Alexander Theoharis That’s exactly what I feel CES is like for me! I go and walk away with all sorts of gadgets I had no idea existed that I feel like I must have.
Great video. Enjoyable. I wanted to offer a bit of info. 1. The remote is Bluetooth so you dont need to point at tv or the one connect. You can turn volume and pause shows from other rooms... it's cool. And it can control other devices connected via the HDMI connectivity. so even with a home AV system and Amazon stick.. that remote controls it all. 2. Serial number can be gotten out of the menu, so don't worry about either box or back of tv. .... Samsung can also remote access in to your TV from their offices. they're legit in customer support as you mentioned. 3. The One connect is able to fit inside 45mm conduit for those asking. You probably can get through your 2-3 inch, tape it carefully, don't have right angles and you can rotate it as you pull to get past bumps in flex tubing. Hope that helps. 4. The QLED is backlight by warm and cool LED lights, or dual LED, the OLED individual pixels are lit individually. So OLED do get much blacker. My man Paul explains on his channel EASYSHOT. He has a similarly smooth delivery as do you. 5. I didn't investigate the Apple TV yet, glad it has that. To be able to share both Android and apple is nice. See even pros learn. I imagine if it has Apple TV, you can access your photos and music directly through the Apple account and not have to share it from phone no? Not sure as I'm not an apple guy. Again good info and video. Hit me up on IG to collab @b_the_installer
Thankyou! This is great info, and I'll get it into the video description. I should've thought to test the remote in another room to see if it was RF Based...kicking myself for that one. The serial number thing is important if the board in the panel is dead (Which mine was). That was the kicker is I couldn't get the panel to show anything, and it happened during OOBE so I didn't have it connected to my network. So I had to unmount it..and that wasn't fun. For the apple stuff...I have an iphone but use onedrive for storage, so my apple account doesn't have the pics/videos I'm trying to share..though you're right if I had them on that account I could certainly do that in the apple tv 'app' that comes with it. Thanks for the informative comment, really appreciated, i'll find you on ig
@@geektoolkit awesome. Yeah a black out on the screen and uh oh. Haha. I hate getting to a job, spending the time to put mount up and cords run, power outlet, and we go to mount and cracked screen. Shit... haha. I'm about to take the white and beige frames to a job and shoot some info for another one. I found you cause your vjdeo sends me traffic so thanks lol. Definitely hit me up. B
Let me add one caveat. I received the 65 inch 2020 Frame yesterday. As I was prepping the tv for mounting, one of the four M4-L14 tiny screws that attach the mounting bracket to the rear of the tv broke an internal mount. Three of them snuggled down normally, but the lower right one broke just as it began to snug down. No store had this locally so I bought through Amazon (Prime too!) and got it in 2 days. The box and tv were undamaged. Unfortunately, the mount that broke is internal to the tv and needs either a tech visit or an exchange. Amazon tech support connected me to Samsung tech support who determined the tv would either need repair or replacement. So I await a return call from Amazon as to what they want to do to get me a good tv. The hazards of buying online.... but I really didn’t have much choice since they aren’t locally available. I can order one from BestBuy for a mid July delivery. Might have to end up going that route and just get a refund if Amazon can’t replace. Meanwhile, I’m discovering multiple options I didn’t initially consider as I watch various YT videos on the installation. And am considering running the fiber cable in wall in spite of it not being in wall rated.
@@speedlever that screw is a non-issue. The other 3 can and will hold, end of discussion. The cord can be put in wall, NBD, i do it all the time. If something is going to damage that wire, it would damage an in wall rated wire as well... drywall screw though romex will just kill power. Its probably less than 1 of a million chance anything would happen. That is your call. But no issue with that screw. Sometimes people tighten them too much and break the bolt hole. If it were the top hole in a wider 400mm Vesa mount pattern, you would have real issue. But this is non-issue
Keep in mind if you’re already going to plumb through the wall you can run it through conduit and be in code. I really feel like the big deal with the cable is that it is running a considerable amount of power and if a nail were to hit it in the future it could hurt/kill someone. If I were to do it I’d just run conduit if possible. If not I’d probably just mark behind the TV “power cable behind here” so that a future homeowner would know.
Wow. Incredibly helpful video, it answers many of the questions I couldn't find straight answers to, in my search online. I'm going to wait until they release an in-wall rated cable. Thanks for saving me some disappointment!
What an excellent overview of this TV!! This TV was gifted to me so I'm expecting it soon, so I wanted to look into it more. Thank you for this video!!
Great information! I saw this TV at an AirBNB last summer and was impressed. It took me a day before I realized it was a TV. I've been researching ever since. I think it will probably be my next TV purchase. Thanks for the video review!
Thankyou for the kind comment! Sorry I'm so late on this, sometimes comments slip by. Hope that if you get it you have as much fun as I've had with it!
Thank you for review. Towards the end when you are showing art work images, there is a grey bar on top of the images of varying lengths. Saw it in all the images you showed. What is it? Doesn’t look to be part of effect.
It’s a timer when showing sample artwork...it’s not there unless you go to the art store and preview work. I should’ve covered that...it was subtle so I didn’t think people would notice
@@geektoolkit I'm glad Ravi asked, because it was something that caught my eye... almost immediately. Haha. At first, I thought a shadow, or a glitch. But since it seemed to be getting longer, my hypothesis was... a timer of some sort. It did seem odd.
@@OB1_CanOBeans Yep you were right, just a timer. I love that, I need to put more fun stuff into the background of my videos, I didn't realize people watch so closely! :D
Oh man you made my day. Thankyou...it takes so much work to get things written down and rehearsed...and then I have to make edits and cut stuff out and I wonder 'is this even going to make sense to people'. So comments like yours after all the work make my day. I'm definitely working on more videos, but they're more projects I'm working on that others can build. I do think that they'll be exciting though...hopefully out in the next week or two!
