earn some respect with the more problematic children, making it much easier to work with them while in class. Just spent a year in college and my god i miss my class, they were all absolute treasures.
Love your video! As a Swede I'm very proud of our educational system because there's so many benefits from taking care of the students since they become educated adults who then end up paying back to the country, both tax wise and work wise. Growing up, we had a whole day called "miljödagen" (environment day) each year where we learned about the traffic rules, how to signal and ride your bike, how to recycle and how to best take care of the environment. We either borrowd bikes from schools or brought our own to test driving in public, which we did all the way through elementary school. Really appreciate your videos, gives a whole new perspective!
kids complain about everything because it doesnt taste like their mums homecooked food haha! ;P and fair to say, the food quality and taste varies a lot from school to school and who/where it is made. but as an adult i find it rather good most of the times (once i were one of the complaining kids;) )
Heh, I remember bathing in a frozen lake as part of school. Thinking back on it, it's actually kind of interesting, and I could see myself doing it again. I remember pumping myself up as I watched everyone else take their turn and jump in, thinking that I'd be tough and that I'd jump in and say "This isn't so bad!". And then, when it was my turn, I jumped in, and I remember thinking "Hey, this actually isn't so bad!". But then I discovered that I could barely speak. And then I felt the cold. I mean, I really felt the cold. It shocked my body so much that I had a very hard time forming words; in fact, I felt like I had a hard time merely breathing. Luckily, there was no risk of any harm coming to me, as people were just one meter away, and I had a rope fastened around my waist. That rope was also a detriment, actually. Not to me, but to one of my classmates who tried to jump in without the person holding the rope being ready. They didn't stand close enough to the hole in the ice, or the rope wasn't long enough; regardless, the end result was that the rope tightened and my classmate tripped and fell in face first. And we caught it on video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d1UuSL54Ru4.html
I also want to tell a story about the tacks in Sweden! A former co-worker to my dad and he was American. He were always quite skeptical to the tacks in Sweden and he where always talking about how much money he would made in the Us. He got a son and he got handicapped. When they were at the hospital to do a surgery he thought when he saw the money it coasted the hospital that he where forced to pay 2 million $. When he got the check it was only 50$ and that was the food and the bed that he and his wife had on the hospital🏥
Fortsätt jobba på din engelska. Du har mycket potential. Checka kanske grammatiken lite nästa gång så att du inte har en massa jobbiga jävlar som ska komma och klaga på stavfel mm.
I actually appreciate that there is a nuanced evaluation of the student's learning rather than a grade being based on a numeric percentage of questions they get correct. That doesn't necessarily give you the best understanding of what a person's comprehension level is.
Hey Stefan, I am a teacher and have a few questions..I am curious..how did you teach before you knew Swedish? Did they let you speak in English to the kids? How did you find the school to teach at and how did you decide on which town to go to? I have considered teaching at international schools..but you are teaching at just regular state schools, right?
Kul att höra hur du ser på Sverige i olika perspektiv jämfört med USA, det är många saker som man själv inte har tänkt på. Bor också i Norrköping, fint att se strömmen och universitet som du filmade👍🏼 lycka till i fortsättningen!
Its Good to hear about the difference between the us and the swe systems, considered for a while to study abroad but the tuition fee and living costs was so very expensive so i chose to go to university here and currently taking my teaching degree 📜 thank you for sharing 👏🏻🍰
It deppends on the school you go in and in whitch grade. In the beggining you have the same class room all the time. But when you come to 7-9 you switch rooms. and teachers are in the same room. And still deppends on whitch school you go in. Same when you go in college. The state gives you a bit off free money but the rest you take in lone and have to pay back. And that can take Many many years. Moste people are dun paying off when they are 50 years old. You talk like everywhere in sweden and swedish people are like the same and we are not. Go to Göteborg and there are very friendly open people. Go to more like smaller towns and live there and we greet each other. Yes we are more invert maby and in stockholm everything is more expensive then other places in sweden. But its becouse if you live in stockholm you get more payed then is you live in say Linköping. A pizza in stockholm resturant maby 200kr but in Linköping 85kr. And one more thing. Meny people in sweden dosnt dress nicley everyday. Maby in stockholm. But not everywhere. Sorry for the long comment. But i feelt i have to say something.
