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"Gregory Helms pretended he was a superhero." You say that as if it was bad, and that he wasn't one of the most over guys on the roster with that gimmick.
the gimmick, the Titantron opening, the promos, Mighty Molly. hurricane Helms is one of my all-time favorite gimmicks. just like the new day, he had fun with it and fans could see it.
Now I'm not hating on the US (I love the country) or hating on Andrew (he's a good guy with potential) but please leave this to the more charismatic people like Adam
+Wesley Webb calm down lad, he made it clear it wasn't because Andrew isnt a brit. But a brit, Adam is better than Andrew. Then again Adam is probably the most charismatic person on RU-vid
Yeah I mean shane helms is still competing as the hurricane how many low card wrestlers from the early 2000s can say that they still use the same gimmick and still be over with the fans
James Lacey yeah, it became all about Randy Orton while Ted and Cody were just lackeys. At least they got to beat DX at Breaking Point, so that's something
I would agree that the legacy break up killed Ted's career, but Cody still did well on his own for a while. A 2 time IC champ(and the reason the belt looks the way it does now) as well as a cumulative 6 time tag champ.
nah. If they are going to make anyone Sister Abigail it should be Lisa Moretti (Ivory) or Jackie Moore. 2 Bad A$$ ladies who gave Bray some tough love when he was growing. totally credible and a blast from the past
Aces and Eights wasn't all bad really. Though once Bully Ray won the title, their ideas became meaningless. Great story for a stable at the start, but weak end to it.
Very true and Imo the build up was really good to me it was like they builded it up to the perfect point between going on to long and being just right on top of that they would kick everyones ass I think they really overlooked that the TNA roster put together a few teams to stop Aces and Eights and they would fail
The Brood had so much potential. Edge and Christian could've held the tag titles with Gangrel had either the European or IC title. They could've been huge, especially in The Ministry
They were over for about a year - then they got brought in by The Ministry of Darkness and got kicked out of the faction after only a few months and Gangrel formed The New Brood with the Hardy Boyz who proceeded to dump Gangrel in favour of Michael "P.S." Hayes, and then David Heath (AKA Gangrel) was released early in 2000, then the Brood angle was immediately killed off when the Hardy Boyz dumped Hayes and took Terri Runnels on as their manager. All that in the space of two years. Yes, TWO YEARS. That's how long the faction was around for.
Same here, he was made to look like someone who was gonna be a main event star when he debuted with the nexus with them having Gabriel hit the splash at the end of whoever the stable had battered which had him come across as a killer. Shame they didn't continue to book him consistently after a while
"Believe it or not tna had a cool stable" they had several actually. Main event mafia was great and so was the feud they started with until they pushed the dudleys,and rhino instead of the young guys that started the feud. World elite started out strong and could've been big but hogan and Bischoff dissolved it on Jan 4 2010 because reasons. And fourtunebas seen above.
The Ruthless Roundtable from the dying days of WWE's version of ECW was a great faction that didn't get as much credit as I think they should have. William Regal mentoring Ezekiel Jackson and Vladimir Koslov into being the best monster heels they could be wasn't exactly revolutionary, but it did give everyone else on the roster a big threat to keep in the back of their minds. All three guys could work any spot on the card, which they did excellently. Too bad ECW was so darn small that most fans didn't care to check the Roundtable out; maybe it would've worked better in something like today's NXT?
So in one entry you're bashing Dixie Carter for putting new talent over existing TNA talent, and in the very next entry you call out Vince Mcmahon for putting his existing talent over incoming WCW wrestlers. I don't think you can have it both ways
Strictly Better MtG I'm sleepy so if I got this wrong somehow my bad, but I think the idea is that the faction itself was wasted because of the opposite actions. There's a middle ground.
In the case of Fortune, they were beat by old ECW talent that was brought in just for the storyline. In the case of The Radicals, they were young talent brought in to be part of the main roster but were seemingly punished for having been part of the WCW roster first. That being said, half of the Radicals went on to become World Champions.
