No Roland. We wonder why people put old aero engines into cars! Then many of us wonder how we can get one and do the same... As for wondering why Americans put unnecessarily large engines in their cars, we don't do that. What we DO do is look at the capacity and then the power output and laugh our tits off when compared to what OUR engines produce half the size of yours!
It's really incredible and unbelieveable what speeds they reached already 100 years ago. Just imagine doing 180km/h in that naked Dirraq V8 or over 400 in that 6 wheeler Benz T80 in 1938😱
Okay so it's not the T80, but at 7:59 at the bottom of the screen there is some kind of streamlined speed record car with some kind of giant forced induction aero engine running on a science fiction formula of synthetic liquids, generating thousands of horsepower and capable of running at hundreds of miles per hour. And at the top of the screen, there is a cart being pulled by a horse. The '30s must have been incredibly weird.
At 3:00 the kid just shat herself. As for the other people what the fuck did the expect. Did they expect it to sound like a Toyota Prius of course it's going to be fucking loud.
It's not T80 indeed. It's a streamlined version of W154. mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsClassic/en/instance/ko/Mercedes-Benz-W-154-streamlined-record-car-with-separate-streamlined-wheel-houses-1939.xhtml?oid=6850
The majority of the fuel for the T80 is also the main component in the nitro RC cars that allow engines of 0.18ci to develop power in excess of 2hp at stupidly high rpm.
The Bf 109 used DB 601 and later DB 605 engines, they weren't as big or powerful as the 603. 400 mph is about right for a late 109, but that's at something like 20,000 ft altitude, where the air drag is of course much lower. I doubt they reached more than 320 mph at sea level.
All those really old Land speed record cars are scary. The drivers must have had huge balls. I wouldn't want to go 30kph in one of them with so skinny tires and what not, way to scary for me.
The Napier lion was referred to as a “broad arrow” engine, not a W12 even though other later engines of similar configuration were often called W12’s. Just for your information, I happen to know the guy who built the Napier Bentley and I believe has now sold it on. Keep up the good work mate! Love the work you put into researching interesting engines and vehicles.
CORRECTION: The Mercedes in the video isn't the T80, unfortunately, it is other land speed record breaking Mercedes with a completely different engine. Really sorry about this situation. Besides that, the Napier-Bentley wins for me. How about you?
the T80 never run due to WWII. Ironically Hitler wanted to show up who is the best mechanic/engineer, by creating this vehicle with the intention to run in the area of 700km/h. Hitler suicided, but this masterpiece of 0,18 Cd survived.
Yeah, I was going to say something about that. The sound going along with the footage of the T80 definitely didn't sound like a 2000 rpm aircraft engine. It sounded more like a Mercedes Grand Prix auto racing engine from the same era. The speed record cars were basically their racing cars with more aerodynamic bodies. But they did run on exotic mixtures of nitrobenzene and alcohol.
it seems there's no footage for the T-80 record... because war happend ! ...30's was a time for engines and cars ! they went crazy with "Komprezor" and stuff like that !
@@Gojira_uzThere were definitely tanks, using radial engines based on aero engines. Youv'e probably seen the round engines on WW2-era planes. They have those numbers of cylinders.
That Mercedes is insane, the styling looks like something that would be considered futuristic even today. Was it built in Nazi Germany, it certainly looked like it was and also since it had a Messerschmidt engine I'd imagine so.
Hitler and Germany in general were a bit obsessed with formula 1 and land speed records pre-war. Mercedes and Auto Union basically had German government backing and formula one races in Germany would have bigger crowds then than they do now.
Yes, it was still just called Gran Prix then. Yes, the "mighty" Brits held most land speed records then. Yes, that engine normally used in a Messerschmitt was build by Daimler-Benz. Yes, that car isn't the T80. The video poster already left a comment correcting that. It doesn't change the fact that racing was very popular in pre-war Nazi Germany and that Mercedes and Auto-Union basically had government backing. You're quite the multi-tasker. You can split hairs and be an asshole at the same time. I'll give you my cookie.
In my 64 years of being a hardcore gearhead , with a small collection of awesome 60s 70s muscle cars , the Rolls knocks my socks off, Wish I was a billionaire, I would buy it at any price.. Kudos..
Most of these are aero engines......as most don’t rev beyond 2500 rpm....they don’t have much power for there size....but the torque and reliability is huge....which is what planes need.
Yeah, aero engines usually have something around 7:1 even naturally aspirated. Don't ask me why, that's something I've been searching about for a long time, maybe ram air effect, dunno. If someone with knowledge about aero engines could enlighten us that would be awesome.
probably because in an areo engine, you must keep parameters far form conditions that can cause preignition and damage to the engine as these engines are used in a variety of conditions and some of these are favorable to preignition as dry warm air, the quality of fuel, the degree of carbon accumulation in the combustion chambers, overheat, etc... usually they use a turbocharger to compensate the low compression ratio, this way, is is feasible to adjust running parameters to cease detonnation in flight if this occurs and safely bring the aircraft to destination in aviation, the safety is the prime factor of any design
because the aero engines usually had a supercharger, and as a super charger is set at a constant boost the engines needed lower conp to not detonate, some had higher comp ratio and would get further on the same amount of fuel but they had to go with less boost from the supercharger which would result in an overall power loss, witch in the WWII era may be the difference between life or death.
Testo d hegenplo They don't rev aircraft engines too high. That thing probably was done at 2000rpms. Most of the standard "normal" aircraft engines don't go much over 25-2800, 3000 is outta sight! Once you turn a propeller faster than the speed of sound, it stops working.
