10 Questions with Mike Winger (Episode 15)

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Welcome to the new weekly stream! 10 questions every Friday at 1pm Pacific time.
Question Time Stamps for Quick Reference:
0:00 - Intro
1. 0:07 {What Makes a Cult?} What makes a cult? I grew up in a church that took many hard stances on issues that led our elders to act in unbiblical ways. Most would say it was a cult. Where is the line drawn?
2. 25:30 {Female Elders under Male Elder Headship?} Any advice for a member of a church with a male lead elder pastoring alongside ordained female elders who often teach on Sundays? Is there any warrant to the idea that they are under his headship?
3. 31:40 {Does God Overlook Ignorance?} In Acts 17: 30, what does Paul mean by God overlooking the times of ignorance? Was He more lenient toward idolatry before the time of Christ? Or did He stop trying to save the idolaters of that time?
4. 40:18 {Evangelizing the Apathetic} My wife and I are having difficulty ministering to her father who doesn’t seem to care about the topic of God at all. How do you help someone realize the importance of salvation?
5. 46:57 {Does God Operate Outside of Time?} Can you talk about your views on God’s relationship to time? Personally, I find the timeless God view incoherent and unbiblical. It seems He operates within time.
6. 54:52 {What if Election Isn’t about Salvation?} What are your thoughts on election being about service and blessing rather than salvation (i.e., Judas was chosen by Jesus to serve Him but obviously wasn't saved)?
7. 58:08 {Mark of the Beast: Literal or Symbolic?} Could the Mark of the Beast being on the forehead or right hand symbolize something that dominates the mind or actions of those who submit to it instead of a literal mark on the body as many assume?
8. 1:00:37 {Ancient Israel & The Trinity} Did ancient Israelites believe in the concept of a "multi-personal God"? By multi-personal God, I mean a concept similar to the Trinity, where there is one God made up of multiple Persons.
9. 1:06:11 {Christ Ascending & Descending} What is Paul talking about in Romans 10:6-7 when he’s speaking of Christ descending and ascending? The way he phrases things seems like it should be the other way around.
10. 1:10:11 {Making True Disciples} According to Scripture, if the disciple you make doesn't make a disciple, have you really made a disciple?
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@sarahfaith316 Месяц назад

Question Time Stamps for Quick Reference: 0:00 - Intro 1. 0:07 {What Makes a Cult?} What makes a cult? I grew up in a church that took many hard stances on issues that led our elders to act in unbiblical ways. Most would say it was a cult. Where is the line drawn? 2. 25:30 {Female Elders under Male Elder Headship?} Any advice for a member of a church with a male lead elder pastoring alongside ordained female elders who often teach on Sundays? Is there any warrant to the idea that they are under his headship? 3. 31:40 {Does God Overlook Ignorance?} In Acts 17: 30, what does Paul mean by God overlooking the times of ignorance? Was He more lenient toward idolatry before the time of Christ? Or did He stop trying to save the idolaters of that time? 4. 40:18 {Evangelizing the Apathetic} My wife and I are having difficulty ministering to her father who doesn’t seem to care about the topic of God at all. How do you help someone realize the importance of salvation? 5. 46:57 {Does God Operate Outside of Time?} Can you talk about your views on God’s relationship to time? Personally, I find the timeless God view incoherent and unbiblical. It seems He operates within time. 6. 54:52 {What if Election Isn’t about Salvation?} What are your thoughts on election being about service and blessing rather than salvation (i.e., Judas was chosen by Jesus to serve Him but obviously wasn't saved)? 7. 58:08 {Mark of the Beast: Literal or Symbolic?} Could the Mark of the Beast being on the forehead or right hand symbolize something that dominates the mind or actions of those who submit to it instead of a literal mark on the body as many assume? 8. 1:00:37 {Ancient Israel & The Trinity} Did ancient Israelites believe in the concept of a "multi-personal God"? By multi-personal God, I mean a concept similar to the Trinity, where there is one God made up of multiple Persons. 9. 1:06:11 {Christ Ascending & Descending} What is Paul talking about in Romans 10:6-7 when he’s speaking of Christ descending and ascending? The way he phrases things seems like it should be the other way around. 10. 1:10:11 {Making True Disciples} According to Scripture, if the disciple you make doesn't make a disciple, have you really made a disciple?

@the1_grammy503 Месяц назад

Similarly, I know that my sister has accepted Jesus as her Lord and Savior earlier in her life. I knew growing up that my sister didn’t date much and that the few people that she was close with were females. By now you have guessed that she is gay. My Mother and I were discussing how she can be so faithful in so many ways, including studying God’s Word daily, but also having a relationship with a woman. Does that mean she will go to hell? God says it’s an abomination yet I know that she is saved. We’re just concerned. This has never kept us from loving her. Love the person, hate their sin.

