My father once had a 1994 T4 with the NA 1.9 diesel 4-cylinder....It wasn't quite as low as the 49bhp version in this video, but I think it was like 61 or 65, which even just pulling the van was sloooooooooooow. It was rated to carry 800kg as well, so I dread to think how horrible it must have been loaded up to the max weight. It had a towbar too, so in theory you'd have been able to make it even worse!
What a difference....our Transporter Mk4 2.5 TDI from 2000 uses less than 7 l/100 km. Most of the time it runs non-turbo'ed anyway, sadly. Starts kicking in at ~2400 rpm which you're basically only going to hit in fifth. I'd like to point out though that vans usually have a (strongly) reduced gear ratio on all gears in the transmission which makes them accelerate slower by standard, not just because of low power output. Obviously, this is done to allow the van to carry a lot of weight while still being able to accelerate, although slowly.
Not true. I have a 14 year old Daewoo Matiz with over 100,000 miles on it and it runs like new. You just have to change its oil every 3000 miles like I did and it runs great. The amazing thing is that the Matiz is also faster than some of the cars in this video. I had a Peugeot 306 1.9d which is slower.
I do. It's a gasoline engine, after all.. :D Shame, it's a 90's car & still has lower specific output than 40-years-older pushrod 327ci small block (~72hp/l)
Nimeni Defapt Because they don't have a turbo, which makes them louder and more pronounced than turbo diesels, and have a more pure sound like a gasoline engine.
My father had a Benz W123 with the four pots, two liters OM617... 55 whole Hp SAE . 0-100 km/h in the low 30 seconds, 124 km/h max speed... And he managed to rake in a speeding ticket on a steep up-hill, just to be able to brag that he could get the thing to go (any) fast. God, I still miss him.
remuaja84 If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
smaller springs (to plant the car closer to the ground) and bigger, lighter rims can make driveability better in a racetrack if its done well. i dont get this show car thing. its makes no sense to me
that doesnt look like its good on the racetrack lol. show car is a good looking car that is purely made to look good (every stanced car ever) and this fabia doesnt have any performance potential.
Don't even get me started on the UK car scene's over saturation of Mk7 Ford Fiestas...Most of them are base models with those stupid pop and bang maps. First, they don't even sound good, they're just loud, and second, my 97 Mazda 323f that only has 115 bhp can keep up with them
The 7.3 navistar used by Ford before mid 1993 model year is not turbo, The earlier 6.9 was even less power and torque. The factory turbo 7.3 was available mid '93 to mid '94 when the Powerstroke turbo arrived.
VW SDI 1.9 has 68HP 50KW... 35HP per liter, old engine developed from 1.7D, 1.9D in Skoda Felicia has 64hp 33,75 hp per liter. Old VW 1.6D engine has 55hp, which is almost 35hp/l.
My father still has Skoda Fabia with 1.9 SDI engine. It's actually 64HP as others said already. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but fuel consumption is really low and reliability of these engines is great.
I thoroughly enjoyed my two years driving my Seat Ibiza with it's 1.9SDi engine. I once averaged 67.9mpg from one full tank . I've never had a car go so far on a gallon of fuel!
Thats so cool! Dont know why people care that much about power. I have 1.5dci and after opening wastegate so it has no boost i basically have 1.5l NA diesel and it lowered my fuel consumption. Power is barely relevant if its enough to drive
My buddy had a 6.2 L Detroit in his old Chevy. That poor truck when through hell and back with over 300k miles, spent its life pulling stuff it had no business pulling and living on the red line. It has an inspection hole now in the side of the block but it gave me a whole new level of respect for the 6.2
My non-turbo gas 740 is decent...but only after stripping close to 300 pounds out of it! 😂 The NA D24 cars are crazy slow though, they really need the turbo.
i must be a weird guy cause i prefer sound over power, if i can't pass someone on the highway i don't care, as long i love the sound my vehicle makes! i love 6.2 Detroit!!!!!!!!!!!
I drive a VW Caddy with a 1.9 SDI for work and I honestly didn't think there were slower cars haha. Every time I get in my 115 hp Honda after work it feels like a super car.
Now compare these with yank V8s like the Chevy LG4 that makes a pathetic 143hp from its 5 litres? That's just 28.6 hp per litre from a so called performance petrol engine fitted in the early 80s Camaros!
Regarding the "VW SDI" Engine: They're not all "SDI", SDI only means that it's a NA Diesel with direct injection, the older versions of those engines had a Whirlchamber (indirect injection). I believe the last ones with Whirlchamber were in the Skoda Felicias up to 2000 (something I bought this week...). As far as pace goes, it's actually overexaggerated by people looking at the numbers. A Diesel has more narrow rev band and thus provides a higher amount of power at lower revs. In everyday driving, you would (hopefully) not rev out any engine anyway. Let me give you a real world comparsion: A Skoda (VW) 1.9D with 64PS (47kw) @ 4800RPM: At 1500RPM has 120Nm Torque and about 25PS/18kw. At 3000rpm, you have 124Nm Torque and about 50PS/37kw. Now we compare a Honda S2000 with 241PS (177kw) @ 8800RPM: At 1500RPM it has about 30PS/22kw and about 120Nm Torque. At 3000RPM it has about 80PS/59kw and about 190Nm Torque. At 3000RPM in the highest gear, my Skoda would sit at 70mph or 113km/h, the S2000 due to shorter gears just a bit lower. Obviously, you could just floor it in a lower gear and use more power (= fuel) and Turbo/Supercharged Cars would blow the Torque figures to a entirely different level. I picked the comparsion just to visualize how little power you use/need to drive at legal/economical speeds.
