@blackkey1976 lol yes it was fine when there was no diversity and white's were getting all the roles but now that other race's are getting chance's it's outrageous.......what kind of logic is that.
@blackkey1976 are u telling a black actor is chosen just because he is black? That's more crazy logic. Over the countless movies made since Hollywood began with only white's in the movies ur now making it like it some reverse racism going on because blacks and other minorities are starting to get more roles. What's the saying..... equality feel's like oppression to those in power. You had no problem with all whites and you seem to think them being white had nothing to do with why they got the job (especially over a minority but I bet you think the white was just a better actor) but when you see black's in part you immediately think they got the part because they are black. That's logic makes no sense especially when you know the history of old Hollywood and what black's had to do just to get recognized.
I think it's about time the Academy put Tron into the special effects Hall Of Fame, in recognition of how groundbreaking the use of CGI in a feature film was, what an incredible example of an emerging artform Tron was and in explicit recognition of it having been banned from teh awards when it was a new release.
There were TWO arcade games based on Tron. The multi-game Tron (several minigames), and the singular game Discs of Tron. That one featured a game based loosely on the battles and the bouncing ball game that they had to hit the other player's platform. You'd jump between platforms, aim the disc, and fling it at the enemy, hoping to knock him off his platform. Great game for its time.
I love Tron. I remember when I was much younger and being enthralled with the animation and the effects. To this day I still watch it with the same wonder.
Wendy / Walter Carlos (changed in the middle of filming Tron) was actually an early innovator in MIDI and utilized tons of new computer technology in creating the soundtrack to Tron. Her work was revolutionary for its day and helped pave the way for the synthesizer integration with computers and the 80's synth wave.
Wendy Carlos transitioned in the late 1960s/early 70s, and while she did continue to record albums as "Walter Carlos" for several years afterwards she came out publicly as transgender in a Playboy interview in 1979. Tron was released in 1982. You may be thinking of the middle of filming "The Shining," which would be closer to that timeframe.
Re: Pacman cameo Mind blown. Childhood favourite. Finding this out 30years later. I watch it at least twice a year. Was so happy with the sequel. Need number 3
Tron, ET, Star Trek 2, Poltergeist, Blade Runner all coming out the same year, what a great year to be a kid. I spent my allowance watching these movies over and over.
Got a tear in my eye toward the end of this video when I saw all those films listed. That was a hell of a year all those movies were so original. That is some real cinema, though I became more of a sci-fi fan I see now why.
I believe that was done as a nod to the movie and Captain Marvel applying a red and gold colour to her uniform was a nod to the Dark Phoenix storyline in X-Men.
I was in college at the time Tron came out, so it really struck a chord with me. The notion that a person’s computer programs were literally a virtual replication of the person was an interesting concept at the time. Given the set up with the characters in the real world and Flynn’s interactions with the programs there are a number of scenes (such as the scene where Flynn gives Yori a kiss) can get somewhat Freudian.
There's also a reference to the 1951 film The Day the Earth Stood Still, which was also used in Evil Dead. There's a cubicle in the Enron building with "Klaatu Barada Nikto" pinned to the wall.
#11: If you were a bedroom coder back in the 80's, you would have probably been familiar with the 'TRON' and 'TROFF' commands. 'TRON' stood for 'TRaceON' and 'TROFF' stood for 'TRaceOFF'. Basically, you'd run those commands so that you could trace or step through your program and find any bugs or issues that you might not catch if the program was running in a normal execution state. The cool thing about the choice of the name 'Tron' was that Tron was sort of the security program, making sure that the other programs were behaving as expected and not interfering with each other, so not only was the name cool, it also had some meaning in the programming world.
@@KuddlKat Shoot. Well, there goes my personal pet theory of 30+ years. :D I guess I should have made it more clear that it was my own interpretation of the name and the similarities just seemed a little too uncanny to be coincidence.
@raydeen2k Good ol' BASIC. I'm pretty sure that was the first computer language learned by any kid trying to lean coding in the early '80s. I used to pump out "if/then", "elseif/else" and "goto" statements by the thousands on our Commodore 64 back in the day. Yes, I've always been a geek
I was twelve when Tron came out, and it was a favorite for me. I have always loved the film, and yes, discovered deeper meanings when I got older. It still holds up as a great film!
Yes, Tron is indeed a masterpiece. There is something timeless and indescribable captured in this film. In some ways it makes 1982 seem more cutting edge than current time. And Tron legacy, albeit to a lesser extent, is similarly successful. I’m looking forward to watching this again.
