Would You Prefer Your MLB Team Trades for Shohei Ohtani or Juan Soto | The Rich Eisen Show

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Rich Eisen, Suzy Shuster and TJ Jefferson debate if MLB teams should trade for the Angels’ Shohei Ohtani or the Nationals’ Juan Soto.
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@onespeedlite Год назад

This is the actual stat Rich wanted to share: “Highest slugging percentage with RISP (runner in scoring position), last 50 years: .621 Shohei Ohtani; .616 Mike Trout; .615 Mark McGwire. Lowest SLG percentage allowed with RISP (runner in scoring position), last 50 years: .201 Shohei Ohtani; .211 Dellin Betances; .226 Aroldis Chapman (min. 400 PA / 200 BF),” baseball stats guru Jeremy Frank tweeted."

@BenDover-vs7ih Год назад

That's freakin insane!!!! Wow.

@jacobito626 Год назад

He’s insane

@littlesame Год назад

What the…. stats, mlb solid do a one trade day for Ohtani

@greggibson33 Год назад

Umm, as of July 31, Ohtani has more HR's, Triples and RBI than Soto.... oh, also I heard he's a pretty good pitcher, too.

@BenDover-vs7ih Год назад

@@greggibson33 Right!!!! I mean soto's a great player but he's having a good season not great.

@yepyep7629 Год назад

Ohtani for sure. He’s humble and conducts himself in a low key manner.

@justice4all82 Год назад

Shohei definitely I personally think he’s the best player in the mlb i really doubt by team would go after him but wish they would

@toshionakashima168 Год назад

Yes, he fills the line-up, he fills the rotation, he fills de stadium AND he frees you a spot so you can bring another player. Also, this year's salary is 5 million.

@DanielOrteez Год назад

It depends. Does your team need hitting or pitching? Why not both? The answer is Ohtani.

@nastyeats82 Год назад

If I'm any organization I throw the angels whatever they want. Especially the Yankees. Baseball is a business. The Yankees do business better than anyone, then imagine they have a GLOBAL 2 way player who is an All-Star MVP caliber in both areas. It's a no brainer

@coreyhansen9711 Год назад

The Yankees haven’t done business better than everyone in over a decade.

@rayrojas5185 Год назад

No, the Yankees don't do business better than anyone! The Yankees do have more championships than any other sports franchise but that's not necessarily because they do business better than anybody else. They have and have always had a lot of advantages over every other team such as the fact that they are from the biggest city in America. You don't even have to have a business major from Harvard to realize that such advantages like those will make it easier to put together a better team than everybody else. I'm a Dodgers fan and likewise we are not far behind and so I admit that we too have an advantage over many other teams due to the size of our city. Point blank, It's like a Paris Hilton challenging a Wal-Mart clerk to a car race with the only rule being that the car used has to be directly owned. Of course Paris would have an advantage since she can afford to purchase any car in the world but nobody would dare say it's because she's a better businesswoman now would they!

@nastyeats82 Год назад

@@rayrojas5185 I don't mean business as in baseball business..... They are the 2nd most valuable sports team.... they make money. you r-tards are thinking with your sports minds not what actually matters to owners and thats $$$$$. their geographical location is ideal... but it's irrelevant in arguing that they are the easily the most valuable franchise

@johnnymac6178 Год назад

As a Yankee fan I would much rather have shohei! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@ep9691 Год назад

of course you would! everyone would.. lol

@kennyhi4724 Год назад

Definitely

@charlesmcgowen7238 Год назад

You got Benintendi, now shut up.

@jeffreyhutchins6527 Год назад

Shoei for sure. What rotation wouldn't ?

@ADogWithGlasses00 Год назад

Ohtani 💯

@Michael-dy7zp Год назад

I'd rather have Othani then Soto, especially if my team is giving up their top 4 prospects.

@jeremyrhansen6637 Год назад

I would trade a staring pitcher a outfielder and my top TEN prospects for Ohtani!

@vivienneduong6541 Год назад

That’s why you’re not a gm.

@karlwarner7401 Год назад

I trade everything for shohei besides Judge. Them 2 together in NY will be the best show ever.

