I don't necessarily agree that you don't need to have other friends when you have a girlfriend/boyfriend. Say this happens : you have a boyfriend and you start hanging out with your BF more than your friends. If your BF hurts you, and your relationship doesn't work out your first instinct is to go to your friends who will comfort you. But, since you haven't been having out with your friends, your friends dont want to be with you or help you because you left them. Then you have no one to help you, and your alone with no BF OR BFF. I'm just saying that its crucial to spend equal amounts of time with each person.?
For first dates, I do like when a man pays. Knowing that we don't know one another very well, I like to keep it on the cheap and simple, like coffee/tea and conversation. I went on a first date to an ice cream parlor. Not expensive, it was nearby, but he didn't blow big bucks on someone with whom he didn't share chemistry with. I think that's only fair.
I'm a woman and I ALWAYS offer to pay for at least half of the date, but if my date insists, I'll let them pay and I'd pay next time. It's just a courteous thing to do.
[I ALWAYS offer to pay for at least half of the date,] (Just joking around) U are such a dream come truel, ha ha ha. Do you do super cheap date like...just hanging out at the university cafe, that would be such a time and money saver, then those complex and expansive romantic date. If yes, you must have just become my dream girl. ha ha :)
I also offer (rather I just assume I am paying for myself/us) to pay my half or more unless I ask the guy on a date, then of coarse I pay for the whole bill. I also do this with friends and family.
I met my wife on line, we were friend for a number of years. Then one day she flew from the US to Australia for a holiday and forgot to go home :/ Magic can happen if the right people are involved, it is all about the risk you are willing to take :D
Dan ... Mike. You guys are freakin amazing. Super relevant advice and glad you guys decided to share and make a video on this. :D gentlemanly advice is rare these days expecially via youtube. Also, great answer on the 'do I look fat question' lol but really in the first place id ask my bestie and not my bf lol Anywho, I think its a good sign if a girl decides she wants to eat off the guys plate, especially on a first date. Personally I only do this with my guy friends ive known for a bit.
My position on hanging around with other guys/girls, I go with trust your partner, don't necessarily trust the other people. Never get mad at your guy/girl for getting hit on, that's out of their control. If the person flirting doesn't know that's your partner, it's an honest mistake. If someone makes a move on your partner and knows it's your partner, then you can have a problem with that person. And don't tell your partner "I don't want you hanging out with that person anymore" or anything like that, but you can say to the other person "I'm not cool with you moving in on Casey (I just picked a random unisex name)." Also, don't be the ass that hits on someone else's partner. It's inconsiderate to both of them and will just get you in trouble.
That's very refreshing to hear other guys opinion on this subject! Thank you, you are funny and have a lot of life experience to share that's nice! I'm new to your channel, will keep following you up. Cheers!
I come from a traditional Mexican family. Our first dates was dinner at home so the guy can ask my dad permission to date me or one of my sisters. Whoever's guest he is makes dinner. It's out of respect to the man of the house, as well as show that the guy is serious (and brave) enough to confront my dad to ask his permission. It also gives my parents a chance to get to know what kind of crowd we hang out with.
Haha, great video! It's always awesome to hear about your anecdotes and opinions. I even find myself talking to my laptop because I felt like I was in the discussion with you guys :D
One of the most annoying things about being asked out on a date, is then knowing that the guy that asked you out doesn't know where to take you, and makes you decide for him. I'm happy if he asks me what sort of food I like and then from there surprises me with a place he knows, but I really don't like it when he bugs me about where I want to go.
I absolutely love you guys!!! Thank you posting these amazing, thought provoking, insightful, and down right hilarious videos! Keep up the good work :) Hope to meet you guys one day!
Go 2:1, meaning split the check in three and pay two parts, she pays one. Not only you are paying the bigger portion, she doesn't feel obligation, and bonus: she's impressed by your reasoning and math skills. Win-Win!