Hey mate, really appreciate the depth that you went to in this video. Your explanations were great - down to earth and really useful. Thanks so much - you convinced me that I do need to buy one. I was going to spend a few hundred on getting some photobooks printed for our 2019 trip to England, Ireland and Iceland, but this is such a better way of showing the photos.
Oh I bet that was an epic trip! It's neat because I use mine for some pics from England/Ireland and they look great on there (I haven't been to Iceland yet, it's on my list). It's been really handy I think to just have something to look up and smile at here and there. Glad you liked it!
Thank you for The Frame review, just in the process of setting my one up. You have confirmed this tv was the right purchase to make, after weeks of dithering over the many models available to choose from.
In your video here I see a thick, white-ish looking line at the top (inside) of the frame - in art mode only, but not when playing video. It doesn't go all the way across either (I see different line lengths on different artwork pics), but it's in many of your art examples (ie. 12:45, 16:07, 16:14, 16:23, 16:33, 16:40, 16:45). Is this just an artifact of your room lighting and camera angles? Or is this a glitch when using your own photos perhaps? I'd hate to buy one of these and have that line there...
That line is when you are previewing “store” photos that you haven’t bought. It’s a timer. It allows you to preview the store artwork on the frame as it’d appear (except for the timer line). It gets smaller and when it’s done it goes back to the store mode. When using your own photos you won’t see that (thankfully)
Hey appreciate your genuine review. I just ordered the 2024 65 verson of this in Canada, for $2500. Hella expensive. But wanted the frame look. Wanted to know, you, 4 years later, any long term issues? Has it gotten better with update, or worse? PS: you just gained a subscriber
@@sunkneeethanks! So for my four year old one things are going fine but it’s not my main tv any longer. But it didn’t have many features of the newer Samsung models, and the new frames are half the thickness which is much nicer. I have a new non frame Samsung I got which I should do a review on because the softwares much nicer with ambient mode and such. Hopefully yours has ambient mode and the game streaming if you’re a gamer
How to turn this off.Press and hold power button still 5 min pass i can see red light down the tv.Whwn should i unplug the tv or off electricity switch.
I just tap that button or I hold the “art” button on the remote for two seconds. The red light is standby, that’s ok to have on. You don’t have to turn it off to unplug it it should be fine.
@@geektoolkit thankyou very much for fast reply sir. Like from India 👍 Just wanted to clear doubt as i was confused after i see the red light and when i switch off the electricity ,the one connect box makes sound like fussss....
I bought the 2020, 65 inch about a month ago I bought it for the art mode and subscribe to the art gallery for me it was worth every penny. The TV mode is very, very good. My cable is mounted in the wall and not in conduit, I assume if it's installed by a contractor then they will follow code as the homeowner and installer I will do whatever I want. Bottom line if you're on the fence jump over and buy this art/tv. I wasn't disappointed and I'm thinking of buying the 43inch just for art mode and ambient mode.
Undefined name I’m about to buy the tv myself and run the cable in the wall but through a conduit. Majority of the reviews I’ve seen, people put the cable behind the wall with no conduit. However if the cable isn’t in wall rated more then likely it doesn’t matter what a contractor does. The kicker is, if a fire started due to the cable being in wall and you house burned down, you can kiss your check goodbye from your home or renter insurer. Very doubtful but that’s the risk I’m willing to take when I install mine.
6 GB limit in the 2021 model isn't many pictures or videos to display in Art mode for the price. Ill have to wait to see what the 2022 model has for memory. I solely wanted this for displaying my own image and video art! 2 TB memory would be much better and with batch upload, etc. processing vs. one file at a time menu funtionality they have (sb simple software coding fix). Better, please allow Art mode from external hard drive! Samsung is completely out of tune and out of touch with the market with this one; product is a brilliant fail!! With tiny 6 GB limit, seems like best suited to commercial retail applications of use such as restaurants as menu boards or for drygood retail displays. Hmmm
I get what you're saying, and technically yes, it'd be somewhat easy to have the device show thousands of photos and put tons of space in there. But they made a business and design decision that this is designed for artwork, and ideally it's curated pieces. I have tons of photos, as most people do nowadays. Do they look good on a frame? Absolutely not. It takes care to go through pick out certain ones, lay them out, etc. That being said, it showed me that there's a market for a large format frame that CAN do what you (and I) want, and so I designed my dynaframe project to be that.
QLED is just a marketing term for an LCD TV with a slightly fancy backlight. It’s just intended to sound like OLED, a superior display tech that Samsung doesn’t make (at least at TV sizes).
I love OLEDs contrast ratio, but for this use the screen burn in would make it unusable for this scenario. LGs OLED gallery TVs really demonstrate this when they change every five seconds. While OLED is superior on contrast, there are trade offs (color vibrancy is another area). I’m the end like most tech I think it’s all about what works for the scenario. I love my frame TVs where I want artwork, but I look forward to upgrading to an LG OLED or even a laser short throw projector at some point :)
I wasn't planning on buying this TV. Just saw the frame in its name online and I decided to RU-vid it to see what it meant. Ended up watching all 17 minutes and subbing. Very comprehensive and simply explained!
I’m wanting to mount this over a fireplace. Can I run the single cable through the wall and have everything plug in behind the wall (cable, cat5, power, etc) or are there some things that I would need accessible directly behind the tv on the fireplace? Thanks!
