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The main issue with these "franchises" is that they all just PG-13 brain-diarrhea....no wonder it will flop! I can understand if Disney would roll in this area....BUT all the other studios could have done better!
The problem with Rey's heritage was that so much time was wasted on the "mystery" of who she is. From Luke's light saber calling out specifically to her, to deliberate not so subtle hints that there is more to her that meets the eye, it was naturally a head scratcher when all of that was casually tossed aside and she was revealed to be absolutely nobody. Now, I have no issues whatsoever with Rey having no special lineage. But if that was the route you wanted to take with her, then you should have established that from the very beginning of the series. All that time wasted on the "mystery box" of her lineage could have instead been spent developing her as her own character.
I actually had no problem with her ultimately being a nobody. But Rian Johnson should have been on the same page as JJ Abrams. The biggest problem with the sequels was the fact that there was not a coherent story arc prior to filming
@samuelwallace2782 there was a story arc which all three directors knew. RJ knew what JJ was doing and requested him to send R2-D2 with Rey so he could meet Luke again. JJ knew what RJ was filming and actually asked to direct the screenplay because he loved it. Colin Trevorrow knew what RJ was doing and asked him to film a scene to lead into his planned film, which again, RJ and JJ knew and had read the script for. JJ is worse than George Lucas for changing his mind about things and so made a massive U turn. He's not a brave storyteller, which is why he drops so many mystery boxes and leaves them for others to figure out.
@cal5754 I genuinely don't believe that. Reys heritage matters, no it doesn't, oh wait, yes it does. Snoke is important, wait, just kidding. The knights of Ren... don't matter. The lightsaber... well it came from somewhere, but we don't have time to explain because there's a crucial scene where the characters ride horse cats through a casino to fight Capitalism (no, they don't free the child slaves). Finally, the story of a black stormtrooper, uh oh, Chinese audiences didn't approve. They can try to save face all they want. It's bs
I was hoping Rey would be a nobody to get away from legacies and such, but I knew deep down Disney would find a way to make her a princess...I'm just surprised they made her an empress.
@@couchslouch3540lolol nooooo not even close. What happened to truly adapting flashpoint aspect, all the “confirmed” cameos, the cut sense, the specifics of Ezras shenanigans, all the directors/writers that came and went, and so much more. Sounds like you yourself would need to watch it when it came out😅😂🤷🏽♂️
@@ayelemensah8816exactly! How and why did it end up like that? Even thought the director claims he purposely made the end of the movie that way, with WB’s history of butting in and modifying things, I highly doubt it
Yea, Miller's crimes are just the serious part, @@couchslouch3540 The film itself is just a mess in so many respects. I'll always find something to like about reviled cinema. In this case I didn't find much. I advocate consistent continuity. Multiverse stories sidestep the associated problems neatly in large part, so Flash screenwriters had it easy in that sense. They still found ways to obliterate story logic in pointless fashion. Others will tell you about the juvenile mis-characterization of Barry Allen, the wasted potential of the Michael Keaton comeback, the deliberately off-looking special effects, and the list just goes on.
Two factors made Kahn a standout villain in the Star Trek movie with the original series actors. 1) He was played by Ricardo Mantoban, and 2) The character was in the original series in an episode, so the movie was a continuation from the movie directly.
Most people haven't seen Space Seed so unless you were a fan back in the 80's it didn't hit like it should have. It just ended up being a really good movie and it brought interest back to the original series.
I have been watching their vids almost every day for a couple years now. Everything has become too corporate. They have sacrificed quality just to hit that 2 vids per day per channel. No more theme music. No more signoffs (except Jules). Rehashing same ideas just with a different name.
Taika Waititi had one clear mission with "Thor: Love And Thunder" and he scored a 10/10. Make sure no one involved with the MCU ever asks him to work with them again. That film felt like a serious "FU" to the studio and the fans. It seems almost impossible that the same director of "Thor: Ragnarok" (and "JoJo Rabbit") made that atrocity.