Now that my boyfriend and I of 5 years share finances (we live together) it doesn't matter who pays for dinner. But before, we almost always went Dutch. We were both poor art students and I would always just ask for the check to be split. Or if he paid for dinner, I'd get the movie tickets.
ug my boyfriend never knows what to say to me when im upset ...my mom has a stroke i tell him and he just stares at me akwardly and pouts saying i feel akward now omg i dont know what to say and acts like his mom is all sick and he wants attention...then it turns out his mom is absolutly fine and he just wanted my attention on him then i confront him and he has a huge tantrum then cries then screams then i tell him to leave and he wont he just sobs and wails at my door and keeps saying hes sorry well.if your sorry then act like a man own it own your mistake then
and i cut him slack all i said was i asked him leave... and he wouldnt... happens alot. its all good to set healthy boundaries man even if he was only 15 and i was like 14 ..im 26 tho ..anyways peace
and he is just expressing his inner child i guess but its getting a little intense and i have broken up with him alot but then get back together cause he says sorry...he also lies alot like alot and smokes a ton of weed and plays alot of videogames n stuff but ya..anyways live and learn .
+Moo Boo I understand. I just said to run because you seem like someone who is a lot more mature than your bf. At 28, you really should be able to express sympathy for your SO if their mom is going through that. Being playful and expressing your inner child when you're dating is great but when the chips are down and times get hard, if you can't step up and be a man than you're just a boy in a mans body. That's just the way I see it I guess. I spent a few years with a guy like that before when I was younger and I felt like when things got hard I was more like a mother figure than being his equal. And who wants to play mom to your SO? Not me. Too hard. Good luck to you both though :)
I don't know if this will help you but here's the thing - any guy who invites a woman out and then wants her to pay for half has INSTANTLY dropped himself into the friend zone! There are ALL SORTS of reasons why this happens - from inequal pay between men and women, to a woman's nature to common courtesy. Firstly, except for in uncommon situations, most men make more money than women. So as an example, if a man makes a 1.00 for every woman's .70 then what sense does it make for a woman to spend .30 more of her money (leaving her with .40) instead of him spending .30 of his (leaving him with .70)? If anything, his paying for the date only temporarily brings him to her pay. It's an investment that HE can afford to make! Also, there's the nature of men and women. Men seem to understand their own nature and how they need to feel respected, cared for and in charge but they don't seem to get that a woman has the same strong need to feel comfortable and secure in knowing that the guy she's can and is willing to take care of certain things so that she won't have to take care of the kids AND everything else! But if a man won't even pay for dates (which doesn't even put her above friend status), then that's a sure sign that if she gets with him, they'll be other things that he'll back out of taking care of later on-important things that will leave her abandoned or doing his job IN ADDITION to everything else! No woman who is concerned with her future is going to want to align herself with a man who wants her to do ALL of her part and half of his! Women pay for males only if they are children or platonic friends so if you want a woman to look at you as a child to take care of or a platonic friend (someone who she couldn't even get wet thinking of) then make her go half and that's what we'll think in the back of our minds. So yeah, don't ask her out if you don't think you'll like her but once you do, look at it as an investment because believe me, if she's the right one, you'll get more from her than ANY money you put in for all of your dates combined! Think about it.