A pizza in Stockholm costing 200 kr? Are you serious? The apartments are more expensive due to higher demand and the grocery shopping is a bit more expensive than going to a mediumsized city due to most stores being ICA nära and other smaller stores. Other than that, you can find pizzas that are way cheaper in Stockholm than most other places, but you can also go to a real Italian restaurant and pay 200 kr for a pizza. The variety of restaurants and entertainment are not comparable with the rest of Sweden, so you can find one or the other there. You do have a good point in how different people are in Stockholm compared to basically everywhere else in Sweden and how the loan system works. Also, the salaries are higher in Stockholm, but to be fair, the slightly higher salary is completely devoured by the cost for renting a decent apartment.
Oscar Weberg Yes i agree about the pizza and salary. Deppends where you go offcorse, i have just been in stockholm few times and my first pizza there cost almost 200kr i was in chook. :P and in small towns some things are more expensive to fore milk in exampel. Maby 2kr more somewhere and 2kr less other place. And offcorse the apartments are more expensive becouse off the atraktivness of them. And just becouse its in stockholm. Every city has it own balance maby. Thank you fore youre input :)
Where did you eat pizza?!?! I live in Tyresö just 20 min outside "big" Stockholm and I dont think I ever payed more than 79 kr. for a Pizza here, and I have a friend who used to live right in the middle of Stockholm, and when we went for a Pizza there the prices varied from 84-95 kr, depending on what you wanted on it. I guess it is more expensive living in the thick of the city (I never tried it and I never want to), but if you move just 20-30 minutes out of Stockholm (like me) you'll find a whole bunch of larger stores with cheaper prices on food, and living out in the suburbs of Stockholm is no worries, as the busses/trains go quite frequently and from a lot of locations (thoug the prices are too f-ing expensive, I wont stick that under the rug), and you're going to use the busses/trains a lot anyway, cause driving a car in the city, finding parking (and paying for said parking) is acctual hell. I do agree on the clothes though, even if you see a lot of nicely dressed ppl in Stockholm (me myslef always have dress-shirt and vest for school (now uni, but I used to in High Schol/Gymnasiet too)), but a lot of ppl only wear jeans and a t-shirt, and whenever I'm not at schol I just wear sweatpants and whatever shirt happened to be on top of the pile, and a lot of ppl wear what I prefer to call "hobo-clothes" (i.e. ripped clothes)
In my school ( Vet inte om andra skolor har detta :P) the last year students go 2 different countries in europe. Don't know why we do this but It is really cool.
That seems really cool! My school back in the US had an exchange program to Germany. I always think it's awesome when students get a chance to see other countries and cultures.
Is that just your school or every school? I'm in Ireland, and some schools take part in the Erasmus program and do exchanges with schools in other EU countries. France, Spain etc. etc.
Actually we’ve got that kind of thing in our school too, I’m going to France in may and I’m really excited about it:) my exchange student is coming here (Stockholm) in like a month and I’m sooo happy
Det handlar nog om vilken årskurs du jobbar i! När jag jobbat i lågstadiet har vi pedagogiska luncher där två i arbetslaget äter med barnen. Skolan jag jobbade på införde vid nyårsskiftet gratis lunch - förutsatt att man äter tillsammans med barnen i matsalen. Sen kan man alltid köpa lunch och äta i personalrummet! Men pedagogisk lunch ska vara gratis, men olika skolor kan ha reglering på hur många i personalen som får äta med en klass samt kan det bero på hur gamla barnen är. :-)
Min pappa är resurslärare och äter med eleverna varje dag, s k pedagogisk lunch. Han betalar över 30 kr för lunch. Han har ej möjlighet att äta lunch på egen hand utan måste äta med eleverna.
