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There are a lot of songs that get associated with older bands now-a-day that weren't big when released and vice-a-versa. I associate Heart with Baracudda and Magic Man because those are the only songs I have heard. But looking at where those songs charted, they were low, and when looking at the 'hits' the band had it's a bunch of songs I had never heard of. I am old enough to cross reference this phenomenon with The Offspring when 'Fly for a white guy' and 'My friends got a girlfriend' got continuous air play. But anyone who had the full album realised these were the worst songs. I am not sure which Offspring songs will endure in the future but I am pretty sure 'my friend got a girlfriend' will be entirely forgotten. Another example would be that I associate ELO with 'Mr. Blue Sky' because it appears so much in media. But people from the generation when it came out tend to not even know it exists because they didn't watch "The Gaurdians of the Galaxy" or whatever. It is a general concept but I feel there are at least two lists in there.
I've been subbing 43 since... I dunno, mid-90's? It has the same flow & rhyme to it. (& I may have switched a few other words) She's only 43... (43) Grandkids say she's too young but she's old enough for me!
I can respect Jon's take on All in the family. So, it's been a super long time since I last heard One in a Million, and decided to look up the lyrics. Holy hell, I guess that's the big difference between knowing a song when you're 16 and knowing it again when you're 42. I knew Winger would be on here, I'm surprised Warrent isn't on this list. I guess that's for a second video on the topic? You could fill up a playlist of songs that haven't aged well by popular bands.
There’s also Brian Setzer/Stray Cats with Sexy and Seventeen which is an older song cover, IIRC. To me, all the stuff shows the time all the stuff was getting shut down from the drug party’s of the 60’s and 70’s
17 is legal in most states and countries around the world, so it's not really that big a deal. 16 is the average age of consent around the world, in general. Not saying it's wrong or right, just pointing out a fact.
@@danielmiller3596 Don't forget about the Beatles with the song "I Saw Her Standing There." The first two lines of the song: "Well, she was just seventeen/You know what I mean."
But a classic nonetheless. I don't really hate any of these songs. Though it is always weird when you hear songs talking about 16 to 17 year olds. Yuck. I certainly don't like the hating of the older generation. And vice versa for the new generation. But the new generation should not be too critical or high and mighty when they are pretty much the offspring of those they deem are out of touch. Whether they want to admit or not. I don't like people saying that oh well this is a better generation. No it's overall the same and can think the same ways those of the past did.
I agree. My best friend is trans and she doesn’t get offended at all. We both like the song and think it’s funny that Steven thinks Vince Neil looked like a lady when he himself also dresses very feminine.
@@skiinggator problem of course being that almost nobody knows it's about Vince Neil and just assume it's about a random trans person and shut their ears to be offended.
My brother is very feminine looking from behind so it's something he hears a lot LOL Men always hit on me and ask if I got a sister and I just reply "if you squint a bit my oldest brother looks like one" because it's happened frequently enough where guys think my brother is a woman (it's even happened to where my dad's coworkers thought it was from a distance and my dad could get a good laugh)
The Megadeth song that comes to mind for me in this case is “Hook In Mouth.” Specifically the “F.R.E.E.D.O.M.” verses since it’s fun to look back at some lyrics that may have aged poorly but we cannot use that as an excuse for censorship. Also the solo in that song was so nice they did it twice!
@@abstractheory1 Some of us have wide-ranging tastes. I love Megadeth, but love Adele equally. I live(musically) by the saying there are only 2 kinds of music: Good music and bad music. I once had that same kind of musical tunnel vision: I would've(and did) listened to Megadeth and would not've(and didn't) listened to Adele. Being musically open-minded is far more interesting and fun.
Obviously not a rock song but I've never seen a song age so quickly in real time as Blurred Lines. Went from number 1 to problematic to destroying Robin Thicke's career in like a week.
"Money For Nothing" is as awesome now as it was when it was released and will remain so long after anyone who takes offense from it is dead and buried. And that is a win in my book! 👍🏻
The month it was released, I actually was in a diner, and two dudes who worked construction were going on and on about how they didn't think musicians were doing anything so special, so why should women go after them instead of, say, construction workers. I couldn't stop giggling because I was like, "I think Mark Knopfler just wrote about this conversation."