Being late is bad for everyone. It's a sign of respect. And NEVER SHOW UP EARLIER !!!!! This is important, same if you are invited somewhere. If I ask people to be there between 7 and 9, there's a reason. It's because I plan that everything will be ready for 7, not 6:30 ! Being in advance is good for a appointment, an interview, but etiquette said it's rude to shows up at someone's place in advance. Imagine a girl does the same to you. She shows up and you're still shaving or dressing. So be there on time, 5 minutes in advance if you meet somewhere else but never when you're invited at someone's. It's rude. Plans... That's hilarious. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. It's the same in life. You can plan everything and life will find a way to crush everything, one way or another. Job, friendship, love, money, you will front challenge and things rarely go the way you want to. Sooner or later, things will happen. Life happens. We change, go where we never thought of going. having plans, wishing for a model of life is ok, but being a man, or a woman, is the capacity of going changes and keep going. If you don't trust your love one, you have a problem. But trust is earn, it takes time. But yes, it's weird if someone is more with a friend than a significant other. I don't care about spending time with a bunch of guys, because they will know that I'm not available and anyway, my boyfriend will be invited ! When I'm in love, it's with on man only. Meeting the parents, only if it's serious indeed. We want real food, indeed. Meat, sauce, fried stuff, you know, FOOD! Veggies is good, but not alone. Sense of humor is necessary to go through life anyway... By the way, a woman won't ask if she looks fat, a girl will. A woman is self confident and don't need someone else to tell her if she's fat or not. This said, keep telling her she's beautiful. When she woke up, after the gym, when she works hard to look special for a date, telling her this is like saying I love you. You HAVE to be there for her. You are supposed to be the most important person in her life so your job is to be there for her no matter what. She has to do the same for you, of course. The felling of loneliness when your with someone but the other just tells you he's not good at it when you're in the middle of a crisis is awful. Been there, done that... You feel betrayed.
I'm with Mike, I only share food with people I'm comfortable with. I've also payed for dates where I have asked the guy out. Paying for the date where *you* asked them out is just a thing I go with, and I'm a female.
aishah abdelnoor No, I just don't expect them to. I can pay for my food since they probabIy can't afford it any more than I can and I open doors for peopIe of aII ages and genders if they happen to come after me, it's just common decency.
aishah abdelnoor Why are you so upset that I beIieve in spIitting the check? :D Both pay since both earn money. I'm not a feminist but a gender equaIity suporter And where I'm from no guy ever stands up in the bus for women, it just doesn't happen. PeopIe may give up their seats for oId peopIe or pregnant women etc. but never just to a random woman. As for raising chiIdren I don't ever see myseIf having any, but if I wouId I wouId want to raise them with my parter and share the responsibiIities equaIIy according to each of our strenghts.
aishah abdelnoor I reaIIy hope you're a troII. If not, weIcome to the 21st century where men and women are equaI and confIicts are not resoIved with physicaI confrontation. Gender shouId not determine who someone can be and what they can do with their Iife.
Lilja Grönrus Pretty sure he is a troll. I am the horror or tumblr (aka white male) and the whole gender thing is bullshit. If a girl wants to pay for it then thats her decision. No one should be forced to do something because of their gender. A man should accept help and offer help to a woman and vice versa. But you should always offer help if you have a huge advantage over the other person. For example most mans should in my opinion offer their help when it comes to carrying heavy stuff. Or if a woman is rich and the man is poor, the girl should offer to pay the check. It's about using your advantages to help those in need to create a equal and fair world.
I'm a girl and normally I offer to pay for my own meal/ticket etc. However, if the guy offers, I let him. I don't want to be rude and automatically assume he's paying, but if he insists on paying, let him because it's not just courtesy, it's also their self-esteem because paying is the "manly" thing to do. As for the movie tickets, if you're like me, and you feel bad about letting the guy pay for the entire thing, what I tell them is "If you pay for the tickets, I'll pay for the concessions" (or vice versa) because it ends up being about the same price.
The problem with the whole 'significant other becoming centre of your life' is that when i met who i thought was my significant other and we were planning to get married etc. he being the centre of my life meant I was essentially 'cut off' from most of my friends, who were guys. The relationship fell apart and I found myself almost friendless because I had let him be the centre of my life and my friends 'moved on'.
Some people just aren't like everyone else around them and aren't quite compatible with a lot of the people they might meet for big reasons. That doesn't mean they can't make heaps of friends but it precludes them from the normal relationship merry go round. Nothing wrong with looking outside of your area to find someone more like you... Especially when you are stuck in the Midwest....
Agreed with Mike almost about everything. And girls, I think, are not aware of what guys say behind their back, I think it's not a show more often than not. or maybe I'm just naive...? hmm love this show :)
I hate letting guys pay or the whole chivalry thing though, it feels like it's implying they're buying my time but I want to hang out and get to know them as much as they do :/
Emphasis on it FEELS like. You only FEEL like that because you FEEL like they're belittling/objectifying you. It's good that you're thinking intuitively and yes a staggering percentage of men DO fit into this category but not all. He could also just be a good, altruistic guy (rare unfortunately for you babes).