I didn’t mind the plot itself. There was too much humor injected at inappropriate times so that it became annoying. The screaming goat thing is very funny but the third or fourth time in a row?
Top Phase 4: • WandaVision • The Falcon and the Winter Soldier • Loki season 1 • What If...? • Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings • Hawkeye • Spider-Man: No Way Home • Moon Knight • Black Panther: Wakanda Forever • The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special Top phase 5: • oki season 2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 • What If...? season 2 • Echo • Deadpool 3 (highly anticipated that I will enjoy).
I'm gonna bet it's a pure volume vs. quality thing. These guys are cranking out so much content that mistakes are slipping through, especially if anyone is wearing down. Been there, done that. The fix is rest and refocus. Good luck finding time for that.
I liked all of the movies you mentioned, even Rebel moon although it probably wont be cult classics. Remeber that they are movies, enjoy the fantasy and the suspension of disbelief. This type of critiquing says more about the critic than the movie...
Yeah, The Flash absolutely did NOT do right by the fans. They stuck with a PDF File freak, the CGI was on par with a mid 90s made for TV movie, every cameo was nothing short of pointless, and they completely did 1989 Batman dirty, after fans had been waiting 32 years to see Michael Keaton play the part again. The only good part about that movie was after it was over.
Jane was the only good thing in "Thor: Love & Thunder". They really should've spent more time fleshing her character out and having her ponder what the hell is happening. Apparently, the director didn't have faith in Natalie Portman's ability to hold an audience which is sad because she does that quite well.
I indeed would have preferred the Movie focus on Jane and Gorr, and I don't mind they kept Gorr's choice towards the end. The source Gorr lost his way, or maybe never had any redeeming value and became a hypocrite while the movie one kept his love. 2 mortals who found both internal strength to match.
At 6:29 :"In This Case, Thor Ragnarok, which released just a few weeks prior to Justice League. in this case, In This Case, Thor Ragnarok, which released just a few weeks prior to Justice League" bit of a stutter have we? I also didn't like Ezra Miller's Idea of Flash running. Dude isn't running looks like he's speed skating LOL! He should have studied sprinters in track and field events for a better look at fast running.
Which one of these "did right by the fans"? These were all just examples of attempts to do things that were just terrible. Even saything they pissed off fans is a stretch, most people just went "we didn't need this" and moved on.
I enjoyed Love and Thunder more than expected. I liked Bale's portrayal as Gor but it could have been better than the final cut. More Bale, more Portman and I would love the film
My favorite latter phase(s) MCU movie is Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, a roller coaster of filling my heart with joy and laughter and then ripping it out and stomping on it. The Marvels had my favorite scene with the flerkens eating the space station crew in order to transport them all to Earth, but one amazing scene couldn't keep up with the entirety of Vol. 3.
If "picking at a bleeding scab" was a youtube video. Um, 10/10 for emotionally bringing me to the table. 1/10 for the emotion it brought. Not sure any of these "did right by the fans", but wow. The emotion was real. Good Job... question mark?
Marvel Phase 4: Lesse Spiderman No Way Home was by far the best movie from that, the rest ehhh not so much. I didn't mind Dr. Strange, but it could have been better, Black Widow should have been back in phase 3 or 2 or something and felt very out of place considering she's dead, Shang Chi was ok but nothing special, Eternals sucked hard, Black Panther tried to tell a story we didn't need, and I still can't get over the jealous Axe in Thor 4, which you can't tell me is part of the source material.
The flash cameos really made me wonder who is in charge at Warner Bros. After watching Avengers built up from 5 previous movies they decided to jump straight into Batman V Superman. then they saw Spiderman bring 5 previous movies from 2 franchises together and decided to take the exact same shortcuts again.
this effectively ended their chance to just have a relaunch of Michael Keaton's batman in a movie that actually stars batman as the main character. Their choice to rush forward with half baked ideas is removing lucrative opportunities from themselves in the future. This is why I no longer look forward to movie adaptations of my favorite franchises. I know they will not be done correctly and that will inevitably delay a proper adaptation by decades or outright kill it due to perceived lack of interest.
