10 Terrible Things the Jedi Order Did 

1. What they did to Ahsoka.

Obi Wan: "You were the chosen one, you were supposed to bring balance to the Force!" Palpatine: "Two Jedi left and Two Sith left... seems balanced to me, bro."

"Did you ever hear about the terrible deeds of the Jedi?" "No." "I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you."

I think i'll quote Super Best Friends about what they did to Revan. "Yeah, we removed your memories, autonomy and self determination so you can redeem yourself in the eyes of *OUR* religion."

You could say that the Mandalorians and Jango through the clones, did get their revenge for what the Jedi did all those years ago.

Lol I killed loads in my office

The Jedi lost their way when they decided to act as agents of the republic instead of agents of the force. There is not a single reason that the Jedi should have opposed the separatists attempts to peacefully leave the republic that doesn't involve their beliefs that the republics needs must come first. The republic was largely failing to protect and provide for the separatists and they should have had the right to shape their own governments. The Jedi could easily spent the last 1000 years challenging slavery or exploring the unknown regions or doing what the force guided them to do instead they became glorified bodyguards for the core worlds. I believe that by taking orders from the senate instead of focusing on the will of the force the Jedi began to loose their connection to the force and the whole order became blinded by arrogance and became unbalanced. When the Jedi backed the republic they all but ensured that the separatists would need to turn to the Sith in order to not be immediately defeated. Yes Sidious was largely involved but the resentments of the Separatists were legitimate. The handling of the blockade of Naboo honestly makes me wonder why Padmae was such a Republic loyalist.

Number Six is misleading. Mace Windu and the others weren't there to assassinate the Chancellor. They suspected him of being a Sith, yes, but that wasn't specifically what was illegal -- it was him being a Sith WHICH IN TURN meant that he was the one responsible for the Separatists and thus the war that they were arresting him for... getting rid of a Sith was just a bonus. They knew by then that Dooku had become a Sith and there is always Two of them. They actually very clearly said that they were there to arrest him, which would have lead to due process presumably. It is only after Palpatine reveals himself as a Sith Lord and kills three Jedi that Mace decides he needs to be killed. At that point, he had effectively admitted to being both evil and confirmed himself as the true enemy of the Republic and Windu both knew it was too dangerous to let him live AND was technically acting in self-defense by then since Sidious was clearly trying to murder him to resist arrest as he had just done to Masters Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, and Agen Kolar.

Slave army of clones...

But Revan has a good outfit, and was a badass.

11:37 I don't know if Obi-Wan cutting off a dudes arm who's holding blaster at Luke's gut in a lawless space bar is even ethically questionable, It's self defense. He even tried to deescalate the situation by buying them a round. And as far as Ezra luring Imperial combatants back to their base to blow them up, I don't think that holds much water either. Imagine a French resistance fighter in WWII luring Nazi's back to their base to blow it up, I'm not sure if I'd call that foul play. I like that you play devil's advocate in these vids Alan, but sometimes I think you stray a bit too far into unreasonable territory.

The Jedi aren’t the good guys but the sith aren’t good either.

Stuff like this would have been great motivation for Luke to think the Jedi need to end in TLJ, rather than "Darth Vader was trained by a Jedi and the Jedi don't own the force."

It is a problem in our society that people base weather some one is good or evil on what side their on, and not on what they do. "He's on our side, so we'll ignore that fact that he's throwing puppies of a forth floor balcony." "He's not on our side, so we'll give him the death penalty for walking on the grass."

But what about the Sith Genocide, where the Jedi attempted literal genocide against the Sith purebloods and turned Korriban into a tomb world until the Sith Empire could return and reclaim their home

You forgot to mention the Sith Genocide by the Jedi and Republic after the Great Hyperspace War.

To be fair, Mace and the Jedi tried to arrest Palpatine first.

At least you're unbiased when it comes to fictional politics

I believe for Revan they just wiped his mind, nothing like bashed his mind till he forgot. Whether or not memory wipes are moral is another discussion, but the description in the video paints a different image of events.