That's actually the beauty of the design...there's a single wire (it's I think 2-3inches thick on the end) that you'd have to run, and then that goes to a 'box'. The box has all of the plugins on the back of it, including power. So if you can run a conduit big enough to get that wire through, then you can have everything plugged in off tot he side and have a very very clean setup
I bought the Frame 65. A super TV. I wouldn't give it away! BUT: In art mode you can load a maximum of 50 pictures on the TV, the memory space is limited by Samsung. And if you don't do that immediately after setup you'll get an error message that the memory is full. I e.g. could NOT load ANY PICTURE on it after 2 days. In the support forum since model 2019 it's reported. Samsung has not announced a fix so far. The only way for me: Reset (loss of all settings) and then quickly load the images onto it 🤣🤣🤣 Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Thankyou!! I love most fighting games...Tekken just looks so dang sweet with the current tech. I discovered 7 on a visit to Akihabara and got smoked at it (protip don’t try to learn a fighting game in a Japanese arcade). I thought my skills from Tekken Tag would carry forward...NOPE. Hworang is my fav character. Who do you play as?
@@geektoolkit That’s awesome! I’d love to play in a Japanese arcade. Those guys are too good. Hwoarang is my favorite character as well. You should add me on steam and psn. euroslick18 is my tag and I’d be down to play sometime. Also, I like the fireplace as well. I’m currently redoing mine and am looking for ideas. I did have a question and maybe you can provide some insight. I like how you said that Samsung took care of the issue you had. Do you think it’s better to purchase this expensive TV through Samsung or Amazon?
I’ll get you added on steam it’d be fun to play sometime! As far as Samsung...they cover it if the serial number shows it’s in the warranty period. We actually got ours on EBay. If you get it from Samsung it’s a bit easier for them to provide service and I think it’s a bit quicker but they took care of me within a week. But that’s why the serial number was so critical for me. They recently had some models at Costco so that may be another option to look into for price/service (I’ve always had good luck with Costco)
@@geektoolkit cool dude and thanks for mentioning ebay. I actually just bought one from there for cheaper than anywhere else. Hopefully everything goes well and there’s no problems. I was able to purchase a service for a couple years and it appears the manufacturer’s warranty is one year. Tekken on this thing will be amazing.
@@euroslick18 Yay congrats! I have a followup I'm editing tonight that'll show you some other fun stuff...I found out how to do 'true slideshow' settings if you're sharing pics with family, and you can remote desktop into a computer and use it as a monitor (pc or mac). I just keep discovering stuff it can do! And if you got the 2020, there's ambient mode and hdmi 2.1 on it. Crazy cool stuff
This video is a great help. I am getting a new home and TV and this has help me make a decision. I did not know about the additional box that I need to plan for in my construction.
Glad it helped!!! If you’re doing construction I highly recommend in wall speakers/wire runs, especially to the rear and possibly to the sides. I wish I had done that when I had my room built!
Is there a way to rotate artwork faster than 3 min? At present (2021) the Frame’s shortest time is 3 minutes. Can I override that somehow?. My Frame is in a hallway in a art studio building so people wont stand and wait 3 minutes for the next rotation.
Not the 'frame' portion. There is a slideshow built in that I think can go faster (I have a followup video that shows that). It also has transition effects. You could try leaving that running possibly. I also made software for a raspberry pi computer that can do slideshows pretty quickly as well. (It's called Dynaframe on my channel)
Not sure if youre still looking at these comments, but whats up with the bright white line on the top left of the screen. It appears on a lot of images and it changes in length depending on what the TV is showing. it's not always there, like when the video ends it's not there. Is that a real artifact being displayed by the TV or is it some peculiar reflection happening that wouldn't normally happen. Thank you for the video!
Yep I always look at my comments!! That line is a timer when showing artwork from the store when you’re previewing it. I wanted to show what art from the store looks like and didn’t think to mention the timer. I have a follow up video for this that goes into stuff like that and my experiences after using it for 8 months that may be of interest
Hi thanks for the vid! Very helpful. Question- does your cable bac still have to be visible in this system or can it be hidden away with the one box in another location? Thanks Steve
So the one box has all inputs for the tv, including power. You can hide that anywhere and the remote is RF so it’ll go through any cabinets. Does that answer what you’re asking?
Hey sorry, I bought a Samsung sero tv , I am able to find an att and t tv app on it but can't find the Direct tv app. Pls help me to locate this app on my Samsung sero tv pls
I'm just a guy that got the TV and was showing what it can do, I'm not really Samsung support. I'd join the samsung forums and ask there. Typically if the app isn't in the store it may not exist sadly.
Thankyou!! And greetings from Washington USA :) I got to visit the Netherlands once, and it was insanely beautiful and friendly. The museums of Amsterdam are amazing, and the Tulips...Washington is known for it's tulips, but the tulip market in Amsterdam was amazing :) Hope you enjoy the TV!
Now, if I can just decide between The Frame and the Q90T. The Q90T specs blow The Frame out of the water, but I'm not sure if it can do as good of a job as appearing as artwork. In theory, it should because it has ambient mode as well, and is even thinner than the frame. I wish I could talk to somebody who owned both and used it for that purpose. I'm not sure if there are small differences in his that works between them. I think the subscription service is only available to The Frame, but I'm not as worried about that. I can always upload my own artwork and not pay for their service.
That’s fair! I should’ve researched it more. I learn from feedback and work to get better, and I appreciate it, it helps me out. If no one says anything then I wouldn’t know! So Thankyou :)
yeah IMO uploading your own photos is what made it worth it..I couldn't see paying 300 dollars for digital art myself, but I get that everyone's different. I'm glad this helped you!
Yeah Samsung TV's, esp. the frame panels, are criticized for black levels, but I've not seen them criticized for colors...that's like the one thing they're REALLY good at....my QN85 I just got..when watching kids content/cartoons is so colorful its astounding. Hopefully it's a backlight or panel thing and they get you sorted
Very informative. Thank you. I went to make a repair claim today and not having written down the model and serial number, I was told it was on the back of the screen, as you mentioned. Not being able to lift the screen off the wall on my own, I looked in the settings / about, and that information was there.