@NewCreationInChrist896 Месяц назад

10) Jesus is the Savior only He saves, we plant seeds of sound doctrine, Jesus is the Good Shepherd. 1 Corinthians 3:7 “So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase”

@fivenightsatfreddys9369 Месяц назад

cult means people who worship 3 gods

@dreameruy9510 Месяц назад

@@fivenightsatfreddys9369 God is One and ALONE His name is JESUS Jesus is Lord and Saviour The scripture says; There is no other God but the Lord Jesus is the only Saviour The scripture says; There is no other Saviour but God I am the Lord thy God the holy One of Israel thy Savior isa 43: 3 He was in the World and the World was made by him and the World knew him not (Jn1:10 Kjv) VERY VERY CLEAR VERSE HE WAS IN THE WORLD AND THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM JESUS CHRIST MADE THE WORLD ALONE Thus saith the Lord thy redeemer and he that formed thee from the wormed, I am the Lord that makes ALL THINGS, that stretcheth forth the heaven ALONE, that spread abroad The earth by MYSELF ( isa44:24) I AM the Lord and there is none else, THERE IS NO GOD BESIDE ME, I girded thee though thou has not known me (Isa 45: 5) He came to his own but his own receive him not ( Jn1: 11) John said for many deceivers have gone out into the World who do not confess Jesus Christ come in the flesh this is Deceiver An Antichrist (2jn1:7 Kjv) Therefore know this day and consider it in your heart that the Lord himself is God in heaven above and on the Earth beneath, THERE IS NO OTHERS (Deut 4:39 Kjv) GOD IS ONE AND ALONE HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE ARE CULT..

@lauracheeverauthor Месяц назад

I was a Mormon for 25 years before God saved me, and Mike is absolutely correct on everything he said about Mormonism. The only thing I'd add is that even mainstream Mormonism is extremely controlling; it's not just the fringe groups. Your salvation depends on your temple work, (and continued temple worthiness.) To attend the temple you can't drink tea or coffee, you must pay 10+% of your income to the Mormon church to be used however they see fit, you must affirm both Joseph Smith AND the current prophet, (which is impossible because they so often disagree,) etc. Then, when you're inside, you make a literal deal with the devil, (the actor who plays Satan says something along the lines of "If you reveal what happens inside the temple you will be under my power," and the temple attendee says "Yes.") Then you make cupping signs to catch your own blood if you tell their secrets. Furthermore, you're not supposed to learn from "unapproved" sources. Mike Winger is definitely an unapproved source haha. Which is to say that Mike is great and I'm very grateful for his ministry

@jeffwarren6906 Месяц назад

I am so happy God saved you from Mormonism , and I appreciate you sharing aspects of Mormonism that outsiders rarely hear about .. God bless you brother/sister

@Elisha_she_bear Месяц назад

Glad you're out. Bless you. ❤

@parkerbrantley4356 Месяц назад

Uhhh, what? I knew a lot about mormonism and their rituals but I didn't know someone pretends to be Satan inside of their temples and says "if you tell of these secrets you will be under my POWER".

@lauracheeverauthor Месяц назад

@@parkerbrantley4356 To be fair, most temples don't have live actors anymore. Now it's a video. 😅

@evansjessicae Месяц назад

Yeah, the more I learn about Mormonism (I'm a never-mo), the more I see how very culty it is. 😬 Growing up, I always thought it was a respectable - albeit false - religion; but now that I'm hearing from ex-mo RU-vidrs, I'm realizing how demanding and controlling it is. Not to mention how they hold your salvation out like a carrot, so you can never do enough to be sure you're saved.

@robynhouse8166 Месяц назад

I like the B.I.T.E. model for defining a cult: Behavior control Information control Thought control Emotional control

@debblouin Месяц назад

I would add Money Control and Education Control So it would be BITE ME 😂

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

God controls our behavior. God says you're going to hell if you think lustful thoughts. Being angry is basically like murder. You better be controlled or you're going to hell. God mislead the Jews for a thousand years by making them think sacrificing animals and obeying the law was important just because he said it 500,000 times and was very emphatic about it. The info in the NT is also cryptic enough that no one can agree about anything.

@CommonSense_Skeptic Месяц назад

It's not difficult at all to define what a cult is you just don't like the definition because it includes all religions

@jeffwarren6906 Месяц назад

Nice , I have heard or seen this before . Thank you

@DM-dk7js Месяц назад

Religion

@BoyKagome Месяц назад

5 qualifications to identity a cult. 1. Group Think. 2. Isolation from society. 3.Special Knowledge no one else knows. 4. Loyalty to leadership above everything else. 5.Purposeful violation of moral and law based boundaries. All 5, not just one.

@aaronvienot Месяц назад

The definition by Lee that Mike quoted, is one of the most popular among Christian researchers and about as simplified as possible: (1) Deviation on fundamental truth about the Person and work of Christ; (2) a source of authority outside of Scripture; (3) efforts to control the members accordingly. Pretty much every quasi-Christian cult ever, and all the definitions Mike collated from his post on twiXer, meta into those three points.

@daduzadude1547 Месяц назад

You’ve just described IsLame

@gregorywootton3870 Месяц назад

By these definitions Jesus was a cult leader.