A couple of these are due to listening to certain fans, not all of them. Star Wars for instance was a pointless course correct because certain fans pitched a fit over the The Last Jedi and Carrie Fisher passing away as she was supposed to be a bigger focus in the last movie. I still think the DCEU had a lot of potential, but instead of doing their own thing and building it up, they tried to be like Marvel. They ignored the fact that the universes are different and they ignored how many other movies Marvel released to get to where they were. DC tried to do the same in a fraction of the time. Thor Love and Thunder I feel suffered from one the biggest issues that will always be there when adapting a story from a different medium. It's always hard to do it justice in the limited timeframe. To really explore Jane as Thor would have taken it's own movie at the very least. But Marvel has gotten in the habit of trying to rush stories as well which is why a lot of what they are releasing isn't being received well.
Not really about the fans, hence the single quotes around that phrase in the video title. The problem is poor writing. All of Hollywood has been suffering from uni-directional political hiring of writers (and often directors) that don't care about the shows they are assigned. And don't seem very good at writing in the first place. They just like messages. They should be writing protest signs, not movies.
Honestly Jurassic world felt like the sequel trilogy ie first movie was well received but highly derivative second movie had weird twists and turns and wasnt well received.....and finally the third movie trying to hammer together nostalgia bait plus plot points hammered in that felt forced and out of place even right down to bringing back a beloved/well known villain palpatine and Lewis Dodson and pretending like it was always intended to be there ......
I don't remember anyone asking them to bring back the original cast of Jurassic park. All they wanted was for there to be some semblance of a plot and maybe a more likable heroin. Who wants to root for the park manager that refused to close the park, leading to dozens of avoidable patron deaths.
They should have done the Flashpoint Paradox as a live action movie,they already took from that story with Super girl switched with what happened to Clark in that alternate time line
Always felt Spider-Man 3 should have introduced the symbiote suit and played out with Peter nearly succumbing to it, but ultimately deciding to reject it, and ended with Brock getting the suit. Leaving Spider-Man 4 open to focus on the Venom saga. Sandman is the heart of soul of Spider-Man 3 and should've been the main focus, with the Harry Goblin serving as the subplot. Venom's presence just muddies the waters and feels tacked on and forced...Because it was. Lol
Zack Snyder needs to make films more like the John Wick series, Mad Max Fury Road and Furiosa. Movies where there isn't much dialogue and it's all just long elaborate action scenes.
I literally thought my iPad was glitching, “in this case”, yes…..”in this case” huh? “In this case” Is this live?? This happened before either on here WC or WCH, repeating themselves & I caught it. Puts a lil jizzle fa sizzle to the videos I guess 🥴
I'm not saying WC have always pumped out low-effort vids with no care whatsoever... but... this is a shining example of it. No take two for the VO? Nahhh... too much effort. Checking the audio first? Nahhhh... why would we do that? Editing or even checking the content... WHAT IS THIS!?
Thor: Love and Thunder took a lot of heat for being tonally conflicting but I'm not sure the death of Jane could have been approached realistically in a single movie any better. The images and music are meant to capture the pathos that are otherwise fleshed out in longer storytelling. While not as excellent as Ragnarok, that is a nearly impossible task to try to follow. Given the difficulty of seamlessly blending two outstanding comic runs in a single flick(which is the only mistake I think actually committed), love and Thunder was surprisingly effective given the monumental task.
MCU stage 4&5- I honestly dont care if Ever see another title involving any of the Avengers ever again. Massive Avengers fatigue. It was what 24 movies,give it a rest already,bring on the x-men!!!
I'm sorry, but the notion that there was any planning involved with Rise of Skywalker -poor or otherwise- seems like a rather flawed assessment of the film.
