Wow. You’re really nitpicking on this one, so I’ll add a few of my own. 1) it’s Brannon Braga, not Brandon Braga. 2) Star Trek (2009) featured red matter, not dark matter. 3) The energy ribbon and the nexus aren’t the same thing.
You took the bait. To get clicks and comments: get a minor detail wrong. People can't help themselves and correct in the comments, thus gaining comments and the algorithm gods are happy. More ads, more money.
Number 3 they actually address in the video anyway, she says (paraphrase) "if the ribbon is the connection to the Nexus, how can the Nexus dump them anywhere anytime?"
The wasted potential of the Nexus really is the dumbest thing in the movie. Imagine if Kirk suddenly found himself with Edith Keeler (Joan Collins) instead of some sillhouetted nobody named Antonia.
You missed the fact the "Killing" the star by stopping fusion would not change the mass of the star, therefore the gravity would remain the same, therefore no change in the path of the nexus
Data and Picard address this in the film(in stellar cartography) by stating that when the star explodes it creates a shock wave which changes the nexus' trajectory.
Gravity would remain the same everywhere except inside the former radius of the star - where things were previously being pulled in many directions. I'm under the impression that gravitational lensing would behave differently as well - but I don't know how.
The movie has it backwards, the nexus should be deflected by the gravitational field of the normal star but when the star explodes and the nexus is inside the exploded star it should travel in a straight line because the gravitational field inside a spherical shell has a net value of 0.
In one of the Star Trek novels, it is revealed that Q created the Nexus ribbon from a solar flare during his "childhood" and forgot what became of it. So maybe this is why the Nexus can create these paradise places from those who end up in it. It is an extension of Q's power.
My reworking of the ending for this movie (written many years ago): The movie is unchanged up until the point where Kirk and Picard leave the Nexus and confront Soran. At which point, they ultimately fail to stop the mad El-Aurian, the missile still goes off and they wind up right back in the Nexus. “Well,” Kirk remarked, “that didn’t work.” “We’re picking the wrong time period,” Picard surmised, “but I can’t just throw him in the brig without some justification.” “Wait a minute,” Kirk said, “didn’t you say he was on the Enterprise-B?” “Yes, when it encountered the Nexus, and you were…” Kirk ignored the last bit, “Captain, go back to whatever point you want before this mess started. I’ve got an idea that just might fix everything.” Picard paused, then said, “I hope you know what you’re doing.” “So do I.” The two men shook hands. “Good luck, Captain,” Picard said. “You, too, Captain.” The screen goes white, as we leave the Nexus for… Sickbay on the Enterprise-B. A frantic and bloodied Soran struggled with Chekov. “No! Don’t you see, I’ve got to get back!” A hand clamped down on Soran’s shoulder and spun him around. He found himself staring into the intense eyes of Captain Kirk. “Come with me,” Kirk said. “Keptin?” “Not now, Chekov,” as Kirk hurried the confused Soran out of the crowded sickbay. The Enterprise-B is rocked violently by another discharge from the Nexus, as Kirk and Soran reach the main deflector control room. “You understand what you have to do?” Kirk asked. “Yes, Captain,” Soran said, still slightly frantic, but with a fresh determination. “Thank you.” “Don’t mention it, now GO!” Kirk watched from the doorway as Soran quickly made the adjustments to the deflector. “Cap’n,” Scotty said over the intercom, “we need that deflector pulse in one minute or we’re all dead!” “Now you know how it feels,” Kirk said under his breath, then louder, “Almost ready, stand by!” Soran finished the adjustments, then stepped back, and turned to face the forward bulkhead, his arms outstretched in anticipation. “NOW, SCOTTY!” Kirk yelled as he sprinted down the corridor. The graviton pulse lanced out from the Enterprise-B’s deflector dish, breaking the hold of the Nexus on the ship. As the ship pulls away, one last tendril reached out and took a ragged bite out of the secondary hull. Scotty came lumbering around the corner to see Kirk looking out into gash in the hull, just beyond the environmental force field that stood between them and the hard