First, i love you guys! Just found your channel and subscribed! So...I'm a woman. Being too close to members of the opposite sex heightens the risks of problems, drama, broke hearts ect whether any of them are in a serious relationship or not! Disagree? Look at the evidence and fall-out of an "anything goes" society! So have friends of any sex. But we all should learn and set appropriate boundaries!
Him: You took a girl on a date to MCDONALDS? Him: NO NO! Me: I'd love to go on a date to mcdonalds...The only date better then that would be a date to some anime or gaming event...
I think when a girl asks "does this make me look fat?" just reply with ''no, you look beautiful'' sometimes they just need a compliment to boost their self esteem :) About the jealousy part, some guys gets so lost in it that they're like "you just looked at that man, i'm mad at you", or "why you smile at guys?, don't be so flirty" It's so annoying. In my opinion, it's all about trust, just trust her, if she loves you she won't go away, but if she doesn't love you, even if you keep an eye on her 24/7, she'll eventually leave you.
[I think when a girl asks "does this make me look fat?" just reply with ''no, you look beautiful'' sometimes they just need a compliment to boost their self esteem :)] How I got a girl last time: She stretch backwards in class (university) and I said "wow congrats, you are pregnant!" she say "No, I am just stretching." I said "oh." she say "You really know how wot charm a girl!?" I say "since when did I say I am trying to charm you.", then she start flirting with me the entire night. You have no idea how many time I got a girl, by finding some lame excuse to say I mistook her for pregnant. Some how, mess with her ego a little bit, help you get the girl sometime. Hmm
Mei Wang Actually I think it was a "You want what you can't get situation." because it seem to work better with hotties that has a lot of guys chasing after them, it don't work as well, with girls that have lesser guys going after them.
juiweiYang2000 you might be right there~ those girls thought you wasn't interested in them, that's why they wanted to grasp any situation just to get you (since they're popular, they believe they will succeed). anyway, good for you xD
Mei Wang True, but my experience, they would go as far as flirting with you. But they won't jump in bed with you. ha ha (I am 29, so I am allow to talk about stuff like this :) ) Speaking about stuff like this, it remind me of a funny story. My aunt literally married my uncle, due to that exact same reason. (Well, my mum told me that is what happened, I just think it is a funny story.) My mum said, my aunt was a model when she was young (at least 30 years ago) and my uncle whom want to date her, just kept on misleading her to believe he is the one guy that ain't interest in her and kept calling her "fat" and went on for god know how long. And now they've been married for over 30 years WTF.
Just found this channel, n I am glad I did 😊 I love unedited and natural ur videos r.. *sighs* I guess I was that "there's something bout Mary" girl back in college.. Didn't realize it until after I graduated.. I am not surprised now I lost all my guy friends.
i'm on a doublechen marathon, gosh you guys are so funny! and relatable (even tho im a girl) but i do share some exact sentiments. and on this video, super hilarious!!! such gentlemen u guys! HAHAHHA.
but I'm a girl and all my friends are guys and I just met them and I had a jealous boyfriend, who thought like that and that's not the case. Guys and girls can be just friends, so I don't understand why people are so insenqure about stuff like that.
Oh so true, if the girl doesn't cry on his shoulder then she is likely scared of his reactions or words hurting her worse. Definitely a bad sign, you need to be able to be each others rock like best friends or you can't last a lifetime.
haha mike is really romantic but i wouldn't ever drive 2 hours to see a person i met online and i wouldn't want a guy to do that for me either lol. I think i'm leaning more on dan's side, the more simple kinda like friends style. But mike's cool haha :D
My boyfriend and I met on an app game. We live across the country from each other (New York & California) and after talking on the phone and FaceTime we decided to meet. He came out to meet me in California. We are still together now after two years. So like Mike said you never know because that person might be the one.