Tron vs E.T. vs Poltergeist vs Blade Runner vs The Thing I swear movies in the early 1980's had the bar set so high. Imagine walking in a theater and seeing that lineup.
Wastingsometimehere true, that’s like an entire year of films in 2019 where we now have to wait 2 weeks after every mediocre Disneybuster to get new films out.
That's because back in the day. Disney and all those other movie craters cared about the fans and what the fans wanted to see. Now in 2020 Disney only makes movies with a woke message in it. And if you don't like it. That can only mean you are a racist or a sexist.
@Hey McFly I remember when the licensed products came out for Return of the Jedi. Watching the movie was only part of the fun. You could shortly afterwards buy the cool toys, games, and collectibles like Burger King drinking glasses with Star Wars artwork on it. We got some at the Old National Highway location near Atlanta and I remember I dropped and broke mine when we were going to the car. :( Oh, memories!
Actually, the two Journey songs were "Only Solutions" and "1990's Theme." "Separate Ways" made an appearance in Tron Legacy. I absolutely LOVED this movie when it first came out. When I see it today, I can see its flaws, but it's still a favorite, and it still looks STUNNING. (And Wendy Carlos' score is still fantastic.)
I loved Tron when it first came out , and still do. I would say I wore out at least two VHS tapes of the movie. I just turned 60yr's old and would watch it again.
I got my 2 year old daughter hooked on watching the DVD with me. She was bored with the live action but got stuck to the screen once they went into the computer. This was back in 2014.
Tron is one of my most favorite movies of all time. Plus it was made around the time where Disney actually tried to make original movies rather than unneeded remakes and killing beloved franchises.
I feel for all you kids that will never know what the eighties were like. You guys will never experience the pride and joy of being American. It was the best 10 years in American history.
TRON - one of my most favorite movies ever!!! The creators of the film knew there's no problems, only solutions ;) it's incredibly laughable the film did NOT get a Oscar Nomination because the academy claimed the filmmakers cheated by using computers.The MPA does not compute.
I'm 53 & was apart of the arcade revolution & the excitement when a new game was introduced. There'd be lines of kids waiting to have a go, it was a good time to be a kid. Tron, Bladerunner & Big Trouble in little China are my go to movies on rainy days.
have you ever played Discs of Tron? Although I love the Tron arcade game, I preferred Discs. Very rare back in the day, so imagine how hard it is to find today. luckily the ROMs are out there.
I guess I'm one of the few that actually saw this movie in the theater. I was 7 at the time. It was awesome! I remember that when I came out everything looked red and blue for a while, kinda felt like I was in a game:) Thanks for doing this video.
@@yoda908 I actually kind of like that if there is a 3rd movie, that it will be after another long gap. There was 28 years between the first and 2nd...if the 3rd film came out like 3-5 years after the 2nd it would feel a bit weird. I like the idea of 12+ years between the 2nd and 3rd. Because then...the "trilogy" could each represent a different era/aesthetic of cinema.
I remember first seeing this when it premiered on the Disney Channel around 1984. Our family turned out the lights and watched it on your 19 inch TV! I was an instant fan!
That would actually be Monday, April 18, 1983, which was also the day of the television debut of the Disney Channel. I remember seeing the preview before it aired and asked my parents if I could stay up and watch it (I was nine years old and it was a school night). Thankfully they said yes!
I'm a supervisor at a nuclear power plant. I started watching these videos a week ago, haven't been to work since. We had a meltdown, I had to turn my ringer off. Keep it up, Minty!
Sucks that Disney won't green light the sequel to Tron Legacy. Legacy did more than respectable (box office) especially considering how long ago the original hit. Disney won't pay attention to anything but Star wars and live action remakes...
I would like to see TRON characters escaping to the real world; avatars of the real world infiltrating the Grid; most of all, the GRID villians (and "good guys") infiltrating the Internet!
I loved the movie . I saw it opening day with my dad. My Christmas present was the light cycle toys along with all action figures. Omg I miss this time period. Growing up as a kid in the eighties can never be replicated. You’d have to live in the period to understand what I mean.
I didn't realize 1982 was such a massive year for movies. More fantastic films were released just in that summer than in the entire last ten years. Moviemaking has truly fallen off a cliff.
The effects in Tron Legacy were very polished, but Tron (1982) is still my favourite of the two, and one of my favourite 80's movies overall. Cindy Morgan was then, and still is, a gorgeous lady.