MrTheHillfolk say WHAT? you now they run low rpm's because the engines are set up to produce max power at low working rpm and need to be reliable. A high revving engine is not likely to stay reliable as a aero engine use about 75% of the engines max output when they are cruising, something a car engine never needs to as you use far less energy to keep a car moving imagine sitting at 4k rpm in your car with the gas pedal mashed to the floor while going down the highway, every day hours upon hours. Besides the theory you got about propellers going faster than the speed of sound makes them stop working is beyond stupid as strong engine can drive a bigger propeller to provide more speed, and a smaller engine would use a smaller prop, and the angling on the prop is also a factor. think about it, a turbo has the same job as a propeller, to move air, if a prop stops working at higher rpm's how come a turbo work at 100 000rpm?
The 1905 Darraq is supposed to be the first V8, but it was not a production line engine. The frame is pretty minimal & you can see the torque reaction twist the thing when the driver opens the throttle. Brutus is an absolute beast and so is the Handlye Special. The British Bulldog vs the evil Hun. I would love to drive that Fiat S76 through central London dressed like Biggles & let the blast from the exhaust ports break shop windows. The driver of Brutus cooks frankfurters with the exhaust flames. With the Fiat one could roast an entire lamb.
I can't say much about the displacements but judging by what I see with most of them I'd say the power numbers are grossly overstated. The Mercedes T80 0-60 of 1.32 seconds? dream on, no way.
Kinda doubt that 0-100kmh at that time was 1.32sec. It isnt just fact of HP rather that grip that tires provide. With narrow tires with technology at that time i rly doubt that result.
MateoB that isnt a t80 that merc was a rekordwagen and the t80 has much wider and larger wheels the rekordwagen only had 2 rear wheels instead of the t80s 4 rear wheels
engeneering explaind said that the fastest time a modern car on factory performance tyres could acheve 62mph is 2.3 seconds. it is explained, that the grip a tyre provides cannot accelerate a car any faster unless its an enormus high performance drag racing tyre. i highly doubt 1,3 seconds as well.
2.5 seconds is outragously quick for street tyres as well, no way a figure even close to that would be possible without a carefully adjusted AWD system and traction control. Also people seem to underestimate the advances in tyre technology within the last 50 years. Tyre compounds back then were way harder to avoid wear. And it's just wrong from a conceptual point. You either go for top speed or for acceleration. If you want to go for both, it's going to be a compromise. I'd like to see just one car that set both a speed record and an acceleration record.
Thanks tim reynolds for your comments you are correct, I watched him win many races on his vincent untill his slight altercation with an unlit car on an unlit road whilst riding his hesketh, I have been following this car from the early 70,s with pictures to match. The pipes were origionally white and much longer as pictured at Silverstone in 1972. All we now need is a picture of Basil !!!
I believe that the Handlye was built by the guy who bought a motorcycle from me many years back, at that point the car was close to being finished. As I recall he said the engine came from a Hawker Hurricane, which was another of many many aircraft that utilized the Merllin. He said he got hold of 2 engines and using the best pieces from both built the engine that's in the car. I can't remember the timescale but it was in the order of 10 years or longer in the making.
I said the same thing to myself. Loved it. He is in it to win it. Plus he looks really cool staying all stream line behind the wheel. My favorite part of this neat video.
Just thought I would like to add that chriss Williams did not build the Napier. It was created between 1968 -1972 by the origional owner Peter Morley and helped by david llewellin. Peter raced it but rolled it at oulton Park when it was then re,bodied replacing the Bentley radiator. It was started out using a Tigress chassis but this was found out to be not strong enough. During tight bends half the cylinders would stop as there was not enough fuel feeding the engine so more pumps were added. Chris removed the origional set of exhaust stubs gave them to me which I have on the wall of my house . The horizontal set are now uplighters.
That T80 Mercedes is unbelievable holy shit. 1.32 seconds to 60 in 1939!? Like what must it have been like to drive the damn thing when the next fastest car in Germany was the original VW beetle.
The correct term for the layout of the Napier 3 banks of 4 cylinders is a “Broad Arrow” as the Napier Lion was known and is a different layout to the VeeDub donk which is really 2 V6’s joined together
Beam Engee Because the streets back than were round with the highest point in the middle so the rainwater can run off. With the positive camber they solved the problem withe the wheels not standing straight to the surface.
Guess what, streets are still round or sloped for water to run off. But they were never the reason for that amount of positive camber. If that was the case, why didn't they do the same to rear wheels?
3:30 42 liter engine, 4 inch wide tires. Go figure... :-) Seems like the goal in those days wasn't fast acceleration, nor going fast around bends, but just high straight-line speed after a long run up...
Most of these airplane engined cars (called "specials") are based on or inspired by 1920s-1940s race cars. To keep them looking period correct they're fitted with period correct tires. Tire technology was really bad back then, they had what was called pneumatic tires which often had no belting in them at all, so they had the be narrow and inflated to very high pressures or they'd just flop around all over the place like big puffy balloons.
The Darracq is water cooled as well. The V on the front is the radiator, and the brass torpedo atop the engine is the coolant header tank. Unfortunately the owner, Mark Walker, had an engine problem at Mallory Park a few years ago. I believe he is in progress of repairing the block etc. I also have a few videos of the Darracq, Napier Bentley and the Beast of Turin on my channel. Just short clips from different events.
I know the Handlay Special and have met and spoken with it's owner, Robin, on several occasions. My friend bought his "spare" engine and is building a car around it using a Rolls Royce 25/30 chassis.