@trevorcarey3997 Год назад

I Agree👍

@kennyhi4724 Год назад

Agree

@RepsCity Год назад

Didn’t they say that about trout and ohtani, not working out

@97NikeSb Год назад

Angels will not figure it out with Moreno as owner and the people he has employed from top to bottom. Angels are a dysfunctional franchise that can’t develop or sign players and keep them healthy. They lucked into trout and ohtani. They can easily supply their farm system like no other by trading them. They’ve thrown money at FAs for years and they haven’t won a playoff game since 09

@andrewbees5705 Год назад

The angels and especially arte moreno are idiots. The smartest thing they could do is put the pettiness aside and trade ohtani to the dodgers. The dodgers would probably be willing to give up so much because I think Andrew Friedman would value how much it is that he hits and pitches you get a 2 for 1 basically. I think he’d be willing to give like 3-4 out of his top 5 prospects and other lower ones and maybe a Tony gonsolin or Dustin may for ohtani . The dodgers farm is deep so that could really set the angels up for many years and getting a young mlb proven arm in either gonsolin or may. With years of control still, the angels would be dumb not to talk to LA, ohtani is a free agent after next year he’s leaving .:: the angels are dysfunctional no way this guy stays it’s clear in his interviews he’s out .. Also the dodgers owners would realize how big ohtani is in Japan and what a draw/ money maker he is so that’d add to their approval .. overall it just makes sense but arte moreno would never allow it

@craigphillips6308 Год назад

Well said, and thats exactly why I now follow the Dodgers. The Angels are a clown show.

@karlwarner7401 Год назад

Angels needs to give Shohei some support or he should leave.

@Copesthetic-Aesthetic Год назад

Shohei will go down in history as the Greatest MLB player of All Time. We are very fortunate to be able to witness his amazing talent in our time. Shohei Ohtani Michael Jordan Serena Williams Tom Brady John Brzenk Kelly Slater Jack Nicklaus Wayne Gretsky Ricky Carmichael These athelets are the "Greatest of All Time" Yet only one is actually recognised by Guinness as a goat 👍👍 if you can answer that trivia question.

@BenDover-vs7ih Год назад

Dang a John Brzenk siting gotta love it. Any list of goats need a Kelly Slater. No one's even close. But great list for sure. Only person I would omit is Tiger. No way he's the Goat.

@Copesthetic-Aesthetic Год назад

@@BenDover-vs7ih I stand corrected, and have amended my statement. I may have rushed the list a bit. Didn't include boxing because of the weight classes. Included Brzenk because he competed in his weight class, and the ones above. Undefeated for three decades. An absolute legend

@mathewjones8886 Год назад

Maybe because outside of Serena and Nicklaus they play sports which are very much American rather than international. A handful of other nations play Ice Hockey, Arm-Wrestling and Surfing are pretty niche, Baseball is played seriously in only a few countries, Basketball in quite a few European nations but always way down the list of popularity and Gridiron is played nowhere outside of the states. Your list is quite insular and Guinness is about international recognition.

@angelicalynn1259 Год назад

Sorry but Ohtani will not go down as the greatest MLB player of all time. Not even close.

@AlexLiftingBRO Год назад

@@angelicalynn1259 Actually no one else come close to him, so yeah, he will go down easily as the BEST of all times

@juanjaramillo96 Год назад

"The curse" what have the angels done in 20 years??? You can't curse a rotting husk

@wabio Год назад

This is not even a comparison. Everyone talking about Soto like he's going to be the next Albert Pujols or Miguel Cabrera. That's not a guarantee. Shohei is exceling at both sides of the plate. When is the last time a player did that?

@johannesswillery7855 Год назад

1919.

@binder38us Год назад

I agree. Soto is good, but he is not Ohtani. I'd love to see him Dodger Blue. All prospects would be worth it...

@charlesmcgowen7238 Год назад

@@binder38us The Dodgers already have the highest payroll in MLB, and they are doing very well with the roster they have.

@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Год назад

Juan stop at 23 is way better than Miguel in terms of OPS,OBP,HRs lol

@wabio Год назад

@@HardcoreBoxingFan358 How you figure? Cabrera at 23: .339 BA, 26 HR, 114 RBI, 112 Runs, .998 OPS. Soto at 23 this year so far: .246 BA, 21 HR, 46 RBI, 62 Runs, .894 OPS.