@8:15: I actually found one of these in the basement of a ski resort in Colorado back in 1990. I went nuts about it ('cause the movie is awesome) and actually hacked my parents off when I told them I wanted to spend 1 day playing the game instead of skiing. We lived in Missouri at the time, and I genuinely loved skiing in Colorado, so they were completely baffled as to why I was so enamored with it. Good video!
Fun facts: 1. TRON was originally to have a short feature film added after the movie called "Computers Are People Too" but it got axed. 2. The TRON arcade cabinets had blacklight bulbs & an internally lit joystick. Your white clothes would glow while in front of it, similar to the movie style. 3. Don Bluth -> the Dragon's Lair & Space Ace laserdisc arcade games. Look closely at the Secret of Nimh and you'll see the artwork & lettering looks extremely similar to Dragon's Lair if you've seen it. 4. There were little fold-out promotional posters for the movie. I had one I got on eBay some few years ago. There were also toys like the light cycles & figures that were cool looking. The figures each came with their own disc. 5. There are other Disney easter eggs in the move so Pac-Man isn't the only easter egg in it. Sadly the sequel, TRON: Legacy, didn't live up to it's potential. It's still a fun one to watch anyway & has some nice effects in it.
@Mark E. Fenlason Agreed, I'm glad I grew up in the later 70's/ early 80's when arcade games were all the rage. Those decades were the best and it was a such a fun and simpler time back then.
Mmmm, 7-11 Coke Slurpie. Those were amazing. I used to freeze what I didn't finish and it was a good summer sugar-ice pop. Sadly my 7-11s never had video game machines.
Journey's _Separate Ways_ was NEVER a part of the movie. The two songs were _Only Solutions_ which was at the end of the credits and _1990_ an instrumental that was used during the early arcade scene at Flynn's.
I was disappointed with TRON:Legacy since it was not the direction I would have taken the storyline. TRON:Uprising looked really cool but I have only seen the first two episodes.
@@billkeithchannel Purchased both seasons on Amazon Prime. It's pretty cool. The animation style is a bit too Aeon Flux for my taste, but it works in its weird iconic way. If I had to guess, it fell victim to being very expensive to produce (animation is top notch, and it stars Bruce Boxleitner, Elijah Wood, Lance Henriksen, Pee Wee Herman, and others) and it was aired on a subsidiary network (Disney XD) that usually isn't in basic cable packages, which would have pay gated the ratings quite a bit.
@@valecrassus7835 believe it or not, Uprising was actually cancelled due to a lack of viewers. This was mainly because 1, it was put on DisneyXD. 2, they would stream episodes at like 12 in the morning. And 3, it was really aimed at the wrong age group. They were expecting kids as young as 7 to watch the show but it's really more for teenagers. At the end of the day, not enough people watched the show so it was never continued. It sucks because it's a really good show and it has so much potential.
Tron is one of my favorite movies of all time. When I completed building my home movie room with 90 inch HD projection screen it was the very first movie I played. This movie is the forerunner of all modern CGI movies and because 1982 was one of the best years for movies ever it got lost in the sea of great films.
Holy balls. All this time, I had NO idea you could pass through the tanks in that segment of the TRON videogame. You really do learn something new every day.
11: The memory of the computers at that time were so limited, they couldn't put both wheels on the lightcycles. The rear wheels had to be animated by hand. 12: There was no graphical interface for the rendering software at that time so the animators couldn't tell where in the world the models were. They had to go strictly by world coordinates.
I remember that oscars thing when I was a kid. I argued with older people allot over it. I guess they thought you just punch a few buttons on a keyboard and an image magically appears. Not to mention how hard it was back then to transfer a digital image to film. Watch the documentary on the DVD. It's longer than the movie.
@@requinremembers I kind of felt the same way when I first watched it. But, once I got past expectations and accepted the movie on its own terms, I came to like it.
Hunter's Moon I like legacy more. Reason being that the story is much better, much more powerful. Pacing is faster which is a good thing. Action and visuals are technically better. And finally the music is epic, emotional, beautiful, badass, and amazing, and kind of helps drive the story and character feelings. Tron was already good, but legacy expanded, and improved.
Great video! Back in 1979 my friend and I stumbled across an Apple ][ computer in a side room off the library at our Jr High school. We spent hours teaching ourselves BASIC programming after school and created some simple but fun games. When Tron came out it totally captured my imagination. Thanks for the blast from the past. Incidentally, in 2003 Buena Vista games released Tron 2.0 for PC. It was fantastic and totally captured the feel of the Tron world in a FPS. Still have it around here somewhere....