vacuum of open space. “Are ye all right, Cap’n?” “I’m fine, Scotty.” Scotty looked out into the void. “Was there anyone in there?” “Yeah, one of the El-Aurians.” “Poor soul.” “He’ll be fine.” Scott looked at his captain like he’d just grown a second head. “I’ll explain later.” Harriman and Chekov came running down the corridor. “Captain Harriman,” Kirk said, “What do you say we get this ship back to Earth and these refugees some proper medical care? I’ve got a few choice words for the headquarters genius who decided to send this ship out with only half her systems installed…” Flash forward seventy-eight years, the bridge of the Enterprise-D. “Message coming in for you, Captain,” Worf reported. “Your brother, thanking you for your warning about the malfunctioning heating unit.” “Thank you, Mr. Worf,” Picard said, suppressing a smile. Counselor Troi gave him a look, sensing his emotional uptick. “Something you’d like to talk about, Captain?” “Later, Counselor.” “We should start getting ready,” Riker said, “Mr. Worf’s promotion ceremony is in just a couple hours.” Picard heard the Klingon growl. “Number One, perhaps we should rethink the scenario for Mr. Worf’s promotion. After all, it is his party.” Worf let out a sigh of relief. “I will have an alternative prepared within the hour.” “No hurry, Mr. Worf, and no need for theatrics if you don’t want them. If you want to go with a simple ceremony in Ten Forward, that will quite all right.” “Thank you, Captain. I will make arrangements with Guinan.” “Mr. Data, how long until we reach the Armagosa Array?” “ETA two hours, fifteen minutes at our current speed.” “Very good. You have the conn, Number One. I’ll be in my quarters, following up on that message from my brother.” The Enterprise-D sails off, movie ends, everybody’s happy.
If this were a TNG 2-parter, this seems like the way they would have ended it. Damn movie execs micromanage everything to the detriment of storytelling.
In the start of one of the original Trek movies,we see the trio on a camping trip and the Captain's love of horses and the outdoors is established, well before generations
Exactly! And William Shatner is a very accomplished equestrian. He even has a horse breed named after him. And he and Picard on horses was a beautiful thing.
People say the Enterprise-D was weak with her shields down. I refer those people to "The Best of Both Worlds" where she goes against a Borg Cube without shields several times and survives.
Soran's entire plan was inefficient and overkill. He could have just re-entered the Nexus the same way he originally did: by riding a ship into its path (or even just donning an EVA suit and having someone drop him off in its path so a ship wouldn't be wasted). No need to destroy stars, planets, and civilizations.
I think the missile travel time/star dying is the most obvious of these dumb things. They really could have done better with Data and the emotion chip... but I thought the "oh shit" moment was perfect, lol
"Why doesn't he fly into it with a ship?" "Any ship is destroyed or severly damaged." It's not like Soran was planning a round trip or anything like that. Get close to it like in the beginning of the movie, beam in, roll credits?
Yeah, this one makes no sense at all, especially given the fact that his shockwave from the star literally destroys the planet as the Nexus passes through it, so how exactly does it matter if the thing your own blows up after you get absorbed?
Not sure if this is on the full list, but it always bugged me how half of the crew randomly switches to early DS9/Voyager outfits. It's never explained why they change and why some officers keep the TNG ones
If I remember correctly, it was a time/money issue (like many Trek inconsistencies). The powers that be wanted them to have new uniforms for the movie, but wardrobe didn't have time or cash to outfit everyone, so a lot of the cast wore their old uniforms instead. There have been many instances where several different uniform versions/variations coexisted on screen, for similar practical reasons.
@@martint.ingham7132 It's even worse, I think. I think the new uniforms were designed and even toys were made with the new uniforms. But they didn't have the money and/or time to actually make them and so used the DS9 ones as backups. The DS9 ones are actually uniforms from DS9, they aren't even fitted, they just found ones that were about the right size. That's why Riker's is so baggy.