@Devin.R Год назад

Attendance will plummet without Ohtani. He stays for that reason. Oh well. Thanks Moreno

@AGCcachanilla Год назад

……no…if Shohei leaves Angels, IM DONE….after 30 yrs im done with Angels.

@stedmanhilljr7112 Год назад

He has too bro he’s 28 and in his prime and trout keeps getting hurt u can’t get a better time than this to trade him u need a complete rebuild

@sibirdie Год назад

Should of call it quits a long time ago lol

@bpharaoh2884 Год назад

Ohtani! For sure!

@Enfield14 Год назад

If Ohtani is not traded to a contender the MLB needs to step i know how that sounds but wth he needs to play in the biggest games

@stevereese9991 Год назад

Ohtani

@Alex-ss4bk Год назад

So bazaar, they looked really good at the start then everyone except for 3-4 players went cold. Pitching too, did Maddon give that organization the Cubs curse?

@morganx4327 Год назад

Somebody free Shohei

@jasonmgomez Год назад

Padre fan and Id trade Tatis for Ohtani, straight up.

@TheFifapro44 Год назад

😲

@jasonmgomez Год назад

and then, go get Soto.

@arashshakibaee6057 Год назад

Shohei is worth double most players, but at least 50% more any other, elite arm / bat, it’s simple…

@yaredmelesse5558 Год назад

What does trading Ohtani mean for Trout and his future with Angels? He still has a bunch of years to go. Might as well trade him too, no built in rebuilding around again for the 20th time

@JohnSmith-nj4zq Год назад

No one wants Trout. His bad contract and injuries. Now he got a rare back injury. No GM will touch him from a mile away. The only asset the Angels have is Otani.

@littlesame Год назад

Would a handful of teams wait out in Soto now so they have assets for Ohtani next year? The rumor from Japan is he prefers west coast

@jonathanschull9919 Год назад

Show time to Yankees

@JDRamos213 Год назад

Yankee fans are delusional

@LOON3Y2OONS Год назад

Yankees GM should give up his right but for Shohei. Damn I’ll give up mine as well lol

@btrainbraydeboisseranc7570 Год назад

If my Halos trade Shohei I'm DONE with them and I've been a fan for 40 years smh. Wouldn't surprise me if Ohtani pulls a Soto and says he's not gonna sign long term and I don't blame him

@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Год назад

I’m taking Soto because he’s a way better hitter in terms of OBP,OPS+… this Year Soto is hitting .246 but his OBP and OPS+ is way higher than Othani and Soto walks A Lot while Othani Strikes Out too many times

@taiwanthebest Год назад

No team should trade away ohtani. Sign him and build around him. So angels need to trade away trout and rendon. Build around ohtani.

@nomono5 Год назад

But who would accept Rendon with his huge salary?

@charlesmcgowen7238 Год назад

No, you don't build a team around one player. You build a team around a core group of players.

@jaredr8284 Год назад

Sho is like signing 2 humble incredible players.

@angelmatos9143 Год назад

Ohtani order of magnitude

@jaredr8284 Год назад

Shohei all day. But as a cardinals fan I’m here for the pitching double threat. We’re struggling. Plus the humility is rad too.

@scotalexander9568 Год назад

Otani if I can get an extension worked out 5yrs 200M. Mariners need a Pitcher & a Bat he gives you both. Kelenic (2020 MLB #9 Prosect), Brash 2022 MLB #97 & BA's #46) Hancock (2021 MLB #57 Prospect), & Marte (2022 MLB #19 Prospect) 4 top 100 Prospects is a pretty big haul. Painful, but worth it.

@hankc3447 Год назад

It’s a close call, but Ohtani. They are both great young players now and can contribute tremendously to an organization. Ohtani has a worldwide branding and would be $$$ marketing assets. The only thing that is concerning for both players is that large framed Asian and Latin players both do not age well, especially beyond 35.

@Yo-xr7lj Год назад

Are there any stats to the last thing you said?

@hankc3447 Год назад

@@Yo-xr7lj your mama told me… Just kidding, here are few to names consider Pujols, Cabrera, and Hee Seop Choi. Tell ur mama Hello from all of us @ da clubhouse.

@Yo-xr7lj Год назад

@@hankc3447 dad?

@hankc3447 Год назад

@@Yo-xr7lj No. Your Papi.

