That drivers seat and steering wheel durability is pretty poor. Hell, even 1970s cars with vinyl or velour upholstery held up a lot better than that for 100,000 miles.
Tftc, and a big oof on the batteries. Hopefully that's something they worked out by '23 because I'm gonna be passed if I have to replace mine that often.
Glad the battery was under warranty. Yes the seat is annoying that it wore that way but that is pretty minor compared to the condition of the rest of the car.
You're the 4th person I've encountered on RU-vid thats had to have a battery pack in a Model Y replaced. And, you make 2nd of the 4 that have had your pack replaced twice. This is troubling for someone, like myself, that's already hesitant.
That is definitely pretty troubling. I do suspect that since these high mileage teslas are work horses and time is money they are likely charging past 80% and running bellow 30% on the regular and that is way more stress on the battery. My 2013 Prius battery was toast this year and just replaced it in the spring. I have a hard time believing the Tesla battery will last way longer than that and so far, data is not too encouraging on that front. I have hear of a million mile Tesla which had 3 batteries that each lasted about 300K miles.
@@mbmpablo3631In 2018 I bought a 2013 Prius. I kick myself every day that I didn’t get a new Prime instead. That’s a great car. My Prius now being 10 years old is on its last few years, at least for me. I love my wife’s 2023 Model Y so far but I’m really torn on which car to buy to replace my Prius. I’m leaning towards a new Prius or Prime if I can get it.
Wow! Early 2021 with 148,336 miles. My white seats are in excellent condition. Even the driver seat. My steering wheel while not heated is also in pristine condition. I’m on my original battery and original 12 V. I will probably be proactive and replace my 12 V on its third year anniversary in November.
I have a blue MYLR with white seats and I do rideshare as well. Also 27k miles of road trips since Oct 2021. You may find that the white seats solve your sweat problem. They stay cool to the touch on the hottest days. My passengers always comment on the roof, but I just added a cover because on 100 degree days the A/C took hours to get it cooled down.
Hey my friend, over in the Uk and doing the same as you in an Ioniq 5, 20k miles in 6 months and touch wood no problem yet. Averaging around 380 miles real world on the 77kwt battery model. Reason why I’m watching, wife just purchased a model Y AWD long range so going to keep following and see how your car goes! Great vid keep it up 👍🏻
I'm calling BS on the 380 miles for 77kW. This 4.94 miles/kWhr which is unusually high unless you are driving like grandad in old Rover towing a caravan. Secondly the Ioniq5 is an NMC battery and the 80/10 rule applies. If you have driven 20k miles in 6 months you are non-compliant with the manufacturers instructions. With a 77 kWhr battery you can only use 53.9 kWhr, which means you only get 266 miles at 4.94 or you now get 7.05 miles per kWhr. I suspect you are doing your best to f&*k the battery.
Great video Tollak, I think it held up really well! We agree, we need ventilated seats for sure. I’m really surprised how your paint still looks so good even without PPF. I learned something new today…. Blue Beast lol Thanks for the shout out :)
ABSOLUTE GARBAGE!! 3 battery lmaooo stop using EVs as rideshares, invest in a prius or something. Imagine having a 2021 car and now looking for a new ride. couldn't be me
I'd say get a new Model Y before 120,000 miles. There's a stray fructron running around in your current car that's eating batteries. That's my scientific opinion.
Greeting from Europe :-) Really the honest review of Y, thank you! ... and therefore I would like to buy VW ID4 of ID7 :-) Evs are not a cheap cars and seats have to endure more, the battery has to endure more... I know VW ID4 doesn't have such performance, such efficiency but I know, the material and equipment's quality is much better..
I have an 23 ID.4. It certainly has its challenges. The software is lousy at best. Mine likes to randomly reset all different settings. The car has creaks and rattles. The dealer has helped some but I am thinking of going to a Y LR. More range, faster charging, better acceleration, more room, much better software. Good luck on the decision.
The battery situation is scary. What happens when it’s out of warranty? You or the next owner may have to pay more for a battery than the car is worth. I didn’t know they replace with a refurbished / bad battery. That’s so scary for anyone considering a used Tesla.
Really helpful and honest with 100k. Useful too since as you said it works and not babied. I had a Bolt too and loved it. My favorite car I have owned but eyeballing a Y LR.
Wow @chargepozitive great review it held up pretty well build quality is Toyota like. Wear and tear interior not that bad, battery wise I heard Tesla upgraded there battery to 4680 battery cell for the model Y
@@laloajuria4678there are others I could use. I chose the Y and like to drive it. 🤷🏻♂️ I am looking at other options but for the most part it’s been great. In case you missed it in the video, there were no mechanical issues with the vehicle.