I kinda expected to see the Mercedes OM615. A 2L 4pot which originally produced 55hp (27.5 per L) but the later version developed a stonking 60hp. It was practically impossible to kill and during its production powered 80-90% of all german taxis.
What size truck you got and what are you your mpg's like? I have considered the Banks kit it, but really like the economy on the NA 6.2...not worried about winning street races these days 😊
Duallys man...gotta love the capacity and the look, but they kill ya on mileage 😅 You'd be maybe a couple mpg better with singles. I use the Transforce A/Ts and I am touching 1000kms all-highway kms with conservative driving on 34 gallons 😄
I think one of the best van is Iveco Turbo Daily.I owned one for a four years.Bought it with 620000km,sold it with 1350000.2.5 Direct Injection TD,92hp.Max speed was 125km/h,but acceleration was far better then others in same class.Rated at 1500kg,you can overtake other vehichles with ease in fifth gear.When cargo space is empty,you don't need first gear to start.Going downhill with full cargo in first gear,and forget about the breakes.I was king of the vans on hilly roads.The only dissadvantage was,under 1800 rpm,it has big turbo lag.I mean really BIG.Also as time goes on and milage also,on low temperatures,when starting the cold engine,it shaked the all body until heat up a little.
I daily an Ibiza 1.9 SDI from 2000 now and I can't say anything bad about performance for a N/A diesel. Yes it's slow but I have absolutely no problems merging in traffic etc. including entering expressways. Year ago I drove a Mazda 323 1.7D and I was getting a new job while being completely broke and didn't even have money to fuel it up, so I put old motor and transmission oil in the tank. It probably needed over a full minute from 0 to 100 km/h and I drove it 40km one way to work everyday, somehow got it up to 120-130 km/h and even overtook people if I got a solid run up from behind. Did it for 2 weeks until a dude paid off the car parts he bought from me "in credit" and I could fill it up. It smoked on the oil but stopped smoking within 100km when it went back to diesel fuel. On regular diesel fuel it would happily run up to 160 km/h where it would sit at rev governor in 5th gear. Small 13" wheels, a short gearbox and being a ~1000kg box helped (in both cases, Ibiza and Mazda)
Nothing about the GM 4cyl Family II engine. 56 hp from a 1.7 L. engine = @30hp/l Used in European market GM cars. Also the BMC B series engine (yes they did a diesel version). 40hp from a 1.5L engine. = @37.5hp/l. A snail is faster. Then there was the Rover MDi / Perkins Prima engine. One form was a 1.994L producing 84hp. That is 24hp/l. Used in various Rovers, along with the Montego/Maestro range of cars. Plus the Sherpa vans. More powerful engines were used in European version of some Hondas and in Land Rover vehicles too.
Man I love this channel. videos of best sounding italian v6 side to side with a big list of horrendously sluggish diesels... I can satisfy my lust for mechanical contraptions whatever they are :)
Just want to say... I have been watching you for a very long time... 25K in fact. Not only have your videos dramatically improved from then to now, your English has come a long way too. It keeps getting better!! Keep up the good work!
OM 606 was built in 5 or 6 different variants, and last NA variant was built by 1997. After 1997 all engines from 606 series have had turbo charger, and output of 177 HP with over 300 Nm torque at 1500 rpm.
hasnfefer If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
Some facts in this video are wrong. For example BMW series isn't M21 but E21 that's predcessor of E30. And about SDI engines 1,9SDI has 68hp. 1,6D in Golf2 has 54hp.
Nice to see some stuff from Flexiny here. His whole channel is a remarkable collection of old junk and neglected vehicles that they fix up. The Mercedes diesels he's done don't take much to get running after years and years of sitting.
Aw no mention of the Standard Vanguard-Ensign diesel which had a whopping 1.6 litre 40ish HP in a car about as heavy as a Ford Granada, it was the UK's first real stab at diesel motoring and died a swift death too for many years altho some of the Ensign's made it into farmers hands who could fill them with redline diesel (duty free diesel) and could do about 50mpg and some were used by the UK's armed forces abroad as staff cars but were so unreliable and so underperforming they were soon binned in favour of the Austin Gypsy/Land Rover's that became ubiquitous for all round military use. Quite amusing my little Reliant Robin MK2 has more power and oomph than some of these featured hehe :)
Brilliant and interesting as usual ;) Let me point out though that you forgot about the worst Opel engines in terms of power The OHC four 1.6 diesel delivering 54 hp and the horrible CIH four diesel (2.0 with 57 hp, 2.1 with 60 hp and 2.3 with 65 hp) I think at least one of them should have been included, but I cannot blame you if you didn't know about them :D
Old London buses put up a ffair fight here. 11 litre displacement and 120 HP to the wheels on a good day. The turbocharged 8+ litre engines that are used more commonly aren't much more powerful if at all but they have better low end torque and volumetric efficiency and are quite a bit better on fuel. Still more thirsty than a Jag XF (and I'm not talking about the diesel version!!)