@richardt6256 Год назад

Both are very good players but, Ohtani is good at 2 positions and better draw for fans which means more money for team and MLB!

@johnchan7544 Год назад

plse trade Ohtani to Dodgers or Yankees!!

@sluggerkarl Год назад

got a strong feeling they're making this back injury worse then it is to make teams consider him less valuable

@GroundScarecrow Год назад

Why not go to STL why does it always has to be LA, NYC, or Boston?

@stedmanhilljr7112 Год назад

Because there not as big as those teams big players big teams that’s just how it is in sports and plus the market and it’s value

@NotExplicable Год назад

Soto much easier to build around with less injury potential and more years

@Copesthetic-Aesthetic Год назад

How about the Angels keep Shohei. Then trade Trout, and few others for Soto.

@ep9691 Год назад

it's not gonna help them win the games they need in the future. they need more, that's the argument.

@angelicalynn1259 Год назад

Trout is not tradable. His huge salary plus the inability to stay healthy makes that reality.

@CaraDePapaaa Год назад

Dodgers prospects are better than Yankees. Angels would be fools to not give him to LA.

@chuchu3009 Год назад

Shohei would have more wins. Definitely with the Yankees.

@keithhoss4990 Год назад

I could pitch for the Yankees and have a ten win season with a 7 era

@chuchu3009 Год назад

@@keithhoss4990 👍

@galkanftw Год назад

You can never have enough pitching and so happens Ohtani can also hit. As for Soto i read the rumors and laugh at those proposed trade offers Sandiego's top 3 prospects are not good prospects in my book i would turn down that offer in 1 second flat.Nats should go after Ohtani and try and keep Soto unless they can get some pitching legit pitching not prospects from single A ball lol.

@jasonthemagnificent2.0 Год назад

There's no way Angels are going to trade Shohei

@ep9691 Год назад

never say never. they can't keep him longer than 2 years. now would be the time to trade if you want to rebuild.

@jasonthemagnificent2.0 Год назад

@@ep9691 Rebuild what? They can trade him for the entire Yankees Line up and Angels will still find a way to lose

@eamonkelley3811 Год назад

Ohtani to Mariners. Make it happen, team him up with Julio Rodriguez, he is the next big thing.

@kr6955 Год назад

Ohtani because you get great hitter and pitcher at price of one. In value term, Ohtani should be paid like 175% of superstar, which he won’t

@lc9245 Год назад

For the same price, Ohtani of course. The problem is the Angels won’t just price Ohtani for his sporting pedigree, they also consider his branding value. In that sense, Ohtani is almost priceless. The Angels can never replace Ohtani, no matter what package anyone send them, because the Angels management would be more concerned about losing the ticket and merchandise sales than rebuilding their franchise. Of course, I think we can all see this is foolish, because the Angles would rather let Ohtani walks for free in 1.5 years than losing that 1.5 years worth of profits and merchandise in exchange for long term success, and saving baseball.

@manciti4709 Год назад

as a manager...u will need to give me both corbin burnes & juan soto...for ohtani-san...but even then...i would still prefer to keep ohtani...more flexibility in my lineup

@keithhoss4990 Год назад

As a Cardinal fan my first thought was Ohtani. But, I don’t think a human can maintain the level of excellence doing it all like he has. Soto is 22 and can play at a high level for 15 years. I hope the Cardinals get Soto.

@gsjackson34 Год назад

Ohtani's very disciplined and methodical, so there's no reason to think he can't perform at this level for another half dozen years. The Cards need a starter and a left-handed bat to put between Goldschmidt and Arenado. Bingo. For Soto I'd make Jordan Walker untouchable. For Ohtani I'd give up the farm -- because I think they can sign him long term. He's been happy with the Angels; with the Cardinals' fans and tradition and competitive club, he'd absolutely love it.

@keithhoss4990 Год назад

@@gsjackson34 Maybe. How old is Pujols now? 58 lol. Even if he’s 25 that’s 10 years. I know what you’re saying though.

@phuckfumassters Год назад

I don't know Tom Brady is doing it with his health maybe Ohtani can do it too

@deliriousarmy3940 Год назад

A lot of things can happen in 15 years. Youth is not a guarantee for health longevity. I wish teams don't sign any player for longer than 5 years per contract. MLB needs to address this.

