With regards to standing on the pegs to allow the suspension to do what it is supposed to, I just "discovered" myself that if I do the same (on my big sport tourer bike), lifting my butt slightly off the saddle, when riding the many cobble-stoned avenues in Paris the bike handles SO much better, and I have far more control over it. It was like a revelation.
Skill is an undeniable factor. However, keep in mind that the regular roads don't even provide half of the grip these tracks do. Also these motorbikes are probably about 70% better in every aspect than your own. Don't try these on the streets you will crash. Don't envy the rider next to you that pulls the throttle harder and dives into the corner. He risks more and even if he passes you, he truly doesn't win anything. Enjoy your ride and live to tell about it ✌️
Public roads arent' design in a way like track. Different grade of asphalt is used than the track. Tracks are better than whatever roads we have here in America (that is if you are an American)
It’s a skill thing. As long as you don’t outride your vision there’s no reason you should have an issue. Admitted if a deer launches itself like a missile from the bushes there isn’t much you can do but that’s life. In general these skills will allow you to comfortably carve up any road, first time, with gravel. Just never outride your vision.
@nealadams7946 People say that but a lot of tracks are trash. Patchy and have seems all over the place. Of course there are tracks that have excellent surfaces but some tracks are hardly an improvement from the road. They just provide a controlled environment for when things go wrong. It's also important to know your roads. Dips, humps, cracks, seams, paint, collections of sand, debris in the road, etc. But yeah it's generally safer to stay on a track as most people will make mistakes while learning and pushing their machine.
Look forward to these videos whenever they come out. In the last couple months my riding has greatly improved because of you. I was able to hang with and pass a more experienced rider the other day which would have never happened before!
I asked this weekend at the track why I should weigh down the outside peg (leg out style in supermoto). Nobody could answer but every said I should do it. Now you've finally answered my question! Thank you!
Very good explanation. In unlimited documentaries about marc marquez. Cal cruthlow said in order to adapt with powerful new engine 2019 bike. Marc used rear brake more. And nobody can ride like marc. Quartararo also said that marc can ride agresively but also smooth with absolute perfection. I ride a bike since even before i had a licence. But the most terrifying for me is the braking. After several times had an accident with the front wheel, now i have little faith on my front brake. Amazing to see a motogp rider have the same mentality even with so many crash.
The real question is, how can I get my hands on one of these bikes so I can practice? My "procedural memory" needs some forming. Thanks for the lesson on human psychology
When Kevin Schwantz ran a riding school he taught weighting the outside peg using a trials bike example of traversing a hillside. The only way to do that is by weighting the outside peg to drive the tire into the hillside. At that time another prominent riding school in the US taught riders to weight the inside peg. 2 years later I asked Mat Mladin about the inside peg technique and he drew me a picture to explain the advantage of weighting the outside/highside peg. I turned the picture 90 degrees and Mladin's track surface became Schwantz's hillside. But neither Toni Alias nor Jonathan Rea appear to weight the outside.
Mike. Could you do an analysis of Alex Rins particular riding position? I saw him this weekend and previous one again, and noticed his weird riding position, straighter back than the rest. At first I thought he was taller than the other MotoGP riders and that intrigued me being 6'3" myslef, but then I noticed his height is pretty average compared to the rest of the grid. Love your stuff by the way. Frankie
These techniques are natural for dirt bike racers. I transitioned to road bikes after riding dirt since I could walk, and I watched this vid hoping for some tips, only to think “hey I already do that”. Lol. Not boasting, just saying that if you want to get better......then practice on dirt bikes! Definitely noticed a lot more of the MotoGP pros practicing on dirt, more and more over the past decades. BIKES ARE AWESOME ♥️♥️♥️
My advice is that doing it while you are still young.I love racing when i first got my licence.Now i prefer to stay safe.But sometimes at traffic light junction i still prefer to come out first ....and always loves to overtake at sharp corners too!😁😁
Here at one of our local tracks 2 corners have a dip that goes across the track. This dip upsets everyone who is too stiff on the bike. I do exactly what was said in the video. Relax, and very so slightly lift my bum from the seat and allow the bike to go over the dip and bump smoothly.
I have a Yamaha 125cc gearless scooter and, to my surprise, the techniques being mentioned in the video is also applicable to my scooter. Yet, very limited ofcourse.
Hello , I really like your videos ; they are informative. I disagree that using rear brakes whilst accelerating out of corners will force more weight to transfer to rear, all it will do is slow you down. If you apply a little brake whilst accelerating out of corner the resulting energy is in pushing the bike forward hence the brake is pointless. It's a good technique for bikes with no traction control
There's some good points, but the explanations only hit the wave tops of the values for these functions. For example, weighting pegs/ or standing on pegs as a generality is not useful. But rear brake on exit, i.e under acceleration is a great point and a function that people can safely practice.
As you would expect, it's stuff that makes the difference at the ragged edge. But some of it can be applied to road situations. You just have to be aware that the grey zone is a lot closer in on the roads, and your skills may be up to the job, but the conditions might not be . Unless you are in the habit of doing sighting runs on your favourite street curves...
Omg, i always did drag the rear brake a little bit at the exit corner unconciously while i start roll the throttle up, if the bends are tight, but for fast corner i never touch the rear brake. So i did the right thing uh.
No 7 I m using the ''lean braking'' but i don't do that for better braking tire grip.I think its the opposite, you can brake harder and LATER if you are braking with NO lean. The ''lean braking'' HELPS YOU TO DO A FASTER,BETTER,HARDER AND WITH BETTER FELLING T R A I L BRAKING...When you lean braking you need less effort to counter steer the bike and you can carry more corner speed.Thats the secret.The lean braking is difficult to learn because you must be very confident with the front tire.
I focused on the braking ever since i started bikes. Knowing im fat and since riders in my country(philippines) normally focus on speed and cornering i thought braking is where i can get a bit of an edge i wanna ride fast. And it worked! normally people brake early before corners. So i catch up to them using that. But kinda a pain in the ass cause my bikes onl 14k kms. And im at my third brakepads now. And thats the HH materials 😅
Aye. I've certainly encountered the type, the natural rider who has a sixth sense for how to handle the machine, how much is too much or just enough for a given input. Some really have it built in.
The one at 1:54 is actually outside-inside-outside (performance strategy that is discuss at the MSF classes, but we practice middle-middle-middle strategy). That performance strategy is actually harder than it looks. I am only 118 lbs but handling a 500 lbs cbr aren't really easy for a guy like me. thanks for the video...learned a alot.
I feel like using the rear brake on exit is a retained habit from bikes without TC That might even still apply to them, considering how much power those bikes have. It’s easier to lay on 100% throttle and control the brake than it is to find the exact amount of throttle on a raw 1000CC bike, so the kind of guys with the hours you’re talking about might not even think about changing that little tiny part of their exit, and as a result their mechanics have probably leaned back the traction control in that area to just let the rider feel out his ride. I do the same and for me it’s just been an answer to keeping the front end down while still accelerating as much as I can on an older bike with no TC. A lot of the racers I talk to say they do the same, mostly out of habit.
Starting at 1:40- “Number three, smooth vision. Most riders have heard that you should look where you want to go, and that you should be looking for a hat.” What the?!?! A hat??? Is this what I’ve been doing wrong all these years? What kind of hat? I better listen to that again! Oh... “looking far ahead”... Never mind. Edit: Great- now every time I’m cornering, I can’t stop looking for that damned hat!!!