@daduzadude1547 Месяц назад

@@gregorywootton3870 explain #5 as it applies to Jesus?

@BoyKagome Месяц назад

@@daduzadude1547 And number 2 while you're at it, cause... my bible says "Great Commission".

@kctravis8122 Месяц назад

On behalf of the entire Mike Winger fan club we approve the fresh thumbnails! Thank you so much!

@Sviatoslav_The_Brave Месяц назад

Fan club or a cult? 😅 I'm just joking🙂

@jouraveragechristian Месяц назад

YES!!

@ten4l Месяц назад

@@Sviatoslav_The_Brave The Wingalings are a cult masquerading as a fan club!

@fakeyououtdotcom2409 Месяц назад

Mike Winger fan club or Mike Winger cult? 😂😂

@rolandos8758 Месяц назад

@@Sviatoslav_The_Bravelol 😂

@SpeakerBuilder Месяц назад

In my 67 years of life, the past 28 years as a believer, I find that many Christians, especially those who are exceptionally bright, tend to insist that all questions can be answered, and that given sufficient study of scripture, we can know pretty much all things. This approach has generated many systemic theologies which are mutually exclusive, which leads me to question both the pursuit of this level of understanding of God (1Cor 13), as clearly such an approach does not lead to a uniform understanding of God, but rather leads to confusion, division and strife. Far better that we simply accept that many mysteries remain and that we do not need to know all things in this life, and we instead humbly yield ourselves to the Lord, with confidence that on that day, we will know just as we ourselves are known.

@GigaVic Месяц назад

Well said

@alexr.3504 Месяц назад

Amen.

@OGA103 Месяц назад

I feel one of the major aspects of a cult is the inability to freely leave without being severely shunned by the community OR the actual inability to leave at all. Christianity is built upon a belief in free will and being able to freely choose what to believe. A controlling group that doesn't allow this freedom goes against God's design of free will for humanity.

@Becauseoftheimplicatons Месяц назад

Free will? Jesus and his disciplines were killed for having different beliefs, were they in a cult? Then the Catholic crusades happened where many were killed for their non Christian beliefs, was that a cult? America was built by Christians escaping other Christians to have religious freedom, was that a cult? Many died for the free will you enjoy today, it didn't come easy.

@BrockJamesStory Месяц назад

The Bible says to kick out those living in open sin.

@redlandz1977 Месяц назад

Here’s an aspect that hasn’t been mentioned in specificity… a cult often has a leader, or series of leaders, who will constantly say they have a “new revelation” from God, and that those “revelations” will begin contradicting things they previously said. These revelations often will benefit that leader specifically, or will contradict a previous revelation in a way that is uniquely convenient to a moment in time.

@IntelVoid Месяц назад

This is important to note in distinguishing a cult from a plain old oppressive sect.

@danieldishon688 Месяц назад

The second you make the definition of cult about "it has Leader with X amount of Spiritual authority" you open the door to having your definition turned back against Christian faith in Jesus. Christ was a Leader, who attracted thousands, spoke with authority, and provided new or even special revelation from a certain point of view. And when you start getting into the nitty gritty of making a more nuanced version of that definition so it excludes Jesus, you start to undercut it so much it isn't useful anymore.

@imetal16ddin1 Месяц назад

I liked it when as a kid my pastor would say "Search for yourself and you'll see that I'm right"

@danieldishon688 Месяц назад

@imetal16ddin1 that was just a polite and witty way to end a conversation where you weren't agreeing on something. That's not relevant to anything being discussed here.

@imetal16ddin1 Месяц назад

@@danieldishon688 that was when he was preaching.

@Jacques.Smith_ Месяц назад

I think the most common characteristic between cults, is the taboo of questioning the leadership.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

Yup yup, don't question the bible, it's from God, check....

@theeternalsbeliever1779 Месяц назад

This is another loaded generalization that needs to be specified. Apostate and heretical ministers in the 1st century often questioned the apostles' authority or undermined their authority. Matter of fact, all of but 2 church eras eventually fell away from the truth because they rebelled against God's ministers, including the era that Christ Himself founded(Rev. 2:4-6)!

@Jacques.Smith_ Месяц назад

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_GeoguessrHere's another common characterstic, of fools, in this case. Everyone who posts nonsense like this, have never read the Bible.

@Jacques.Smith_ Месяц назад

@@theeternalsbeliever1779This is a comment on RU-vid, not a comprehensive study on every aspect of cults.

@Jacques.Smith_ Месяц назад

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_GeoguessrYou find comfort in ignorance, just like every other fool who never bothers to study a topic they argue.

@nesbe3174 Месяц назад

The new hour or so long format is great, It's my new favorite thing to watch on a Saturday morning. Much Love from Australia Mike and Team :)

@Georgie-br5wb Месяц назад

Same ! I’m in Aus too and started listening thismorning when I got out of bed.

@annadobrucka16 Месяц назад

Same but I'm from the Czech Republic

@RobbieJayOne Месяц назад

I agree about the overuse of the word "cult". It can shut down a conversation with someone heavily indoctrinated into a dangerous false religion.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

Like Christianity.

