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10 Things You’ve Always Wanted to Know About Grand Seiko, But Were Too Afraid to Ask …
I’m sure everyone reading this has, at some point, felt that feeling of utter bewilderment of being in a conversation about watches with Grand Seiko being no exception. The level of technical jargon, slang and verbal shorthand can be confusing at best and exclusionary at worst - it can feel like a club with its very own secret language. And the hardest thing is that the language changes with every brand. Take Grand Seiko, for instance - you have to get your head around reference numbers, specific nomenclature and calibres, not to mention the vast and colourful world of fan-based nicknames.
But don’t worry, today we’re here to help you crack the code. If you’ve ever been confused about what makes Grand Seiko so grand, why everyone keeps talking about Snowflakes and Spring Drives, or what a Credor is, watch this and all will be explained …
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@trevbarlow9719 5 лет назад

Anyone else think that many Rolex guys who dismiss the spring drive would be praising it if Rolex invented it?

@jeffdj1975 2 года назад

100% Rolex guy’s are intimidated by GS. You see it in their comments, they don’t make sense.

@latenttweet Год назад

It’s the same bs as people bragging about their football team is better than yours. Unless you are on the team you have no right to brag about it. Unless you helped design a Lexus you can’t say it’s better than another car because you just simply bought it. Where is the skill in that. Anyone can buy anything

@greenbow7888 Год назад

Sadly the whole Rolex thing gets up my nose. There is barely a watch in their collection that I even like. The new coloured Prepetual I think they are, are nicely made with great colours. Then they ruined it by putting that stupid jester hat in place of the 12 o'clock hour marker. ... The datejust is OK too. The rest of Rolex is overopulence for the sake of charging a fortune.

@hewster1 Год назад

yup. I have a daytona and a gmt master.... but my GS cherry blossom gets more wrist time simply because I love the movement and dial. I always have peopel asking me why I don't wear the rolex' since they are "superior"... it's so weird.

@sergeyberlin3264 5 лет назад

The Grand Seiko has a very Japanese character. Calm, reserved, unpretentious, tidy, reliable. Grand Seiko underpromises and overdelivers. Spring Drive for the win!!!)))

@dlhussain81 5 лет назад

Sergey Berlin gotta love seiko at all price points, they underpromise and over deliver from $50 to $50,000!

@MrVoayer 6 лет назад

Now that you explained the terminology and some fundamental traits and features of Grand Seiko, take your camera and walk us through Seiko Butique in Melbourne !

@elliottaxinn7132 5 лет назад

I agree with Throwmeabone. Spring Drive is really something special. If you want a quartz level of accuracy, but you don't want a quartz watch, Spring Drive is your only option. I respect a well-made automatic, but that is arguably old technology. The most accurate Swiss automatic watch that I know of, Rolex, doesn't have a movement that even comes close to Spring Drive in regards to accuracy. I would also say that no watch company can compare with GS's dials, and the detailed attention devoted to GS's hands, markers, and case is unparalleled.

@thelonious-dx9vi 4 года назад

Mmmm. I am on that exact fence right now. I know spring drive *is* a mechanical movement, hand-built with soul and all that. Respect. But I'm still drawn to fully mechanical. If the SBGA413 "Spring", with the pink dial, were an automatic, I'd just be all over that.

@greenbow7888 Год назад

Aren't superlative chronometers accurate to -1 to +1 sec per day?

@chrisnelson1712 6 лет назад

Helpful video, but you forgot SBGR. In my mind, you have to handle a Grand Seiko to appreciate them. I find them pretty boring in pictures, but recently tried a silver dial SBGR299 and it dances under light like you can’t believe. And the weight of the case and bracelet are perfect. And the blue second hand...I’m definitely adding one to the collection.

@ChocoIatx2 6 лет назад

Great video! Truly explained a lot of questions I never had the courage or thought to ask. Thanks Felix!

@PhatNutz 6 лет назад

i secretly love GS, just can't pull the trigger on actually buying one. this is cool and should be done with other companies. thx felix! 👍

@greenbow7888 Год назад

Whichever way it goes, you should follow your instincts.