I like this tv but rtings..com had it at a 7.5 for mixed usage. It’s scores a 7.1 for movies and a 7.2 for HDR movies. I do love the art mode but for the money currently $1900 for the 65 inch you can buy a 75 inch Sony 950H which scores an 8.3 for mixed usage. 8.4 for movies and 8.2 for HDR content. Which is a noticeable difference when watching content or playing games. You could also buy a Samsung Q90T for $1700 which has a rating of 8.5 mixed usage. 8.4 for movies and 8.3 for hdr movies. Sure you won’t get access to the content that you would for the Frame. However you’re going to get a much better television viewing experience. I keep trying to justify buying a Frame but I keep coming back to the price vs what you get. It’s just not worth it. For $200 more you can buy the 2022 Q90A which scores a 8.6 on mixed usage, 8.5 on movies and 8.6 on HDR movies. You also get access to the ambient mode which people will say it’s not the same. But it’s similar. We buy TV’s for their viewing experience not for static pictures. The only real value that this tv has is for entertainment purposes.
Yes this is something I felt I covered...if you’re looking for the aesthetic then there’s nothing else on the market (at the time I made this but even now) that compares. To say that people buy a TV for the picture above aesthetic is an incorrect assertion...for me (and others) the aesthetic for that TV was more important. I have a media TV where performance was more important. So then the question is with the aesthetic, is the image and features on this TV solid, and I believe so (and other reviews have backed that...it’s not the best, but it’s solid). The “for the money” portion is true if you assume that someone is looking across all TVs, and I tried to point that out (and reiterated it in the follow up). But if you’re looking for a frame..this is where it’s at. Ambient mode is only one portion of the package, and doesn’t cover the actual look of the device on the wall, only the software.
@@geektoolkit you’re exactly right! Where aesthetic is more important this is the way to go. I totally agree. I think that I will buy a 43 strictly for the art as I do agree that it adds a great aesthetic. Thanks for the response, I appreciate it
Of course! I luckily bought for the aesthetic, and the rest of the stuff (game streaming, that it turned off, that it frames my personal photos, etc) all impressed me so I made this because finding info on this TV, esp. when I made this was ridiculously hard (most reviews just talked about whatever the marketing material said). For my TV that I want to really enjoy for image quality I’m considering an LG OLED, though these “near field laser” projectors are starting to get interesting
Thanks! That room didn’t have much glare (well when filming I had my lighting rig) but my new house has windows throughout the living room so it seems I’ll have to look at upgrading! Darn :D
Does this not have bluetooth so you can run a bluetooth soundbar? If it does then when purchasing a sound bar, then just get one that's bluetooth enabled so there will be no need cables? I know my son's 55 inch cheapie Samsung TV has bluetooth, so we bought a bluetooth soundbar which came with a subwoofer. No wires at all needed for the sound bar setup, and provides great sound. With your setup, I'd mount the soundbar in the underside of that shelve, so it wouldn't be seen, and just have it firing downward. You might have to crank up the highs and mid sound setting slightly to compensate for it firing downward, but that should compensate nicely, and then just have a subwoofer tucked away somewhere in the room. The great thing about subwooders is the lower sound frequency coming from them isn't at all directional, so no matter where you put it in the room, it will still sound the same.
That’s a great idea! I’d actually considered it, and it does support it. The thing is the sound in the TV is really good, so if I were to add a soundbar (for my uses) I’d look to get Dolby Atmos. This doesn’t support passing Atmos over Bluetooth. In the end, for my setup I’m focusing on my theater area and leaving this as it is, it looks clean, works great and we enjoy photos of our daughter on it.
@@geektoolkit Yeah, if this isn't going to be you "home theater" tv, then best to probably leave it as is, and sink the good stuff into the man cave. That's what I would do, if I had a man cave. I have a family room, where I do all of my TV watching, but then our 12 year son has the entire loft as his really cool "kid cave." I'm actually envious, and starting to look forward to him going to off to college so I can annex his awesome space : ) Of course I'm joking, because I'll probably be the one crying in the driveway when he leaves some day. I'm really loving this Frame TV though. Our family room is right inside of our front door, so it would be nice to not have a huge black TV as the first thing you notice when coming into our home. Would be nice to have it camouflaged as a nice painting. Or I could just mess with my wife and have it pop up as a giant 75 inch portrait of me when she walks in the room : )
@@pumpkinheadghoul LMAO! Oh what a great comment...I have a 2.5 year old daughter and have an idea of where you're coming from...her play room would be a great work shop :D Have you seen ambient mode on the newer samsung TVs? The 2020 frame and beyond have it (mine didn't...grr) but it's also another option for hiding the tv, though I've heard conflicting reports on how well it works. I think if mine wasn't over a fireplace it'd be much easier to work in some wires and do something clean..so if that's the case for you something to consider. The giant face prank sounds awesome...I was trying to think if you could pull that off dynamically (have one photo there maybe when she walks by, but then a minute later have it be a giant face) and realized that the app should let you do that since it lets you choose the artwork. That would be pretty awesome :D I'm really happy with it. Alot of my wishlist for it are things that would be pretty niche (I'd love for it to support videos and audio like my Dynaframe project does), I'd like it to have an option of powering directly off of the TV (I have a power port behind my TV I can't use because of the nature of the onecable). But those are nitpicks for my situation. It's been a good TV, and though I have an LG with a more theater like setup luckily, some days I just prefer to be in that room where there are more windows, and I never think 'oh I'm going to use the crap TV'. Things still sound and look great. Here's to us, parents, and hoping that we don't cry too hard when they leave us, and that they find success health and happiness!
This was super helpful. My 5 year old Vizio 55 inch TV just went out today and I am in the market for a replacement. This video convinced me this is the model for me! So thank you for making this!
Glad it helped!!! But also sorry to hear your Vizio went out. My friends and I talk about how we can still find an old CRT TV and the thing will turn on and work after 30 years, and yet modern ones can't seem to compete with that. Well hoping this one brings you as much entertainment as it did to me!