@SuperEdge67 Месяц назад

What exactly is a false religion? Every religious person would consider every religion other than there’s false.

@RobbieJayOne Месяц назад

@@SuperEdge67I believe you made a valid point. I do not adhere to any particular institutionalized religion, so I may not have articulated it well. I was a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses for 25 years, but it took me another 30 years after leaving to recognize the harm it can cause. Throughout history, organized religions have inflicted considerable harm in the name of God.

@jonaszswietomierz8017 Месяц назад

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_GeoguessrTell me you don't know the definition of cult without telling me you don't know the definition.

@greenmcbean6429 Месяц назад

SuperEdge67 I am not sure what you mean by this question. Yes, people who adhere to certain religions would believe that other religions are false because each religion is usually completely contradictory. The fact that they are contradictory also means that only one of them can be true, which means the others are not true. The ones that are not true, therefore, would be false religions. It isn’t just a matter of “considering” other religions false, if one is true that the others are ACTUALLY false, regardless of people’s consideration. For example, if Christianity is true, then every religion that contradicts it, such as Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. are factually false religions even though adherents of those religions wouldn’t say so. They would just be wrong.

@midimusicforever Месяц назад

The Wingaling delivers!

@marinagallant1847 Месяц назад

@briggy4359 Месяц назад

🤓

@rebekahearly1144 Месяц назад

To define a cult, I like the BITE model. A cult controls Behaviour, Information, Thought and Emotion. A cult isn’t just any group that is controlling, it’s a group where people’s own thoughts and emotions are truly formed by what they are told by the leaders. If a person is under a controlling leader and is able to spot that and decide to leave, I’m not sure it’s quite the same as a true cult.

@maxspringer01 Месяц назад

bingo. I hope Mike could possibly answer this cult question again at a later time after doing some research and bring some of this information to his answer, because there are specific things to look out for (a la the BITE model etc). The cult question is a little like the beard question - when does a beard become a beard? It's hard to know exactly when a group becomes a cult, but there are certainly characteristics we can identify, and the more there are, the more the red flags are waving.

@theeternalsbeliever1779 Месяц назад

This BITE model can be applied to the Protestant Reformers, because they used those tactics to make ppl conform to their theology, no matter how wrong it obviously was. And yet, Protestants always allow the Reformers to be exempt from the kind of scrutiny that the use with groups who have different beliefs.

@briggy4359 Месяц назад

Does Christianity apply to the BITE model? I think the missing piece of BITE is that cults teach lies.

@greyspot00 Месяц назад

@@maxspringer01 I think that's fair. As a Christian, without any church leadership involved, Christ controls my behavior, the information I take in, tells me to control my thoughts ("think on these things"), and how I should feel. I think BITE is a good way to sort it out but even then, it's loose enough to turn the average Christian into a cult member.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Regarding time: Westerners often don't understand biblical ideas and concepts because they think in "either/or" categories. The Bible, however, is written from an eastern mindset, which is "both/and." An attribute of God is that He is timeless. He created "time" and then, remaining timeless, He chose to transcend time -- and interact with His creation inside the time that He had created. In other words, God is "both" timeless "and" transcendent at the same time.

@mickknight6963 Месяц назад

So you are saying that in the East I would have to use EITHER the "both/and" logic OR nothing else? I'm not following your logic.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

I see what you did there, @@mickknight6963 . 🙂

@Deusregere Месяц назад

I was a bit on the fence about trusting your theology - but your response about women as pastor/elder is spot on. I really appreciate what you are doing! That issue is stimulated by feminism. We didn’t make up the rules but we must respect the rules.

@claudiaperfetti7694 Месяц назад

This content is so neccesary, not only because of its content, but because of your christian presence in our lives. I'm visiting my newly atheist son and need to hear you talk about Christ.

@Owen_Hi Месяц назад

You can go to his website and search for any questions you have. But also, he's answering questions people have, not just ones he wants to answer. Every question he answers helps somebody. He also has a lot of content on how to help atheists, and many other people have done work on what to do in your situation.

@rubenthekid Месяц назад

Honestly, time really is a concept God established for us at creation, but we live in a persistent world, just as God is a constant/persistent being. Time is a construct, not a physical barrier, something developed for timekeeping/datekeeping.

@dana5757 Месяц назад

Господи, Помилуй! Господи, Прости!

@ElijahConnatser Месяц назад

I love this new wider angle!!!

@deesymons8545 Месяц назад

Amen Please continue to pray for my grandchildren who live with me and myself for healing and protection and safety Also favour from the authorities to keep us together Thank you

@Bila-hu4qw Месяц назад

I just prayed for you.

@madsocsci Месяц назад

Schucks - just missed this episode live. I extracted 24 cult characteristics from Ross, Singer and Lifton during some of my past research. They were on a video on a channel that got deleted. Maybe I'll recreate it and put it up again. Very useful stuff. Meanwhile - those are 3 great authors on the subject.

