I never thought I would ever consider an electric motorcycle but thanks to your research and videos, they are on my radar now! Thank you for these videos!
*Love **Latest.Bike** ! Great value. Small to medium frame great for ladies to 5’9”. Powerful enough for easy riding yet wouldn’t handle big hills well.*
Your videos are so well-made and you give such great commentary i’ve been looking for an electric bike for awhile now and this is really helped me out as I need a way to get to college and I’m so sick of public transport honestly didn’t realise how much I liked motorcycles until I discovered retro ones i’m definitely gonna subscribe
My disgust of public transportation, is part of what got me into motorcycles in the first place. I already liked riding bicycles, I just really hated the limits of my body, and wanted to go faster. And I hate how long it takes to get anywhere with buses & trains, I hate the random service rerouting or shutting down lines. And I hate the stupid cultists trying to pressure me into their garbage religion, in stations, stuck with them on trains, and now they're singing & preaching in buses. Motorcycles give me the freedom & independence governments & gods don't want me to have, because they want to own me.
What a waste of time and money these bikes are , they all will end up in the E waste bin ! Oh ! and for us to see them, show them, Not the country side, I just watched that go by on my real bike at great speeds !
What I would love to see is an American Bike or bikes that represent the 80's. I really like the Honda 1985 V65 Sabre or the Honda 1986 VFR750 F Interceptor. That would really be something to get me to seriously consider a purchase. Of course it being made from an American company that is real with it's production. Would seriously be another reason to buy one. Great Videos thank you for them.
The recent agreement on swappable batteries with Honda, ktm and others hints to me that we should see the big makers have the dealer back up for the inevitable breakdown and servicing well need. Another great vid Bart, Thanks 🏍👍
I saw the last bike, the veitius at the bike show a few years ago great looking bike. The company owner was doing some market research at the time and back then he was pitching the price around £20,000 range. The live wire had just come out so I think he was aiming for the same price bracket. That was a few years ago and the price may be lowere, but one thing about the bike it has lots of tech on it , looked great sounded fantastic ( he had it on a static track so you could see the thing running ).
Their website has it as £40,000. That, for a 70 mph/100 mile roadster, is outrageous! Especially when you can get the Energica Flagship Experia, which does closer to 200 miles at motorway speeds, for £12,000 less. The nearest Emotorcycle to it, performance wise, is the Horwin and that is £7,000.
Where are the inverted front forks on the Veitis EV Twin? My 2019 Honda Monkey rides better than that thing will, and it gets about 30 miles on a thimble full of gas, and goes 55 mph. Not bad for a $4,000 price tag. Come on, man, Regular forks on a "high tech", high priced" motor bike? Might as well put lipstick on a pig and call it beauty.
I love electric bikes... I own a Super Soco TC, a ZERO SR/S ... and I wish is could own a BlackTea (from Germany!)... a RGNT...a LiveWire. .. a VEITIS... the Problem is that I only have one ass 🤣 Greetings from Berlin/Germany
no offece meant but these are shit,missing the point of a bike entirely,i heard the specs ,let me give an example of what is the least bike you want ,its a honda 90 ,range on one fill there claim 200 miles reality 150 ,top speed 60 mph yup downhill achievable, there were so many in the list which fall so short of a thing that harley riders would call training wheels, give me 80 plus mph id feel safe on a motorway 200 mile range and make it light and nimble like a 250 and equal cost to buy. then and only then will i consider an electric motorcyle.
haha, the only one I like is the Veitis ev twin, but there is no pricing on their website. Now I know why, there is an article saying it’s £40,000! Do your research mate!
Seems like more than half are concept/ not for sale yet and you are giving a guess as to what you think it should sell for. I think you should stick to models that are 1.Available 2. Have a current Retail Price. And 3. A verified spec sheet. I’ve seen the same thing with E foils and E surfboards. Half are scams or concepts that never go past a drawing. Most are not even close to the spec they print. And 2 or 3 are actually the real thing. But cost double or triple what was estimated in these pre release videos. short video I know but way more useful if you are shopping for something now.
