it's gonna be the Giants or the Dodgers imo. if SF misses out on Judge, that probably motivates them even more to get it done, but either way i think those 2 are the clear front-runners because they have the minor league talent and are both in positions where they want to win-now. plus Shohei has sort of indicated that he'd prefer to be on the West Coast because it's closer to Japan (hence ruling out Boston & the NY teams)
Giants are years away from competing. Plus, their farm talent in Ramos and Bart have underwhelmed to say the least. The Angels would want Kyle Harrison and Logan Webb at the very least. Not worth it. In baseball, one player doesn't propel a team to the playoffs.
Years away from competing!?😂😂😂😂😂 stop that. The Giants won 8 less games than the padres and they had one of the worst defensive years they’ve had. If they get judge, Turner/Dansby and others they easily become a more competitive team. They’re going to surprise a lot of people again this next season
@@vargi_2454 yeah 100p, they're rly not far off. they already got some underrated guys like Yaz, Joc, Thairo, Doval, and obviously Webb... put them with a legit star or 2 and i bet they make a wild card push
Would not make sense at all. Tatis is as well a generational player and more team stability than Ohtani obviously. He is staying in SD for life and nothing makes him move. It’s 12 years of an elite hitter or 1 year of an elite player 😅
I don’t think they will trade for him, but i can really see him going to Seattle. Seattle obviously has a huge Japanese fanbase and even if they aren’t one of the major markets, he’d be a star. Can you imagine Ohtani and Ichiro content all year long. Two of the greatest Japanese players of all time. I’d actually love that as a baseball fan
Tatis for Ohtani is nuts but I can see it. As a Padres fan, we still love Tatis but this trade would bring Ohtani and free up a good amount of money to sign Ohtani long term. Just not the Dodgers
Love how Mets fans are now and who would blame them. Cohen is the difference maker. But times in the past they would never dream of this happening. Now, you never know. Love it Marc
It's starting to seem like the Dodgers are preparing to go all in on Ohtani in the following year. They're clearing a lot of roster/salary space, and promoting a lot of their top prospects at the same time. Also, the main reason Ohtani didn't initially sign with the Dodgers was the lack of a DH, which isn't a problem now.
The Dodgers have too much talent in the farm system to not get Ohtani. Could you let me know if there is a betting line that Ohtani goes to the Dodgers? I am almost certain it happens.
Dodgers will do whatever it takes to win the World Series next year. 2022 post season was a massive disappointment. So I think LAD will give up pieces for Shohei and I really don’t think they’ll have to give up much. If the Angels aren’t a contending team near the trade deadline, they know Shohei will leave Anaheim. So their FO will trade Shohei for something, they can’t just let him walk for nothing. But since it’s only for half a season, whoever trades for Shohei will say “look, you need something. We’re not giving up our farm for half a season of Shohei, but at least you’ll get something from us. Better than just letting him walk.” And the Dodgers are in the best position to give the Angels good prospects while not wiping out their farm. And Shohei could be the missing piece that helps the Dodgers win another World Series. Plus Shohei likes SoCal so he’d definitely sign with the Dodgers for 2024.
@@Lamppostout Lay off the crack. Ohtani is an Ångel for life. 😎 & to the homeboy above your comment ~ Shohei didn’t choose the Dodgers not just because of the DH , however he was just not feeling the Dodgers organization. There is articles that even Kershaw has stated Ohtani looked so uninterested in the Dodgers and Ohtani meeting that it was practically pointless to even have had it. Delusional Dodger fans ~ LA only clearing their roster because LA chokes time and time again. Nothing to do to make room for Ohtani. You really think the Ångels are going to let go off the greatest player to ever bless the sport of baseball. 😂😂😂
If they do, it’ll only cost them. This is the main problem with the modern incarnation of the Dodgers. They’re like the Yankees and only sign a bunch of superstar talent to try and buy their way to a championship. They just happen to be more sabermetrics-adept than the Yankees, which is why no one gave them as much flack for it until now. The Dodgers don’t need better players, and they certainly don’t need better pitchers or hitters. What they need is better management, which they have already confirmed isn’t happening in 2023. Make no mistake, the Padres will likely upset them again en route to a pennant next year; it will be at least in 2024 before they win the World Series again.