@Slanovich 6 лет назад

Good video but your explanation of Spring Drive really did not do it justice

@jaaphoogendijk671 4 года назад

He literally said that they made a video on it, so he kept it extremely summed up.

@greenbow7888 Год назад

5:12 I love that strap, and how the watch looks.

@huss1205 6 лет назад

Would love to have GS one day. My friends live in Tokyo, will start saving money for that purchase when I visit the buddies....

@mooiverhaal7850 5 лет назад

Good luck on your journey buddy. Saving here myself. Long way to go!

@brandonchang6047 4 года назад

That would be awesome to video that purchase! Make sure you shoot and post it

@thelonious-dx9vi 4 года назад

Cheers. Personally speaking, the GS aesthetic really hits the mark for me, and I'm presently close to pulling the trigger. While I now know most of the info you provided, it took me a lot longer to piece it together than it took to watch this video, which is very useful and I wish I'd come across it sooner. Highly recommended.

@johndang8971 3 года назад

I just got my spring drive and it is stunning

@russelllange2037 6 лет назад

I would love to know about Credor's history prior to brand repositioning, the good the bad and the ugly. Also it would be neat to get a sneak peak to see what they have planned for the future.

@levedia 5 лет назад

Credor is a sick watch you compare that with Patek.

@FatSamEIE 5 лет назад

You can get older credors for crazy cheap prices on the pre owned market. They make some absolutely hideous watches too in my opinion. A few beautiful new ones out their but for me, 95% of the credors I've seen are as ugly as crocs on a man.

@benghazi4216 2 года назад

@@FatSamEIE But a Credor will be the cheapest Philippe Dufour you can find, or be able to buy even if you had the money...

@MentorKurshumliu Год назад

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@melchizedekpsj 6 лет назад

I love Grand Seiko very much!

@tranquocquy_os9414 4 года назад

I really love the Grand Seiko spring drive blue dial.

@jonywalabi2647 6 лет назад

you are amazing at explaining, i enjoy hearing you so much, amazing

@jacc88888 5 лет назад

Superbly explained!

@WatchAddictionReviews 6 лет назад

time and tideee the australian watch authoritaaay

@MrAristaeus 6 лет назад

Watch Addiction Watch Reviews they really need to lose that intro. “IN A WORLD...”

@thegorn 5 лет назад

@@MrAristaeus “IN A WORLD...” ..where watch reviewers battle weight problems...and shirt buttons can barely survive...

@dlhussain81 5 лет назад

Watch Addiction Watch Reviews *Austrayan!

@SirStamford27 5 лет назад

Great video, everyone with an interest in watches should see this. Also love that Sofa.

@arthurwhwong 5 лет назад

Thank you, love your videos!

@Kpucin0 6 месяцев назад

R is for Automatic Date Watch

@david111davies 4 года назад

Just get the quartz 9F. Its fantastic in its own right and much cheaper to own and run it. Oh and so accurate, + - 10 sec a year is a conservative estimate, seen one lose 1 second in 7 months

@greenbow7888 Год назад

Grand Seiko make a quartz watch that is accurate to one second a year.

@syedhussain6031 5 лет назад

Love Grand Seiko snowflake, real beauty.😘

@kunjikorans 5 лет назад

Grand Seikos r easily one of the most beautiful watches.... I wish i had the money to buy them

@shipmate3577 6 лет назад

Would like to hear a comparison between GS Spring Drive and GS High Beat. Specifically, maintenance/serviceability and longevity. I agree, Seiko/GS need to assign "NAMES" to their watches; it would help sales.

@fiatjustitiaruatclum7557 6 лет назад

Outback Dave sources?

@alex_inside 6 лет назад

Fiat justitia ruat cælum The spring drive from an engineering standpoint should be nearly indestructible. No balance wheel which could break less friction in the system and the quartz components are assembly similar to there GS quartz watches which are pretty bullet prove. So 20 years without an service isn't that unrealistic.