The Black Tea Bonfire is a moped. Its in the 50cc class and reaches 45 KPH. The Bonfire X is in the 125cc class, and reaches 90 KPH. The small one comes with 1 battery, a second as option. Battery costs 1000 €, and you get double the range. But order a second at start, then you get a different connector. The X always has 2 Batteries, caused by the more power consumption. European cities are much smaller than in the US. I guess, driving arround in Manhattan without crossing the river would be perfect with that range. And if you drive in city speed, you get more distance. Distances are in top speed. Slower = more range
Greetings, Okay. I wanted to see what was available in e-bikes. Unfortunately, your apparent dependence on manufacturers videos results in quick edits and weird camera angles. The result is that you can’t get a decent look at the motorcycle. It’s almost as if the manufacturers are embarrassed by the design of their products. Let’s be careful out there.
Thanks. All the bullet points, PLUS COST! Cool! Well- Done! And really the Best selections, I'd have to say. Prices still seem high for what you Get, but operating costs, one would hope, and longevity, would help to even that out. Would HOPE.
So far all these bikes are basically bar bikes. I live in Texas and if your top speed is not much over 80miles an hour coupled with some skinny little tires, then stay off the highway. On my Kawasaki Vulcan I have been many places that I cruise at 80. But I get it ...if you want a souped up E-bicycle then these are the bomb. For a long cruise ....HELL NO.
I am considering an electric bike. where I am (Newark, NJ, USA) they cost from $700 to $1,700. I could buy a used 125cc or 250cc motorcycle for almost the same price,
Here's a thunk: Invest in a small sogen with a Lifepo4 battery (safer than Lithium-Ion and 2500+ cycles to 80% vs L-Ion's 200-750 cycles and -L-Ion's propensity of being an extreme fire-hazard when charging/discharging); a 100-300 watt foldable/portable solar panel; a small trailer and an ebike - so you can ride to your heart's desire and never have to worry about running out of power for your ride or your other devices you drag along for your ride(s). Sogen/panel
Famel once was the german company Zündapp. They build mopeds since the early 70s. Then in the late 80s they sold their production equipment to asia and mass produce mopeds. I had a Zündapp C 50 Sport when i was a teen.
Zundapp MoFa FTW - Great little moped in the early 80's (West) Germany, before The Fall of The Wall. Thanks for the memories! Ride Hard - Ride Safe(ish) ;)
Project Zero (5) is, imho, a viable toy/tool, small enough to recharge with a portable solar gen/panel, which can easily be towed behind with a sleep kit, so you could viably put on some serious Johnny-on-the-spot mileage, yet still have the trips be easy on the wallet for the traveler. Lectric XPedition with dual battery for
The Veitis EV twin is a beautiful bike but is listed here in the UK for £40,000! ( $ 55,370 ! ) Not what you were considering as reasonable I would guess!
The Veitis EV Twin would be for me. Not a fan of electric, but would save money on gas, save wear n tear on my gas users. Keep the miles down as well. Things to consider here.
Maeving will be releasing their RM1S in April 2024, it will have a top speed of 65mph and will cost £7495 in the UK. Reservations of £500 are being taken at the moment. The Maeving is manufactured in Coventry, UK.
They should eventually develop some kind of battery fairing, which fakes the looks of a cumbustion engine. The Veitis makes a first small step in this direction. This in conjunction with faked combustion engine and exhaust sound is a must to get the attention of current combustion engine motorcycle riders. I can't understand, why the developers of E-motorcycles do not take account for this. It just seems like they are living in their own bubble. Uh, and vibrations! I completely gorgot about vibrations. They have to develop something to create artificial vibrations.
The SuperSoco TC Max and Horwin CR6 are strange omissions, they're among the best looking and most affordable in the category, with decent specs to boot.