And they don't even need to guess that Geordi's VISOR was a potential security issue - there's literally an entire TNG episode where the Romulans use it to control his mind. Not just look through it, but literally CONTROL HIS MIND. They should damn well know *"Hey, maybe we should make sure no one's tampered with this thing"* is a regular check-up kind of practice in general, much less after people who kidnapped and tortured you had access to it.
At one point she also says "The ship is in a bad way" which is a common term in British English, but virtually non-existent in US English. I wish Brie put her own spin on it instead of reading another person's article verbatim.
@@roneill1972 - Ellie clearly prefers Star Trek and Sean is hardcore Trekkie. Brie is straight up calling something I love 'dumb' - She's named after cheese, THAT'S dumb.
@@scottyb68 not really. And yeah they aren’t my favorite either. But this is a Star Trek channel and you’d think they’d have made sure they had the correct lore.
God, there were so many dumb things I lost count. They recast his nephew. Data's dumb emotion chip (which seemed to quadruple in size since last seen). Kirk and Picard team up to chop wood, cook eggs, ride horses, attack an elderly man. Picard doesn't just bury Kirk, bypassing a Starfleet funeral, he carries all those darn stones up the cliff and, at some point, lugged Kirk's dead body up there. What a waste. Once in the Nexus, you can have it drop you off anywhere at any time because that makes sense. Rather than picking 'the Enterprise, Ten Forward when the bad guy was at the party and easy to apprehend' they choose rocket launch time. It was all just beyond dumb. And they recycled an effects shot from the previous film. They couldn't even be bothered to flip the image horizontally to make the ship face a different direction. The whole film was just a massive missed opportunity. Great score, though
Speaking of 'The Final Frontier', they did a complete 180 when Kirk says to McCoy "I've always known, I'll die alone". Then he dies in Picard's arms. Ugh, what a terrible way to ruin one of the few good scenes in that movie and an even more ridiculous way to knock off such a legendary character, just have him fall off a bridge.
Not only do they team up to attack an elderly man, but have incredible trouble doing it. It's like Soren, some nerdy scientist, somehow is also a super fighter.
A seemingly rocket-powered missile reaching the star from its habitable zone in a couple of seconds was definitely one of the dumbest things in this movie.
The habitable zone for a Red or White dwarf star could be as close as 0.1AU which is about 50 light seconds. One such exoplanet example is Gilese 581g which is in its parent star's habitable zone with an orbit of 0.13 AU. It's still pretty unbelievable though, I agree.
In the TNG episode Heart of Glory Geordi uses his VISOR as a video transmitter so the crew on Enterprise can see what is happening on the away mission. The video feed is a mess of colours that the crew have trouble with, yet Soran is able to get a clear perfect picture from it in Generations.
There are some valid points, especially with the whole Visor stupidity, you'd think the writers would've remembered how the Romulans had brainwashed Geordi using his neural connections... dumb.
Wow, did not know All Good Things was being written at the same time. At least we can always enjoy that knowing it's the best Trek Show finale, the effort went into the right project for sure.
Brandan = Brannon Dark Matter = Red Matter Laziness = Lazy McCoy couldn't get insurance, but this movie has my favorite Trek ship; the Enterprise B, so I can't hate it... I was the first one to say that Picard never actually exited the Nexus; it was always his true dream to save the day, the Nexus just put him back to where to could save the day... but Picard never really left the Nexus, because how would that be even possible? You just tell the Nexus where and when you want to go and it understands?
Why is it, in a lot of Trek films, that the Enterprise is ALWAYS the only ship in range? Especially near Earth? I know the Federation is a peaceful society but shouldn't there be even a token fleet to defend the homeworld of the Federation?
usually a movie about the Enterprise crew would contain the Enterprise itself. I once watched a movie called The Avengers, and it had the Avengers in it.