Okay. the thing that a man hast to pay is something i am not really comfortable with. Though i feel pleased and honoured If someone pays for me. at the same time i actually feel bad and uncomftortable because it is their money and idk know how to describe this but it just kinda gives me a bad cautience. can i call it that? and it don´t know how to react to it. it isn´t even the fact that the guy paid it´s the same with my close friends and even my granny. and i loved your reaction on the "do i look fat in this"-question. you guys nailed it. haha
What if your bisexual, would you be uncomfortable would them hanging out with both male and female... Sinch he/she is attracted to both gender. I personally have friends of both gender and dont mind if my partner has female friends. I would have trust in our relationship and in them and if something does happen thats on him/her. Also, I disagree that you partner has to be your main priority. Your main priority is yourself. Self love. Its unhealthy to let your world revolve around one person. Thats not to say that your partner isn't important because he/she is. However having a healthy balance is important.
Ok, but consider this though: if your significant other spent time one-on-one with someone of the opposite sex (be it work, leisure or other), would you still not mind? Would you still not doubt the situation?
No I wouldn't mind. As I said I would trust my partner. It takes 2 to tango. So even if someone were coming on to him/her, they still have the control and responsibility to stop anything from advancing. This is assuming their current relationship is valuable. However, I would trust my partner and know they wouldn’t cheat. If I didn’t trust him/her thats a problem that has to be worked on because thats an unhealthy relationship. Just because one is in a relationship, doesn't mean ones personal life ends. Being in a relationship is one aspect of ones life, an important one but not their whole life. And Im pansexual, similar to bisexual, so it wouldnt be fair to my partner to restrict friendships with the oppisote sex. I mean Im also attracted to women. So would that mean I cant have female friends or guy freinds becuase I can be attracted to their gender. No. That would be unhealthy. I can have platonic relationships, be faithful because their is love and trust. If their wasn’t why would I be in that relationship in the first place. The same goes with my partner. Now could something happen, of course. Humans make mistakes. That being said, one still has the control to think before acting. However, I wouldn’t let that possibility stop me from trusting my partner. I wouldn’t take their freedom away. If they do cheat, thats on them not on me. And vice versa, if I wear to cheat. If they were to cheat, why would I be with that person. So I would not mind. If anything I would encourage them to make friends with anyone of any gender because I would trust my partner. Trust is an important foundation to any relationship. If there is no trust what is there then. Communication, trust, loyalty and love is important. Without it your lost and thats not a relationship. Well not a healthy one
To Dan: it depends entirely on whether or not you have Jigglypuff or Ivii cards. If you do, you're fine. If you don't ... yeah, just don't admit to the Pokemon cards. ;p
ok, bros. and what if a female asks a male out? you know what, though? i don't believe in dating. i just believe in hanging out with people as friends until / unless you find out that there's really a basis for more. i think that when people are hanging out it can go either way: in general friends will split the bill, or whoever asks pays, or, if someone obviously has more money than the other (as is often the case between males & females) then they can pay more often since they can better afford it. but one person paying for another is a tricky situation, esp. with males & females. the male can feel taken advantage of, the female can feel that the male thinks she owes him something, etc. so, i think that in an enlightened world, people just take turns inviting & paying, or people split the bill.
Red Pill: (copy&paste from the internet) BRIFFAULT’S LAW: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. There are a few corollaries I would add: Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1) A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).
I just watched some of your videos! You guys are witty, funny, and very opinionated (which is entertaining). Mike seems more pragmatic and Dan is a jocular host.
I decided I like being alone. Dating was okay in my teens, early twenties and then it went down hill from there. I like natural, normal circumstances. I haven't met a grown man yet. Not anything against the male species,(I get along with them great as friends and that way I guess I don't expect too much from them). I guess rather than to go on another date (and I will not describe previous dates in an effort as to not offend anyone), I would rather enjoy time with family, friends etc. People I know I will enjoy myself with and have a good time and then it's not time I feel like I've lost or wasted.
