Hi mate. Just an update since picking up my D90. The dealership were great. My car was surrounded by a velvet rope with a bow around it when we got there lol. We were given a bottle of wine as a gift. I was really happy that the car came with one year of rego paid. AND a full tank of diesel. There is no 1000km inspection. First one is 5000km. Which meant I could drive from Melbourne to Adelaide and back on the weekend. The car was actually beautiful. I love it. I understand that some people have difficulties with some of its quirks around the cruise control etc but it's completely manageable and to be honest over the sixteen hours I spent driving the car actually taught me to become a better and safer driver which i thought was interesting. I absolutely love it.
Mate, I suppose no one told you that it's a bad thing to run in a new engine by keeping the revs at a constant range. The running in should be done by driving gently and going up and down the revs until 1000k's. So city driving is best during the running in period. Cheers.
Great Review, Some things that i have discovered regarding the ECO and Stop Start. 1. Stop start has to be on by default as its part of the emissions requirements, i believe some cars (toyota supra) when put in sport mode it stops the auto stop start. 2. All the modes in MOST cars do is adjust the transmission mapping and throttle mapping to reduce how reactive the car is to throttle input, on the other end of the spectrum alot of people (Including myself) get throttle controllers that GREATLY improve the throttle response and plenty of other features such as valet mode and lock out mode. I Just put a deposit on a 2021 LDV D90 as im looking to move away from my abarth 124 into an SUV and thought its a good first SUV to get used to.
Yep, auto stop-start is on by default in my new Subaru as well... Why take a 2021 D90 in 2024? The price of a new one is the same as old and you'd get a much better vehicle overall? Just a thought... If you already put a deposit down, enjoy!
It's a diesel 4x4 and got it for 25k drive away checked over it and seems fine just need a larger car then my abarth 124 first step towards a larger vehicle I suppose and the depreciation hit would be something I'm not comfortable with given the new D90 is coming out anytime so this generation will cop another price hit at 25k drive away I feel there is enough room to allow for anything unexpected and won't loose too much value from here on out for the next 24 months. I work at a car yard where alot of manufacturers store their cars and we deliver them also (i seen more issues with mercedes benz vehicles and Jeep products then LDV) so i feel comfortable ebough to start off with this. Also awsome work with your videos!
That is just a beaut and honest review. Have had a t60 for about 3 years, great car, great value, but the info system is a pest. 😀😀😀 Super super review.!!
Hello from Portugal! In MG EHS if you press long the 'Home' button (4 or 5 seconds) the infosystem will turn off, and you don't have to always mute de radio. Next time you start the car, infosystem will be turned off. 🤙
Depends what you drive, but overall - how can you compare ride experience of an LDV Van or a massive D90 to an MG light "car"? It would be very very different and I'm sure you'd enjoy it! 🤷♀️
Great Video, I bought this SUV last year and love it. There is nothing wrong with it and just you mentioned in the vide - half the price of a fortuner and prado.
Thank you mate - I honestly wouldn't mind reviewing other cars, but it takes time and relationship with the dealers, which I kinda don't have as this channel is more of a hobby than an attempted job for me... But never say never! 😉👍
OK stop start is brake related, if you don't push hard enough on the brake as you stop, it will not turn the engine off, if it does turn off, just easing your foot of the brake for a moment will restart the engine and keep it going.
Good insight, thanks, but it doesn't cancel the annoyance of stop-start coming on by default and not staying OFF if I've turned it off once manually because I don't want it.