“Dude looks like a lady” was the opening track to a drag show that I was in for 10 years, and when that song starts my blood pressure still skyrockets because I was never ready on time and that song let me know I had 10 minutes till showtime.
😂😂😅I was in a band for about a year and a half-ish and I can relate to that panic when it was about time to go up there. Having social anxiety I wonder now why I put myself through all of that. Never even wanted to be in a famous band or anything. I just liked playing guitar.
I suppose "Rock 'n Roll N***er" by Patti Smith would count were it not for the fact that with the exception of Jimi Hendrix, everyone she name drops in that song was either white or whatever the hell Jesus was. As far as I know, she still performs the song today.
Oh God I keep forgetting that song exists. Also the fact that Marilyn Manson of all people covered it isn't even remotely surprising in hindsight but it's still weird that happened.
@@JamieNova Manson's cover was purely for shock value, to be fair. The way he shouted it over and over towards the end was just him being an edgelord and completely ignoring Smith's original intentions with the song.
@@SavoxYT Yeah that's a good point, I just meant because of the recent allegations that it's not surprising that he actually thought it would be remotely smart to go there.
@@JamieNova American Head Charge did a cover of it as well. Imo, the sound and structure are MUCH better than Mansons version, but its still an obnoxiously offensive song Also, Manson told us who he was for his entire career. His fascist imagery. Homophobic lyrics. The recent accusations just seal what we all should have known. I cant even listen to him anymore, and that sucks because Pale Emperor is one of my top albums of the 2010s.
Exactly?!! this guy is talking about song from 70s to 90s. Why is it that rap can demean women and get away with singing crap like s**k t**s, you are my b***h and so on in 2022? How come they can take the piss of gays and and talk about "capping people"?? Some rap songs are more offensive than all these 10 song put together.
@@marcocave8867 because he is grifting for views and praise so if you think this video is honest you’re mistaken. It’s basically let’s point to all the old white men dinosaurs and nothing more. This host fails to understand “Money For Nothing” and it wasn’t inspiration but rather the song was MOCKING that guy. But again this is the white guy ragging on white guys doing the “see how bad those guys are and I’m so not” routine.
I remember how NWA had a song about tying a woman up to a chair and killing her but first he had to let all of his homies Rape her. But black flag is a problem !! But when your work you can't say anything about the African-American or you're a racist.
I agree with the original version of "Money for Nothin'" because it changed how people view the music industry as well as the work put into the songs. It appeared that some people really believe that it's that easy to be a musician.
Nowadays we got people blowing up on SoundCloud for tracks they made in their bedrooms while still in school. Independent music was seemingly unheard of back then. Just comes to show how much the music Industry has changed
ohh noo you can't find a fertile woman attraactiiveee noooooo take Sally the old used up roast beef having miserable toad that will suck the life out of youuu noooooo
I recently just watched korn's live with fred durst. all in the family was so edgy and cool when I was a kid. it just shows that everyone's childhood is just a series of cringe events and behaviour no matter what generation you belong.
I was at the 96 Family values tour that end on Halloween. I remember them preforming this on stage and thinking it was the greatest thing ever. Now I go back and watch it, and I just shake my head.
Not really man they just released yet another killer album , lol was nominated for a Grammy in orchestral composition lol I’d say they were fine then and they are more than fine now. All extremely successful and talented guys
There's a track on Back in Black with highly, highly dubious lyrics, but I was a teen when I first heard it and it was the whole package that got me hooked. I don't skip it when I play the album these days because the whole thing still just utterly rocks, although the bit about not fighting is...not great.