Normally aspirated diesel engines were horrible, I drove many back in the 80s and 90s, they were noisy, slow and often not that economical. You can say what you like about modern turbo diesels being over complicated and unreliable, I think they are awesome bits of kit :)and will always choose TD over any petrol engine.
i have a 2.5 i4 NA diesel isuzu pickup truck, 54kw(72hp), 29hp/litre lmao its very slow but it has a 520,000km unopened engine and still runs like brand new so im very happy
No mention for the Opel Corsa 1.5 and 1.7 n/a diesel? They only produce 50 and 59 bhp respectively. Fortunately there was a 1.5 TD version which comes with 65 bhp as standard, but can easily be tuned for 40% more.
The GM 6.2l Has NOTHING to do with the Oldsmobile diesel. Not one part is interchangeable between those two engines. The 6.2/6.5l were designed to be fuel savers. Not much power but if serviced correctly and treated right, they'll run good for along time, especially the 6.2l
Slight misinformation about the Olds diesel: The V-8 variant ceased production after the 1981 model-year, and was replaced by the wholy-redesigned 4.3L V-6 version... which saw use in W-body FWD models, such as the Chevy Celebrity, and RWD G-body models --such as the Oldsmobile Cutlass, Buick Regal and Chevy & GMC ute-body models.
Freeca - 4D56 Engine 2.5L 2477cc, 75HP, 149Nm torque, 8-12L/100km, top speed of 90mph. Brand new! Asia's Mitsubishi Freeca-Adventure-Kuda-Jolie, equipped with jurassic 4d56 engine, this Utility vehicle still in production I think one of the worst in today's production diesel cars in terms of power per liter, still known for its simplicity, extreme durability yet one of the cheapest family car on the market today, this car remains one of the best seller today at least in our market
I had many years IFA-L-60,truck from East Germany,fitted by N/A Diesel engine with 9.2 litres and 182 HP...this is about 19-20 HP´s from one litre as well....very reliable,low consumption and 400 000 km without main trouble...pretty,then? But it was a truck,I can´t compare it with personal cars here..,I know..
Your information about the OM603 is not totally correct . The heads (No. 14) were prone to crack only on the North American turbo charged versions, the OM603.96 engines. The Euro models came with different heads (No. 10), and the OM603.912 engines have very little to no issues throughout there entire lifetimes. (Source: I own one). Another thing with the turbo American version is that pre-1988 model OM603.96 engines' diesel particulate filters were very poorly placed at the front of the head, and so disintegrated with the heat, causing massive internal issues. (another reason why the non-turbo is better)
My citroen has a DW8WJY 1.9...no turbo. supposed to make 69hp, but that's all the way at redline pretty much...realistically, after looking at power and torque graphs, the actual power is around 40-50hp in the rev range where you'll actually be driving most of the time. Nice torque though.
Pretty sure you're misinformed on the VAG SDi engine. The 1.9SD 50PS in this video was not in the same family as the automotive used 1.9SDi's, (it is an SD rather than SDi) and was only used for marine applications. The 2 automotive 1.9SDi VAG units used produced 64 & 68PS
I drive a truck for work (1995 Mercedes 814) and while it has 140 HP, with 3th maxing out at 45km/h and 4th gets me to 70, I Just have 100 HP to pull 8 tons of truck at that point. From 40 km/h onwards IT accelerates on average 1 km/h per second! Takes a minute or more to reach 90 km/h, and a minute later on a flat road it gets to 105 km/h
GMC Toro-Flow diesel had 315 Ci and 130 HP for 22.8 HP/L but this is a gross horsepower rating so It might be the biggest loser as I am sure the net horsepower is lower than the 120 of the Olds. (Wait I found the GM dyno chart, 118 Net HP)
Rumors says old 2.4L NA diesels from VW LT (rather sturdy, torquey work tool than an actual car) shouldn't exceed 3500 RPM as it will drink oil. And you guessed it right- both torque and horsepower figures has their peaks at roughly 2000 RPM.
5:44 Cripes! Is that D24 hooked up to an auto 'box?! If it is then that's misery exemplified right there. And this is coming from someone who drove a 1.6 Mitsubishi Carisma 50k miles...I know misery.
The Volkswagen D24 was originally a five cylinder engine it was Volvo which added the extra cylinder. In Turbo Diesel form in the Volvo 760 GLE it was the fast Diesel vehicle in the world at the time according to Volvo.
