OH my god.. Do you honestly think you let him get any complete statement out? You have an excuse for every last issue. “Obama didn’t do this because of Republicans.”, “Chicago ain’t better because of whites”. I bet you thought you killed this interview huh? 😆
Like any topic or subject, you can study history, makeup and tendencies, in order to assist and help and to be considered knowledgeable. If your statement was true that means you can never or should never go to a doctor that is the opposite sex of you, because they technically will never have the “experience” in order to know how to treat you. 🤔
@@vincenth.8793 Mmmmm medical knowledge is totally different than one's actually living experience. It's like me telling someone from another country, how things based on what I read. 😐. IT doesn't work that Way.
@@victorwilliams1304The point is you can familiarize yourself in any subject/topic by doing your due diligence in studying and researching and become knowledgeable and possibly be considered an expert. By saying only whites know whites, blacks know blacks and so on is intellectually incorrect. The word “tendencies” implies the actions and reactions throughout history and under certain situations for any general subject group (people, animals, ideologies, etc) when you are researching. It’s an aspect of the research you have when you familiarize with any group. Experience alone does not make you well rounded in a subject. Most of that is anecdotal anyway.
@@vincenth.8793 And being familar doesn't mean you have "first hand" experience. Especially when you are talking to a member of that Group. That's where the term "privilege" comes in. But that's for another post.
It GALLS me when other members of a different minority group ATTEMPT to debate someone else's experiences, when THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO RELATE. I had a similar experience a few years ago. The man that I was speaking with, operated under the DELUSION that since we're both minorities, we share a commonality, when WE DON'T. All we have to is look at how we arrived in this country in the first place. From there, any similarities start tapering off. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOUR PEOPLE MADE THE CONSCIOUS CHOICE TO COME TO AMERICA, THEN YOUR EXPERIENCE MAY BE VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM THOSE FOLKS , WHOSE ANCESTORS WORE FORCIBLY BROUGHT HERE.
Ah the whole, "You have never been X so you can never argue from X point of view." That is such a cop-out, right up along there with terms like "MY truth." Same people who reject objective realities like two sexes and genders.
could not disagree with you more! If your ancestors were forced to come here that should have zero impact on your life so long as you are not forced to stay. If you were not allowed to leave I would agree with you. But the fact is you were going to be born somewhere. How your family got here 150-200 or more years ago has zero impact on your life outside of the impact you put on it.
This is the reason why Republicans don’t sit down with black Democrats. This ‘debate’ would have been better had Roland allowed Dinesh to talk. How can you expect people to talk to you when you gish gallop for 5 minutes and give your opponent 5 seconds to respond?
@shaqjazz1 you might feel this way but this whole video was 1hr long and at the end dinesh shook his hand. so the way i see it he most likely didnt feel like he got cheated. he could have walked after the first 10 min if it was that bad
Roland lies so bad when he said Trump or Candace Owens doesn’t talk to black people. I have seen videos of Candace in ALL black crowds and. And trump has been to black churches and has traveled doing rallies ALL OVER CITIES that have huge black populations. BUT IF THEY ALL DON’T SHOW UP WHAT IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO DO. How many Democratic run events has TRUMP NOT EVEN BEEN INVITED but JayZ and Beyoncé are. there are lots of black people at trump rallies too. I see plenty of them. Let’s also not forget that the black population is drastically smaller then the white population so a more white turnout is likely. The main difference is that at a Trump rally black people are just as much welcomed as any other population. I KNOW SO MANY BLACK PEOLLE THAT HATE TRUMP BUT ALL THEY WATCH IS CNN MSNBC AND THE REST OF THE MAINSTREAM HEADLINES AND DO NOT DARE WATCH PEOPLE LIKE DINESH, Limbaugh, Owens, Anthony Brian Logan, Brandon Tatum, and so many others. The other reason that blacks don’t go to Trump rallies is 100% because they know they will THREATENED, with verbal, emotional and Physical ATTACKS!!!
