About Luke deciding to kill ben. And not being "squeaky clean.".... Sorry this is a long one. At the end of movie 6, with both the villains trying to push Luke over the edge. He finally snaps and lets the dark side take control when Vader taunts his sister. When the Emperor applauds Luke's mistake, Luke realises and composes himself and proclaims he's a Jedi like his pops. That's where the Emperor realises Luke cannot be turned - even after totally going all Sith on his old man - and decides to kill the young Jedi. And in the process Luke redeems his father. The whole original trilogy is about Luke overcoming his shortcomings, and achieving his Jedi potential. So the idea he'd kill his own nephew is ludicrous and offensive to the characters legacy. Plus the fact he "sensed the dark side" in his nephew, is not how the dark side works. Giving in to your emotions leads down that path.
well that was a mistake. Lucas himself said that the apparent bad aim of the stormtroopers despite the fact that obi-wan on tatooine said "only imperial stormtrropers are that accurate" was a deliberately ploy to allow the heroes to escape so they could track them...
I mean if we really think about it only the Echo base part dosnt ad to in that regard. Vader only used Han and Leia and even had a deal with Boba regarding Han so thats a pretty good reason to keep them alive. As for Luke well bog much of a reason to turn Luke to the dark side if the same Luke is dead am I right Thatt leaves Endor where the Stormtroopers actually handed themselves quite well. They did manage to surround them around the shield generator after all so if not for chewie the rest (apart from Luke for obvious reasons) would basically be done for it
Luke grew up bulls-eyeing swamp rats for fun. He was never merciful behind a light saber either. He was no choir boy. He had what it takes to get the job done.
He’s a psychopath. He kills animals and the moment the people who raised and loved him are killed. He doesn’t so much as shed a tear and just leaves it all behind.
I'll grant that yes the Stormtroopers were told to 'miss' in A New Hope, but what about all the other times they couldn't hit a barn door? Even when they were obviously not told to miss.
And Obi-Wan said "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." earlier in the movie. And then the miss everything. They could've been ordered to miss on the Death Star. But what about Tantooine? And the rest of the films.
Tantive IV - They utterly mop the floor with the Rebels with at most 3 troopers going down on-screen, and no guaruntee that those guys are actually dead. Tatooine - Utterly chaotic situation in the landing bay that didn't last long, and Han didn't hesitate to start shooting anyway. Those Troopers were likely planning for an arrest, not a firefight. Hoth - Tight corridors inside the base with plenty of cover and the Snowtroopers didn't know the layout of the base the way the Rebels did, who were also mounting a retreat rather than holding their ground. By the time they arrived in a more open and ideal killzone, the hangar bay, the heroes had a huge head start on them and were aboard the Falcon before any troopers could try and take any shots. Bespin - Literal urban warfare with very similar advantages for the Rebel side coupled with the assumption that the Falcon's hyperdrive was still disabled, and definitely ordered to back off when Luke did his suicide dive stunt. Endor - If you can stop being a whiny child about the Ewoks for five seconds, it's very clear the Stormtroopers are wrecking the Rebels and Ewoks for most of it - One Rebel even gets sniped while ducking behind cover on top of the bunker. It's only after Chewie and a pair of Ewoks hijack an AT-ST that things finally start turning for the Rebels. Also, one of the troopers scores a hit on Leia with a barely-aimed snapshot while she's crouching behind cover.
@@user-ol2so9ce2q *everything* is useless against lightsabers except for very rare materials that wouldn't be worth using for standard troopers (and some of them are even more ineffective against blasters, such as cortosis), and just because someone goes *down* doesn't mean they're dead. Even in real life full-plate body armour (which may not even be able to stop a full-size rifle round) doesn't completely negate the kinetic energy - Serious bruising, being knocked down, internal injuries, and even unconsciousness can still happen even from pistol rounds.
As far as the bombs, you don't even need magnetics. You can use basic physics. Objects in motion stay in motion. The release mechanism could have easily been some form of pushing system to send them in a certain direction. And since there is no force pushing back they will keep going, The only reason people consider it a flaw is the fact that most Sci-fi stories always have the ships meet with the same side being up, but in space there is no up and their built in gravity systems is what keeps them from floating around. It is very rare to ever see space crafts meet in a way where they are not facing the same way.