Whenever people talk about this I’d like to point them to another fictional series: Assassin’s Creed. Though not the exact same the Jedi had more in common with the Templars (control and obedience) while the Sith had more in common with the Assassins (individuality and free will). Only in AC, the assassins are the protagonists. By twisting narratives the same ideals can become good/evil.

No Taxation without representation!

In general the Jedi Order around the time of the Clone Wars was literally at one of the worst points that it had ever been ideologically and philosophically. What you see is in the movies is a prestigious order and group at the end of it's life having lost it's way, blinded by it's own arrogance and naiveté. The only thing I must contest is the choice to attack Palpatine, they were essentially backed into a corner with few options, most of the ones you listed would have entailed a high risk of Palpatine learning about their knowledge of him as a Sith which would have likely sent him into hiding. On top of this Palpatine had rigged the Senate and Judiciary so he was almost guaranteed to be a free man had they attempted to depose him through the legal system. The downside is that the Jedi had no idea of how powerful Palpatine actually was in the Force which meant any dealings would be highly dangerous.

As for #1, the Jedi saw the Clones as expendable because the Jedi saw THEMSELVES as expendable. They were all ready to charge forward and die for the Republic, as was evidenced in that big free-for-all in the Geonosis Arena. So they expected the same thing from their own soldiers. Each Jedi is taught that self-sacrifice is the highest goal, to sacrifice oneself for the Force, for peace, and for justice. The Jedi expected the same from their Clone Troopers or even the Republic Troopers of the Old Republic Era. So that isn't a crime. This is just the Jedi being lemmings ready to die for the cause because that's how they were raised, so they treated their soldiers the same way. Most Jedi Commanders weren't heartless assholes, they weren't like the fucking Imperial Commissars from 40K, they were more like well-meaning naive Leeroy-Jenkins types who were ready to meet death on the battlefield and expected their men to be the same. Pong Krell doesn't count, because by the time of Umbara, he was already a Separatist agent, so he was just getting Clones killed on purpose so the Separatists can win.

"Being a Sith isn't illegal" Good point...

#1:existing.

Considering Anikin was "bought" out of slavery and slavery was only illegal in the Republic, of which Tatooin was not a part, yes the Jedi were OK with slavery that was outside their jurisdiction. Not that it stopped them from screwing the slave owner over in retaliation or cheating (which I assume would be illegal there) to get the choice of slave he wanted.

“All the children he’s fathered out of wedlock” .... baby yoda :O

That was a few things that have been worse than some of listed by You: 1) The genocide of the sith species 2) Bombardment of Mandalor 3) Jedi Shadows - trained to destroy anything and everything connected with the Sith and their followers, and also to track down and (in some cases) even kill wild force users or fellow Jedi if they (in the opinion of that particular Jedi Shadow) were tempted by the dark side. 4) And of course, the expulsion of Ahsoka from the Jedi Order, so as not to lose the republic's support in the war.

What about the time in legends that the Jedi practically exterminated the Sith species on their home world Coraban that wasn’t very peaceful was it

Thank you for using that old republic comic. That was definitely one of the things to show the Jedi's evil, dark side that they pretend doesn't exist

I just realized that in between the “E” and “C” on his shirt there is a millennium falcon silhouette.

"BALANCE IS KEY." That's somehow how i see the Jedi and Sith in their own universe.

The advertisement for mr Rodger's neighborhood in the middle of jedi killing children was priceless.

I told you the Jedi were evil!

Lost me at comparing 5 highly accomplished seers having a vision of the future to you having nightmares after eating a bad taco.

"HE'S TOO POWERFUL TO BE LEFT ALIVE!" ...He aint wrong.

It's better to be Grey Jedi. Grey Jedi is love, Grey Jedi is life. 😏

The New Jedi Order from Legends managed to avoid most of the pitfalls of the old Jedi Order, and even managed to survive one of their number turning to the Dark Side on several occasions, and weathered the Yuuzhan Vong War, when every other faction was torn apart and mashed back together.