Roland doesn’t allow you to defend your point. He has to dominate the conversation. What does your guest believe? You didn’t answer (or let him ask questions)
I see! But we the listener could benefit from a full and clear dialog. I agree with Roland but I still as the viewer want to hear the whole perspective before I form an opinion and Roland is not allowing that option in this conversation with a guest he invited to the show. Don't get me wrong, I adore and appreciate Roland Martin and I watch him daily for my source of news from the black perspective. Thanks Vincent.
@@eddieaow42 I didn't notice that the guest was off track; only that he didn't get to finish his thoughts. Perhaps had he been given that opportunity then Roland would have had room for follow up questions related to his quests views.
I think I listened just fine @Vincent Sample . I understand Roland's style of interviewing and I know all about the typical right wing tactics just fine too. Be blessed.
It's amazing how, Mr.: martin is a manipulator, especially the way he won't let the man make his point, especially when he started talking about the president that was there from 2008/16. That's what he does best, talk over people with his opinions, I think narcissism has gotten to him heavily. I guess he thinks he knows it all.
personally, i wouldn't give Dinesh D'Souza the time of day. Anyone who claims that segregation was created to protect black people is like a Holocaust denier in my book. And yes he said this in his book The End of Racism.
Roland Martin you are very knowledgeable and know much about the African American experience. I enjoy your history points. I however feel you masked this knowledge with your poor debating skills. Allow the other player to express their ideals. Stop shouting the opposition down. We the audience will make our own opinions. Give us some credit. Psychologically you may need some direction to assist you with self restraint and self control.
When the dude is making false statements and after roland give him facts on the topic. Facts that cant be debated... like when roland brought up that black people only been free for about 48yrs a number that is not a secret to people that no/understand America history with black people. U DONT LET SOMEONE TO CONTINUE TALKING pushing WS talking points. He claims he dont see Reverend Al Sharpton doing nothing in Chicago. WS talking points... THIS IS A TOPICAL saying of white people about black activists. Roland must shut that type of BS talk down and how many time he claim not to have any or good knowledge on how many TOPICS
IKE BOY my question is how long will this black oppression narrative continue? 10 years, 50 years, 100 years? Eventually blacks need to realize that the only person in the last 48 years (Martin’s and your words) holding them back is staring them in the mirror.
Sarah R Im with you , black leaders are more intimidated by white liberals then republicans are to blacks. Black leaders continue to be parrots and puppets to white liberals.
I like a good debate, but not a shout down. They both make good points for consideration, however only one person shouted down the other not allowing for a point to be made. Do a word count. Roland talked more than five times than Dinesh. He likes to listen to his loud words without Dinesh getting his point of view across. As I watched, Dinesh is soft speaking and would listen. Roland does not, he is looking to make his next point without even considering Dinesh point. I watched to learn and understand, but Roland was in mode of only his points without giving Dinesh a chance. Why would he invite Dinesh, if only Roland wants to talk? Terrible interview.
I hoped this would be an actual debate where both sides would make points and have a chance to support those points. Mr. Martin, I applaud you for having Mr. D'Souza on your show. But let the man respond. You cut him off over and over before he had a chance to respond fully. It's a disservice to your viewers.
Yes, why didn't you give Dinesh equal time. When you vocally walk all over another's words, it's like you are not confident in your ability to triumph with your own words! If you're self-assured enough, you should be alright with him finishing his sentences. And it's presumptive to think you know where he's going, especially given his level of articulation and his patience with what some would (maybe) consider your rudeness, sir.
@@monas LOL...I don't worship Roland...I respect the fact that he comes prepared and will stop a guest from lying on his show....Is Dinesh someone you worship...or trump..or some other racist idiot like you...??
He does allow him time to speak. Like the video is showing Roland is more passionate about the situation because he has walked the walk daily. Systematic racist devices are still in play today,unfortunately.
jusclay To manipulate 1000s of retarded RU-vid followers that think Roland won a "debate". Mission accomplished. These days, a victory is a victory wether you earn it or not . . . With this many simple minded followers, he's kept his cattle in the fences, he's satisfied with the results.
Roland educates Dinesh all during this interview. You are not saying why Dinesh is asking Roland why is this happening and Roland tells Dinesh Why and tells him on good speaking terms.