But the Zero and the Kollter Banshee is available for purchase in the US. As we speak. Street legal and keeps up with traffic. Stop pimpin'the 125 and 250 that you would have to ride on the sidewalk or bike path. You are perpetuating the idea that electric motorcycles are mobility scooters and should stick to the bike routes. Sad.
12/21/2021 the apocalypse is upon us. Looking good out on the street becomes a target,when everything divides us. Baiting your insecurities and waiting for you to come out.
The Veitis was the only bike that rings retro unless you want to go back the the 1920s as a retro style, of which there were a few. Otherwise they mostly looked like space junk.
Dam not a great video, blurry filming bikes to far away to look at it, and too top it off there's nothing retro style here, can't call the 80s vintage that's ridiculous.
Came across your two retro electric motorcycle videos...great stuff! I'm in NYC, do you have any recommendations for something I could buy and get support for?
Honestly idk if these companies are even offering warranties or anything. Maybe something like the onyx would be a good option if support is important.
@@bartmotorcycle Basically my only true option is a store called Filipacchi and they offer Zero. Anyway, thanks for making the content. I'll look out for more.
You forgot one very awesome bike that's being built in Australia. Check out Savic Motorcycles. Awesome cafe racer x modern styling and real performance at a good price. I'd rank it No 1
Sorry, but this thing just looks so ugly. They should eventually design batterys or battery fairings with the looks of classic combustion engines. Otherwise they will never attract the vast majority of present bikers.
so when i'm motoring down the road in my electric pickup and the batteries die i just pull over hook up the generator i keep in the truck bed with gas, fire it up and i'm on my way, passing all these e bikes dead on the shoulder.
Have you looked at Savic Motorcycles Series C Alpha electric motorcycle? Releasing late 2022, made in Melbourne Australia, 60KW, 200NM, 0 to 100kph in 3.5 seconds, 200+ km range, cafe racer styling, I think it looks way better than all of these bikes.
Never e thought to see the Famel on this list , for u peaple that dont know anything about Famel ,that model called E-XF is a retro electric redesign of the iconic portuguese 50cc Famel XF-17, the most famous bike in Portuguese history, is known for beeing the Fastest 50cc bike ever made , capable of doing 110km/h straight from the factory , was made in Portugal and had a Zundapp engine with 5 speed gearbox , was known to for beeing the first or One of the first bikes to get a engine líquid cooled, that motorcycle is a Legend that can still be seen on the Road frequently because besides being a Race machine it was a very popular choice to the Portuguese peaple to Ride around and transport the entire family with it , because of the very accessable price back then, unfortanably Famel was closed when Portugal joinned to the EU and Cars Start to get more accessable and cheap , Famel use to move Portuguese peaple around ,everyone had One and they still beeing riden until today
Darn that evtwin tickle my pickles, the rider is creamer also.BTW you should have Datbike from Vietnam startup by an American on the list, 3000usd spect equivalent to Evtwin
All electric motorcycles are too small. If you are smaller, they are fine. A Live wire is a mini bike to me. Tiny little things. Electric motorcycles will never be accepted if they have tiny stature. Example a RE motorcycle looks full size with a Indian rider, but they are Tiny to many people.
yeah i think ypour confused what retro is for sure, these are just naked sports bikes, a modern look just cos it has drop handlebars doesnt make it a cafe racer.
They need to create battery exchange points so motorbikes and electric bicycles can swap out there batteries for a fully charged battery to give electric longer distances so people can have more fun and that would be a game changer for electric .
With the new Honda UgO I can see the price of a lot of bikes coming down. Like that thing cost less than an IPhone, so other companies will have to compete
Haha, are you biased towards British bikes. From a design point of view I have problems with the Veitis, it simply tries to mimic a V engine with a gas tank??? If you look at some of the e-bikes they manage to introduce new designs that are focused on the new opportunities a battery and a more compact engine give you. btw, are there any "motorbikes" with hub motors? .... get rid of this old school drive train concept :-)