There is no warranty requirement to use manufacturers service centres, just use your local qualified mechanic. Far better to use your local bloke and support a local small business and build a lifetime relationship for yourself and the car. Forget the extended warranty, they are universally a rip off, doesn't matter which manufacturer. The dealers will tell you that you will hurt your trade in value which is bull. When we traded our A3 and it had only dealer serviced once in 5 years coz they were so damn expensive. On trade in it cost us $500, less than the difference for 1 service! A good local mechanic is like going to your GP, if you have a warranty claim then go to the dealer, the specialist. I really appreciate your videos and we gave serious consideration to the HS Phev. As an importer of Chinese heavy agricultural equipment we deal with all the quirks you mention and can handle all that. Our reason to not go ahead was different. With our imported equipment we can repair all issues with local inputs. We are very careful to avoid Chinese proprietary technology as we are then at their mercy to supply. This is the issue that concerns me with Chinese cars in general. They are now sophisticated electronic machines and entirely reliant on Chinese tech support. No problem at all now and I think the cars themselves are great value. BUT if politic conspire to limit interaction with China and Australia then owners might be in for a world of pain. Sure this is a remote possibility but a point which should be considered. So what did we get instead of the HS? A bog standard Lexus UX200. Certainly smaller, which is of no consequence to us, and only slightly more expensive than the HS Phev. The big difference to MG is that the Lexus is just a pimped up Toyota so anyone can fix it and the parts are everywhere. I still have a soft spot for Chinese cars as a bridge to our friends over there whom I doubt we will be able to visit for years unfortunately. I would make the point that middle to upper value Chinese business people poo poo all Chinese cars because their opinion is they are built to only last 5 years due to the draconian roadworthy regs in China. This is probably overly harsh but I must admit that whilst in China you don't see many old Chinese cars but there are heaps of old Hyundais especially. Keep up the great work and good luck with LDV, they are a honest, solid vehicle.
Thanks so much for your generous and thoughtful writeup, Darron, lots of information here to unpack mate! :) I obviously am not familiar with particulars of dealing with Chinese imports and all that, and so far enjoying immense value for money that both MG HS and this LDV D90 seems to offer... Great suggestion about using local mechanic, but wouldn't that void their LDV warranty? For some stupid reason I thought that I have to service with them (at least for the first 3 years) to keep the LDV warranty intact? Is that not the case?
@@ValueCarsAU As long as your vehicle is serviced by the book by a qualified mechanic (here in Vic that is a VACC member, NSW will have a similar association) your statutory warranty is covered. The hokey extended warranty will require you to service with LDV. Best thing to do is to throw that extended warranty in the bin and get on with life. All extended warranties are designed to make dealers money in the long run. One valuable advantage of using an independent mechanic is that he will spot warranty issues for you to bring up with the dealer that you might miss. Plus he will bring them up where a dealer may "forget" to point them out. Lexus brag about their superior customer service and how they will pick up your car and leave a LC500 or like when you need a service. I don't care about any of that, the car will be going to the same local mechanic we have used on multiple cars for the last 15 years.
@@darroncrick9993 Ok thanks mate, I need to research what my "local mechanic" might be then, no idea at the moment as I've always been one of those dumb people going to the dealer they got the car from... 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@darroncrick9993 indeed. I will only use RACV accredited Mechanics, because they have to actually earn that title and prove they are the best and fairest.
In general you are covered under Australian Consumer Law (ACL) regardless of the time and distance the manufacturer purports to be providing. For a new motor vehicle this would be substantially longer than 3 years (or even 5 years that is advertised in 2023). You would have to fight for this and you may need to be prepared to engage a lawyer (if the repair is a costly enough). One of my biggest concerns with buying LDV in Australia is the support you are likely to get from Ateco, who have a well-deserved reputation for failing to comply with ACL. Refer to the 2021 judgement against LDV in the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal : Rigby v LDV Automotive Pty Ltd - [2021] QCAT 316 In this case LDV refused to comply with ACL where a new T60 was purchased and rusted out in short time. The purchaser forced LDV to refund the original price of the motor vehicle which is a remedy provided for under ACL for all consumer items. Even motor vehicles if they are not fit for purchase, have a major fault or a series of minor faults that together constitute a major fault.
Thank you for the insights and yes I heard about the "legal cover, but needing to fight for it" which was one of the reasons why I decided to not keep my D90 long-term and swapped to Haval H6.
I didn’t hear how you were able to get the horn to stop when you lock the car, i’ve just purchased one of the last LDV G10 9 seater vans and I couldn’t agree more with some of the pain points you’ve identified- The fact that the radio just starts blaring at whatever volume it decides whenever the cars turned on is frustrating.
Yeah some things are just plain stupid and are purely bad design rather than "too hard to implement". How do you find transmission when you just let it roll downhill? I find it annoying as the revs climb up but the 6 speed auto just refuses to switch the gears, it seems? Takes ages for it to realise it doesn't need to rev up the engine so much - shits me!
At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Toyota Prado, Fortuner no doubt costs double +. But they're generally a life long vehicles with proven reliability, and service quality, much more then you can ever say about LDV's currently.