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 not the point. It makes no sense that a planet as important as earth is, both as the human homework and capital of the federation, would be so inadequately defended. Especially the amount of times it's been attacked. Add that the federations shipyard is supposed to be close by as well and it makes no sense whatsoever that they always portray earth as undefended
This is because we only view the events when the Enterprise is the only ship in range. All the times in the 24th century when another ship is in range doesn't make for an interesting story for the Enterprise crew and so we don't get to see those events. This would only be strange if we actually see every single event that ever happens in the Star Trek universe, which we don't.
1:49 not strictly true.....DeForest Kelly was quite aged and unwell at the time and he wasn't able to get insurance to cover him for the work on the film.....
He didn't die though - he was in the Nexus - so if you want the Enterprise B sacrifice to mean anything - just see the rock as drastically delayed explosive decompression
The idea of Kirk on his bridge accompanied by Spock and McCoy actually makes a lot of sense. Rather than connecting with this total stranger who wears a similar uniform and speaks of duty, his friends would do a better job of convincing him to leave fantasy behind as both of them are fundamentally realists and they all went through something similar in Star Trek 5 with Sybok.
3:08 The bigger problem with the whole destroy a star thing is two-fold: First, the stars just stop fusing and send off a shockwave of energy. There's not really any loss of mass (even a small amount of mass generates a huge amount of energy, so even if the shockwave is nuclear, there's still not a lot of loss of mass). So why would the gravitational effect of the star change at all? Moreover, a shockwave of energy needs a medium to travel through of which space has none (that's why there's no sound in space), so how the shockwave would have traveled is a mystery. It might have made more sense if the star exploded in a supernova, but that would be a bright event, not a dark one. But even if that's the case, the emissions from the star would have traveled in a sphere at a speed slower than light. Anything that exists outside a sphere of a given mass, regardless of the size of the sphere, behaves gravitationally as if that sphere of mass were a point mass. So unless, the Nexus traveled through the shockwave, there would be absolutely no measurable difference in how the gravity from that star would have interacted with the ribbon. The Veridian star maybe, since the Nexus was in that system already, but then you'd have to explain how the energy shockwave didn't alter the ribbons course more than the change in gravity. But certainly the Amigosa star was too far away from the ribbon's course to have the shockwave pass beyond it while traveling at sublight speeds and hence it wouldn't have affected its path at all. Second, stars are incredibly spread out inside a galaxy. So much so that even when two galaxies collide, the likelihood that any of either galaxy's stars get close enough to each other to enter each others star systems is practically zero. So the likelihood that a planet sized energy ribbon traveling randomly through a galaxy would ever get close enough to enter any star system is incredibly unlikely at all. Which to be fair, it didn't until Sorin started destroying stars, but it's hardly any more likely that the minute changes in gravity that the destruction of just two stars would have made on a galactic scale could have gotten the Nexus to intersect a star system, much less actually intersect a planet in orbit of that star, is absolutely insane. And it's not like the planets just sit there. Data plotted the Nexus' course, but was the configuration of the Veridian star system set up to be timed with when the ribbon would have intersected the planet, or was a few hours before. Even a few minutes off and those planets would have been nowhere near the ribbon by the time it got to its orbital path. But sure, the issue with that scene is that the computer wouldn't know enough about the energy ribbon to chart its course and they missed the boat by having Data figure that out.
Lets add to it the fact that commander Riker orders Worf to, "prepare a spread of photon torpedoes, we have to hit them the instant they begin to cloak. " would have made more sense to see attack pattern Sierra where the torpedo splits into 5 like in yesterday's enterprise.
That first point didn't actually come out of nowhere. In the first series of Star Trek novels put out in the early 1980s, the few times Kirk took an extended vacation, or the Enterprise was being refit or repaired, Kirk stayed on a ranch he owned on Alpha Centauri. Since Starfleet personnel did get paid in those novels, he spent his salary on a vacation ranch.
It was funny how many times the ship took crippling damage and had to be towed back to stardock. If you read the novels, it was no surprise Starfleet decided to retire the ship after Wrath of Khan, instead of repairing it. At that point, the ship had been repaired and refitted something like 25 times at that point.