Indeed. The bombers could have tilted themselves 90° backwards and "launched" the bombs forward at the enemy ships from a distance. Or could have simply gone underneath and launched upwards.
Not only that as we see, there IS gravity inside the bomb bay, and as such, when the bombs start dropping they would continue to drop in zero gravity due to the original motion.
TBH, I never really thought much about it. There are so many other devices they have that seem to ignore gravity, for example the speeders, I just assumed that there was some sort of a mechanism either in the bombs or in the launcher that gave them the necessary velocity to hit the target. The specifics aren't really that important.
Can't believe the bomb thing is still a thing but the bombers themselves are impractical. They Y wing is a bomber and it's far more effective than the slow moving bomber things. Besides they could have used seismic chargers. Far more effective than some magnetic bomb
I don’t like The Last Jedi, but the bomb complaint never made sense. Whether it was magnets or something else, do we really need to see the characters having a conversation about why the bomb launching weapon is able to do what it was clearly designed to do? This would be like bitching because the characters are on starships, but- *gasp* -they aren’t floating! The horror! Or just use common sense.
And they are clearly above a planet, but not high enough to be completely out of its gravity well. Every other bomber that gets taken out starts falling, for example...
My only complaint would be for how slow and fragile they were. With Po getting the blame for them getting destroyed when the fault lies with whoever built/ commissioned them. An off hand comment about them being mining/industrial ships not built for combat but having no choice but to use them anyway would have helped here.
Yep, it's not like we haven't already seen other items that seemingly ignore gravity, for example all those speeders. The only bit about the bombs that's a bit off is that they are in perfect columns even after leaving the bomb bay. I suppose if there is a magnetic component, that could keep them lined up, but probably more thinking than it's worth. At a certain point thinking about things like that just distracts from the story. Which is probably why it becomes an issue. If you're going to watch it dozens of times, you'll notice things like that.
I saw the original trilogy in the cinemas, saw the first broadcast on tv, saw the video tapes when released. ALL Multiple times. Have absolutely no recollection of a silver leg. No one ever mentioned it. As a child I even had the figures. I had Multiple star wars comics fro, the 1970s NEVER , not once , was that leg silver until very recently. Yet here we are.
i always figured the bombs did drop but that's because their target was so massive that gravity can hold it's own weight and the bombs simply dropped down onto it. but again, it's a movie about space wizards fighting over religion in space so what do i know?
If the bombs were magnetic then surely they would cling to the side of the bomb bay shoot. As it appears to be metal too and magnetism is going to find the least path of resistance to be attracted to. So that doesn't work as an argument, for them trying to find a source and target, that's many many meters away instead.
A filmmaker would never lie to the audience after the fact to cover up their incompetence. Please note the sarcasm. WhatCulture has said that everything they included in here is a fact so because they never get anything wrong you must be even though your logic is sound and factual. Please again, note the sarcasm.
Neither did I, but I also didn't complain about them missing so much. Years later when we learned more about the clone wars and the origins of the storm troopers, it probably would have raised some flags, but at that point, I'd watched the previous movies many times. Plus, it was a pretty common trope during the '70s and '80s for the bad guys to miss a ton. Just look at how often the bad guys on the A-Team missed. Or really people in general on that show missed. You got a lot more action and could still show it on TV.
Leia knew they let them go and were being tracked, yet she immediately went to the rebel base, knowing what the Death Star was capable of. That was the biggest plot hole in the entire movie.
There is gravity in space. That's what keep the planets in orbit. If the dreadnought was keeping the same position above the planet, you know to shoot the resistance base, then it would have to have its repulsors on to keep from falling. In other words, a stationary ship has to fight the planet's gravity. The bombs would fall because of this gravity.
If a ship is in position above a planet, it’s in orbit. Repulsors are for atmospheric flight. At the height above a planet that you’re in orbit, gravity would have no influence over those bombs.