I would actually like some advice on the cross-gender friendship thing. I don't necessarily go for friendships with guys on purpose, but I often find myself more comfortable around them, often find them funnier and more down to earth, which I really appreciate in a friendship. So ultimately I tend to hit it off with guys moreso than girls which I unfortunately rarely "get" :( I never really have any intentions other than friendship, and I purposely avoid flirting with them, as well as toning down my sexuality, as to not send unintended signals. But ultimately, so many friendships have died because they wanted more from me, and sometimes they didnt tell me until years after. I understand that in such cases it is painful to continue a friendship, and I sympathize when they don't stay in touch, but it is also painful for me to not be able to keep friendships because of it. I would really like any advice on whether I can do something else or if I can just not have a guy friend without Things ending weirdly and aruptly and me hurting their feelings, which I've never intended. I kind of feel evil for still trying. :(
I think it's unfair to expect to wait for the female but the male has to always be on time--or even early. Same thing with paying, deciding on a restaurant, having friends of the opposite sex, etc. Romantic relationships should be similar to friendships in which both parties are treated equally and have the same expectations.
Love your vids!!!! I agree with majority of the list, but I have to say, the bill splitting, goes both ways. If I'm comfy with a guy and want to see him again and he pays, I'm okay with that. But if I know I will never see him again, I will offer to pay half tactfully as I don't wanna feel like I owe him. Even if he's the one to ask me out.. Mike, u def won't be dating a vegetarian then 😜
I know this is old but I just saw it and I had to comment, your statement was you wouldn't find true love at a McDonalds. I've been with my husband for 17 years, married to him for 13. We met at a McDonalds. So, it is possible.
What if that single guy she's hanging out with is gay? Just saying, the movie GBF was made for a reason and that reason is that there's an increasing number of girls who have a gay best friend that they hang out with and have sleep overs with. It's becoming a normal thing now because you get the friendship company without all the drama and gossip you would have from hanging out with other girls, but as a female you don't have to worry about the guy hitting on you because you are not his type by any definition. In my opinion it's childish if a guy gets jealous of another guy who is more likely to flirt with him over his girl.
I love watching you guys! It's like enjoying the best of both worlds when I listen to your point of views. :) The saddest thing about this video though is that it made me realize that I married a 38 year old boy. I'm only 26 and yeah, he does things that you mentioned in this topic. I'm always the one to understand, to adjust, to ask my self if I did something wrong. We've been married for 2 years and we don't have a child yet. So I'm just wondering if you could help me decide if I have to stay or leave the relationship. I would really appreciate if you would respond on this. I'd love to give you a detailed account regarding this question. Thanks and more power to you guys!
Kathrina Huelgas Thanks Kathrina :-) you can feel free to message us, although we don't want to play a role in whether you end your relationship or not but if we can, we will offer some advice if appropriate.
🌟Team Mike!!! I would drive 2hours to meet my date. It doesn't hurt to try because it's better to know then to wonder. Mike, I don't like to share food because I'm a germaphobic, but if I really like a guy I don't mind getting his germs...hehe😊...I don't expect much as long as there's chemistry then we are good, so it doesn't matter where he takes me for dinner. ❤️;)3
[I would drive 2 hours to meet my date. ] Not me, the last time I broke up with a girl it was because, I had class in university I must go into the city and she happen to live on campus. So, we can just meet up after class, (usually at the bar next to campus.), then she moved away from the city and she don't have class the same day I have class and i though "fuck, I am not going to catch a 30 minutes train to the city, just to meet some girl. So, I broke up with her." This other time I broke up with a girl. I love Indian food, she hate Indian food, I always want to go to the Indian restaurant (my mum also dislike Indian food, so I only get to have it, when I am out.), with her, I don't get get Indian food, anyway close to I like, so, I broke up with her over Indian food. How I broke up with my 1st girl friend. It was meant to be just a bit of fun. But then she want to get serious. She had dated 2 guy before me. And I thought "Why the Fuck would I want to get serious with a second hand...opps I mean third hand girl, when I myself never dated?" So, I broke up.
