10 Things I Was WRONG About in Lost Caverns of Ixalan 

And then it immediately gets petrified.

Ha I just did this and won 3 games as a direct result and wondered why I hadn't heard anyone talk about this combo yet. The second game my opponent even wasted a spell trying to destroy it after blocking it for more than enough damage, confused af.

I'd argue that a 5/4 flying vigilance is better

@@nikmidclayton5933 I'm sure it can be but there are times when indestructible is better. I'd argue that a 5/4 flying vigilant AND indestructible is better lol

Most of the people who say they wish games were longer and grindier also want both sides to have massive boards and have battles be like armies clashing instead of it mostly being an empty board with a hail of non-creature spells being exchanged or something like a control mirror where any creature spell that etbs almost immediately disappears due to spell effects.

etalis favour makes alot of sense tbh, normally auras are really bad, but this format doesn't really have staple removal other than abrade because 1 for 1 removal is so much weaker in this format

The way I see etalis favour is basically a reverse "role creature" from eldraine. You get a monster role upfront, then you get a random spell from the top. If you get a 2/3 mana creature it's really solid, but if you get a 1 mana spell or a card you don't want to cast (and add it to your hand) is not very good. Personally I think it's really inconsistent and I try not to play for the most part, but it's far from being terrible like it looks at first reading

I don’t think I saw a single content creator get Etali’s Favor right

a lot of these calls were very obvious to some of us who actually play the colours and styles that came up in this video . nizza's apparent need to keep his opinionation on-the-edge is always a dint to the quality of his calls and ability to understand the entirety of the state of the game before his hammer comes down .

zoetic glyph on the indestructible pick is game over for many color combinations

Funnily enough the deck can often even overwhelm in the early game too. You're almost guaranteed to win late, but if you draw a good glyph or your 1 drop flyers, it can be absolutely unstoppable early as well It's just so so strong

@@FishyFishy_ yes totally! A good UW draft feels legit busted. A powerful aggressive start into late game value powerhouse if they manage to survive.

dowsing is awesome but definitely an awkward aggro card because, as a 2 mana card that doesn’t impact the board, it can be a bit difficult to play it at the right time in a damage race

You were playing mono white boros splashing black for removal basically

@@irou95 more or less. A pair of sacrificial daggers each turned into a counter, waiting to draw a trample or fly trick

And Benicia del Toro didn't do much as an outlet

I had a killer sacrifice deck with Vito. Went 7-1

I pulled a few bw sacrifice decks that were really solid and the acolyte was easily the worst card in the deck

@TauntedSymbol exactly. It's only necessary if you have plenty of payoff but too few enablers.

@eduardofilippi7698 exactly. You're never happy playing it, but if you have to you can. I think it's a D

Really? I don't feel like I've been THAT wrong about things on the whole. But if you say so.

Same here, I drafted a couple of what I thought were fairly solid decks but have yet to break 3 wins on anything but, of all things, a relatively janky Rakdos midrange pile that I think I just got lucky with my matches on. I thought I had a great Dinos pile the other day, pulling multiple premiere removal spells (2 Abrade, 2 Huatli's Final Strike) alongside two of the signpost uncommon dino (which is REALLY good) but it unfortunately ended up 2-3.

also acolyte of aclatzotz was only funny in one of my decks where i g ot the 0/6 turtle hexproof guy

Do quick drafts. Bots aren't picking it up as highly.

@@MMalke rewards for bot draft are too low, with a 59% wr player drafts are more convenient

@@stefanoderosa9506 I thought you just wanted a chance to play the card

@@MMalke I will wait to first pick it from some pack

**Cries in Red/Green** It's good, just not the best like it should have been in this set.

Barely playable in commander imo

@@orian3638 If you are playing with the sweaty, tryhard metaslaves; then yes. If you have a decent group, it is fine.

Well, I don't want to mislead people on what "fast " means. In many formats fast means you don't have the ability to play a wide array of deck types. In this format, you definitely do. The non-aggro decks have enough tools.

@@NizzahonMagic format speed should only ever involve average turn count, not diversity of deck types. Turns played = speed. Diversity of archetypes is variance, not speed of the format.

​​@@nobodyshome6792 Sure, But the fact the midrange and control decks work though is why this format feels slower than a lot of recent formats where aggro decks were the only thing that worked. I've had more games get into stalled board states and go 10+ turns than I have in any format in a while because the non aggro decks can answer aggro threats and get into that midgame. Blue/White is one of the best decks in the format and it's winning on turn 6, 7, or 8. There are very powerful one drops, but often because they get the ball rolling on your long-term value generation, not because they're giving you turn 4 kills like the crackhead aggro in ONE for example. When aggro works out it kills you immediatly and keeps the average turn count low, but enough games run long that I think the data is failing to capture something.

The problem I've had with it is that there are too many better sac outlets and not enough sac fodder. Shoot, Map tokens are often better to just crack for a +1/+1 than it is to drain a life.

What? There's only 1 card with Craft with Vampire, and that's that card that also requires a Dino, a Pirate and a Merfolk.

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it's pretty objective data though, right? like if people are largely losing with a card, it follows that you largely shouldn't play that card-- if anything, the fact that you 7-0'd with the skulltaker twice probably speaks more to your own skill than the relative power level of the card.

Play agaisnt better people

So 17 lands is a database with many many players contributing info but hey this one guy went 7-0 twice so what do they know.

people on 17 lands also aren't playing against bronze players most of the time tbf

​@@theopreston8507 Not necessarily? Data is objective but that leads a lot of people to fall into the trap of "my conclusion is based on data, so it must be correct." When in fact there are many conflicting ways to interpret a set of data and most of them are probably incorrect to some extent. If a card has a low winrate on 17lands, that doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't play the card or that the card will always decrease your winrate if you run it over a card with a higher winrate on 17lands. A non-exhaustive list of other possible conclusions could be: - The majority of players do not understand how to play the card very well. - The current metagame features decks that tend to match up well against the card - The card is only good in certain types of decks that rarely come together, and the majority of decks in which the card is included are decks in which the card doesn't really get a chance to shine, bringing the overall winrate down.