@johannesswillery7855 Год назад

Meth much?

@user-dx3mq1io5r Год назад

Ohtani...there should be no debate.

@mikio6444 Год назад

Is this even a question? Ohtani would be like getting Soto in addition to a number 1 starter.

@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Год назад

No he isn’t lol.. Soto offensively is better than othani and his Potential as a hitter is way higher..

@mikio6444 Год назад

@@HardcoreBoxingFan358 I misspoke….Ohtani is a better hitter and showed that last year and continues to show it this year as well. Not even gonna get into the pitching aspect.

@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Год назад

@@mikio6444 you clearly dont know how good soto is... Jaun Soto career BA, OBP, OPS, OPS+ is way higher than Othnai you idiot... Othnai last year wasn't a better hitter than soto or Vlad Jr... othani won the MVP last year because of his Pitching with Hititng Home Runs but Othani as a hitter is nowhere Near as good As Soto... othani career .BA is 262 while soto .291 and His Career OPS+ is 137 while Soto 160+ and Soto career OBP Is .420 while othani is .350 so Soto As a hitter is a million Times better than othani.... Othani is so overrated.... Soto Led the Nationals to a World Series Title while Hitting HRs off Kershaw, Verlander, cole... and I'm a Red Sox fan... Soto is a Generational Player while Othani Pitching and hitting Won't last Long.... I'll Rather have soto for the next 15 Years and I'm a Red Sox Fan....

@noname-dk7ri Год назад

There are Angels fans who are open to trading Ohtani for five top prospects to rebuild the team, but I think they are optimistic. Even if they acquire them, the Angels will not change. The Angels are cursed. Maybe it is Moreno who is cursed.

@bigRich07 Год назад

Shocker. Hes not being traded. So heres what i anticipated from tve start. Ohtani gets offered a huge extension this off season, and A) he accepts it and everyone who isnt an Angels fan stays salty. B) He declines and the Angels are going to basically take another team to the cleaners in a trade- your going to need to give up the farm for this guy - all of them.

@brokenleveeIV Год назад

Big market baseball is insufferable. This league is so broken.

@jasonmgomez Год назад

SD is TRYING!

@kobejete2796 Год назад

What's different with the nba where all the stars want to bail, and all they do is chuck 3s.

@tawink Год назад

@@kobejete2796 the difference is salary caps

@johnathanrebel Год назад

Shohei - a unicorn.

@johannesswillery7855 Год назад

I hate to say this but I hope Shohei can go to the Yankees so that his true potential can be reached.

@lindahutchens8612 Год назад

Dodgers need Ohtani; we don't need Soto and his low batting average this year and besides that he wants too many prospects. Ohtani, no question is the guy to get IF the Angels are really interested in trading him.

@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Год назад

You’re a causal .. soto this season has a OPS+ of 158 and OBP of .408…. Juan Soto career OBP and OPS+ is way higher than othani and his career average is also higher… I doubt othani can keep this level of play for another 10+ Years…. Soto also hits good pitching as he led the nationals to a World Series while Hitting HRs off kershaw, verlander, Cole…

@lindahutchens8612 Год назад

@@HardcoreBoxingFan358 Soto will fit in much better with the cocky Padres; he like Machado don't like to hustle. I wish the Angels were ready to trade Othani but they were not; with Othani we could get a pitcher and a hitter and he isn't cocky like Soto.

@anthonynguyen8010 Год назад

Shohei. Is it even a debate? You get both hitting and pitching with shohei

@cheeseie Год назад

Plot twist my team is the nationals and I’m hoping a deal doesn’t get done.

@bronsonbamnallen1633 Год назад

the obsession with prospects in baseball is fascinating to me. Its not like you trade them away and you will never, ever get more. There is a draft every single year and there is also an fresh international class every single year. You can always find more prospects. But finding another Ohtani? Not going to find another. Finding another Juan Soto? The kid is an all timer. What are the chances those prospects become anything like either of those guys? Slim, imo. So its easy for me. Trade the prospects, get the stud.