@debendragurung3033 6 лет назад

When you want a GS, I would recommend always get the Spring Drive. It's the unique movement which defines Seiko. If you want a mechanical watch- there are plentiful others, And you obviously don't want a luxury battery powered Quartz. But if you want a quartz - that is not battery powered but powered by your wrist, behold the one and only Spring Drive. There aren't any othet brand who does this. And GrandSeiko not only does it but have perfected it. It's really an art - since it is not battery powered and rather powered by the main spring, the tolerance of voltage, capacitance and current are in absolute low threshold, probably at mcroAmpere and microFarad range(I don't exactly know since Seiko don't publish it). Its tolerance are so damn critically controlled that it is the king of any digital chips. It's truly an art that marries the traditional matchmaking with the modern timekeeping oscillators that revolutionized the last century. If you want a Grand Seiko , get one Spring Drive for sure and then think about others.....

@arapaimagold8088 5 лет назад

They cost about the same money for maintenance. The problem is, not all country has certified watchmaker for servicing Springdrive. So you must shipped the watch back to Japan. Which is better, because case polishing already included in service package. And the best man for the job are no other than the Japanese itself.

@CrimFerret 5 лет назад

@@debendragurung3033 The spring drive movement is mechanical movement that uses a quartz oscillator curcuit to regulate the speed of the drive gear that's being turned by the power from the mainspring through magnetic braking. It works nothing like a regular quartz watch. The spring drive module basically replaces the hairspring escapement on a more traditional mechanical watch. Aside from the neat sweep seconds hand, it also means watches that use it are extramely resistant to shock and magnetic fields. They are mechanical watches though. As you mentioned, the amount of electrical energy that makes the system work is incredibly small and part of the reason it took two decades of R&D.

@kelvinwong1591 3 года назад

Would love to own the Grand Seiko seen over at 4:35 in the vid. It is incredibly beautiful, but I guess I'll have to settle with Rolex my dad passed down to me for now. As a fan of Rolex and Omega, GS do make better watches but they have lower brand equity.

@maignanmclopez345 6 лет назад

Seiko did a great job , nice watch

@soulure 3 года назад

Missed opportunity showing so many non-wound watches. Would have been nice to see the second hand movement.

@syedaqae4569 3 года назад

GS is more than swiss

@clipdrift 6 лет назад

make a video about credor!

@levedia 5 лет назад

Can someone explain me whats the difference with a high beat.

@rezamotori5709 2 года назад

please do a video on archie luxury (paul pluta).

@trubadyr99 6 лет назад

I think that there is a whole lot of hype with almost any expensive watch. A watch doesn't have to be that costly to be super-precise and beautiful.

@ImDembe 6 лет назад

It dosn't so just buy any quartz then...people buy it for the brand, craftmanship etc.

@trubadyr99 6 лет назад

Vanity...

@arapaimagold8088 5 лет назад

There’s a rep for a fraction money of the genuine article. Looks at least 90% similar.

@DarkPa1adin 3 года назад

finally know what the reference letters are! sbg_

@YeoEngLoong 4 года назад

Turn on the subtitles. Another word that you will hear a lot in grand Seiko circles is “rat soup”

@rajgill7576 4 года назад

Hahahah shush thats for the inner circles to know only!!

@walterking5453 2 года назад

You done a great job it was a terrible shame about her silly music

@paullynch4021 6 лет назад

I love my Grand Seiko but it's up for sale on eBay. It's a limited edition SBGV027 with an amazing, rare red dial. I'll be sorry to part with it.

@alextao3774 4 года назад

ref# for the watch at 2:13 anyone? thanks in advance

@miin108 4 года назад

SBGR311

@philipyang3331 5 лет назад

The Snowflake is too light for my liking. Prefer a watch with some heft.

@fattpandaaa 6 лет назад

In your experience, how is the Snowflake’s mirror polished bezel holding up to scratches?

@Chris-oz9qx 6 лет назад

FatPanda I have the SBGA 001G. Far less scratches than my Rolex Milgauss has. The snowflake is titanium though so may well scratch more.

@johnsim2559 5 лет назад

Snowflake my new grail

@oceansbluee 4 года назад

Seiko 5 Legendery watch

@RobS____ 6 лет назад

Grand Seiko make beautiful watches. Their bracelets? Absolute rubbish.