@roblangsdorf8758 Месяц назад

Regarding God and time, Chuck Mishler noted that God is a spirit and therefore has no mass. He, therefore, isn't restricted by time.

@grantbartley483 Месяц назад

Also, he created time so is not controlled by it.

@mackle491 Месяц назад

1:17:16 Regarding question 10 I totally agree. The church is called to evangelize, but some people have more of the gift of being a missionary and street ministry (which we think of as evangelism), while others may be more discipling their family and people they know personally while supporting missions. We must either fish or cut bait. It's okay for us to have different roles provided that as a whole we fulfill the great commission.

@debrazimmerman7966 Месяц назад

PRAYER - the Holy Spirit is the one who works in other people. I keep praying- Keep speaking - keep loving.

@unripetheberrby6283 Месяц назад

Thank you for your wisdom and clearer mind about these hard questions Mr. Mike. 😔❤️

@Carissa72 Месяц назад

I personally think a cult boils down to two major points. It’s a group asserting that they are the only ones who have the right answers, and then forbidding questioning. Like, the questions alone will have you removed from the community. Even the scriptures tell us to have humility (in other words, accepting that you could be wrong.) and to test all things. There’s no blind following going on.

@vickim6990 Месяц назад

I wish I could find someone just like you. So understanding, humble, sincere about helping.

@joshuaclark7953 Месяц назад

Mike, thank you so much for doing these, this takes a lot of time and effort I know so I wanted to let you know how encouraging these videos are for me. I absolutely love the way you go straight to scripture to walk through real questions. It is by far my favorite thing that I listen to during the week and it helps me to think of scripture first in more and more situations

@justabill63 Месяц назад

Thank you for these episodes. I can't tell you how many of these questions are ones I have asked or am currently pondering. I appreciate your point of view and the humility you express. May God bless you and your ministry.

@clarkemorledge2398 Месяц назад

On question #8 at 1:00:37, Michael Heiser in the The Unseen Realm and and Stephen De Young in The Religion of the Apostles have done great work in showing how the Old Testament gave us the clues as to how the New Testament writers pieced together the elements which eventually led to the development of the doctrine of the Trinity expressed at the Council of Nicea. Also see the work by rabbinical scholar Segal, Alan F. Two Powers in Heaven: Early Rabbinic Reports about Christianity and Gnosticism which shows how Second Temple Jews thought of there being two Yahweh figures, which paved the way towards the New Testament. Really awesome stuff.

@lauragb3677 Месяц назад

I learn so much with each Q&A video. Thank you.

@crystallineautumn Месяц назад

I really needed to hear the last few minutes of this. Thank you. 🙏🏻

@Keirfey Месяц назад

My childhood was a lot like that old Brittish show... All Creatures Great and Small.

@retronostalgiafan8635 Месяц назад

I also pray for my dad, mike, and slowly, but surely I’m noticing God’s working in his life more often and I believe God is doing the same for your dad and I pray that your dad trusts the lord just as we believers in the church believe in Christ! 🙏

@karendavis8764 Месяц назад

I love listening to you dig intro scripture and just wrestle with it. You cause me to wrestle with my theology and dig into scripture to do my best to figure it out. Thank you these videos probably take you quite awhile to put together.

@alexanderschimper9722 Месяц назад

Thanks, Mike

@ryantannar5301 Месяц назад

I had no idea Matthew was doing stuff in the public sphere. He's a buddy of mine from college that I fell out of contact with like most people from college. That's pretty awesome!

@ih82r8 Месяц назад

I always appreciated Dr. Walter Martin's description of a cult: "a group of people gathered about a specific person-or person's misinterpretation of the Bible," while admitting that in spite of "distorting Scripture" such groups' teachings may contain "considerable truths" that have Biblical support but have become de-emphasized by mainstream Christianity, such as divine healing and prophecy.

@JoysFunYT Месяц назад

Thanks! Great video!

@1MCR13 Месяц назад

Great content. I learned a lot thank you again.

@dereklakin1001 Месяц назад

Mike, I love your study and rational approach. One of the best on YT As a man who loves Jesus and wants to see a sound doctrine above all. The church is not a denomination. May God continue to do what he has you doing so well

@joshuapennell8529 Месяц назад

On question 5, I tend to take an All-knowing Programmer view of God's relation to time. He set things up to go, in His infinite wisdom, knowing how all possibilities will take shape, working everything together for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. That theory is good enough for me!

@user-jt5wz9bb8g Месяц назад

Yay! I speak Visayan Mike. Glad you've been to Philippines. I've been living in Australia since married to my husband, and we both love and pray for you and the ministry God entrusted to you.

@dcoff2443 Месяц назад

Thank you brother appreciate your response… I find myself becoming “rogue” and easily offended after being abused “spiritual and probably perceptively” as you mentioned… I’ve been through counseling and mentorship… I’ve struggled with the submission part to leadership bc I’m afraid I can’t tell the difference sometimes… and it’s not healthy so I thank you for helping myself and others be wary and understanding of our own capacities to shun what is good and what we’re called to in fellowship and under leadership in a good church… but also the weight my mind & flesh can wage war emotionally in the midst what could also be spiritual attack… I yearn for more maturity and yet lack the follow through in following what God says in requirement for it… thanks again.