“Let Me Put My Love Into You” is one of the highlights of the album. I’m gonna give AC/DC the benefit of the doubt on this one because they only sing about a few topics and I guess the fighting lyrics got mixed with the songs about chicks lyrics. I think back then there was a lot of songs about putting up a fight meaning being hard to get but yeah that phrasing is incriminating. And just like the whole jailbait thing, the term putting up a fight is everywhere in classic rock and other genres of the day. Either that or the world was filled with predators! As for Poison’s “I Want Action,” Bret Michaels seems like the kinda dude that would treat a woman with class. Those lyrics are just an outright lie hahaha. Actually heard an interview with one of the girls from Rock of Love and they brought up an interesting point when asked if Bret is one of those scumbag rockers. She said even after the show she gets invited to his concerts and it’s out of friendship and she said if there was anything out there you’d think the “me too” movement would’ve dug that dirt up. So I wonder who in the band wrote those lyrics.
@@freeparking301 It's definitely a product of its time, which is reason one why I'm not going to cancel them. They also sing songs about women getting the better of them, which is reason two. Also, it's pretty much an outlier of a lyric. It's not great from a modern perspective, but I agree that it's most likely about being "hard to get" and it definitely ain't Ted Nugent writing about underage girls in his '30s and singing about them for decades afterwards.
To clarify, I’m not personally canceling anyone. I’ve seen Poison 6 times in concert and Bret when he was doing his RoL tour. I’m just saying that line would not fly in today’s “woke” society.
I disagree that Dude Looks Like a Lady has aged badly. If you listen to the lyrics carefully, HE STILL GOES HOME WITH THE DUDE. Dude Looks Like a Lady, like Lola (the Kinks), appears to be about a fella that hooks up with a drag queen, and FOLLOWS THROUGH. What's more progressive than that?
"So never judge a book by its cover Or who you gonna love by your lover Love put me wise to her love in disguise She had the body of a Venus Lord, imagine my surprise" Sure sounds like the singer went home with her, and had a great time. ;D
8:50 Mark Knopfler wrote what the dude said, to tell in the song about this point of view. That is just how reality was and you cannot censor art that tries to show a real happening or story.
I always defend Brown Sugar like I do the novel Lolita - sometimes literature has an unreliable narrator. You are supposed to think the character is a horrible person.
The subject matter might be worthwhile, but the melody and delivery of the lyrics are more suitable for a fun party anthem. On a lot of lists of misunderstood songs, there's always a bunch that are misunderstood because people don't listen carefully to the lyrics, and Brown Sugar is halfway there - some of them are what the band members describe, but some of them seem like the fit with the 'Hot black chicks, amirite?' fun-time party vibe that the overall music conveys. Compare that to, say, 'Every Breath You Take' by The Police, which has an unsettling feeling to it even if the listener hasn't figured out that it's about a stalker and not a lover.
I agree with that too. Sometimes you can't always assume the narrator is doing good, and that they don't have to explicitly tell you that the subject matter is bad because it obviously is. Kinda like in the song "Angel of Death" by Slayer. They don't have to tell you that the Holocaust is bad because you should already assume that.
For "Dude Looks Like a Lady", Desmond Child, who co-wrote it, said that this wasn't REALLY the full or accurate story about the song. The truth, according to him, is that Steven's initial chorus for the instrumental demo, was "Cruisin' For The Ladies", but Desmond thought it was too basic, so it got reworked to "Dude Looks Like a Lady". The Vince Neil situation happened after the record was already written etc., but had yet to be released. \m/
@@nikkirose1719 Paul McCartney also wrote a song about various "men who thought they were a woman", and then proceeds to tell them to get back to where they once belonged.
I was born in 2002, i grew up on every song on this list...and to hell with you and your beliefs i will blast stranglehold and sing along to dude looks like a lady till my heart eventually gives out. All great songs
There's a radio station near me that regularly plays the unedited version of Money For Nothing. But bleeps out "goddamn" in the Eagles "Life In the Fast Lane" and "bullshit" in Pink Floyd's "Money."
I can't hate on Dude Looks Like a Lady simply because of the image of Robin Williams as Mrs Doubtfire doing air guitar with a broom conjures up in my head and I smile. XD
I've seen Winger several times. Seventeen is always on the set list and lyrics are never changed. Kip does joke about how old she'd be today. (She just turned 51)
Under my Thumb always sounded way worse than Brown Sugar to me. Musicians often write/sing from a non-personal perspective though, doesn't always mean that's how they feel.