His uniform still being on in the nexus makes sense cause a big part of him still sees himself in Starfleet which will always be his number one dream and priority.
He only got there seconds before Picard did (from his perspective). From Picard's perspective, it's been 200 years since Kirk disappeared in the ENT-B accident. Time has no meaning in the nexus; time is relative - you know the drill.
Generations is a decently entertaining Star Trek movie that truly does require a larger than normal dose of disbelief suspension. It wouldn't be a a very good movie at all for people who don't do Star Trek.
AGREED. I saw this film at the cinema when it first debutted and-HATED-it !!! Convoluted storyline,big holes in the plot,enough for a Borg cude to fly through. LOL. And all the things you mention in this video,I don't own this trek movie either.
Why did Picard bury Kirk under a pile of rocks on a planet one over from a pre-warp civilisation? They're gonna be in for a shock when they find that skeleton and communicator in a few centuries (I know this has been retconned by Star Trek Picard, but still....).
Some things on the list are dumb. Some are just the viewer's conscious refusal to suspend disbelief for the sake a movie. I'm quite convinced that the movie would not have been better if the missile took eight minutes to arrive at the star and a hundred thousand years to take effect.
If they had shown that the nexus ripped apart all that metal rigging on the cliff when it took Soran and Picard, then it might make more sense that metal acts like a faraday cage preventing anything from inside of a ship getting into the nexus, and only when the hull is ripped apart can one enter the nexus. Obviously no one wants to jump out an airlock on the chance they might go into the nexus, so Soran made the nexus enter an atmosphere where he could breath and scoop him up. Captain on the bridge, or in this case, bridge on captain.
I actually liked and do like the film, but the first time I saw it I used the description that it had plot holes big enough to fly the Enterprise through. The 2 that most bothered me are basically #1 and #2 on this list -- the mechanics of the Nexus means they could have done the final fight scene an endless number of times if necessary, and it also *wasn't* necessary -- Picard could have gone back literally one day further when he had Soren on the Enterprise and easily taken him into custody. It also bugged me that, even if we assume some science-fiction faster-than-light travel of the tri-lithium rocket to reach the star in a few seconds, there's no way the light from the star would immediately dim from the perspective of the people on the planet.
I recall that there was a scene where Worf said that it would take some number of seconds for the rocket to reach the star, too few for him to be able to destroy it. Also, I thought the rocket had warp capability, in which case after it left the atmosphere it should've reached the star in a fraction of a second. Although, as seen in The Voyage Home, the rocket could've gone into warp from inside the atmosphere.
I've always joked about the "killing the star" scene, both how quickly it happens and how quickly we see it happen. But I always just kind of accept movie logic there. They can't take the time to make it believable, so just suspend disbelief there. However, the ability to leave the Nexus any time, any where, and they go back to the moment where they are most likely to fail? I never considered the Nexus revolving door, but go to Amargosa before Soren contacts the Klingons and kill him...go back three weeks and fly the Enterprise to Amargosa...as you said, go back and save the Picard family...hell, have Kirk go back to the launch of the Enterprise B, arrest Soren and not be disappeared for nearly a century. All of those choices make far more sense than appearing on a planet where Soren holds all the cards, and two old men have to fight to stop him.
Ron Moore and Brannon Braga mentioned the time travel but in their DVD commentary, that it was the same situation as with "The Terminator," wondering why the Terminator didn't just go back and find Sarah Connor in the bathroom and kill her then, just like why doesn't Picard go back say, a month or so, and take Soran out in the bathroom or something, barring Picard wanting to screw with the timeline as little as possible, they said it's a situation where you hope your story is strong enough that people don't end up asking questions like that, but clearly they did.
You'd need Spock to make his "best guess" for the correct place and time....or a semi-working De Lorean with malfunctioning time circuits just MIGHT get you to ...when you're going.
Guinan is rescued by Kirk and company but fails to mention why she is a refugee and the cyborg hivemind wiped out her ENTIRE race to the people that rescued her. “Thanks for the save, btw there is this unstoppable semi robot race out that we should be worried about right now or, ya know, in 74 years…whatever.”