I lived through the swedish school system when they switched from the ’points and percentages’ to the one we use today, reply if you have any questions about how it affected me as a student!
rand0m0mg G/VG/MVG? Det var inget poäng- eller procentuelltbaserat system. Det var uppbyggt på samma sätt som systemet vi har idag, bara med förra betygssteg.
Nej, när jag gick i skolan hade vi ett mycket mer matematiskt betygssytem som fungerar ungefär som det som usa använder sig av idag, detta var det relativa betygsystemet. jag är gammal och gick på gymnasiet när de bytte från 1-5 til det nya , detta var på nittitalet
rand0m0mg Det var det jag funderade på om det var 1-5 systemet du menade. Men oddsen att träffa på personer som är äldre än 30 i kommentarfältet är inte så stor, därför jag antog att du menade G/VG/MVG, ber om ursäkt. Däremot så undrar jag faktiskt hur det var, och vilket system du föredrar?
I'm hoping to do an exchange student program from Canada to Sweden next year, so these videos kinda help me get a feel for what to expect and what to look forward to! Thank you :)
Hey Stefan. I did not read all the comments below, so bare with me if this allready been answered. I don´t know if you are familiar with what politicians and I guess a lot of teachers in Sweden complain about the amount of planning, and all the admin stuff they need to do? You seem to like that, and in the US there are not as much time for that. Is your undertanding that this amount of planning is good for the teachers, and that the actual teaching you do is better due to the fact that you had time planning for it? Why I´m asking is because I hear the opposite. Teachers should teach, not do so much admin etc. Teachers should be with the pupils more and so on. Would be cool to hear your point of view. This is a major fact that "we" actually scare people off from becoming a teacher due to the fact that it is a lot more, than actually teaching.
Its so fun and interesting to see our school system from another point of view and now I actually feel more grateful for it then before! And also, I just love to watch these videos of things that I take for granted here in sweden🇸🇪🇸🇪
I realize that you probably don't have a ton of data to make a video about special education in Sweden, but I'd love to see one in future! Especially if you can compare and contrast like this one how it differs from the US to Sweden. This video is very helpful! Again, would love to see one in future about how Sweden handles special education.
Earth+ as someone that was bullied here in sweden i have to say it’s not too bad. But the teachers are worthless when it comes to bullying and they do not punish the bully.
Yeah but sadly in the US bullying is romanticized because of the government just being more of a reality show with catty fights for cold hard cash than a bunch a leaders coming together as one.
It depends which school you go to? My cousin lives in Sweden and their teachers have their own classrooms and they go mostly to other classrooms for each lesson and the grades, She said she have never heard about the green yellow red thing it’s like if the student deserves an A then u can get it, it depends on how u , write our if u explain the right term of what the question is then you’re most likely to get an A, and she told me that it’s a guy in her class who is crazy intelligent and without doing an exam he gets an A + and in Sweden teachers don’t give out A+ and it’s cause he is showing that he knows and just paying attention,but it’s probably how ur school is as I wrote before it depends on which school, and she also said if ur in grade 0-6 you mostly stay in the same classrooms and 7-9 switches classrooms all the time and the teachers gets a own room. Or is it just Gothenburg!!!
Nothing is "free" as You pay it with higher tax as You mentioned. Still I think that is a better and more "fair" system for the average person, the majority. As far as private schools being "free" beside the taxes funding it. There are hidden or under the table tricks some use. Like the fancier private schools of gymnasium and higher, like "Procivitas" usually get more applicants than they can take in. If their parents come from nice neighbourhoods of course their kids magicall get a priority on the lists. Of course not officially but most knows how it works. That way it's also easier for the private schools to keep showing a good result, as their students come from the "better" background pool of students, so the schools come off as better at teaching kids and then more parents wants their kids in those school. It's a spiral or circle that feeds itself. If You try to apply to such schools and don't belong to the "right" clientel You have a smaller chance to get in. Even tricks used for schools in nice areas. Like for basic school (class 1-6) they simply blame that they don't have space for Your kids and claim they reserve free spaces if people move in new to their area. As they must always have space for pupils living in their area. I wanted to move my son to another school, than the one we got assigned for him, and all the schools in the "fancy" areas always turned us down blaming it on exactly that. The only school that by law must provide a space is the one You live closest too. So the "free" choice of school is more or less a myth. We live 50 meters away from belonging to a "better" school as he grew up. Now he's past the class 1-6, so now the kids from the "fancy" areas are in the same class as my son anyway as their area don't have a Gymnasium for class 7-9. Social class division do exist in Sweden. Anything else is a myth. The gap between social classes did even grow alot during the 8 years we had a right-wing government. The current left-wing government has done nothing to change that. They don't even have own majority rule, so they don't do much but all just stays the same. The gap might not be as huge or obvious as it is in the US...yet...but Sweden is going towards the same type of division in society.