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I actually think the Padres trade is far more likely than anyone wants to admit. They’re a west coast team so he’s close to Japan, they play in a pitcher’s park, which helps him at the plate because his best attribute is his power regardless of where he plays, and he would still be the headliner of a WS-caliber roster. Juan Soto is a franchise player, but Ohtani will be the guy wherever he goes because he adds the value of an elite DH with a Cy Young level pitcher for the price of one player and one roster spot. I think if they offered Tatís and a couple of mid-level prospects, they could work out a deal. They’re obviously not afraid to spend money
I think what will actually happen is another big upset like when Trout resigned with the Angels and Ohtani will resign with LAA. First, even though Eppler was the one who recruited Ohtani, he still met with multiple teams and he CHOSE the Angels, knowing full well how bad they were in recent years. He also chose to sign when he did which got him less money. Had he waited 2 years to play in the MLB he could have gotten a huge contract but he didn't so I don't think just because a team offers him a huge contract that it will be a major factor for him. He's gonna get paid big no matter who signs him. Also, I think people are underestimating how much close friends on a team matters. I don't just mean getting along with your teammate but having really close friends. Ohtani is super close with David Fletcher, Patrick Sandoval, and Jose Suarez. Fletcher just signed an extension and Sandoval and Suarez still have years under team control. The Angels actually being competitive this year will help A LOT, but as long as they are just not absolutely awful I think Ohtani will resign. And it will absolutely piss off every fan of baseball besides Angels fans lol.
He didn't sign with the Angels because they were good, he signed with them because they had Trout. Now every sign he's made points to him moving to a contender, which the Angels uh, are not.
@@flyingskier1913 Exactly my point. And they still have Trout. So people saying he’s going to leave for a contending team, I don’t think that’s as big of a factor or he would have signed with the Giants/Dodgers/even Mariners to begin with. The Angels have made dumb moves but you can’t say they are a purposefully tanking team. And what signs has he made? Every quote about the team, and there hasn’t even been that many, has been taken out of context and he’s only criticized himself. He’s given no impression he’s decided to leave. If the Angels are actually in it (I agree, BIG if) and he has a fun year and they at least just make the playoffs, I think they don’t trade him and he resigns.
Nah one of the biggest reasons ohtani chose the angels other than trout is it was the only team that would allow him to hit and pitch all the other teams were forcing him to chose one or the other
If Superman Shohei was playing in the National league he could've won the MVP and the Cy Young 🏆Ohtani had better numbers then Alcantra went 14-9 2.28 ERA 207 Ks Ohtani went 15-9 2.33 ERA 219 Ks and also led the league with strikeouts per 9 innings (11.9)
This would have been interesting. Shohei had better rate stats, but 60ish less innings, and Sandy had 6 complete games. It would have been a close vote if they were in the same league but I think sandy probably would have won
I think the cubs could be a way more realistic option if he’s a free agent. We just don’t have enough good assets to give up to get him through a trade
Sure they may be able to pull off a trade but Ohtani ain’t signing a long term deal to stay in Chicago. He wants to stay on the west coast. Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Mariners - only teams I see him signing a long term deal with.
I am a white sox fan, but shohei was pursued by them at the trade deadline. Maybe Hahn would do it again? I read they were close on terms including vaughn, kopech, moncada, prospects???
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Any team acquiring Ohtani would really need to be sure they could sign him. I get the talent, but the 1 year deal has to really decrease some trade value. I can't see a package worth more than Soto brought.
As an Angels fan I kinda like the Ohtani for Tatis trade. Best case scenario, the offseason additions make LA competitive and Shohei wants to stay, but if he's leaving anyways, Tatis is the best consolation prize mentioned.
I mean technically ohtani makes up both of them combined. Had pretty much the same pitching year as manoah or better. And is definitely a better hitter then bo.
Giants fan here, I would trade Webb for Ohtani. I think the problem is what else would we trade? I could see the Giants possibly trading Matos or Schmitt but I'd imagine if you are trying to build for the future you don't trade away Harrison or Luciano. The problem is Ohtani is a two way star and there are a lot of Qs as to how much do you trade for 1 player? I think the Giants could try to alleviate some of the burden of trying to grab Ohtani by eating a good chunk of the Rendon contract.
this is hilarious seeing this at this point in the season. Mets, Padres and other suitors are tanking, Angels are in a playoff spot, baseball gods work in mysterious ways
Toronto. They go all in at the deadline.... Orevis and Tieder + another top10 for half a season of ohtani..to pair with Alex and Gausman for october..filthy
A team intending to extend Shohei wouldn’t necessarily trade more players. You’re trading for one year of Shohei worth $30 million. The bidding war would get out of hand though.
If ohtani becomes available the better get a HAUL. It’s gonna be a rough look if they trade him at the deadline and get a so so return for him. If I were them I would do all I could to sign him throughout the early offseason and I they can’t see what the best trade package they can get for him is
I don't think there's a chance that they would do that trade up for tatis. Who's the better hitter is debatable, but then you also get a good pitcher. I think it would take 2 high caliber players as ohtani is basically 2 high level players already.