To be fair, under my thumb wasn’t a good vs bad type story. Mick Jagger claims it’s about a woman who abuses her male partner only for the man to turn the tables on her and become an abusive partner himself. It’s more of a bad vs bad type Situation.
I don't think it matters what they think or feel, both you and I are capable of forming our own thoughts about pretty much any subject. I am ok with some of the rock artist I listen too being dicks or whatever else they are.
I looked up lyrics to seventeen Christine 16 and now jailbait in order I'm pretty sure I'm on the registry now. In a serious note tho idk how the hell jailbait is a real song that's actually insane
@@sarah2.017 i’ve heard the song many times, what’s so satirical about it? and more importantly does the song need to be satirical to make the point it’s trying to make? No.
If you want a Top 20 song that aged poorly both times it was released, check out Into The Night by Benny Mardones. It makes Seventeen and Christine Sixteen seem almost wholesome by comparison.
That’s a wonderful song. Literally, this is the only time in the history of humankind that condemns past prejudices so well, but could not help but pick out a new one that everyone can be okay to get offended about. You know what, I’d hate to be a son or daughter of someone who thought with such a puritanical, mindset, bc if one now truly thinks 16/17 makes that much difference in only an ‘age’; then I guess that parent wld not allow their son to drive a car at 16; making split decisions that wld endanger the lives of everyone on the road, bc guess what, they do. Maybe this new style of helicopter parent would think some kind of Fairy waves a magic wand over your daughters head on her 18th b day, where all of a sudden he or she can go to war, strip tease & endanger herself in front of a gangster crowd, work in a hardened prison as a guard, & become a lady of the night where legal, but by God..a day earlier at 17..& that fairy just hasn’t whispered all the things in her ear to just allow consent, but at 18 it jumps to all that BIG STUFF. I think there should be a natural progression upwards, not just a BIG LEAP ya know. Question is, is this the mentality we’ve adopted now? Bc, SOMEHOW, I feel like this one will be the one that hasn’t aged well in the future
@@TINInBILLY Here's a list of past prejudices condemned by other generations. Colonialism, Slavery, the Monarchy, Child Abuse, Vote oppression and I could keep going. Condemnation is not anything new, it's just ramped up. Maybe the age of 18 might seem arbitrary, but a line has to be drawn somewhere from a legal stand point. So what are you saying? A line shouldn't be drawn anywhere? It's a losing battle to take that stance because the younger generations are not losing ground on this, they are gaining it. So now matter how much you don't like it, it's happening no matter what. Because it needs to. So I would recommend finding another hill to die on. Your comment is about as rooted in reality as the belief that black and white TV's are going to make a comeback.
@@TINInBILLY We had to pick age at which time one is no longer a child and becomes an adult. Any age picked would have been arbitrary. Some people are mature at 17 and some still act like children at 20. Or older. But 18 is the age we picked, so there it is.
@@Doomzdayxx Well Knopfler apologized for using that word without anyone pushing him into it. Maybe you should take a leaf out of his book or pay attention to what has been said since the recording? You know......so you don't become another brittle minded, unwoken cry baby hoping to go back to the days where you could freely say slurs without consequence?
Being politically correct in music, is what ruined music imo! pretending that perception isnt beautiful, is just unintelligent. i could write a novel talking about how things are., but as a person who hasnt had a social media since myspace, its clear to me how the media has made ppl try their hardest to think a certain way,,, something that will never work in the long run
I just see a overly sensitive man whining when I watch this video. He may have some points but just seems like he searches for reasons to be offended all the time.
One I can think of would be "My Sharona" for the line "never gonna stop give it up, such a dirty mind. I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind"
I absolutely hate it when bands are forced to change lyrics to their songs all because a few people got offended when they heard it on the radio or on social media
Courtney Love says that Ted Nugent molested her when she was 12. Ordinarily I'd say "consider the source", but she seems to believe she was the one who did something wrong- as a survivor myself I can tell you that's a sign it really did happen. It actually makes a whole lot of sense and I'm sorry that happened to her.
ya know, most ppl considers Courtney as a liar and all around crazy woman but looking back at some of the stuff she has said about men in the industry have come to light as being true (ie Harvey Weinstein, Ted Nugent, Duke of York).