I know from another video that you guys believe that girls and guys cannot be friends, but I wholeheartedly disagree. I get along way better with guys than I do with girls. I have only 1 girl friend, whom I consider my close friend, while I have 3 guys who are my close friends. My husband and I have been together for over 10 years, since high school. All of my friends now, I have been made since we were together. If he were demanding of me what you are demanding of your girlfriend, I would not have many new friends and would resent him for having to live such a lonely life. I think it's rather childish to expect one's girlfriend to not make new guy friends or hang out with a group of guys. You say that you trust her, and it's not about trusting her but about not trusting him. Well, trust that she'll know when to stop hanging out with her new friend if he only desire more than friendship. Trust that she'll establish respectful boundaries in her new relationship. One of the first things that guys know about me is that I'm off the market; I'm a happily married woman with no intentions of being anything more than just friends. If my new friend can't handle that, the friendship will naturally stop. I have had some guys that can handle that, and some that can't. I no longer talk to those who can't, and those that can see me more than some potential hook up have become dear friends. I know I married a man and not a boy because my man respects and trust that I know how to set boundaries.
It's this way with me too, I get along with guys much more often than girls. Plus, from seeing some relationships where the girl doesn't have her own life outside of the relationship (i.e. friends, social club, ect.) it gets very lonely very quickly. Then the girl feels stuck in that relationship because now the guy is the only one there for her. Besides family, and that's assuming that, that social circle is healthy and alive. The whole attitude of possessiveness can lead to resentment. I'm not married, way too young. But when it comes to guys going out with me, one of the things I look for is that they have to except that I will have male friends.
simple thing to solve this money(who should pay) shit...........Shouldn't matter if you are rich or poor....decide to eat out at a fast food joint or a Subsandwich joint(quiznos or subway whatever) if she or he doesn't like that option, opt for a home-cooked meal for a picnic date at a park. If the person of interest doesn't like either of the options.....forget that person and run fast....modesty and snobby are never used together and if you do go on the date and the sparks don't fly...atleast it didn't cost you a arm and leg.
May I just say that being a feminist does not mean man hating or thinking women are the best sex in the world. It's about gender equality. If a man wants to pay let them pay, if a woman wants to pay let them pay and if they want to split it's fine. I don't think either of them have to to do one or the other. When my boyfriend doesn't have a lot of money, I pay and vice versa. Most of the time we split it because its less expensive for the both of us, and paying for one or the other doesn't prove that one of us loves each other more. There is always holidays where couples truly treat each other to something. :D Commitment is a two way street
I don't agree with the man paying for the date all the time especially in a recession I heard even during the recession women were getting men to pay for them which I think is wrong. I also don't agree with the whole "oh a guy should wait but a girl shouldn't" if the girl truly wants to be an adult she should know that sometimes she has to wait that's part of life.
I usually always think this when the custom comes up that women get all the pampering so to say. "They'll likely EXPECT you to do it to some degree, and you're worthless if you're not loaded, etc.. Same as " can't hit a girl" while she is hitting you. XD Why don't we both treat eachother with such respect/kindness, etc? ;__; I know it stems from men being the providers and so on, but still.. Why feed into that old paradigm.. I mean, it still has it's place and it's nice.. but not when it's not so extreme that it should give a girl basically a free dinner and everything else. Again, why make a guy go broke just to attempt to whine and dine you, just for her to ditch you or whatever else? LOL
All these rules and games... it's ridiculous. Some of us will be alone forever. Some of these I can agree with, they aren't that bad. But everything is laid at the man's feet. I did not choose to me born a man, I did not choose to have feelings for the opposite sex, and some of these issues I cannot fix. The odds are stacked against me and I cannot change who I am. There is no hope for some of us. If I had one wish, it would to be gay. At least I do not have to put up with mind games.
"She was his sister?" "And she just lost her job?" - perhaps a little bit paraphrased from Black Books, season 1 episode 4. Women feel the same way as guys when they see their partner with someone of the opposite sex that they don't know. That magazine article is a bunch of unreasonable demands. It's creating an unrealistic view on what men are and are suppose to be.