Don’t forget, the Padres will likely give away some of their pitching. And I think Preller and co. are smart enough to take advantage of the Angels’ “branding over winning” approach and give up someone like Darvish while they keep Suarez and Musgrove.
I feel like an Ohtani trade never will be possible i feel like he'll be a Angel for life and he'll be their franchise player but if they're is then its gonna be a west side team so either Dodgers, Padres, Giants, maybe Colorado or maybe Seattle cause i heard he would pefer to play teams in West side America so that its close to his home in Japan
We all know the Ms aren't on this list. 1. Because trades within division are uncommon 2. Their farm system was drastically depleted after 2 big trades in 2022 3. (And most importantly) Marc forgets they exist
I love Shohei as much as the next guy, but as a Red Sox fan I would not be happy giving up Devers (assuming they extend him), Casas, Mayer and Mata for him. Devers is a monster and he's still very young. He'll be able to play till he's 40 with the kind of bat he has, even if he has to DH for the last decade. Casas is the 1B of the future which doesn't sound like much, until you remember the junk the Sox have been putting out there for a while. Mayer is just a stud and I dont want to move him under any circumstance. As for Mata, have him lol I assume the Angels would want Bello anyways, and I like him a lot, so no 😂 WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID I would still be jumping for joy if the Sox got Ohtani, it just not a trade I would make.
To be honest, I am not at all sure about the Cardinals getting Shohei. Sure, he's a generational talent, but I wouldn't let the Angels touch Jordan Walker and Masyn Winn with a 10 FT POLE if I was Mozeliak.
I would trade Goldy and Arenado to get Shohei, I’d throw in Tommy Edman as well. Time for our youth to play, and having Shohei puts us over the top. Of course predicated on him signing for at least 8 years.
OK this is the only issue I have I have nothing but respect for your channel keep up the good work I'm a Toronto Blue Jays fan so you said toronto would have to give up probably Bo Bichette and Alek Manaoh. 2 guys that are MLB suds. But when you refer to the New York Mets your team which I have nothing but love and respect for my aunt is a biggest Mets ever and 2 of my best friends are. But when it came to them you only mentioned the farm system Mets have a great farm system but so does Toronto. But for New York you didn't mention Pete or Jeff you only said the farm can you elaborate more
I don't think the Cardinals would make this trade. Like you said you only get him for this year. Cardinals spend money but not big big money and they already have a lot tied in with Arenado and Goldschmidt but I guess crazier things have happened
As angels fan they should’ve traded him at the deadline the angels need to add serious talent to their organization some they can compete with Trout with he’s still serviceable. I’d be willing to trade him to the dodgers it sucks but I doubt he resigns
maybe a little Jays Bias but i think if the jays would actually run a team with trades like that i think thye could be #3 most likely cuz a trade like Bichette, Guerrero, Manoah, Kirk, Moreno. some of those players personally i'd trade for ohtani
I understand the mariners are not top 3, but they are definitely a top 10 team to trade for shohei. Young Major league pitching talent everywhere. George Kirby Emerson Hancock and Logan Gilbert. Even Marco Gonzalez or Chris flexen as throw ins. harry ford and Gabriel Gonzalez as the young prospects. they could easily trade for ohtani.
Some of your picks are doable, not all but some. Not a Mariners fan, but you put the Blue Jays in the mix but not a mention of the M’s. The M’s have possibly the deepest pitching depth in all of MLB. Rumor has it that the M’s were in the running for Ohtani before he picked Disneyland over all of the other teams. Just thought I’d throw the M’s on the pile. Most likely he will pick the Dodgers, I mean who doesn’t enjoy warm weather year round?
Artie Moreno doesn't care about the Angels future. If he doesn't sell the team by the trade deadline, Shohei isn't getting traded. He only cares about selling the team at the highest value possible he doesn't care about the future of the team if Ohtani leaves in Free Agency. If the teams does get sold I think Ohtani will have to decline 500M to leave the Angels which I also don't see happening unless he truly hates it there. I believe Ohtani will be the first 400M+ deal and a crazy GM trying to keep him might even offer 50M AAV for 10years+ making the deal reach around the 500M mark.
Before he doesn't put them: The Phillies have a similar package to the Mets. Stott, Bohm, Abel, Painter, McGarry, Rojas, and Justin Crawford is a great group of position players and pitchers
@@Gozwalt619 you can throw in Ranger Saurez aswell. I don't get how that can be the argument when you then have the Mets who have zero major league guys to trade. It's all prospects that are very close or just made their debut late
as a cubs fan it dont make sense to even try to get him, we are in a rebuild and that don't do him any good and were banking on these prospects to be the future i woulda left the cubs off the list we'd be giving up wayyy to much for a team that wants to rebuild with only prospects