No disagreement here. Problems with that are multiple though, with 2 key ones - 1. Availability of Prado when you need one tomorrow, and 2. Much much higher purchase price. It might be a life long investment - provided, you want to drive the same car for 10+ years? I don't. - but many people simply don't have the money and time to buy into this "club". That's where cheaper brands come in with all their fair shortfalls, no matter how annoying those are.
I went to one of the only two LDV dealers in Adelaide SA today. Very impressed with the car build quality. Of course Android auto didn't work. My biggest concern is the warranty. From the brochure, it says 5 year/130,000km warranty. It isn't 6 years (3 + 3) you mentioned in the video. Do you think it has changed since? (from 3 years factory warranty to 5 years)
I don't know Jason, and I started suspecting that my local dealer tried to BS me with the 3+3 years story, trying to sell me extra cover. Not sure mate, maybe something changed, but I'd always trust the latest and local information you receive rather than something that might be NSW related specifically, or simply outdated by now? 🤷♂️
Hey mate, check out Rad Road Adventures channel - Shannon is in NZ and he has a 4WD Diesel version of D90, so he'd be the best person to advise on towing! 😊
Hopefully someone will reply, as I've no idea, my car is only just a bit over 3000 kms and next service is at 5k. Pop in back mate and let me know how it goes for you - I'd like to hear what the service department tells you and if it costs you anything to fix it?
Hi mate - i really enjoy your reviews. I went through them before committing to buy a D90 and after. I also agree with the annoying auto stop-start system being a default setting - I have to remind myself to switch off each time I drive. I had them add a darker tint than the standard privacy tint. After talking to a few other D90 owners in the past few weeks (join a FB group), there does seem to be a big variety in terms of customer service approach by LDV dealers. Some D90 owners are very happy with the dealer, while others seem to have a different approach (rip you off)...so look around at different LDV dealers by checking some reviews/feedback. Get your RACV roadside assist - don't rely on the LDV roadside offer - the reviews on this are terrible (waiting many hours for help), plus many restrictions.
Thanks again mate, always better "compare the notes" and share our - private owner - experiences! 👍 I'm about to have my first 1000 kms service next week, will report my impressions (and compare it to MG one!) after
Why would I think that? It's a great car and top of the range would be even better. Although I can't vouch for the top-end quality as I haven't driven or inspected one myself.
@@ValueCarsAU I have also ordered the executive diesel and test drove it for the first time on Saturday. To be honest I absolutely loved it. BUT when i picked it up to test drive it was filthy. inside and out. I was told this is how it arrives from china. it looked like a team of muddy footy players had inhabited it for a week while four wheel driving around the same muddy football pitch. disappointing. Also Dimitri you mentioned the floor mats, there where no floor mats in mine either! When i asked about it they told me the top of the range model doesnt come with floor mats..... Sorry did i hear you correctly sir?? So these things kind of put a little rain on my sunshine in regards to the car. Which is a shame because it was a dream to drive. Im going to really grill the sales team over the details including the warranty before signing any contracts thats for sure. Because I would really love to buy this car. Its just stating to feel riskier and riskier
I've had my D90 Diesel since last week. I'm really enjoying it so far - only done a few hundred kms so far. The infotainment system (the most common complaint I've seen) for my vehicle works relatively well, although it is not a great system - it does work ok. I'm really happy with the engine power and ride comfort, although the pedal lag is noticeable (that's normal for most auto diesels - not an LDV issue - its the first auto diesel i've owned). Some of the features aren't as great as other makers so you either live with it or just switch them off - which is what I did. Make sure you read the manual to learn how to adjust the settings.
Great you didn't pay for extended warranty. This video explains why you are covered anyway: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hrHE1SZL3wk.html
You really need to check you're facts before making comment on anything ,I do respect that you state " to the best of you're knowledge " but in this day and age there is no excuse for not having true facts.
Not helpful, unfortunately. What "facts" have I missed when sharing my own experience? I feel how I feel about my cars and share these facts at face value. At least you noticed my disclaimers, but somehow still ignored them. Thanks for watching, I guess.
Hi, How's your D90 going now? I got me a new D90 exec 4x4 petrol last week, I'm in the process of running it in now. I bought an oil filter and oil for it and plan to change it at 1000k's. No one could explain why SAIC sets the first oil change at 5000'ks, as it's a bad thing to drive around with oil contaminated with metal filings from the running in process.