A very nice video. Did you have any additional challenges when you installed the 'customizable frame' around the edge? I got the frame for my 2022 frame today and it has messed with night mode when in art mode. With the new wood frame, it would turn off art mode after 1 minute in the middle of the day. I think it thinks I have turned off the device and have gone to bed for the night. It was very frustrating so I have disabled night mode for the time being. I hope it calibrates itself better and relearns the light levels.
I don’t have experience with the newer models mine was before they did the reduction in width. I’d definitely reach out to them to make sure that there’s not something wrong somewhere
I've heard you can adjust the picture of the photo mode MUCH more accurately in the app on your phone. You should give it a try. During this video, the brightness and color are extremely inaccurate. I've heard this complaint from others and their solution was to tinker with the colors in the app. Make a video if it works!
Thanks! That's a killer tip, I'll check it out. I'll have to do a follwup this ended up alot more popular than I realized...I made it just cause I thought it was a fun TV. I'll play with it more!
At least in the US, there are building codes of what can be run in a wall and be “to code”. The cable, by itself, according to Samsung’s support, is not rated to be used in wall by itself. This means if you do it there may be a risk, though what that risk is or the consequences are hard to say. If you run a cable through in wall rated conduit it doesn’t matter if the cable is rated for it. So if you run it through conduit it would be “to code”. I’m not a building inspector or really qualified to speculate beyond that. I’m just relaying what I learned doing research. Some people care about being to code, and installers should install to code. That being said I’ve seen when remodeling my last house horrible things that worked fine for 40 years but were definitely not “to code”.
Can we run slide show from SmartThings apps for our own photos and how many photos we can upload to SmartThings ? Also those photos get stored in tv ? As tv has only 500mb space it’s not possible to have more than 10-20 photos uploaded to tv itself .
There is a slideshow app. The frame itself isn’t really a slide show in that it’s not meant to say go through 100 pictures to show friends. It’s an art display that rotates images...the fastest is every 10 minutes and the art has to be loaded up. So if you’re looking to do a slideshow, my follow up shows what that looks like. You can plug in a thumb drive and as big as it is it’ll show you photos. For the frame mode there are 500 mega of storage for the 2019,2020 and 6 gigs for 2021. My follow up has more info
@@geektoolkit thanks I saw the other video . So what is app to view the slide show name is not clear to me . Also SmartThings is app where I can download photos but eventually they are copied to tv so if tv has 500mb space how are we going to store more than 10-20 photos on tv . Do you know how to use SmartThings app ? Thanks for all the valuable suggestions and I have already subscribed to your channel
Thanks for the support! On the TV there is a slideshow feature, it's not really an app, and its in a menu to the left of th emain menu when you select a thumbdrive. it lets you view images, add music, change transitions directly off a usb drive. You can have as many images as you can fit on the drive. It's not really an app, it's more like a built in function of the TV when viewing images on a thumbdrive directly. That's what i show in the other video..there's no 'app' per se. This however...has nothing to do with the frame functionality (the picture that shows when you put it in 'picture frame' mode. It's a bit confusing, but it's just how the tv works. To control those images, you have 500mb dedicated on the tv, and the images must be loaded there. You can load them from a usb drive..>OR...us the smart things app to do that. That's where smart things comes in. a 4k image is probably 5-10mb based on size, so you can store 50-100 images into the frame for this purpose. You can't view them like a slideshow once they're on the frame. you can set them as the art image, and then you can set a rotation...but the fastest you can set is 10 minutes.
We have an 9 year old 60 inch LG plasma we're looking to replace, which is what led me to your video. However, as for voice assist. We use a 4K fire TV stick for pretty much all of our smart features, along with an Echo Dot to interface with the Fire Stick. Our tv is a smart tv, but it's a bit outdated and LG no longer supports it with any firmware updates, and since the Fire TV supports the latest and greatest apps and voice assist features, so we use Alexa *although we named ours Echo, so that's our wake word). I noticed, I can walk in the room, say "Echo, turn on Fire the TV," and it will wake up the Fire TV stick, which then powers on my TV. Then I can say, "Echo, open Netflix," or "Open Plex" or Open RU-vid," etc..., and it will open whatever app I tell it. Then, once the app is open, for example in RU-vid, I can say "Echo, search for Fail videos" and it will pull up a list of relevant videos. Same goes for, say, Plex. "Echo, open Plex" and it will open my Plex TV app. "Echo, play Guardian's of the Galaxy 2" and it will instantly start playing that movie that I have stored on my home server." Of course you can also tell it to FF, RW, Pause, Play, etc... as well. I'm actually pretty impressed with the number of commands you can actually control with the Alexa app. It seems to also learn as you go, so things it was not very good at when we first started using it, it seems to have now learned and gotten better at.
Ooh I like that...then as Amazon updates the software on the stick the TV gets smarter, and is essentially a panel and sound system. That’s really cool. I keep getting rid of things hooked to the TVs as the newer ones are smarter, but like in this review I found the voice stuff is...less than ideal on these. Maybe I should dial back to Amazon devices. I use home assistant for automation so I’ll have to see how that all integrates together
This has a LOT of information, ALL spoken. With my volume maxed I can only hear it if my tablet is next to my ear. I don't know if you can fix this on RU-vid, but it's too long for people just to put up with choosing to hear OR to see it.
There’s nothing I can do once a video is up other than remake it. I’ve worked hard on my audio since this and record my newer videos at a much higher rate with audio compression. I’ll keep an eye on it for my 2021 videos (including a follow up to this). I appreciate the feedback
Thank you very much for the video we have just purchased the ‘Frame” and we were goring to install it yesterday but the conduit the builder installed is just too small
@@djbobbydevu9054 Everything is great. My husband is really enjoying sports, motor racing etc. We both enjoy the ability to put our favourite pictures of our granddaughter on the screen, larger than life ;-)
Thank you so much, this was very informational! I could not figure out where the HDMI outlets were on the dang thing with the continuous frame! Now I know! I'm going to do an over the fireplace mount and I had a previous estimate of $1000 for a standard TV to run the electrical in the wall to the nearest outlet, which did not factor in re-plastering or paint. I can work with a tiny wire!