Aside from the stormtroopers potentially being asked to not hit our heroes on the Death Star, almost everyone overlooks two things: that the stormtroopers and all Imperials were actually great shots. And that the heroes were actually experts at evading of being hit. They hit Leia on the Rebel Blockade Runner. 3PO on Cloud City. R2 on Endor. And Leia again on Endor. Furthermore they laid waste to most of the Rebels on the Tantive IV. Melted the flesh off Luke's aunt & uncle. Bullied the Tatooine populace. And annihilated 27 out of 30 rebel fighters at the Battle of Yavin. Overwhelmed with lethal force hundreds or thousands of rebels at the Battle of Hoth. Subjugated the planet Bespin. Took put rebel commandos and dozens of Ewoks on Endor. Destroyed thousands of rebels and their ships at the the battle of Endor. And hit main characters 4 times! Imperials are great shots. Furthermore, the rebel heroes are lethal themselves and experts at escape. The droids are deeply programmed to evade and survive. Chewie, Lando, and Han are lifelong soldiers of fortune, smugglers, and rogue spacers used to staying alert, escaping alive and using deadly force. Luke and Leia were trained in survival and defense and are the offspring of the strongest Jedi maybe ever and have that force instinct to duck and parry 11:10 attacks. They are all that good, thats why they are not killed.
I still remember the first time i realised his leg was silver when i first watched the blu ray release. Within seconds of him walking on scene it stood out like mad... i even had to google it to find out if it was changed by lucas.. but turns out it was just the previously less clarified versions didnt stand out as much.
Regarding TLJ's bombs: so is the remote detonator also magnetic? If the bombs are magnetic why don't they attach to the bomber? Wouldn't it have been easier to explain it by saying the dreadnought gravity well pulled the bombs down on itself?
They're still close enough to D'Qar that the planet's gravity would affect the detonator- which does fall much more slowly. (We also see other ships that lose power start to fall downwards towards the planet.) The "magnetism" is part of the bombing method- like slow railguns, the racks the bombs are in push/pull them out of the bomb bay; the bombs themself then use magnetism to "lock on" to the vessel they were "fired" at
@@ZlothZloth Not if its just generally pointed that way (i.e., moving in that trajectory anyway, with the magnetism giving it a tad of "fine tuning" on the way "down")
They presumably didn't use magnetic metals on either ship's hull. The magnetism is just how they get launched and maintain their order as they leave the ship. Inertia is sufficient to get them the rest of the way.
I think I've figured out why people hate his dialogue so much. It reminds everyone of when they were an awkward youth trying too hard to woo their crush.
Yeah 3po being all gold in the originals and those that are so strongly for it is because those people have never seen the original original trilogy, it is something I noticed the first time the silver anniversary because even in the digitally enhanced OOT his right leg was silver. Magnetic bomb??? um ah um Ah isn't the bomber made of metal, must be the nonmagnetic titanium.
11:00 in addition, these are both children who have not have many romantic relationships before, especially Anakin who is just a kid and has _never_ been romantic with anyone.
I think people cringe because they're being reminded of their own clumsy attempts at courtship in their youths. Nobody gets through puberty without making a fool out of themselves.
The bombs in the Last Jedi didn't need to be magnetic to explain how they fell. They fell for the same reason that Paige herself fell to the bottom of the bomber. They were given downward momentum by the bomber's internal artificial gravity before exiting the ship, and they would have kept this momentum once leaving the ship until they struck something because space is a vacuum and there would have been nothing between the bomber and the dreadnought that could have acted upon the bombs to slow them down or stop them until they hit the dreadnought. The magnetic explanation works too, but it was unnecessary.
also it was known that many jedi killed their padawan due to these force visions so yes i can sort of understand luke skywarkers choice and your point of view
I never did understand the complaint about the bombs 'falling'. To me it was always obvious they were 'fired' in a 'downwards' direction from the *ahem* B17's.
Indeed; heck, they weren't exactly in deep space- they were still in D'Qar's gravity well (though doubtful it'd be as strong as the bombs speed would indicate)
Or how about the artificial gravity in the ship? If the bombs are released in the artificial gravity, as soon as they left the ship, inertia would keep them going directly down til they hit something.
@@elleryvandooyeweert9655 That is exactly the reason I've applied to it ever since I first tried to figure it out. The "magnetic" bombs thing just doesn't work and would put the bombers themselves at risk. Remember that although there is gravity, the strongest gravity is whatever they use for interior deck plating and that itself is unidirectional, which is why we don't see imperials walking on ceilings. Some of that gravity is going to leak upwards from the ship. So, if the bombers attack from above, the bombs get caught in the gravity with no risk to themselves of the bombs deciding to turn around, as they would do if they were magnetic.