The plot hole about Geordi's visor is even worse when the exact thing happened in the series where his visor was tampered with by the Romulans to receive transmissions from a collaborator to frame the Federation and kill a Klingon governor and end the Federation-Klingon Alliance.
You missed the worst one. The plan made no sense. "Hmmm I could blow up a star and kill millions to so I can jump into the stupid plot device..or I can just grab a space suit and hire a ship to push me out in front of it. Hmmmm?"
I don't know who Brandon Braga is, but *Brannon* Braga is a guy that a lot of Trekkies now immensely regret constantly sh*tting on for much of the late 90s and early 2000s. Well, except when it comes to "Threshold" and "These Are The Voyages..."
I still can't get past Sulu's daughter. 30 years in space together, and not once did Sulu mention his family to Kirk??? That's major grade dumb. Would've made more sense if she was Sulu's niece.
I remember having to write a story dealing with Generations because a character happened to be aboard the ship during the events. Said character had some influence on the eventual results but not the overall plot (because she couldn't, not as a simple Lieutenant.) But even then I had to find some way to justify the way this battle went, and I threw in several things from the magnetic interlocks already starting to have issues prior to the battle, to some power fluctuations stemming from the recent refit the ship received (which changed the bridge among other things) that has also been causing all the lights to be far dimmer on the ship, *and* I gave the Duras sister's ship a massive boost in power by having it be far more powerful than it should be, more comparable to a Vor'cha class. Then their first hit struck a critical blow to the power systems that meant that the phasers couldn't channel enough power to actually be effective, the warp engines were down, and Geordi was forced to have a jury-rigged power fix attempted that failed to succeed. *All* of this was necessary for me to even begin to justify this incredibly stupid battle as being anything remotely realistic for my tastes. And I still managed to have my character save the saucer section from being sent to crash on the planet. (Because that was an intentional part for setting up something I wanted to do later on, and dang it part of why I wanted to write the story was to fix this movie's fate for the Enterprise-D in particular. And then Picard season three did the same thing like a year and a half after I wrote that.)
The biggest sin of Generations in my opinion was how the D was done so dirty just so they could introduce a new ship in the next movie. They could have at least made it a decent matchup. The D being critically wounded in a battle with a Vor'cha class attack cruiser would have been much easier to swallow than an old beat up bird of prey doing her in. At least she was made whole once again after 30 years.
0:00 Intro 1:11 10: Kirk plays as Shatner 2:15 9: Modesty forbids 3:07 8: That's some mighty stellar cartography, Mr. Data 4:14 7: Data's over-emotional chip 5:14 6: That the space battle lasts more than 10 seconds 7:13 5: Would you trilithium? 8:35 4: What the Dickens? 10:00 3: I spy with my little visor 10:53 2: Anytime, anywhere, all at once 12:03 1: Mis-stakes were made 12:53 Outro
I say all of this with tons of love, Brie, you're amazing and I'm normally enjoy Trek Culture videos, but videos like this make me roll my eyes. This essentially just amounts to a list of tiny little nitpicks about a movie that really don't add up to much and its the kind of pedantic nonsense that has been the root of so many negative stereotypes of Trekkers and Trekkies over the years. TrekCulture, you do so many good videos, so many good lists that focus on the positive or interesting or engaging parts of the franchise, why do you stoop to these silly little lists of nitpicks? I hope you get some good views for this video but you guys have done much better content.
I've often wondered about that. Theoretically, Picard didn't need Kirk, by going back to Veridian III, he should have met his past self (the one who hadn't yet entered the Nexus). Thus he could have kept this up. Then when we see Soran walking along the bridge he suddenly stops to see 20 Picards standing around him. Cue "oh crap" look on Soran's face.