On any estimate like that I'd get a few, and then make sure to ask them 'how would you solve this in your own house'. Sometimes they come up with an alternative that can save you a TON of money. It may be as simple as 'if you put the box here vs there it saves xyz dollars'.
I have the 2020 version. It's pretty great hardware, despite the horrific Art Store experience. You can't shuffle art, you can only mark it as a "favorite", and you can't organize things into a folder. And get this they only give you 500mb for your own photos. I wrote a more detailed review of owning it for more then a month if guys want more details: us.community.samsung.com/t5/Qled-and-Frame/The-Frame-2020-After-3-weeks-REVIEW-Impressions-and-suggestions/td-p/1209934
Great video! Just comment about the magnetic frames: I’m having a really hard time buying those. It seems that the Amazon seller cannot package them correctly and they just arrive broken most of the time. I’m unwilling to try that again. I can’t seem to find them available at Best Buy where I bought the TV. Any ideas?
Sorry if you have already answered this or I missed it, but can you make it change the brightness while in Art Mode? I don't want a bright illuminated 'picture' next to my other pictures.
Yes! That’s one of the things that makes it work so well vs just showing an image on a TV. You set a custom brightness and color temperature (to match room lighting) so that when it’s in art mode it dims and looks appropriate next to your other artwork. And it uses an ambient light sensor to adjust that automatically as lights brighten or dim in the room (though I find that feature could use a bit of tuning, when my lights are dimmed it doesn’t match my wall hung art of course).
What a gimmick, I brought this piece of crap back, very poor picture quality. DOES NOT look like a natural frame at all whatsoever, it's lit like a tv when the picture is on. I had thought they were using a static e ink when it was powered off. It runs on a stupid motion sensor so the tv turns on when you come in room to show art, it sucks.
I had just assumed they used some sort of color e-ink like how the kindle does. I mean for almost $600 it's a pretty poor quality tv with misleading advertising. They basically added a smart app to show art and are charging double.
I’m sorry to hear you thought it had eink, that would be frustrating. I’ve bought a few things and had that experience. I did this video because the marketing was so horrible that I thought this would help others understand how it actually worked before buying. The price for the screen quality is high, and it is something I mentioned because if you’re not looking for the art feature there are better frames. But the one thing it has that other TVs can’t compete with is the ability to dim the backlight and change its color temp. Did you work with those options when you got it? Out of the box it won’t look like artwork unless those are adjusted to meet the room lighting/light color initially. I’m working to simulate what the frame does using a raspberry pi, CEC and some other tech. But I’m finding that because my LG doesn’t have backlight brightness control (which is different than TV broghtness) I can’t get close to what I can do on my frame. That being said, and what I try to point out in my follow up video (because this one was never meant to be a review but really a tech breakdown) is that this isn’t for most people unless they’re looking to pay for the aesthetic. That being said, I haven’t found a better solution for the “look” that uses something like eink, is cheaper, etc. I’m hoping others jump into this arena though. I hadn’t considered eink but that sounds interesting!
Great video. All the promo and reviews and stuff I seen never mentioned or showed the one connect box which is annoying because I can't run that wire through my wall either lol I just need a TV and a power cable to connect to the wall outlet where the tv is mounted. I don't need anything else to connect to it because netflix, prime, disney, and youtube is all I use.
Yeah I am shocked at how many pro review sites were almost like marketing material. I just wanted to know how the thing worked and such and cool honey find the info. So I made this :) glad it helped!
I use an image resizer and then resize/crop the pictures to 16:9 at 4k resolution. I find that if you use an app and get it to be the proper resolution it looks the best on the frame and will take up less space.
I love everything about mine, except for one missing function that I absolutely can't stand! The ONLY way that I can figure out to enter Art Mode is to push the power button on the samsung remote. The fact that it can't enter Art Mode as a screensaver is beyond me as to why they wouldn't include that. Also, I exclusively use my Apple TV remote which works great, but again, doesn't allow me to enter Art Mode. I also have tons of home automation set up with smartthings, they allow you to turn your TV on and off, and even to switch picture mode automatically, but again....no love for Art Mode, and no way to enter it without physically picking up the samsung remote and pressing that one stupid button. For these reasons, Art Mode is rarely even on on my screen, as I use the Apple Remote for everything.
I wonder if smart things supports an IR blaster...that might work if the remote is indeed Ir. Someone mentioned it’s Bluetooth and if so that’d be tough to replicate. But an IR remote could be duplicated with an IR blaster system
Sold! I was on the fence about adding a tv to my office wall. Saw your very real, believable review which answered all my questions. I am getting one this week. BTW there are also 3rd party companies that make compatible frames just for Samsung (they even integrate the light sensor) The frames are more “real” ie wood , thicker multiple options etc. Thank you so much for the review!!
Thankyou!!! I’ll have to check out the third party ones that’s exciting to have more options! I did a follow up to this recently that shows off some stuff I discovered. Like I didn’t realize there is a full Remote Desktop solution and VNC built in, or a slideshow option for media on a thumb drive
65" The Frame LS03, Doesn't work as advertised, Samsung support is non existent. I've had a 3 month battle with Samsung support, they really are just robots who don't know anything about the products they are selling! they just hand you off to the next robot who reads the same trouble shooting cheat sheet. The TV won't even turn on, It failed while on a video call with Samsung, they witnessed it fail, and the tech support won't come out and repair it. When it did turn on The Motion sensor in Art mode does not work as advertised and when questioned about this the tech representative said we have to wait for other people to complain before we fix it! All in all a very disappointing experience. My advice is buy a different brand.