@@daviddavies3637not forgetting the Star Wars universe has repulsor technology and tractor beams. Both which could be used to provide the "momentum" needed to make them fall.
I didn't know that there had been an explanation about the bombs from rhe film makers. In a world of tractor beams, anti-gravity and repulsors i found it incredulous that was what people were hung up on. The in universe physics was there to make it believable in universe. The one thing I felt that was out of character for the in universe physics was hyperspace in a planers atmosphere when it's swt up that it wouldn't work in the gravity well of a planetary body.
The bombers in TLJ were paying tribute to the space combat scenes in A New Hope-they’re based on (and in some cases, shot-for-shot remakes) of WWII arial combat footage. And besides, the moment the films used sound in space, all physics pretty much goes out the window.
The bombs were magnetic? That was the best they could come up with. Not the fact the ship had artificial gravity that would have started their decent, then continue moving in that direction once it hit zero gravity?
It's actually pretty good. They are themselves magnetic and probably alternating in polarity, which allows for a magnetic field to accelerate them out of the bomb bay and keep them in those columns.
Another great video, thanks for making it. Is there a reason why the videos never play any audio from the movie clips? Is it a copyright thing? It would be nice to hear the actual dialogue sometimes when it is being discussed.
It probably is, however sometimes they do include clips from the movies, so who knows. Maybe they're doing it so their videos get more comments like this one.
"Your either with me or you're my enemy." Very absolute. "Only Sith deal in absolutes." Also, an absolute statement. He could have said something like "Only Sith _try_ to deal in absolutes." Much better line that doesn't completely obliterate the line before it. JMHO.
I'm sure that line works in your Fanfiction but NOT in the REAL WORLD. So run back to your mommy's basement and pull up your reddit thread so you can add me as a villain in your story and you can even kill me so you're character can be a "hero" and your mommy can be so proud of you
the reason why the bombs are an issue is that Rose's sister died from them and this is the only tome we see the character. As if she died to create Rose, who has no impact on the story other the preventing Finn's death which put the bade in danger. We have no issue with sound and fire in space But since the bombs caused her death and Y-wings exist it stands out. A simple line like "Drop the magnetic bombs." Or "we can't use Y-Wings." Would have helped. 3PO's silver leg was on the 90s toy
Rose does have a point to the story. She was all about the resistance, the cause. Finn was the opposite, he was still out for himself as he was in the Force Awakens, apart from Rey. His concern was for him and his friend. Not the resistance. Rose was there to get him to put others before himself, to believe in something bigger than him. Whilst her development was the opposite, to not be just about the cause, that everything was black and white. That's why she saved Finn. Thats the biggest problem with the Last Jedi, having it set immediately after the Force Awakens. A good portion of character development had to be fitted in to the film. To put it another way, the needs of the many outweigh the few or the needs of the few outweigh the many. That's the plot for those two characters.
Thanks for bringing attention to all these things fans get wrong. If you do another one with more, heres a huge one: Lando did not betray Han Solo. Its all right there in the script, the various adaptions and onscreen. The deal was to temporarily detain the group to lure an enemy of the Empire to Vader. A Luke Skywalker who Lando was unaware was their friend. Not telling Han and co. the Imperials were there was the worst he did, and that was being put in that tight spot of having to keep from being killed himself and to protect his thousands of citizens at Bespin. Temporary detainment to get a wanted man to the Imps and save your friends and community and keep Cloud City free from Imperial meddling was the obvious option everyone would take. The fact Vader and the Empire kept changing the deal to their advantage lead to his flipping the script back at them, to get his people warned so they could try to escape, help his friends escape, and to do the same for Han. Lando got justice for the grievances and the last laugh at the Battle of Endor.
#10 Then why would "The Chosen One" create said balance, becoming a Sith Yoda said, "A Prophecy, misread, could have been" It didn't say that he would Destroy the Sith... He created scaled balance, even amounts of Good and Evil; Balance. What is good without evil?
I'd the bombs were magnetic whey wouldn't the just connect to their own metal magnetic ship? If they just said the bombs were pushed down that would have made more sense.
The bombs were magnetic, the ships weren't. They had a magnetic launcher to help with cases where they're bombing things that are in deep space or where the planet is too small to have a significant gravitational field. The scene itself is close enough to the planet to still be affected by the planet's gravitation.