The way Enterprise reacted to being attacked has always bothered me, if the script requires them to be taken over (or destroyed), instead of firing back with all its might, it has always been "evasive maneuvers, signal them that we will return fire, boost power to the shield grid, fire a warning shot, intruder alert, security to deck 1..." In all the time the Bird of Prey fire at the Enterprise, they could have taken it out with a volley of photon torpedos and phaser fire.
I always wondered what Guinean lied to Picard, because when he was out of the nexus she told him one thing, but once inside, she told him something else completely, and that could have affected the entire series
everyone seems to forget, with regards to the Duras sisters blowing up the D, that since the encounter with the Borg, all Starfleet vessels randomize their shield frequency on an extremely frequent basis. there is no way that what the sisters saw via Geordi's visor would have been valid in the 5 seconds it took them to match the frequency and attack.
Also blowing up a star would not significantly impact the gravity of the star system from light years out. All the material in the solar system would still be there, so it’s gravity would still be there, it would just be arranged into an explosion instead of a star
I could never get my head around Villain of the week is motivated by returning to a nexus he never entered and not destroying the Borg who took everything from him , imagine a movie where they have to stop supernova weapons from destroying innocent systems that happened to be close to Borg Colonies and the ethical dilemma it would cause especially to a Picard who was hurt by the borg
I think one dumb thing is allowing so many reporters with cameras and recording equipment onto the bridge of the new flagship of the federation. if anyone hijacked the feed or even obtained the raw footage after the incident, they'd have a good layout of the bridge and possibly the readouts of on the critical systems consoles. not to mentions allowing them to follow on the tour of the ship which would showcase the interior design of the ship and even if they avoid critical areas, there are probably lots of things that could be exploited that are caught on footage
Should have had a script with some kinda time travel, where TOS or TNG end up in the other’s time, having to work together to solve some problem, and once solved one of the ships returns to its time. Could have been TOS ending up in TNG’s time. And the adventure could still have them sacrifice the D so Kirk’s enterprise can return back to its time. Maybe Kirk’s ship came from a point prior to Undiscovered Country. I dunno but yeah could’ve been better!
On point number 5, some clarification is needed. Light can actually escape a stellar interior in only few seconds; it's just usually highly improbable because the photons are continually scattering off of free particles in the stellar interior. But in extreme events like a supernova, these particles can be almost instantly brushed aside, leading to a very rapid catastrophic explosion (it can take less than 1 second for the core to collapse). The near-instant travel time of the explosion to the planet is def sci-fi though
It’s this video that’s dumb. Sorry for the first time ever a Trek culture vid doesn’t get an upvote from me. Why did the Nexus snatch their clothes, too? I mean really? What a dumb nitpick. Did you want the film to be rated R?
Temporal mechanics are difficult to really understand much less to even explain how something could precede the action that initiated the reaction. I like to quote Janeway in this instance "My advice of making sense of temporal paradoxes is simple. Don't even try."
They cut a scene that I think they should have left in: Guinan,'s 6th sense comes from her Nexus echo...Soran has it too and tells one of the characters. They cut the scene of Geordie being tortured...the scene of Beverly (silently) talking to Geordie has her saying she removed the tech used.
But hey, Pluto appears to be a planet again in the 23rd century 😉 One baffling moment to me is the general timeline once Geordi returns to the Enterprise...we're told the Nexus crosses through the Veridian system in approximately 45 minutes: enough time for Geordi to be discharged from sickbay, bathe, and make the rounds to engineering as normal, despite being a prisoner of the Duras sisters. Also a Bird of Prey was used in 5 consecutive Trek films... 🤔
I am an old school ST fan I tend to judge the new shows. But I'm watching strange new worlds and I'm enjoying it. Oh and I wish Generations could have been more like yesterday's enterprise + Kirk.
What Killed Soren? It can't be the trilithium missle. It killed an entire star. The explosion that killed Soren looked like a lawn mower catching fire.
Really? I thoroughly enjoyed it. Experiencing Data finally getting the emotions he always deserved made the movie so rewarding and quotable that I'd never think to disrespect it by calling any parts "dumb". If you had a list of the 10 best moments, I'd happily watch that.