The three batteries replaced points to the bad idea of supercharging any battery. Jamming in the electric into a battery superheats it, caused way more degradation and a battery failure much faster. Unless the batteries are already designed with excess cooling,as well as chemical components that accept the increased electric flow, it seems it would be best to leave the supercharging for only very few situations, and not very often at that. The kind of advanced structure needed to accept supercharging over and over in a battery, is likely very expensive right now. So don't expect that it will be safe soon. EV makers are cutting their investment in this industry to save whatever profits they can make. Maybe standard, low flow rate charging is the best way to go.
Hmm, our 2014 and 2016 Teslas have 100k miles on them, and those seats are in much better condition; could it be the vegan leather isn't as good as the real stuff?
Vegan leather is usually more durable than real. That's why many "real" leather interiors use a combination. Fake leather in high-impact areas, real everywhere else. Of course, there are other factors. Maybe Tesla's particularl vegan leather is lower durability, or maybe it is how he uses it, how he sits, how he enters/exits, maybe even the clothes he wears...
I remember when I took a 2023 MY for a test drive, I noticed that the vegan leather on the seats and steering wheel felt quite soft. Softer than my Mazda's leather interior, which I thought was nice. But maybe Tesla chose that material for initial comfort over long-term durability.
See Out Spec Detailing for more Tesla and Lucid thin paint reviews. The legacy EV automobiles have much better paint. That review of Model X is subpar for the industry.
For your future vehicle the seats can be protected with ceramic seat protection such as Gyeon leather shield. The steering wheel and dash would last longer with protectant like 303 Aerospace Protectant. You can buy affordable tesla door sill protectors which will prevent the scuff marks and are easily placed and replaced
Yeah there’s lots I could have done to protect this and that. But at the end of the day I just want to drive and get going. It’s my work car not a show car.
I think most of this is snake oil, a seat is going to wear out, absent a physical cover, as for the scuffs - its plastic do you really want to spend your time protecting it all when it loses no function?
Competitors should take notes on producing sabotage videos. Having someone say they love a car and then showing how absolutely shit it is, is the most effective anti-marketing I’ve ever seen. This car is in the worst shape I’ve ever seen at 100k. The car is literally seats a steering wheel and a screen, and 2 out of 3 of those things suck.
Interesting power consumption figures: 27132 kWh over 100K miles gives 3.69 miles/kWh. (Pretty good). 27132 kWh at 70% home charging at 15c/kWh and 30% at Teslas average of 40c/kWhr gives $7103. (Not far from the $6000 estimate.) My Mazda 2 SkyactivD would burn 1800 gals of diesel and cost $7200. The Mazda is more expensive to service, but tires last much longer and are cheaper, insurance is a lot cheaper and depreciation is less. The running costs are not dissimilar. However, the medium spec Mazda was $30,000 cheaper than the medium Tesla Y. That capital difference will never be re-couped.
Came to say the aero covers have a tendency to pop off going through standing water. Also. Really surprised the aero covers didn’t ruin your wheels. Mine are trashed from them rubbing through the coating.
I live in Utah (wide-ranging seasons/road conditions) and have Michelin Cross Climate 2's on multiple vehicles. I also love to drive and go on road trips, and these are the best all-around tires I've ever owned. Unless you're putting rubber on a high-performance sports car or off-road vehicle, I highly recommend these tires for every other use case.
Up until my current car, I was averaging over 40K miles per year. A good part of that was road time. The rest was a commute. My first car that i bought was a Subaru. My last three cars went well over 8 years and 200K before replacement. The nature of your miles is likely the difference in the wear on the wheel and seat vs my experience with my Subarus and the Ford Fusion Hybrid. Honestly, the blue is about the only Tesla color I like.
Generally it isn't a good idea to mix tires (different traction on different wheels), although its interesting with AWD EV it may matter less. The tires aren't that different though, so maybe the difference here is negligible.
This is awesome! I know it’s late but I’ve been researching for the last 3 months and finally made the decision to buy a Tesla Model Y the blue color! I’m so excited for delivery. 🥰🥰🥰 great video!
Not a chance unfortunately. After the original battery dies Tesla will put only a refurbished battery and this will happen until battery warranty ends. And you can't trust the refurbished battery to last long.
@@normt430 the best I could give of the health I said in the video: it reads +/- 300 miles. No idea how old the pack is because it’s remanufactured etc.