@judimunro9279 Месяц назад

Yes. And it is important to find a good church. I keep having to leave when I see there is problematic teaching off Bible.

@AmyStruxMillz Месяц назад

Very cool. 32:55 This is why Michael Heiser said “I felt like Paul- “ when speaking with a RU-vidr who worships Greek gods

@katieriggs7952 Месяц назад

"If Christianity is a cult, everything is a cult". Well done Mike!

@zacharymulford4172 Месяц назад

My church has been called a cult a few times over the years because we do biblical church discipline and we are involved in each other's lives beyond Sunday morning. Cults pervert those things (controlling- think BITE model/love bombing/etc.) but that doesnt mean we then shrink back from doing what the word of God says.

@natashalucas5082 Месяц назад

🇹🇹The globe is back!!! Yay!

@the1_grammy503 Месяц назад

#4. Mike you prayed the same prayer I’ve prayed over people that I couldn’t reach or were out of my reach. I always ask God to send someone into their life who can communicate on the lost person’s level. It’s my prayer that the lost person would see something in them that would make them want what they have. I also pray that the lost person will become so uncomfortable in their own skin that they will turn to God. There are so many ways to try and reach a lost person that don’t directly involve me. Prayer is a powerful tool! Also, we do have a tendency to beat around the bush. Telling someone that they are going to spend eternity (remind them of the definition of eternity) burning in hell seems harsh but it’s the honest truth and we want to save everyone from experiencing that. The lost person will also have a never ending tape playing through their brain, tormenting them, repeating every opportunity we extended to them to become a part of God’s family. #5. If God is the Alpha and the Omega, hasn’t He always been?🤔

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

And God never does. Praise God for his wisdom and gaslighting.

@stanleywollman8276 Месяц назад

Thank you.

@justmorenoise Месяц назад

That was great you got the “time” question right after you said it wasn’t your area of expertise.. questions were already in too 🤯🤯🤯

@SimpleQuietLife Месяц назад

Thanks, Mike!

@paulm8885 Месяц назад

I started listening while working around the house. And was confused. I mean everyone knows a colt is a young male horse.

@Eyesofmars2040 Месяц назад

Please Mike. Please do an episode on Kip Mckean’s ICC/ICOC. It been an almost 30 year mental struggle for us. I think it would help a lot of people to have some clarity.

@brianwagner781 Месяц назад

There's an excellent point near the end of the cult section. There are certainly churches with leaders that overstep their legitimate authority. And many that teach wrong or wrongly consider their convictions to be law over everyone. But their are also people who will not accept correction, will be offended by teaching that goes against their lifestyle or sensibilities. And call any of that abuse. People often like to see themselves in the best possible light, and those they are at odds in the worst.

@heatherdeaton2223 Месяц назад

Love your shirt. Good da beauty sings of a glorious Creator. Jesus is King.

@deborahthebaptist Месяц назад

This is an important discussion. The word Cult is thrown around too much. Defining terms is important. I think an important distinction in the Church is to ask if you're following the Lord or a man? Are you able to read God's Word for yourself or are you encouraged to put another person's word above God's Word?

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

Following the Lord though is just following men that said a long time ago that they were speaking for the Lord. What is really the difference between people who claim that now and people that claim that then? And if you just follow the "holy spirit" or what you "feel" is God, you're really just following yourself because how can you even know if it's God or you.

@kevinhullinger8743 Месяц назад

Well done 🙏

@micahiah2 Месяц назад

Looking good bro! Love the T!

@acombs1250 Месяц назад

Question 4. I'm sorry about your situation. I think Mike was right towards the end by the direct approach. As difficult as that might be Jesus said, “Matthew 10:12 -14 (NASB) As you enter the house, give it your greeting. If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.” Unfortunately, people will reject the good news; this person happens to be a parent. The Bible has examples of shaking dust off your feet or no casting your pearl before swine (Matt 7:6) to those who reject the gospel. Keep praying, may God bless you.

@skillstacker9268 Месяц назад

The concept of time in relation to God's creation is very interesting to me. Most interesting is the consideration of whether or not time will exist in His new creation.

@timm439 Месяц назад

Time will have to exist for as long as any matter (other than God) exists, because He’s the only eternal “thing” in existence. We are finite beings (even if God allows us to continue existing and keeping time going forever). Time isn’t just about time/date keeping - without time there’s nothing that happens after something else.. o cause and effect, etc.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

That is one way to look at it, @@timm439. Another way is that "God exists" and He is, thus, timeless. God created "time" and chose to transcendently interact with His creation, while still remaining timeless. It is a "both/and" framework: at the same time, God is both timeless and transcendent.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Jesus talks about "this age" and "the age to come." The Bible also has references to "the end of the age " and "forever and ever."