I remember seeing the preview for Tron when I was a kid and being kinda freaked out by it. Everything was black and neon and was just different looking than the world I was familiar with. It took me a long time to see this, but when I did I loved it! I finally saw it in college when Babylon 5 was in full swing; I enjoyed seeing Bruce Boxleitner as Tron, but was happily surprised to see his B5 co-star Peter Jurasik as the discus player Flynn defeats in his first game. That show is a classic too and has a lot of great computer effects.
8:00 - Journey recorded "Only Solutions" and the instrumental "1990's Theme" (heard in the arcade sequences) for the soundtrack. "Only Solutions" was later remixed for inclusion on Journey's 'Time3' box set and is a lesser version IMO. "Separate Ways" was on the 'Frontiers' album and featured in the arcade scene of 'Tron Legacy', but was never on the soundtrack. Nitpicking, I know.
Wow, that took me back! I can still recall the buzz of seeing Tron. And yep, those early 80's spawned some of the most iconic and memorable films of recent cinematic history. I'm not sure how many times I've watched Tron, at the movies, on VHS, on DVD, on Bluray, as a digital HD download - but it must be more than 40 or 50 times by now. I remember coming out of the theatre with my head literally spinning because of the (then) dazzling CGI, the likes of which I'd never seen. As a die hard Star Wars, Star Trek and all-things Sci Fi fan, Tron still stood out to me, far more so than ET that was too soft and "girlie" for me as a newly-minted teen. Although it might seem like heresy to purists, I'd love to see a CGI-only remake of Tron, using the original soundtrack. I still enjoy the movie, but the increasingly dated-looking SFX feel quite pale and 2D compared to today's CGI. Admittedly, a lot of today's CGI is just OTT and often adds little to thin, politically-correct stories. But applying modern CGI to a classic like Tron would, IMHO, be pure gold. Maybe in the future there will be "an APP for that"... just upload the original movie, and the APP spits out a fully updated CGI version for those of us who like that kind of thing. :-)
A modern classic. I remember watching this for the first time as a kid and found it unwatchable at the time. I think the brightness of the lights did something to my vision. No problems today of course.
Yeah i too had the same feeling when i watched it for the first time. I felt it was a little boring. But the movie still impressed me a lot and stuck in my head. Four or 5 years later i watched it again and this time the spark ignited something in me and i became a huuuge fan. Now i own it on DVD, Laserdisc and Blu-ray. And also have a copy of the Soundtrack too.
Those computer graphics were impossible in home back when this came out. It was pretty impressive. It was a era of discovery for the computer and TRON was a dream of what might be.
One of my favourite movies. I watched this with my dad back in the day, but he thought it was silly, asking me if I thought little people were living in my computer. I had to explain that it was an allegory; It was about us. WE are the little people inside a computer.
I was 11 yrs old when Tron came out and it looked so freakin cool. It was way ahead of it's time in look, concept, & filming techniques. Plus, both it's storyline and it's visuals foreshadowed virtual reality and the amazing game graphics that were to come. The fact that they were snubbed by the Oscars just shows how ahead of their time they were. The 1982 film industry had no idea the future was going that way. Bottom line, Tron deserves it's cult status for MANY reasons.
The visuals in the first Tron still look awesome even in 2021. The combination of the B/W film with the stark blue and red colorized images and the early CGI, it just looks awesome.
In 1985, I bought a Tron (standup version) from Bally, while I worked at a Le Man's Family Fun Center. I had it in my apartment for a couple years, and ended up selling it to my room mate. Today, he owns the 1984 Arcade, in Springfield, MO, and that same Tron one of over 100 video games they have (plus 20-something pinball machines). These days, I have a sit-down Ms. Pac-Man that I converted to a flat screen, and put a Game Elf inside, so now I have 412 classic video games in one cabinet, including Tron. From time to time, I drive down to Springfield, and play my old Tron game.
I did my part for Tron's Box Office numbers. I saw the movie in theaters twice. Granted, it was the Sunday matinee and only cost me $1.50 for each ticket, but hey, I was a kid. Lawnmowing income didn't stretch very far. But I did love the movie. To make up for it, I'm pretty sure I dropped at least $2 Grand in quarters into the video game. It was one of my favorites.