This list lol Storm Troopers were told to let them go in that instance but they are terrible shots all the time. Even to the point, the Mandalorian has an entire scene about it. Luke considering killing Ben was considered being out of character because the only other comparison we had was from the original trilogy. If he changes so much since then, that seemed like the story that SHOULD have been told. That seemed way more interesting than the story they did tell. The sand line, nobody said it didn't make sense. It was poorly delivered and was just stupid at that moment. This scene was supposed to be romantic but it just came off as weird
The bombs: Everyone gets this wrong and this video is not different. Firstly, that close to a planet and the ship IS still in the planet's gravitational field. For our 21st Century spacecraft to remain in space we need to orbit at great speed and fall over the horizon continually but a Star Wars spacecraft can use its anti-gravity drive to hover in one place over the planet; geostationary but low! QED, if the bomb bay is excluded from the effect of the anti-gravity drive then the bombs WILL fall straight down like any other bomb in planetary gravity!
Not the last Jedi has some cool scenes, but it’s ultimately just boring and doesn’t move along the story. It’s fine if you want to say people fundamentally change, but you can’t fundamentally change character, offscreen, and expect people to be happy
"Bombs cant fall in zero gravity".... did everyone forget they were in orbit above a planet? You know what happens when you release something above a planet? They fall!
I haven't seen the movie in quiet a while, but that's what I always assumed. The magnetic aspect would explain how they remained in formation as they dropped.
Magnetic bombs is even worse than forgetting about gravity absence. Pushing bombs magnetically is like trying to recreate a catapult in space. It's the least efective useage of technology, in a scenario where drones, droids, vehicles and EVERYTHING can be self propelled. Late and lame excuse.
But, they were within the gravitational well when those were being dropped. They didn't forget about gravity, the magnetism is what explains how they remained in formation and how they were launched from a ship that might need to use them in space without the benefit of gravity.
Unearned dusty sentimentality of the prior movies??? What does that even mean? Also yes of course it makes sense for Rian to use the bad guy to promote a theme of the film. He’s all about subverting expectations.
#2 - Alright so you're making two entirely separate and contradictory arguments here, neither of which makes for good *storytelling* or a satisfying arc from the last time we saw Luke (RotJ) - Either he completely forgot all of the lessons he had learned throughout the OT and regressed his character development, or a huge amount of character development that would get him to that point was entirely skipped over to make him an entirely different character than we had seen before.
What is the character development you are referring to in this case? Would it be that he rejected a dark impulse before, therefore he should never feel dark impulses again?
Indeed. I think we can all agree that a trilogy depicting the rise of the First Order, Luke's fall from grace and Ben tuning to the dark side would have made for a much better story than the fan fiction* we actually got. *(Not actually fan fiction as that would require those writing it to actually be fans)
@@screwielewie There's another RU-vid channel, Overly Sarcastic Productions, that talked about time jumps and specifically mentioned the RotJ->TFA & TLJ jump and how incredibly dissatisfying those developments (or regressions) were.
Hang on...the bombs are magnetic? What about all of the magnetic stuff that is a lot closer to the bombs...like the ship carrying them? The "they were in a gravity field" would have been a much more believable explanation. After all, everyone acts like they are in a stable gravity environment. That bomb release thingy...ah...dropped.
Wrong Wrong Wrong. The Bombs would fall. "Well as they slowed when leaving the ships ) They are in orbit of a planet. They are not in zero gravity. Satellites, the space station, rockets, and shuttles are all falling but also moving. Or have forward velocity (I think that's the correct way to put it). That's why they orbit. They are in a free fall but are moving fast enough to fall around the earth. If you throw an object, it will travel a distance and then fall. If you throw it fast enough to reach the curvature of the planet (but not too fast to escape its gravity), the ground would curve away and the object would be in an endless fall. Thus an orbit. The ships are in orbit of the planet but once the bombs leave, without their own proportion, they would fall. Probably not like in the movie because they are at an altitude with considerably less drag than if they were lower in the atmosphere.
If you make something happen in a movie. You have to explain IN THE MOVIE. Not directors making stuff up afterwards or in a series later. Of something happens in a show or movie you can't later explain it somewhere else and say fans are stupid for calling it out. They made up the excuse after the movie because people called it out. It was bad action and story telling.