Thank you for giving me a perspective about the differences about SWE Vs US through out your vids. I know that some things are better here in Sweden than in the US but at the same time I feel that we have alot to learn about the more market free society you have in the US and that a more amalgamated way of thinking of our two societies would be beneficiary.
I was so confused when you started talking about the grades and mentioned the E grade.. Then I remembered that oh yeah.. they changed it. When I went to school we had the grades "IG , G, VG and MVG" it's basically "didn't pass, just passed, did a good job and did a great job" loosely translated. The grade below ours were the first to have the new system with the letters. I think the way they graded us were pretty similar to how it is now though, just that now you have more grades to choose from.
Actully the food in my school is not very good. Actully the budget for one meal per every student per day in sweden is around 10kr (1 usd) and the prison has twise that per day for inmates around 20kr (2 usd)
This is really interesting! I'm studying to become a teacher here in Sweden. I have to ask you about sports and music education in the US. If a Swedish student wants to participate in a football team, cheerleading, an orchestra, film club etc. they have to do that at their spare time and it's not a part of school. But in the US you got different school competing against each others like swimming, football, debates and so on. And there's also chearleaders and school orchestras to support their teams at these events. This seems like a really cool benefit compared to Sweden. Could you explain how this works and how it's organized? And if you're for example is a really good sports man, this could lead to a scholarship, or how does that work?
Linus Gustafsson det finns ju dock sportgymnasium och högstadier här, men det är ju inte alls samma sak som i staterna. Där är det ju verkligen varenda high school!
I min högstadieskola hade vi fotbollsklasser, dansklasser och matteklasser. Det går självklart inte att likna med USA men hela skolan var och supportade fotbollsklassen under deras matcher och vi i dansklassen hade uppträdanden och matteklassen tävlade med andra skolor osv.
I've attended 2 middle schools and 4 high schools . In the USA sports / dance/cheer leading are extracurricular or done before/ after school. Band/choir /orchestra is a class you can take in school but you also do extracurricular as well. Some sports get more funding like (American) football for better fields etc because in some places its like a damn religion and almost always the music/arts get the pocket change left over. In some places you can take photography classes in high school but usually its the basics aged 11-18 or 19: math, science, history, political science, health, PE & art, with 1-2 chosen classes. PE is something that they do so that students don't get fat(ter) from sitting all day ^_^ . If you are really good at sports your last year of high school you could get scouted to play in college and get a scholarship but its very hard to get scouted if you attend a very small school in rural areas or live in a poor area - and even then you have to place really high in state competitions and get high grades to stand out. Each school gets better funding if its in a better neighborhood and has higher property taxes.. so anywhere there is poverty and or crime the less funding and the less likely you are going to get scouted . hope this helps answer some questions you have.
I'm American when I was in high school during lunch 38 yrs ago a 3rd of the kid would be outside smoking marijuana. That went on for years before I was there and a few after. But them days are OVER
The worst part of the whole is jumping thing for me was standing on the ice with only socks on waiting for my turn... I mean I was pretty calm with the water and I went out pretty easy but my feet wouldn't get warm for another 20minutes in the sauna.
ZuperWilmzz honestly (sometimes, I'm speaking from my personal experience) more like "I want to give you an F but if I did that I'll be forced to do something about it"