@F1lasers Месяц назад

For question 7: mark on hand and forehead is mentioned in scripture outside of revelation. In Exodus 13:16 it mentions worship/obedience/testimony being like a mark on hand or forehead and in revelation it mentions worshiping the beast and his image coinciding with the mark of the beast.

@janetdavis6473 Месяц назад

Yay! The globe is back!🥰😻

@Made-For-God Месяц назад

I will always define a cult as this: Any system of belief (religious or otherwise) that does not allow you to question the belief. Does this mean a tyranny is a cult? No, not necessarily because a tyranny isn't inherently a system of belief but rather a system of governance. Can a tyranny also be a cult? Absolutely.

@katyellison8952 Месяц назад

Q4: Our job is just to plant the seeds and pray tirelessly. The Holy Spirit does the rest. There's great peace in that.

@richardyounger5129 Месяц назад

I went to school with Matt Mittleburg how cool seeing him on here!

@texasskygirl7890 Месяц назад

#5. There are so many things we will never understand about God. Time is a mindboggling thing. I think alot of times we are just triangles trying to understand a pyramid.

@timm439 Месяц назад

Theologically I don’t see any other option than God is outside and inside of time. He must be outside because of His foreknowledge proven via prophecy. He must be inside time because of the example Mike gave of Jesus.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Agreed. God is both timeless and transcendent, at the same time. It is a "both/and" framework of understanding.

@toddderfiny8844 Месяц назад

I Am The Alpha and Omega ie the beginning and the end....so He is everything in between...God sees All time as now...that's how He knows your beginning from end and what you will choose ie free will...a verse that even may imply that...I knew you from the foundation of the heavens and earth..we're constrained by time due to the fall God is not

@fernandoformeloza4107 Месяц назад

The revolving globe is back!

@ettamargason7709 Месяц назад

Cool Shirt Pastor Mike!❤

@hardcore907 Месяц назад

New setup is FIRE

@ForceOfWill_777 Месяц назад

I only just now realized that the live streams don't come up in my subscriptions, but I can find them under the live tab in your channel... I always thought that if I didn't make your live streams that I was out of luck and couldn't ever see them. I have A LOT of live streams to get through now!

@cbak1819 Месяц назад

Your not alone Pastor Mike about etc.

@CindyluHawkins-lb8ht Месяц назад

Jesus came to Save !!! W/O that..if newbies are reading that could lead them wrong besides taking away from the BOOK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME 😊

@LetTalesBeTold Месяц назад

Haven’t gotten to the end of the discussion, but on the model of time- I imagine it like a stream, flowing in one constant direction and never reversing, but that stream is “encapsulated” and, from a broad enough point of view, that capsule can be viewed from start to end by anyone outside of it, i.e. God. So, it’s both a “start to finish” kind of thing from the micro, but a “all at once” from the macro. Still mind boggling though! 😵‍💫

@dragonslayer7587 Месяц назад

My thoughts on time and God. Since we KNOW God is a triune God and outside of time, {he created time}, we look at Jesus. He lived within time when he took on flesh, and walked the Earth. After he asended to Heaven, he sent the Holy Spirit who lives within us, and communicates with the Father on our behalf. {sometimes when we can only groan}, The Holy Spirit is in our comunicator, conscience and intercessor. So God is both within time, and outside time. I can't limit God to either\or. He's way beyond that, and this is obviously beyond my ability to communicate it in this comment!! If anyone reads this, please tell me what you think! I've got this rolling around in my head now!! Thanks and God Bless!

@junk3996 Месяц назад

you start your sentence off with a couple pretty heavy handed assumptions "since we KNOW God is a triune God and outside of time". well you pretty much made up your mind right there, didn't ya. kinda doesn't leave any room for anything else.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Actually, @@junk3996, we "know" this from the biblical text. Are you unfamiliar with the scriptures?

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Yes, God is both timeless and transcendent, at the same time. It is a "both/and" way of understanding the concept.

@bridgettskorner Месяц назад

Hey Brother Mike! I love watching your videos, so insightful and informative. I love that subscribe button, it's so polite. I wanted to ask if I could use something similar or is it something exclusive to your channel? Thank you and keep doing what you're doing.

@FBCTrona Месяц назад

The word Cult is simply short for Culture, and early on referred to any group that seems to have an identifying behavior or culture. The term was not meant in anyway to be negative. I think today it probably is best understood in the negative as a group that has a general description (Like Christian), but in it's behavior and culture identifies itself outside the norm (Like Mormonism) .

@jacquelynwebb3935 Месяц назад

Thanks ❤😂🎉

@FAITHFULsk8r Месяц назад

😅 0:07 another great example of Brother Mike's humor. 👌

@jgalt8128 Месяц назад

God is outside of time, specifically the time domain we exist in. He has to be outside of it in order to have created the time domain we are in. The best analogy to use in order to understand how God perceives time for us is to think of an ant farm. Think of all the ants being the same ant but at different moments in time simultaneously. God sees the beginning of time, everything in between, and the end of time all at the same instant. This is why it is possible to have a paradox called "The Bible" - a book (in the present) telling us what happens in the future before it happens.