Found this video because I was looking to get a used Y long range. With the batteries, steering wheel, and seat that is a huge pass. Thanks for the video.
With the crazy high resale we have on these especially up through the beginning of the year, I'd probably just swap with a new one before you cross the mileage warranty threshold...
@@normt430 this is my personal and work vehicle. I didn’t buy it for resale value. This review is showing where this vehicle stands at 100,000 miles. Not every user uses my car like this.
@@normt430 second take: it has over half of it's usable life used, which is the first half where everything is new and the half with a warranty which should be easily costlier than the second. If I could get around 25k for it I'd swap in a minute.
Wow... honestly not what I was expecting to hear. 3rd battery in 100K??? and the seat and steering wheel deterioration is really bad. I have 423,000 on a Toyota Hybrid that is 14 years old.. seat looks better than that as does my wheel. And it is on its original battery and engine. I put 223,000 on mine in about 4 1/2 years.. same thing.. rideshare and road trips. Makes me reconsider getting an EV... Having to trade in and replace a $45K car every 3 years to keep it reliable?? Probably save more money buying a cheaper car, and buying gas.
Luckily it is/was under warranty, and while gas can add up, supercharging also is more expensive than charging at home. I’m surprised they gave a “refurbished” battery when it’s a warranty item tho…
@@robertt1336 Thing that's concerning to me is that the second refurbished battery failed shortly. And the third one is also not behaving exactly correctly. That is not a good sign. And I was really not impressed with the durability of that seat or the steering wheel. Possible that he just sweats a lot and it damaged the seat. Honestly what he should do is buy a fabric seat cover to put over that leather. It'll breathe better and won't cause as much sweat problems. Maybe coming from Toyota I just expect a car to automatically go 300,000 mi with basically no problems.
Odd that on 3rd battery, like there is a problem with BMS or some other variable. I would have said the new battery should reset the warranty as such. Also strange it's a recon battery. He's under warranty, not out of warranty taking it to ,3rd party. Shame can't get good cloth seats these days. Or maybe half leather.
@@jondavies5885 I really wish they would offer a cloth seat option. I live in a climate that's extremely hot with a lot of UV input. I personally prefer a non-glass roof also. I have no idea why would prefer having bright sunlight pounding in on their head to cool the cabin.
Really interesting to hear a Model Y owners perspective after 100K miles, seems a pretty solid car, apart from your battery issues. The Drivers seat was a quite a disappointment, looks terrible and shouldn't be that bad in my view. Tesla does improve with time, I just bought my own Model Y with HW 4 this month and am so far really happy with it, the 2023 Model Y is a significant improvement from the early ones, NVH has really improved and the cameras now are much better than the HW 3, so I think you will like a new one, however no ventilated seats yet!
⚠️So much for Elon’s claims of “million mile battery” life. 2021 study showed EV batt replacements ranged from $12,000-$22,000! Sooo basically even if one maintains the car perfectly, you can’t safely own an EV beyond 120,000 miles the way u can most (ICE) cars. That’s a shame. AND, as consumers wise up, they’ll be willing to pay WAY LESS for any EV with 100k miles. So major dollar depreciation at that point. 🤦🏻♂️
@@lplt the steering wheel isn’t that hard to replace just haven’t had the $ lately to replace it. Honestly so much focus on a couple cosmetic issues. Mechanically the car has been great.
@@chargepozitive i'm saying because have 130k miles on mine but none of those issues, might just be you had a bad seat or steering wheel from the factory and shouldn't have to pay to replace it
@@lplt perhaps. But for the seat it gets a lot of sweat (trying not to be gross but my lower back sweats all day in the summer even with AC) and that perhaps accelerated that spot of wear.
So just a note for the CrossClimate2 tires! The V shaped directional tread pattern is actually much worse for water evacuation. If you want great hydroplaning resistance you want wide channels running the circumference of the tire. The new Hankook Ion ev tires are looking promising as compared to the stock Contis you had. 🤙
What is best about 3 batteries in 2 years, and a seat and wheel that look 30 years old? This video did NOT entice me to think about a Tesla at all... more likely I would just get another Toyota Hybrid as a result. My 14 year old Prius has 423,000 miles.. 223,000 of that in 4 years... same work as this guy. My seat and wheel look better than his.... and I am on my original battery and engine.
I don’t know how you can call something ‘the best’ when a two year old seat looks worse than out of a typical 20 year old car! I would call it pathetic.
Tesla in general, I know you see them on the road. The model y has made improvements beyond this model. That’s why is the best selling vehicle. They only have 4 cars. And surpasses other companies in sales. They’re clearly doing something right.