One of my personal favourite stables has to be The Flood, from Chikara. Why? Because they basically consisted of every single heel, and in particular every single main villain the company had seen pretty much since its inception (or at least all the ones who hadn't face-turned at that time). The Odditorium, the Devastation Corporation, the BDK, the GEKIDO, Condor Security, the Swarm, the Colony Xtreme Force, the Wrecking Crew, and a scattering of other villains, who had been wiping out and forcibly shutting down smaller companies all over Philadelphia all year and were now going after Chikara, led by a hulking behemoth of a man called Deucalion, who was a badass. But what made them really threatening wasn't just that it was a huge army of 31 heels, but that they weren't afraid to KILL (in kayfabe anyway) to get their way. 6 wrestlers were 'killed' throughout their storyline, and a few of them have actually stayed dead as well! They tormented Chikara for about 2 years, and their effects are still being felt today. Badass!
More like, they WERE shit. They lost to The Apple, which was Santino, Kozolv, Carlito (as a face), and Chris Masters, before all but Santino were released!
The invasion still hurts so much. I can't even watch mania x-7 because when stone cold turns heel it just makes me think about the impending invasion and I just start crying and it won't stop and then I cry more because I'm sobbing over a sixteen-year-old wrestling angle. I'm 32 years old. I have spent half of my life unsuccessfully getting over the invasion.
It's not hypocrisy, Dixie Carter's idea was bad because the WWE/ECW guys were a temporary sign that she put over guys who'd been with the company for long term and the company was( or should've been ) invested in Vince should've put over some of the WCW guys or at least have them beaten in a respectable manner because they were long term investments for the company.
Serotonin from TNA had potential. Another possible Raven's Flock situation got flushed down the drain and the payoff to the whole thing was in an untelevised match for the internet. Great work again, Dixie.
4:56 The original faction of every member holding a title, Benoit as Intercontinental Champion, Eddie as European Champion, Malenko as Light Heavyweight Champion, and Saturn as Hardcore Champion (for just a few seconds)
the invasion angle of 2001 will always be my favorite year in wrestling. I agree with the man, the company should've made them legitimate threats and wrestlers when they first arrived to wwe/f
Problem with the Alliance vs WWF fued/storyline was that the amount of fueds were changed on the fly. I mean we had - Rock vs Booker T which Rock completely buried Booker in that fued, Taker had the fued/storyline with DDP which went nowhere especially the fact that they finished it at Summerslam and they had the tacky Austin vs Angle fued which never made any sense because we saw Angle join the WCW/ECW alliance a few months later. I do remember reading the original plans that it was supposed to have been The Rock vs DDP, Undertaker vs Booker T for the WCW title and Austin vs Jericho for the WWF title but of course, Vince wanted to spoil it as much as possible and gave DDP the "stalker" gimmick, Booker T being buried by The Rock on Smackdown - "Who in the blue hell are you!?" and Jericho was relegated to fueding with Stephanie McMahon's goons.
the league of nations could of been huge if they were pushed right battle for all titles could of been solid for at least a year and have a rivalry with just usa superstars!
I don't know if putting the SES as the image for "Most WASTED stables" was intentional or not, but still brilliant! BTW, I vote for Sabu & RVD, and the Wolfpac.
man i love wade/king/bad news barrett and see the corre and the nexus almost make me cry especialy the nexus,man that was he's ticket to the main event,real shame
Forgot Right To Censor. The FCC gimmick was terrible, their entrance theme was fucking cancer (Those alarm noises still haunt me to this day), the fact that Stevie Richards was the leader, and worst of all...having The Godfather join them and becoming The Goodfather!
For me attitude era end the day that stable came to be. Just an awful idea, and yes I know that it was parody. And yes that music was god awful, even worst hearing it live in person.
When RTC started WWF had managed to get away with some stuff probably due to political friends, while both ECW and WCW were in deep trouble with the FCC. Mostly because of backyarders setting fire to each other mirroring Vampiro and because ECW was well ECW. It was a 'Ha you're in the shot but we are and we can take the piss'
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The problem with this guy is that he sticks out like a sore thumb _and_ doesnt really make humorous videos. He doesnt have the charm or smarkiness the others have.
Check out Dudes With Attitudes from WCW. Sting formed a stable to battle the evil 4 Horseman. It had JYD, Orndorff, Steiners, Pillman, Luger...Yet the stable didn't last a year :(
4:42 The Radicalz were supposed to win the tag team match against the New Age Outlaws but Eddie got hurt and they had to cut it short. Shame a video on "totally wasted wrestling factions" didn't include a faction lead by RVD.
Whoa ! The Radicals in WWE and The Fortune in tna are so similar. WWE chose their own talent to go over outside talent while tna chose outside talent to go over their own.