Generation Tech I think you would agree that there a few jedi that stood out above the rest of the order that showed great compassion for the clones they commanded. Yoda, kit fisto, mace windu, plo koon, and of course obi wan and anakin plus asoka. Each of these masters, throughout the main series but also through the cannons showed true feelings they had in battle and down time. And after watching this video I love how you tie everything in together. Keep up the neutral position I love it and frankly describes how I view everything.

0:37 I like how this channel exist within the universe in the multiverse and not the fictional one in my universe

So asokha was a preteen commander who in a wreakless attack got several clone pilots killed. Anakin then punished like she has taken the family car for a spin. Let's not forget these clones are growth accelerated but still human so these technically child slave soldier which are thrown about by a child like toys to be broken.

That’s the best video yet. I love how you discuss matters relating to our beloved Galaxy Far Far Away as if those characters and events existed in our presently perceived reality. In life I often run to that Galaxy to hide and relax. The riggers and trails of this world make those little vacations all the more refreshing. So I am very entertained when I watch one of your videos because of your realistic matter of fact dissertation of events or characters that existed in our vacation galaxy. Thank you for all the hard work and I prefer you over British Ben. I feel like he owns a white panel van “free candy” spray painted on the side. I fear he is Vong in disguise. He frightens me.

In another sith origin story, the sith were originally a species, that such as the dathomirians or the rakata had a very special connection to the dark side. When a group of exciled dark jedi came to their planet, Korriban, they trained the sith in the dark side and they eventually created an empire. After a war and defeat with the republic the jedi decided the sith were too dangerous, so they bassically made a sith version of order 66, known as the sith holocaust. The few escaping sith created the sith order and the second sith empire.

They brought ajunta pall when he was born and he exhiles and formed the sith order with the red sith becoming the first darklord

I’m still convinced that the Jedi are NOT evil. However, very often throughout their history, they were something that can be just as bad as being “evil”: Being dogmatic. When they believe their way as it is is the ONLY correct path, and refuse to adapt, evolve, and/or reform to meet the needs of the changing times, it will ALWAYS create more problems than solutions for the Galaxy. This is why Luke Skywalker (the TRUE Luke Skywalker from the EU/Legends, and my personal headcanon) worked so hard to completely restructure and reorganize the Jedi Order after Episode VI. If he felt that a practice/tradition of theirs caused more harm than good, both for the Galaxy and for the Order itself, he did what previous generations of Jedi SHOULD have done: He ABOLISHED it!

Omg, when he said: "Steve", I thought he was talking directly to me 😂

This personifies Palestine’s line in the opera scene of episode III, “good is a point of view.”

0:49 "impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete"

Why is the genocide of all sentient individuals in the aftermath of the Great Hyperspace War not included as the number one?

2018: GT - "The Jedi Secret Archives contains a list of the children Yoda has fathered out of wedlock." 2019: The Mandalorian - "So, here's a baby Yoda who was born 50 years ago, during the height of the Jedi Order..."

After this video and hearing about the covenant I just realize that, from everytime a Jedi had a force vision, their actions towards that vision is the detonator of that vision actully happening.

Well for #6 technically owning sith artifacts and practicing sith teachings is illegal in the republic is dates back before the russan reformation

I would put the role the Jedi played in the genocide against the people of the Sith after the Great Hyperspace War on the first place. It is not eactly the same as their hate towards the order of the Sith, since in that case the Jedi accepted and in part executed a policy of the Old Republic against a whole species (or more than one) on several planets. Just because they saw a strong connection between them and the dark side (but I guess most of the victims where by far not force-sensitive enough to ever become a dark foce user). It was the Republic who started this genocide, but the Jedi where part of it. Had they used the knowledge of the ancient Sith priests to understand the dark side better than living the dream to exterminate it once and for all, maybe some of the later wars could have been avoided.

Can you do a what if Grand Moff Tarkin ran america please?

The difference between your funky dreams and force visions is that force visions are real. In the case of the Jedi Covenant the very attempt to prevent their vision from coming to fruition was what brought it to fruition.

If the Jedi were responsible for your beard it would be on the list.