@alex_inside 6 лет назад

Thats kinda what you have expect from Seiko great movements, great quality, great watches but not so good bracelets.

@FatSamEIE 5 лет назад

I think I could agree that a lot of their bracelets are not at the same standards of their watches but I would not call them absolute rubbish. I can't think of a GS bracelet that's worse than a pre2000s Rolex bracelet.

@asura2545 6 лет назад

I love the snowflake!

@jeffdj1975 2 года назад

Grand Seiko is the Rolex killer.

@aymanalij 6 лет назад

so high level of finishing ha?

@arturgarncarz3631 5 лет назад

Spring Drive is more superb then any swiss made mechanizm.

@Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад

PP would beg to differ.

@arturgarncarz3631 3 года назад

@@Jabber-ig3iw really? What did they do recently?

@Rabauke4u 2 года назад

The background music ruins it.

@zackpointer5091 5 лет назад

Grand Seiko 9s85 accuracy is actually worse than Rolex’s superlative chronometer at +2/-2 per day. However we must understand that this iteration of the GS movement (9s) was introduced back in 1998. I suspect the next iteration of GS movement will have free sprung balance wheel with eccentric adjustable nodes. I own both GS and Rolex and I’m sorry, apart from the dial the Rolex is better in all other areas especially the bracelet. AFAIK the next generation of GS mech movement is in developement phase so I suggest you guys not to put the trigger too soon

@Arkheon59 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yfhhxC1VHDA.html whats the model ?

@Arkheon59 3 года назад

SBGV238 found it :D

@jeffdj1975 2 года назад

Rolex now, goes off hype. Grand Seiko has always gone off innovation and quality.

@gianpakasa 6 лет назад

And the Baby gran Seiko?

@primozkorenc2474 6 лет назад

Which one do you mean, Sarx055 or Sarb033?

@gianpakasa 6 лет назад

Primoz Korenc I don't know. That's why I am asking. Thanks

@davec3651 6 лет назад

A stupid fan-made nickname to try to bring higher interest to watches that are not Grand Seiko, but are still really nice watches at their much lower price point.

@alex_inside 6 лет назад

Dave C Not such a stupid name, it kinda fits the look.

@DarkPa1adin 3 года назад

it is called baby snowflake

@ahmedhishamdr8485 6 лет назад

Nice watch...but I wouldn't buy it with my own money... !

@alex_inside 6 лет назад

Ahmed Attar If I had the money it would be hard to decide between the Omega Speedmaster Apollo-Soyuz or the SBGA229.

@NobleSteed00 5 лет назад

Pointless video. Nobody was ever afraid to ask any of the things you talked about.

@sbsb4995 5 лет назад

Spring drive is the most pointless technology. For what? Might as well use a Quartz's movement and sell cheaper. Grand Seiko, just like Rolex, stupid brands that are over hyped and over priced.😞

@stefanfreestylez 4 года назад

And how far down the rabbit whole do you want to fo with what is overpriced and pointless? Have a ftiend with quite the collection. To name a few heavy hitters like iwc protugieser grande complication, lange zietwerk and a crap ton of other spectacular pieces. Looking at these up close i really dont see why theyre priced the way they are. Talk about pointless...you can just buy apple watch that is alot more accurate no? Youre totally missing the point if you think spring drive is pointless. Take your depressing ass elsewhere my man. Dont need guys like you around talking this hatred for no justifiable reason.

@stefanfreestylez 4 года назад

Rolex btw i do agree they are overhyped and overpriced. Still they make good watches cant hate on that bit. But they could def use a price adjustment.

@asmuslaustsen6762 3 года назад

You dont have a battery so you dont need to change it and it cant end up ruining your movement, also you get some of the charm from a automatic with some of the upsides from a quarts. Furthermore its some cool tech and the sweep of the second hand is appealing. And they do have many of their models for cheaper with quartsz so your choice. I agree that wathces might be overpriced and to some extend stupid but i still think you get more bang for your buck from GS over Rolex.