@@lisagibson2975 Agreed. Ted Nugent is a fucking piece of shit. I love David Crosby's quote about him not being in the RR Hall of Fame, "He's not good enough and he never will be."
Aerosmith singing in 2022: 🎶 Dude look like a lady🎶 2022: Excuse me!? Aerosmith: 🎶Dude I'm getting canceled🎶 Please don't get mad I'm just making a parody joke.
I'm so sick of hearing about hurt feelings and people being insulted by everything. People really need to get over themselves. I'm not defending any of this but your literally ruining everything. Comedy is already dead and will never be the same. Pretty soon I'm going to be listening to death metal about hugging puppies and eating icecream cones. Cannibal Corpses new album called "We love cats and walks on the beach". We wouldnt want anybody's feelings hurt. It would make them very very sad. Get some help. You will live, I promise.
Most of those songs caused exactly the same controversies when they were released. One of my friends used to sing the Winger song, "She's only 17 / I'm only 32......"
I remember an old interview about Dude Looks like a Lady. Stephen didn't actually say who he wrote it about but the whole band busted up when Vince Neil from Motley Crue walked by 🤣
Honestly, I'm genuinely surprised there was no mention of Sublime, especially Wrong Way, Date Rape (both for obvious reasons thanks to the lyrics) or Caress Me Down (Just because I don't know how well a mention of Ron Jeremy would work in 2022 as compared to 1996). Also regarding that Ted Nugent song, what the actual fuck was he thinking with those lyrics. Like, oh my god...
Honestly I always interpreted WW and DR to be basically warnings against the subject matters of the songs, discouraging the behaviors, but that could just be me. Also Ted Nugent should probably be on a list at this point I feel like.
“Babylon” by Faster Pussycat. It aged horribly on every level possible. The most morally offensive thing about it is the reference to Spanish Fly, but on a purely sonic level it has every bad trend that we regret about the late 80s, and this is coming from a guy who generally likes hair metal.
@@RockedNet I actually got in trouble for listening to Hollywood Undead in high school, my classmate was singing undead out loud. So my teacher said we couldn’t listen to them anymore. In high school, they were my Favourite band. But now, I don’t Listen to Hollywood undead anymore.
Amazed that you missed The Knack's 'My Sharona' Great song, but it's about an older guy obsessed with a highschool girl. 'Such a dirty mind, I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind'
That’s what the Little Girls Do - She's the virgin queen Dancing in your dreams Yes she plays her part If you let her go She will break your ego And your heart
I hate that song to this day, it was a huge hit when I was a Sr in HS, I always say the lead singer, Doug Feiger, was masturbating as he sang that song....
A lot of popular songs from the 60's, 70's , and 80's have lyrics about 17-year old girls. I've often wondered why this is. What is/was the fascination with 17-year-old girls back then?
You can't apply today's standards to yesterday's art. Not to mention the U.S has experienced probably the fastest culture shift in history. Literally over night the rules can and have changed.
At some point I'm going to have to do my research on the guy.... my dad has been the biggest Nugent fan for as long as I can remember, and I had gotten his greatest hits CD when I was a lot younger, mainly just for the song "Cat Scratch Fever", but then a few years ago my younger cousin started pointing out what was wrong with even that song to me, although we still enjoy hearing some of the covers of it. But yeah, was kind of under a rock as far as "why is Ted Nugent bad all of a sudden?" (But, then again, in my mind my dad probably should be a registered sex offender, NOT because of liking Ted Nugent; back in the late 80's, he was arrested for going out driving around in his car, jerking himself off to any woman out walking around at the moment - the lawyer referred to it as "the weenie wag", I don't know if "registered sex offenders" was a thing in those days, so I'm positive that if it was he'd have had to register.... this incident also happened while he was married to my mom and they already had my older brother.