Thankyou, I am planning a followup and will see what I can do. I am not aware if there are ways to get photos onto the frame other than smartthings, but I'll investigate. If you know of any offhand please let me know
When you say highest do you mean the fastest it can do? in frame mode it can go down to I believe 5 minutes..I'll have to double check. but it does have a slideshow mode that is different (my follow video talks abou tthat). You can upload your personal artwork i they're on the same network only. If you're not on the same network you can't control it at all. I was dissapointed about that myself.
Thankyou! Yeah I got frustrated watching videos and basically hearing a spec sheet read off, drove me crazy. It's a unique TV with a lot of unique features that I think are worth explaining!
Can anyone tell me how much of your image is taken away by the matte? I have a Sony and display slide shows but obviously all are full frame. It also looks like there is a thin matte and a thicker option? I’m a photographer considering putting this in the studio … but curious how much of the image is lost
I may in the future. I am happy though that others watching this will know ahead of time about the cable. If I end up doing in wall speakers there then I’d rerun the conduit and such at the same time.
@@geektoolkit thanks for that I had to return my last TV as when the TV was on standby mode you could here a small high pitched noise from the back not sure if this was normal it was a Sony wkdl model so have put me of
@@MISSDELUCA oh no that'd suck. My wife is pretty sensitive to noise like that and I think she would've had me return it if she heard anything. Should be good to go (unless you're sensitive to frequencies her and I can't hear...anythings possible)
So full transparency..I've never owned an appleTV hub...but that being said, I believe so. The app that launched looked to me to be what people usually get with the hub, and the screen mirroring from my phone to the TV worked amazing (One of the reasons I considered getting a hub). That being said hopefully others that have had a hub and this app/tv can chime in with their thoughts to give a more accurate answer. For me, I REALLY wanted that mirroring functionality and it has been amazing at how seamless it's been
You’re right it’s not an ideal height by any means, but it’s how the house was designed. It’s the only wall a TV would make sense on in our downstairs, but much better suited for a piece of art. And the max size we could get was 65” to fit in there. We decided we’d go big in our media room and get a projector eventually, and for this room the frame ended up being a great alternative to have a screen when we needed it. I do find when I’m watching standing up while doing dishes from the adjoining kitchen that it’s a nice height though :)
Not a criticism of the video or mount, but I despise house designs that force TV up above fireplace. A well designed home would have flexibility of a wall that is well suited to a large panel television at a moderate height.
@@rolfvellek Oh I totally agree. The rest of the house made up for it luckily, and it had an epic bonus room that I got to make into a makerspace/gameroom/theater, so I picked my battles on that one :)
Great Choice Audio Video I hadn’t heard of them and just checked them out...amazingly cool! I think there’s a few problems though with this particular TV...this TV depends on a proprietary mount to make it flush with the wall....I believe that mount would make push it out and ruin the effect. Also this TV is not VESA compliant for mounting points...so you’d have to have an additional plate to adapt the holes. I think in the end unless you did a highly custom job I fear it wouldn’t work here
wow thats so great they made a wire so that instead of plugging the TV directly behind the TV in a recessed box, now there is a non-wall rated wire that you have to somehow have to hide. great idea
Definitely not ideal. The other thing I wish they didn't do was put huge ends on it...if it was HDMI sized then existing conduit would be fine, but it's about 3x that width on the wide end. I do wish they'd either done the work to make it in wall rated, provide an optional one that is in wall rated, or made the ends smaller. That being said, for those that don't have a box wired, it is realy convenient, and having the box off to the side makes hiding components MUCH easier I find. I'm hoping more manufacturers get into this style because I feel like it would then evolve into a perfect system.
Oh wow his videos are pretty amazing, I'd not watched them yet. Yeah if you got dumped onto my video after that, you ended up on a tech project channel where I got excited about the technology in the TV (and the concept) and was just sharing that on my channel...some people are taking it as a review (it wasn't meant to be). I hope that I was able to give some info about the TV that other channels typically don't have (which is why I made this, I struggled to get these answers when I was making my decision to get it....). That all being said I'll have to check out his channel a bit more, his cinematography and presentation is amazing!
One question is it is possible to fully disable the voice recognition? I hate the fact that smart TVs have alexa and google assistant built in these days, just because having an always on wiretap in my living room squicks me out, and using the remote works just fine for me. But thank you for this vid! I quite like the way the art effect looks outside of the perfect promo images, and "big black dark rectangle" was exactly the words my mum used when describing why she didn't like having the TV in a prominent location.
@@geektoolkit That's great to hear, and thanks again for the video! Told me all the things I needed to know but couldn't learn from seeing it in a store or reading online articles.
I absolutely detest tvs over the fireplace. We're building a house with lots of glass and won't really have a choice but to put the tv over the fireplace. Ugh. I did a search on how to hide a tv and found some companies that can make your tv look like a piece of artwork. It was all very cool but also very expensive. I asked our fireplace guy if he had seen any of the artwork tvs in action and he mentioned that Samsung makes one. And so, here I am watching your video. Thank you so much GeekToolkit, this is a great informative video!
Congrats on getting to build your own house that’s exciting!!! If you can wait they announced new ones at CES this week that are the 2021 models that’ll have more bezel options and are half as thick. Also if you can run 2” conduit behind it that’d take care of the one connect wire. I’m working on a follow up to this now actually with this info
Thank you @GeekToolkit, it IS exciting! We're doing a lot of the work ourselves which is exhausting but also very rewarding. I'll let my husband know about the 2" conduit (he knows how to do that stuff). Thanks again, looking forward to your follow up video!
i guess the 2019 model does not have Ambient mode and has just art mode. The other QLEDs from 7 series has Ambient mode and 2020 Frame has the ambient mode.