@JW-ku7nn Год назад

Who in the right mind would take Juan Soto over Ohtani. Not even close

@isaaccervantes5955 Год назад

Ohtani pitcher and hitter got to be him

@robwasilewski9273 Год назад

Red Sox. Take our 4 top minor league player in farm system and Martinez for ohtani

@MillennialRabbi Год назад

ohtani should've come to the Padres over the Angels, Preller was working hard to convince him. Our team would've been stacked

@kennyhi4724 Год назад

Showtime Shohei

@Vargumedo24 Год назад

Ohtani to the Dodgers. Lol

@Alart28 Год назад

Lord, if ShoTime comes to the Mets ...I may live at Citi Field

@jjmunz7718 Год назад

Soto for sure but either player would be a 👍

@Nomowu Год назад

Angels have made too many of the Ohtani Jersey to trade him away now

@stevereese9991 Год назад

Yankees with Ohtani, yes please

@trevorcarey3997 Год назад

I Agree that would be a better fit then the Dodgers, Shohei with the Yankees would be a perfect fit, he'll win 15 to 18 games and with the short right field fence at the stadium can hit 50+ HRs with those numbers he'll be an MVP every year.

@kangkim150 Год назад

@@trevorcarey3997 Just having run support when he pitches and his current level of batting will take him to elite of the elites.

@kennyhi4724 Год назад

Yes. Yankees with Ohtani

@binder38us Год назад

Ohtani needs to leave the Angels. He chose the Angels over the Dodgers. If he was a Dodger he'd be a super star

@RepsCity Год назад

He chose Angel because there was DH at the time

@kunningkane7895 Год назад

Ohtani is as close to being a God of baseball if not already. The Angels management must take Shohei seriously. Either shower him with honor (stop killing Ohtani by surrounding him with poor casts, it's totally disrespectful) and give him fortune (60 or ? millions x 8 yrs) or else release him. True baseball fans need to understand a baseball genius like Shohei comes only once in a century. IOO years from now, future fans will look back and said, "wow, Shohei was magic, rarest air ever, he is the one and only gone with the wind like Pegasus!"

@rvhubboss Год назад

Arte Moreno is the problems with the Angels

@galkanftw Год назад

Honestly i have little respect for Baseball and it's unlimited spending.I want a fair playing field right across the board pay to win makes sport a JOKE.

@stanleyjh601 Год назад

If Soto is only 23 than I am 65...I, 36 and look like I am 30. His Latin age is who the hell knows his real age has to be at least 27-30. Plus obtain can do more. Soto is just a bat that it it!

@willielopes8878 Год назад

Haha I love how she trashes that Mets tan thinking they are getting ohtani

@bestthemudafuckin Год назад

shotime loves orange county

@chelbel2374 Год назад

Don't get it twisted. Winning is not the deal. It's of be of self. Not wearing of others. Be of your passion and play hard to prove to self we can do

@DanielOrteez Год назад

They're not trading Ohtani. Dodgers will sign him as a free agent.

@kruklown20 Год назад

lmao

@Levi-em6ym Год назад

You are comparing an allstar vs MEGA STAR.

@jl4646 Год назад

Soto is amazing player and will have a wonderful career, but Shohei has a potential to become the goat... so obviously Ohtani all day.

@encinobalboa Год назад

Juan is too greedy. Not good for team chemistry. Sho all the way.

@bobfeller604 Год назад

The Angels should be trading Trout, you folks are looking at it backwards.

@lacoleccionperfecto Год назад

oh, you wanna go next level... why not reunite harper and soto with the angels? Trout for Harp, Soto for Ohtani.

@ep9691 Год назад

I'm pretty sure Ohtani > Soto instead of being = in terms of trade value.

@ChickenParmesan45 Год назад

Soto and it’s not close

@chelbel2374 Год назад

Think before you threat

@donalddowning4108 Год назад

Dodgers or Giants. Both cities have a large Japanese population and their ticket harvest would be amazing. Dodgers have the history with Nomomania.

@kellyldavis100 Год назад

The LAA aren’t trading Ohtani, so give me Soto for 2+ yrs, and we’ll talk after that.....DUH.....

@carlosv728 Год назад

It's a no-brainer, Arte Moreno will never trade Ohtani, why would you trade him? He is the Unicone, no established MLB player cannot be eqeal value to him.

@angelicalynn1259 Год назад

You trade him because in a year and a half he is gone for close to nothing. He wants to win so he will be out the door.