HEY! This is Steve and I have been a subscriber for a while now. Don't guilt trip the innocent, Mom...

I can see how some of these things can be portrayed as bad from a certain point of view.

Didn't Palpatine technically resist arrest? He also killed two Jedi.

Detachment from people and emotions doesn't make you a psychopath but psychopaths might have these traits.

What about when they committed mass genocide on the sith species (not just the men but the women and children too)

"objectve" "unbiased" i love my imperial holo net

Obi wan slicing the pirates hand off could be considered self defense

You're mistaken in thinking that the Jedi are above the laws. While they do have several authoritative powers granted by the Chancellor, they can only act within their assigned jurisdiction within the Republic. Qui-Gon had absolutely no authority to just take a Slave off of a planet where slavery is legal. He only took Anakin after securing his freedom, and after getting consent from his Mother, and because he felt compelled to by the Force. And even if he did abscond with Shmi, what then? She wouldn't be allowed to stay at the Temple, and without any funds of her own she would more than likely live in a state of poverty on the streets of Coruscant. At least under Watto she had a home and the promise of being fed everyday.

This sounds lke a empire propaganda video

what's the music playing in the background in the beginning?

Love the synthwave tunes. At 5:44 I had to pause the video to make sure I didn't leave my music on in another tab! What is the songs you're using? Otherwise, great video, and I learned quite a bit!

Allen, I love how you continue to question, challenge & expose the Jedi order! At the end of the day, Jedi & Sith are just two sides of the exact same coin!

Love this channel

Ummm you done messed up. Wato was immune to Jedi persuasion. Seriously, did you watch the movie

Hey! Where was the Generation Tech “End Theme Tune”..?!! I was looking forward to that, to complete another outstanding GenTech video 😉👍

You just gained a subbed👍🏼 really enjoyed how you presented the content and stayed on point until the subject was done, instead of spouting nonsense like most youtubers do. Awesome work man, hope to see more videos soon!

So I love your videos and have been watching them for a while and think they are really informative and well edited with really good information but I just don't agree with most of your points personally I argue the jedi have done bad stuff ie. the sith holocaust but many of the things you argue are bad I would argue aren't. 1. I get your point with this one however I mean can you blame the jedi for trying to win a war against the sith empire thats like complaining about some of the bad stuff the UK did during WW2 but they did that in order to defeat hitler I believe its justified in the circumstances and outside of wartime the jedi didn't do this so I feel its not a real issue with the jedi. 2. Thats awful can't really argue with that one but tbh thats an issue with individuals not the order as a whole. 3. Thats just a mistake one individual made and I mean thats just a mistake I don't think you can blame the jedi as a whole for it 4. Again I understand for this one but its again during a time of war and so in the circumstances it makes sense to try and get information from Revan in order to be able to stop the war going on so long 5. Yeah the jedi became more trapped in their ways and extreme but literally all the sith wars were started by an attack by the sith and so while the jedi's inability to compromise caused the wars you are massively underplaying the role of the sith in these wars. 6. This isn't really an issue I mean to start with Palpatine purposely got the jedi more involved in politics to try and show the republic the jedi were interfering in politics. Also Windu went there to arrest Palpatine not to kill him he said twice you are under arrest and its only after Palpatine tries to kill him again that windu decides to kill him and Palpatine had effective control over most of the senate and the judicial system so impeachment wouldn't have really worked. 7. Qui gon did attempt to free Shmii too anyway but he couldn't manage it and anyway tattooine isn't part of the republic and so slavery isn't illegal and the jedi have no jurisdiction there anyway. 8. Very odd argument the republic were told a few years later and the argument that the jedi would have been more prepared is not true as it wasn't till the last days of the republic that the jedi discovered that palpatine was a sith and as you said earlier being a sith isn't a crime so why would the republic help arrest Palpatine. 9. Yeah this is true and some of the stuff the jedi did was awful namely the sith holocaust and they got away with it but in your example of anakin and the CIS you argue it would be believed to be a warcrime well I don't think it would be no living beings died as a result of his actions unless you include b1 battle droids and they helped free a planet that was being horribly repressed by the CIS your example of ezra bridger also is taken from a freedom fighter helping to free a planet being repressed by the empire you're not being objective as you brand him as a terrorist while that is what the empire would call him it is not what he was he believed he was helping free people from oppression and these events therefore are not as black and white as you paint them especially during times of war. Most of your examples are taken from times of war where many of their actions are justified in order to free planets and people from repressive regimes and murderous dictatorships. 10. This one is true and imo the jedi never should have become generals in an army as windu says to palpatine at the start of attack of the clones "we're not soldiers" however many of the jedi did have close relationships with clones and seemed hurt when they died and furthermore yoda himself argued that the clones were living beings who weren't just robots to be chucked into war as seen in the clone wars tv show. Some of the jedi generals cared little for the clone soldiers under their command but some of these were revealed to be under the influence of the sith and so that again is not an issue with the jedi.