Motley Crue: All in the Name of Rock "You say illegal. I say, legal's never been my scene." Do I need to say more? I recommended this song to my younger brother as a teen. Ah to be discovering 80s rock and be blissfully ignorant.
The song is about Nikki's affection for Tracy Lords, the porn star who started filming when she was only 16. She left the porn industry 2 days after she Turned 18.
Here's the worst I can remember: "Rock queen, thirteen (!!!), buxom blonde bad dream, let me touch your cookies, let me eat your cookies, nowwwww" from "Rock Queen" by Love/Hate
Mark Knopfler doesn’t give a shit what anyone thinks. That’s why he’s still alive and Hendrix is dead. People need to grow up and put on their big boy pants because rock doesn’t care about your damn feelings. If you don’t like rock, listen to ABBA 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Money for Nothing was a satirical take on the negative opinion others had about musicians and those in the music industry. The song was from the perspective of someone who didn't respect musicians. It was meant to show how shitty those people were in the opinion of the band.
I remember turning off the song after hearing it. I was 12 and immediately heard the crazy train keys and went straight to the settings in madden and turned it off😭 09 did turn me on to trivium though 🤘
Many of these songs are products of their time. "Seventeen" was targeted at the audience that would consume it: 13-20 year olds. As a 20ish person in that day, It was WAY too common to meet this amazing hot chick, who looked old enough, who was at an 18+ plus show, who later turned out to have a fake ID, and be 17. And, as said elsewhere, "Money For Nothing" was satire.
Hearing this dude describe rock band behavior as "problematic" is enough for me. There is NOTHING wrong with the lyrics to "Dude Looks Like a Lady"! Lighten up snowflakes, nobody cares how you live which means there's room for jokes at your expense without condemnation.
I remember when my college drama department did a production of an Oscar Wilde play and one of the male actors was playing a role in drag. He stepped out while "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was playing. It makes sense in context.
Completely agree. Hottest take or strongest old man energy I got is my use of the word objectionable where the popular tongue now erroneously defaults to using problematic. You wake up late? Then your car doesn't start? Then you missed the bus? These things are problematic. Prejudice? Inequality? Oppression of the proletariat? That shit is objectionable.
Anytime I use “problematic” it’s in a sarcastic sense partially for the reason you mentioned and partially because it’s so overused like the misuse of “literally” or people misusing -gate as a suffix but I forget that when it’s typed out in a comment section that it can be difficult for people to get that context.
@@jimmym3352 Maybe it's his best known song but we always were partial to Hibernation back in the day. No lyrics too, so unless you are offended by great guitar it's worth a listen.
Brown Sugar and Money For Nothing are both ironic portrayals of bigoted people, similar to many songs by Randy Newman and endless numbers of books and movies.
So I just remembered one time on Facebook I saw some people arguing about how Brown Sugar is actually about heroin addiction or something along those lines, and I'm very confused about that, because how the heck did you get that from the lyrics of the song? Like, I don't understand how the surface level subject matter of the song translates to that.
@@RockedNet Right, like even if the song was theoretically a metaphor for something (which I honestly highly doubt), that seems like a weird thing to be a metaphor for to me.
The Rolling Stones version of "Brown Sugar" was definitely a racially based song. However, the R&B artist D'Angelo released a song and album with same name, and that song was supposed to be about doing heroin.
When I sing along to the full version of Money For Nothing, I replace the lyrics of the second verse to the 2nd verse from Weird Al's Beverly Hillbillies
Bob Seger, on the Live Bullet album, does a truncated version of Chuck Berry's "Little Queenie" (medley with "Let It Rock") that changes the lyrics to drop the age: "Lookin' like a model on the cover of a magazine/Too damn cute to be a minute over 13." The medley's a terrific end to a great album, but I'll bet Bob wishes now that he hadn't changed Chuck's "seventeen."
There was a deeper cut on his out of print unplugged album titled Brand New Morning with a song called "Louise." Which was made prior to Live Bullet that had a similar situation in the lyrics. "Well Louise she's just an average Product of the American dream (Ah yeah) I concede she's kind of naive but (Uh) After all she's only thirteen (Oh yeah)"