7:02 Nexus died for me when they got rid of Tarver, that one month before then (without Ryback and Darren) was the best Nexus to me, especially the entrance with Barrett standing in the middle of the ring as Otunga, Tarver, Slater, and Gabriel each stood on a turnbuckle in each corner
I agree with th for the most part, list but you got one thing wrong about the Radicals. They weren't booked to lose three straight matches on Smackdown. Eddie Guerrero and Perry Saturn were supposed to beat the New Age Outlaws. But Eddie dislocated his elbow, landing wrong on the frog splash. He was pinned to end the match early.
The Nexus was a great concept: a bunch of pissed off rookies who weren't waiting their turn to "make it" to the main roster so they invaded it instead. The first night they did that it was good but WWE decided to completely bury the entire thing by making them look like absolute buffoons in favor of square jawed superhero Cena. Every episode of Raw was like watching a cartoon where the villains would get outsmarted and embarrassed. They might as well have shook their fists at end of Raw and said "YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS CENA"
I just thought of something awesome. What if he made raw just WWE superstars and have one of his guys be GM , Tuesday would be just ECW superstars and put Paul Heyman as GM , and Friday be just WCW superstars and have Eric Bishoff as GM and slowly merge them as people quit, got fired, and retired
I think to be fair to The Radicals Benoit and Guerrero did go on to win the World Championship/WWE Championship. Although Malenko only had 2-3 years left S an active wrestler, and Saturn freaked out on an episode of Heat over a botched move and was therefore punished by being given the moppy gimmick.
Dixieland aka Dixie Carter's heel stable, the Matt Hardy brand stable, The Rising (Drew Galloway's stable) and the Beat Down Clan was clearly left out.
How about Sgt. Slaughter's Cobra Corp from the 1980s. A marine named Terry Daniels was named the "first inductee" into the corp. He tagged with the sarge and wrestled single for a short time but only beat jobbers. Nobody else was "inducted" and Cobra Corp was quickly forgotten.
New day should be on here, they recently broke the record for the most days of having the tag team championship, it's crazy to they had 2 matches in 1 night
So wait a minute. You shit on Dixie for letting 5 guys from WWE come into her company and go over her guys but then in the very next breath crap on Vince for NOT letting the Radicalz, who came from WCW when they were still in business, go over his guys? HUH?
DDP being motivational speaker was not just a gimmick. He was motivational speaker in real life, too. Even back when he was in WCW, he was already doing it.
The Radicalz was a combination between 4 of the best in ring pergormers and technical masterpieces to ever step foot in a wrestling ring !! And still Vince screwed them
Great list! Lol Totally agree with League of Nations, Barrett should've done the mic work cause he's great on it but he couldn't be the leader cause he wasn't a former WWE Champ. Funny how they each got their own shirt and disbanded soon thereafter. I remember how let down I was with the Radicalz. That was a big disappointment. The Alliance of course was just a total mishandled bust.
I'd like to sit in on some of these creative meetings and see where they go wrong. I know that it's easy to judge after we've seen the results but how many times do you have to mess up before you learn?
What about the "Union"? It was a counter stable to the corporation back in WWF (I mean E) 's attitude era. They were literally around for like 1 week, but somehow got their music on one of the 64 games (either no mercy or wrestlemania 2000, can't remember). It had Mic Foley and a couple other faces in it. Oh, and the Corporate Ministry. I'll stop right there...
The New breed. In 07 wwECW had a solid faction in Elijah Burke, Kevin Thorn, Marcus "Monty Brown" Cor Von & Matt Striker. What happened? They jobbed out to CM Punk & the ECW vets and none of them won a single once of championship gold.
The Alliance angle had all the potential of a bad ass angle but unfortunately, WWE killed it way too quickly. I mean, the very next day that the Alliance was disbanded, Ric Flair shows up. 2 months later, the N.W.O shows up. Bischoff came in not long after. Triple H returned, HBK returned, Brock Lesnar errupted and so on. Imagine how big this thing could've been had they waited just a little longer.
CM Punk had not held the WWE title, Post SES he did the nexus angle and eventually dropped the pipebomb leading him to the first wwe title victory.. you had one job andrew..god damnit!
I attended the match where aces and eights was unmasked and it was an amazing show and great story tailing much better than what we’ve dealt with in the wwe for awhile