@tomasinacovell4293 5 лет назад

Non! Seiko and Grand Seiko are the same brand i.e. "corporation" but different lines, saying anything else is just ludicrous. The SEIKO "5"'s are the best thing before GS because they're not as ugly looking as Seiko mid-tiers.

@elliottaxinn7132 5 лет назад

I agree. If you want the best value in a mechanical, lower end watch, get a Seiko 5. If you want the best value in a high-end watch, get a GS Spring Drive.

@tomasinacovell4293 5 лет назад

@@elliottaxinn7132: I'd go with their best mechanical and automatics before I'd go with the SD's, but that is also because I resent the fact that they pulled their smooth moving quartz movements and that I don't see a SD's as GS, and that they're far overpriced, like a tourbillon etc. It's ludicrous for Seiko to make any sort of quartz piece and especially the SD as a GS considering just how SEIKO is so overly paranoid about their image. Seiko could really benefit from psycho analysis or something? LOL

@FatSamEIE 5 лет назад

Separate brands under the same umbrella. Seiko 5s are cheap and not great unless you are on a crazy low budget. Seiko sarb and seiko divers from the prospex range are amazing value and still relatively cheap- but much Much better than any seiko 5(including the skx)

@FatSamEIE 5 лет назад

@@tomasinacovell4293 you can get good automatics from various brands at good value and bad value but nobody else can make a springdrive, it's amazing technology, finishing and accuracy so not sure why you think it's overpriced? You can get a GS spring Drive for $2500 new if you look around- for me that's incredible good value and a great watch

@tomasinacovell4293 5 лет назад

@@FatSamEIE You're not even listening, shut your fucking mouth! ):

@jharris947 6 лет назад

I know they're well made and have lovely dials but they all look the bloody same to me whether they're £100 or £5,000. Bit bland and boring looking. All the hundreds of different style watches that SEIKO make give Grand Seiko a bad name.

@PhiNguyen-vg2zo 6 лет назад

jharris947 did you watch the video..? Lol how can you begin to say that look the same when you take a very general comparison to other brands of the 5k-10k calibre? Complete variety of models, colours are outrageously diverse too.. variety would be the least critical point of GS's.

@mrk131324 6 лет назад

That perception changes once you wear one.

@jharris947 6 лет назад

Of course I watched the video. Or was that a rhetorical question? Recently I wanted to buy another watch and decided to have a look at SEIKO. I looked at SARB/SARX/SARY/SARG/GS. That was when I realised that, to me, they all looked similar (not talking about diver's watches) and a bit bland looking. I couldn't see anything special about any them that would make me want to own a SEIKO. Sorry, but there was no WOW! factor for me. 0:41 Take away the power reserve indicator and it looks like a SARB035, which cost £300. I know it's got a better dial, I know it's got a better bracelet and I know it's got a better movement BUT it still (to me) looks like a SARB035. And I'm not a watch novice. I have vintage and modern Omega, Rolex and Longines, plus others.

@SirPhillyLeong 6 лет назад

By your theory. I should just buy a fake Rolex because it looks the same. I mean it's just like the real thing except it has a different movement, better dial and better bracelet. I get the impression your the type of person who buys a watch to impress others and to name drop.

@simoncirkel6348 6 лет назад

Phillip Leong good point

@sbsb4995 6 лет назад

Grand Seiko is over hyped and over priced. It is a stupid brand.

@idiotstupidboy 6 лет назад

Sb Sb u mean a Rolex?

@trubadyr99 6 лет назад

I agree: as well as almost any so-called "premium" watch. I think that there is a whole lot of hype with almost any expensive watch. A watch doesn't have to be that costly to be super-precise and beautiful.

@alex_inside 6 лет назад

Over priced? Their watches which go against some Rolex models are less expensive better made and the movement is just so far ahead of it. And GS really isn't over hyped, but Rolex and etc. For sure are.

@russelllange2037 6 лет назад

I would like to see GS release thinner movements inside thinner watches. In general I find their current collection too bulky. Also the GS clasps are okay, but far behind the competition, most would like better than okay at this price. Other than that, the case finishing, the dials and hand sets, the quality of movements, the craftsmanship is well above the price point.