@@craigmanning2439 That's cool man. Wasn't RPG the language invented to replace the punchcard system? That is some great computer history there. I remember getting excited because I recognized a lot of the languages in the game. Good times. The only languages I taught myself as a kid was BASIC and Pascal on a Commodore 64. I had fun with BASIC and made some really basic (forgive the pun), horrible games that I was extremely proud of. Got more in depth in PASCAL with a Computer Science class in High School. C++ was the main language I learned in college, as I changed to a Biology major my freshman year. I've always enjoyed coding and still do it for fun now, but I never made a career out of it.
@@rexfellis Cool, I do IT a little on the side to pull in extra cash and believe it or not there are still a few shops out there that do RPG and Cobol. (I-Series, AS400's for the win). Not very much though. Maybe 2-4 jobs a year for the last 5 years. And there are nuances and have to bring myself up to speed on each job.
@@craigmanning2439 That's cool man. I build gaming rigs on the side for extra dough. I have fun with them, and the final trouble shooting, while frustrating sometimes, is usually my favorite part. I should probably do more coding, but with a full-time job, a family, and the computer building/repair, I just don't have a lot of extra time. I knew that Cobol was still used, especially on older servers, but I thought RPG was a thing of the past. Thanks for letting me know about it.
I’m still baffled that it didn’t do well at the box office in 1982. I remember watching TRON when I was 7 years old. And of course, I absolutely loved this movie. And of course I loved ET as well. Still, I don’t get why TRON wasn’t a box office hit.
Thanks for another great video, man. Tron has been a favourite of mine since it blew my immature 11-year-old mind when I plunked myself down in that theatre seat back in July 1982.
...Zardoz was a mid-1970's movie directed by John Boorman... ...who would later direct the Arthurian legend spectacle of the early 1980's 'Excalibur'...
The arcade game was released in 1981 a full 6 months before the movie came out. Steve felt that the movie didn't feel like a Disney movie so he added the Mickey Mouse logo during the Solar Sailor scene as a cameo. It was the music of Wendy Carlos that gave it a Disney feel.
There was a second TRON video game released in 1983 that was arguably better than the one we all know and love. It was called Discs of Tron and the original "cabinets" included a "photobooth" style build where you would actually "enter" the game, adding to the immersion of being 'in the game'. It was essentially the disc battle scene from the movie that would have you throwing your disc at your opponent and also bounce off the walls to attack. It was one of the earliest games that had an actual 3D environment where your sprite and your opponent were 2D, but the discs moved in 3D space. It was extremely unique and presented the player with an entirely new playing experience like Battlezone in 1980 (again, an extremely early version of real 3D), Dragon's Lair in 1983 (and the other laserdisc games that followed) and then Afterburner II in 1987. I love your videos, but I sure do wish you would invest in a microphone for the shots when you're on camera.
Intellivision had Tron: Deadly Discs, which I still have the system and game and can play it, but the controllers don't work consistently........One of my favorite video games.....
I was scrolling through looking for mention of discs of tron, glad I'm not the only one that remembers it. Tron 2.0 Was also pretty great on pc, the light cycles mode on it was amazing for the time
I saw Tron several times in the theatre in 1982 but my father had a friend who owned a theater. I also saw Road Warrior and Blade Runner in the same theatre and many Kung Fu movies there as well
I love TRON! For its time it was amazing and nowadays it still holds up pretty well even against its sequel. Also Jeff Bridges and Bruce Boxleitner are pretty hot in those outfits lol. That aside I'm glad Disney did this film.
I worked at a resort in the late 80’s and they had the TRON GAME downstairs in our rec room area. I friggin’ MASTERED that game! I was actually SO GOOD at it that it became boring. But I still love it…and the movie too. 😉
I just want another Tron with the aesthetic of Legacy. It had a C+ story, but the music, cinematography, and visuals were A+ (except for Clu). I recognize that Clu’s CGI was the best they could’ve done at the time, but it just subtracted from the film with how distracting it was.
I remember seeing the promo ads in newspapers and magazines for "Tron" prior to its release. I, myself, was really looking forward to seeing the movie when it debuted in movie theaters in 1982. When I finally watched the movie, I was incredibly thrilled with the film. It was unlike any other movie I had ever seen before, and, in my opinion, "Tron" has not been matched yet as a science fiction film.
TRON had such an effect on me, I had the VHS video on order for near on 10 months and it cost ~AUD80, the first 'commercial/cinema feature' I bought. It also helped that I was all over the IBM PC release at the time.. and I was hugely into synthesizers following hearing Carlos' "Switched On Bach" (in 1970) and other synthesists, like Jean-Michel Jarre, Isao Tomita, Vangelis, etc... Such a great conglomeration of music, art and computing..