@tajdavis9958 Месяц назад

Yes. God existed before time and is not a slave to it like we are. He is the master of time and can affect how He sees fit. Time is Gods instrument.

@dansands6363 Месяц назад

35:02 Shabibaladibalado ain’t got nothin’ on Jesus 💪

@themadscientist40k Месяц назад

When God spoke let there be light, a wave propagated across creation. That wave allows observation of time. From our point of view. Time is very relative. As well if there are higher dimensions time would change observable properties with each added dimension. Maybe 🤔

@wintersking4290 Месяц назад

The problem with saying "groups that want to control people" is that also lumps in groups which promote self-control and general obedience to God and morality like baseline Christianity.

@viperstriker4728 Месяц назад

Not really. Telling people to control themselves and doing the control for them look very different. It's subtle, but a big difference when you look at the motivations. And the only reason why sin came into the world is because God let us choose. He could have taken away our control right from the beginning, but He chose to give us a choice. When people want control, they use manipulation and coercion to take away choice. People that want control don't forgive, because it sets a bad example for the social coercion they have going on everyone else.

@Keirfey Месяц назад

Small towns like Deadwood are strange... you can have a Catholic minister as your next door neighbor and still be the abused woman next door. I need a Church family. I tried to bring Jesus back into the heart of a 20-year AF Vet. My DAD was AF, but he's been buried in Sturgis since 2013... my ex-"boyfriend" stared at a ring box for a year and wouldn't HONOR my family about it. Nick claims Buddha... not Christ.

@andrewweygand2705 Месяц назад

On your response to the question about time. I agree. It is definitely above our pay grade. I wonder though if an analogy that might work is that if time is one of the things created by God(and it is) then how he interacts with it doesn't necessarily correspond to the way we, as also created beings, would interact with it. For example, in my house, there are doorknobs that I can manipulate to travel between rooms, but my dog can not. She just sees me doing something to this other something, and mysteriously a third something opens up and allows both her and I to travel into another area of the house. We, as finite beings, are bound by physical laws that God, being infinite, is not. I'm not sure if this makes sense or not.

@starfire451 Месяц назад

A cult is just a group of people who are isolated or insular (secular or religious) in which they can develop their own unique traditions that become its 'cult'ure. That's how early tribes develop. Tribes become cities. Cities become nations, etc. That's where cultures spring from. It's got nothing to do with religion only. If a comet cult ironically turn out to be the only survivors of a comet impact, then their beliefs become mainstream, spreading/meming their culture onto future generations.

@LifeOnHoth Месяц назад

Always appreciate these videos even tho we are seeing some stuff different ways sometimes. One practical feedback on production. I listen to these videos on my yammy nearfields - they got some proper bass elements, and the low-end in the audio is hmmm. very apparent. I don't know what setup you are using for streaming, but I'd see if there is a possibility to cut out some of the bass on your voice. It's almost as if there is a feedback lurking around on the low ends even. I know you appreciate good sound so thought I'd mention it as it would become less fatiguing to listen to if you fix it :).

@davidschefter4160 Месяц назад

Cool shirt Mike.

@slemley8337 Месяц назад

I think the distinction of a cult is free will. A cult from my perspective, is if you elect to remove yourself from the group, you are prevented, via reprograming, and other methods. Scientology is an example.

@dawnscheerhoorn9583 Месяц назад

Cults are the group that don't think for themselves. They worship the pastor instead of what the Bible says!

@marcushochstetler4829 Месяц назад

I grew up in a Amish community and was after 16 yrs my wife and our children left the amish and we felt like it was cultish but would love your take Mike,

@doms5755 Месяц назад

Why did you feel it was cultish?

@justinj_00 Месяц назад

Most people on the internet just use the word "cult" to mean "religion I don't like" which is usually just Evangelical Christianity

@doriscastro8414 Месяц назад

I can’t forgive myself for not being able to see you live . Huge Line at Costco on Friday . 😅.

@ItsTheMagicalAmount Месяц назад

Hi Mike, in regard to whether or not Jews were starting to think of God as multi-personal, check out the second temple period idea of the “two powers in heaven.” This idea was eventually rejected as Christianity grew.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

Correct. Around 100 A.D. or so, the rabbis ruled the teaching as a heresy -- probably because so many Jews were converting to Christianity.

@przemeksledziewski1973 Месяц назад

What's the difference between a religion and a cult? A religion has more people.

@judimunro9279 Месяц назад

Ahhhhhh: “ the god of Jabibilidibiledo!” Had me snorting with laughter!

@angelirohival6270 Месяц назад

God exists outside of time. We, humans are the ones who are stuck “ in time” God just created our system of the sun, day light, night time, etc. He just chose this system for us. When we get to heaven, we can ask Him these difficult questions, but, will it even matter then? Why is it even important? What is important is telling people about Jesus so they don’t spend an eternity where there is no God.

@IndianaJoe0321 Месяц назад

... yet God also transcends time and actively works within His creation. It is a "both/and" framework.