Right, thats what I've heard. The 2018 I believe also had it. I'm not sure why the 2019 doesn't...I learned about it right before posting this and there's a lot of disappointment about the 2019 not having it.
Hi Joe, have now mounted my Frame on the wall, and having used the supplied 6 large screws to affix the mounting bracket, I was surprised at the 4 tiny screws for fixing the bracket to the tv. I thought I must have missed something and would come down in the morning to find my very expensive tv lying, face down on the floor!
Yeah I felt the same at first. When my TV didn’t work initially I tried to take it off the wall though and couldn’t get it in hooked and put a lot of pressure on the screws...and they never budged. I also, after reading had only used 4. I have a feeling you’re in good shape with six in there!
Thankyou! I saw some with some fancy camera work and was nervous some geek in front of his TV wouldn't come off well, so I'm glad that the info I provided was valuable enough to overlook my lack of style. I watched other videos before making this and was intimidated. The way this video blew up is amazing
Thanks! I at the time wasn't meaning it as a review, and was just trying to talk about some cool tech. Also it was still really new. I made a followup which I just uploaded last week that talks about stuff I learned 8 months later. The short version is the 2020 version had features that I wish I'd waited for. That being said, I love the TV and don't plan on upgrading for quite a while.
Hi, I’ve just bought the 65inch model of the tv and have so far only looked through the manual. The manual states that the 65inch model doesn't come with mounting adaptors. Before I inbox everything, this model definitely does come with the flush wall mount, right? According to the box it has one, I'm just unsure what the lack of mounting adapters has in the way of mounting it to a flush wall, if any. I'd appreciate any advise, please. Thanks in advance!
Thanks for letting me know! Mine is a 2020 and it looks as though they still use the centre wall mount, so I’m hoping one is included. Apparently the 2021 model has moved to a two bracket approach, so that’s a slightly different mounting process. I’ll write back once I unbox it and attempt to wall mount it tomorrow as to whether the flush wall mount is indeed included, or not. It may help other people who are wondering the same thing. 👍🏻
I bought this tv yesterday but have to wait for shipment. They didnt provide the option for the 2019 model. I really only bought this one particularly because the way houses are built in Las Vegas NV are a Sh%t show. The front room where the front door opens up is supposed to be the living room yet it is rectangle and in order to function i need to place a tv on the wall right next to the front door. It makes me cringe knowing every time someone walks into my house they will be greeted with a TV immediately. Otherwise id have to put a tv on the far end of the room and in order to watch it, you would need like a huge tv plus positioning yourself awkwardly on the couch. So i opted for this so hopefully it looks more like artwork vs a tv upon first glance and not seem that out of place vs a big tv on the wall. I dont like smart electronics and the only feature that i care about smart mode wise is the picture frame. I will be hooking my playstation up to it and dont plan on using any of the smart features or apps. In reality after making this purchase i have realized my playstation could do a similar function as i recall making a photo slide show on my playstation to play during the reception at my wedding. But i digress. I havent bought a tv since 2009 so we purchased this. Thanks for the video! I get the tv delivered on Thursday so well see how it goes.
Cool!! Yeah our house has an odd home design as well, it is as if they didn’t think a TV belonged in a living room. The PlayStation (and evening a chrome cast) can do slideshows and such, but the “one wire” design and flush mount, as well as being able to match bezels...is unique to this as far as making the TV hidden.
GeekToolkit yes the house layout in Vegas is definitely different from my house we own in Tn. In TN the fireplace is the center of the room and it has built in outlet and studs to hang the tv above the mantle. Here its like the whole layout was an after thought 😂. Tv was delivered today and Husband is hanging it tomorrow. Regarding the PLaystation i really didnt remember that function until i was watching your video and you mentioned having to pay for pictures. I agree with the flush mount and picture frame. I just want to get past the initial glance at the tv. I dont want it to be in your face that its a tv when I open the front door. Im excited to try it out this weekend. We havent had a tv in our living room that functions since we moved in last Dec! I really appreciate all the info because no one at Best Buy told us a thing about this tv. I had no idea the wire wasnt wall rated or the pay for pics. I wish i would have found your video prior to purchase but i think i still would have bought the tv. Good to gift ourselves some time. Have a happy 4th!
I haven’t been able to find it in a color (it came on a clear color for mine) There is a white one for sale that I’ve found but it’s for the 2017 model. It’s kind of clear and I honestly don’t notice it unless I look for it.
I dont know if there are any...can you use the phone smarthome app? If not i'd order another remote, this tv doesn't have many buttons to control it and certainly not enough to make it highly usable without a remote.
This is some REALLY good info, dude. Thanks so much. I love specifically how you talk about the cable; the end thicknesses and how much you can bend it -- that's exactly what I needed to know and nobody ever discusses these things!
Glad that helped! Yeah I didn't see anyone mention that, so when I got the TV and couldn't use my existing conduit I thought 'this needs to go into a video'. So many things about this TV were just way too hard to find out!
@@geektoolkit Great informative video. Are you saying you can do an in wall install through an exterior wall as long as you are feeding it through a conduit? Does it have to be a special conduit?
Thankyou! From what I’ve read it just has to be “in wall rated” conduit. I’m not an installer so I can’t speak beyond that sadly. But yes if it’s run through in wall conduit then it’s “to code”.
@@geektoolkit Thank you, I'll make sure the electrician does this. I don't have the TV yet, any idea what the Interior diameter of the conduit should be?
Hi Geek, do you still have to buy the frame separately, even if you're opting for a black frame? Is the default frame it comes with not enough? Thanks!
That’s a great question…the default black frame is pretty convincing if you don’t mind black, but it’s different than the overlay ones. We rocked the black frame for a while before deciding to get the white one. It was fine and looks good. The upgrade to the actual frame border did look better IMO