I agree with you about some of the more complicated stuff, but then there also needs to be stuff that you just let the audience figure out on their own, otherwise they may feel like the writers think they're stupid.
@KyloBen2016 sure things can be open but when it's shit like "somehow Palpatine returned" that's just dogshit. And you have to read about it in a comic how he returned. Terrible story telling.
@kevindagod They do explain in the movie how he returned using clone bodies and essence transfer. The "Somehow Palpatine returned" line is from a character's viewpoint early in the movie and is not the movie's explanation for how he returned. You might be confusing this with the origins of Snoke, which did have to be explained in other media.
Luke had a split second of doubt in his mind. Meanwhile Luke wailed on vader for like a minute and was only able to pull himself from going too far at the last second.
That explanation for the bombs is dumb AF. If they're magnetic, even if they begin to drop out towards the target, as soon as they left the bomb bay, they'd just as likely slow down because of the magnetism of the bomber, which is closer, and turn around. I've always thought that a better explanation was simple. There's no gravity in space but ... why isn't the pilot floating around? The Star Wars universe has technology that can produce gravity in ships. That level of gravity isn't going to be confined to the interior of the ships. And as that gravity seems to be unidirectional, the bombs would have worked if they flew over the top of the ship but not the bottom. And that's what they seemed to do, IIRC. And because the gravity on ships is unidirectional, there's no risk of the bombs deciding to turn around and hit the bomber. So, there you go. Easy explanation that works, insofar as any sci-fi explanation for anything works.
Yeah, the problem isn’t that the line about sand doesn’t make sense. It’s that it’s really terrible and dumb and delivered poorly lol. I can’t believe that’s the number one on this list… You guys must’ve been really bored lol
Uh, if the bombs were magnetic, they never would have left the metal bomber they were in. Face it. The “magnetic” bombs were a bad retcon done by idiot filmmakers. The Last Jedi is pure shit.
For me though, the worst thing about the bombers was how weak and slow they were. It's almost as if the writers wanted them to suffer heavy loses to make Po look bad. No blame on whoever built the dam things or approved them for field combat.
@@spaceace4387 No, that was my point. On the Death Star it was because the stormtroopers were ordered to miss. Any time other than that, just chalk it up to basic plot armour.
@@screwielewie Funny we never had any line of dialogue that the storm troopers were ordered to miss, we never had any line of dialogue that proves that stormtrooopers were in on Tarkins plan. All we know is that: A) Tarkin put a homing beacon on the Falcon and B) Leia believes that they let them go. It sounds like you're just making stuff up which is logical considering the Storm Troopers aim is consistent with how they aimed in the 2 sequels.
@@spaceace4387 I'll admit: it's inferred. I'm just going with what makes sense. Which in this case is that if they went to the trouble of putting a homing beacon on the Falcon, and taking out the entire rebellion was more important than killing a couple of its members, then it stands to reason that they would make sure that they escaped. In the end though, it's all just fan theory and doesn't really matter beyond one's own enjoyment of the story.
3 separate subjects: reel-world logic, counterfeit values, and what any given viewer likes. Magnetic bombs are a premise. If this channel seeks to highlight that premise, it would help to avoid labels in the emotional realm, i.e. "sequel haters."
Luke's drastic change itself wasn't the issue, it was the fact that we clearly skipped over an entire trilogy's worth of character development to get there. The creators of that "movie" obviously didn't have the writing skills or inclination to put the work in to make this depiction of Luke plausible. That's why the fans reject it.
The Last Jedi was actually a good film and it is a shame they didn't stick with the director for the last film. The idea of Rey being from nowhere as opposed to from a strong bloodline was novel and interesting, and Luke's disillusionment over the years was more well thought out than the Luke so many people wanted. People sometimes compare his sparing Vader with him wanting to kill Ren. They appear to forget that he only contemplated killing Ren for a moment and chose not to. He pretty much killed Vader. Yes, he didn't deal a killing blow but the damage he had done to him had pretty much ended him. If Luke had seriously wanted to kill Ren he could have done it there and then, but he didn't. It is not surprising he contemplated it. Everything he had strived for looked for a moment to be at threat. He was and had been the only Jedi Knight left ( okay, perhaps not now the various TV series have come out but as near as dammit ) and he had trod a very lonely path ever since embarking on the journey to become a Jedi.