7:58 yes this was ridiculus some space wizards just come and kill me for using the dark side

I don't like the way they prohibit their Jedi to fall in love. That's not a voluntary thing, you can't help falling in love.

10:24 “when Obi-wan Kenobi and Qui-gon Jin run into Darth Maul...” *epic opening encounter to Battle of the Fates whilst 80s synth pop plays in the background with Allen’s analysis*! This is why I love Generation Tech

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1:05 I laughed so hard at that 😂

Actually in the Revenge of the Sith novel the Jedi was gathering intelligence and investigating a Sith Lord within the Senate when count Dooku told Obi-Wan of Darth Sidious. When Anakin told Mace of Palpatine being a Sith Lord that, fight with Darth Maul, and knowing that both Dooku and Ventres was associated with the Sith, yes they wasn't going to take any chances since they were sworn enemies.

Just saying, jedi visions have a habit of being accurate more times than not but i remember the quote "A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it. "

Alan Palpatine controlled the courts and the confederacy and he kept all his holo messages with dooku saved on his computer.

I think the Jedi Did more bad than good.

What was Palpatine guilty of? He literally murdered 3 jedi knights in front of Mace Windu as well as tried to kill Mace Windu. Windu wanted to arrest Palpatine to interrogate him... Palpatine answered by killing the jedi... Of course he had reasons to kill Palpatine... considering Palpatine has lightning powers... it is more of a reason to kill him.

For #3: technically revan and malak had already been turned to the dark side, but still fought for the republic against the mandalorians. Thats why they didn’t care about the massive republic casualties that would comw with the mass shadow generator. The jedi order demanded that they return to coruscant to be court martialed, but revan ignored them. So that wasn’t really the jedi who used the mass shadow generator

obi-wan did disarm the aggressor

Doesn't #2 sound a bit like the plot of Kung Fu Panda?

If I remember correctly, Toydarians like Watto are immune to Jedi mind control

Yoda treated the clones as individuals

Yo gt what's up!

Watching this video I`m looking at the Jedi in a different light now.

What was Palpatine guilty of? He seized control of the Republic Senate by orchestrating and facilitating the kidnapping of the Queen of Naboo by means of an illegal invasion. The invasion which led to the death of probably millions of people and kicked off a three year war with an illegal clone army that caused more death and destruction. And to top that he refused to give up the temporary special power granted to him once the war he created ended. He's a complete war criminal and the reality is the Sith were the enemies of the Republic and the Jedi which is why he hid his true identity.

How could anything be worse than that clip of yoda dancing. That in and of itself should be a war crime

generation tech: "in my opinion the Jedi are evil"

Great video the jedi have done a lot of bad. This is an awesome channel.

Hey love the music you are using around 6:35 is there a way I can liscent to it ? Do you have a link?

Love your parting message about viewing people as individuals. Needless to say, I subscribed.

What windu was gonna do was right palpitine was very very VERY dangerous

So is Luke right about ending the order?

I love that you used the roots for yoda lmao.

Also, 4:34 you had a dream about Leia kissing Chewbacca. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 I find that HILARIOUS.