At this point I believe WC is trolling us with the shitty editing and sudden end to the vids. Come on guys put in a little effort because the content is top notch.
My favorite post Endgame film is No Way Home. Then Guardians 3. After that, the Marvels. I thought Captain Marvel was boring, but I find Kamala too adorable and she made that film worth it for me. Then it would be Black Widow. I didn't like any of the others. I really hated Dr Strange MoM. Such a disappointment. I was so excited for it, but it sucked. And Thor: Love and Thunder was annoying. Especially the goat. It wasn't funny the first time it happened, because that stupid clip was memed so much, but it was even less funny the other 200 times it happened.
I’m confused by the intended theme now. Yes, all of these films pissed off the fans, but none of them “did the right by the fans”. Doing right by the fans implies that they honored the fans’ wishes, canonically or in another notable way, in spite of an inherently negative consequence. Nope. Nothing to see here. As such, it was simply 10 films that ‘PO’ed the fans. Period. I feel as if this piece is an extract of another longer and, possibly, better edited video.
My favorite *movie* of phase 4-5 would be Black Widow. Favorite TV show of phase 4-5 is WandaVision. But regarding Thor Love and Thunder, I have to give Natalie Portman approbation for her physical transformation for the role, and I thought she did a good job with role, too. Despite internet hate, she was not the problem with that movie.
I don't understand the hate directed at Thor Love and Thunder. It was basically Ragnarok 2.0. The writing and campy humor is the exact same style as Ragnarok.
idk if i agree with the idea that butchering a zack synder project by giving it a "lighter tone" qualifies as "doing right by the fans." and by "idk if i agree" i mean "there's no way in hell it could be considered doing right by anyone"
@@SpiderMonkey20s Jules still does, mostly. But he is the only one who even bothers to do a sign off. Also, none of them use the opening theme music anymore Feels pretty lazy these days
I want to see "Thor" cuz I thought it was something from the Norse mythology not from a comic book. Even though I enjoyed it I didn't see the follow-ups. I want to see "X-Men" because of Hugh Jackman. I like to twirl enough but the second film lost me and I never watched anything further. I have seen most of the Batman movies but I only really liked the ones with Val Kilmer and Michael Keaton. I wouldn't even know what films are the 4th and 5th phase of MC movies. I don't even know if some other films that may have been based on comics that I saw are MC, DC or AC/DC. Is "Deadpool" one of them? I found it very entertaining. For one film.
I'm not sure you are correctly articulating "did right by fans". The impression is that something was offered that fans wanted but it failed. In most cases, I'd suggest fans did NOT want was presented. Rebel Moon was the most obvious example as most of us didn't need two movies for that let alone the idea that there are extended cuts and sequels to come. At some point people will credit Snyder with making an excellent zombie movie (Dawn of the Dead) and good graphic novel adaptations (300, Watchmen) but when he started to create his own visions, the quality dropped drastically (almost every other film). While I didn't dislike the theatrical release of JLA, I don't find the Snyder cut all that more appealing. Considering they gave him almost the same budget again plus many more months to film and allowed him to make a longer movie (all things they withheld from Whedon), he just made a longer, duller version. I suspect the same could be said of Taika Waititi who took a well-loved superhero with a rich background and destroyed almost everything that made Thor important and interesting. It says something when the Thor in the Avengers Assemble cartoon series is a better adaptation than what we saw in the two Waititi movies.
I'll be impressed by the Fast series when they bring back Paul Walker. Also, everything about Rebel Moon was unnecessary. No one asked for or needed a Star Wars rip off, especially with Disney milking the hell out of that franchise. And then to make 2 of them?? Really getting some Morbius energy with these 'Snyder cut' releases so soon after. Plus, Zack, c'mon buddy. They were Netflix movies. You can release them as long, dark, and violent as you want the first time. You could have even been the first dude to just release an 8 hour slog through slow motion violence, and explosions just to see who would sit through that kind of nonsense for so long to at least have that attached to it. But this was honestly nothing.