No he does let people speak, what he doesnt do is allow someone to 1)Lie and 2) misrepresent the facts. I have watched many of brotha Roland's shows and trust me when I say. As long as you dont do one of those two things he will let you talk tell the cows come home. But once you crossed that line, he's on you like white on rice.
Ralph Jackson you are talking rubbish. Roland doesn't know everything, no one does and he needs to listen so he can hear a different perspective. He is very annoying and arrogant.
@@ralphjackson8295 I don't know about you, maybe you are only interested in hearing one of side of an argument but I like to hear both sides and he didn't let D'Souza speak. He drowns people out and is a bad host. Sean Hannity does the same thing on the right and I hate it.
@@vaskylark again I will say. I have been watching Roland for years and he only interrupts people when. 1) They lie or 2) because they are misrepresenting facts. I have watched him interview hundreds if not thousands of people. I have seen with my own eyes him allow a very conservative talk on end and the only time he stop him was when he lied about something.
Uncle Ro-ro. When De'sousa started talking about going back to India and things changing there (trying to say they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps) I'm guessing you don't know that he comes from the Brahmin caste. In India they have a fixed caste system and his family are from a high caste giving them the equivalence of white privilege. There is a Dalit caste there which are the darker original people. They are excluded from everything (only used to clean cesspits) In fact traditionally if a Dalit's Shadow touched a Brahmin's it was considered pollution of the Brahmin's shadow. They weren't even allowed to use (pollute) certain Brahmin words. Dalit's are classed as N****s and are untouchable (which is an actual name for them) De'sousa was born into and is well used to such systems.
Hey dummy! Dinesh does NOT come from a "Brahmin caste". His last name D'souza suggests that he is a Christian (catholic). So you comments clearly shows you are ignorant and trying to pass dome fake argument!!!!
Who in their right mind thought that Reagan was for the working class or for people of color. He was obviously for the Rich and we are Still suffering the retribution of several of his policies to this day. Reagan was a 2nd rate actor, and let us give LBJ credit for having an epiphany and I do believe his guilt regarding the warmongering profiters and the deaths of so very many 19 years old in Viet Nam prohibited him from seeking a 2nd term and lead to his early demise.
democrats are stopping black people progress. obama caused the racial divide.. that not the gist of it but that the outrageous things he tried to say. to me it felt like a lot of republican talking points
To be fair, I hear black activists all the time telling white folks that they have "systemic white privilege." I've heard more than one claim that whites keep up "racist institutions" because they're "afraid of losing power" that WE only vote for Trump because we're racist. Idiots like Ibrahim Kendi and other CRT race hustlers saying that we're infected with "white fragility" and "white guilt" making all sorts of assumptions about why whites and conservatives vote the way THEY do. So let's not go there there's PLENTY of that to go around.
Roland really has to let dude finish w/o interrupting with a string of other topics. Terrible interview by Roland. Same tactics someone in Junior or High school would to. 1. Ask a question 2. Not hearing the answer you are hoping to hear 3. interrupt with a series of other questions and other topics.
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He did a great job at laying out the facts to counter D'Souza's very limited knowledge of the Black experience. It may seem that he talks a lot but he don't allow a guest to spew misinformation and out right lies. that's why many Republicans won't come on his show.
Roland has some good points but he's so quick to speak that he never lets Dinesh finish his point. Roland, calm down and let Dinesh finish his point before you jump into a different point or question. Roland has not mostly said anything that Dinesh doesn't already know. After Roland get his point across, all you hear Dinesh say is, "right," because Roland isn't schooling him. Dinesh already knows.
There's a significant difference between Dinesh acknowledging something as "right"...and Dinesh ALREADY KNOWING what Roland is saying. There are some points that Dinesh did know, and other points Roland made which Dinesh didn't have. Dinesh himself acknowledged that he DIDN'T KNOW OR HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT an entire reality which Roland and African Americans like me know statistically and have lived intimately. @ 28:08 Dinesh himself acknowledged this fact. And Roland isn't being overhyped and over-talking Dinesh. Roland...famous for not allowing factual inaccuracies to pass unexposed and thoroughly factually corrected on his show...is simply halting Dinesh at the point of factual error. Exposing and obliterating that error. In the process of the cut and thrust of this discussion and debate, such on the spot exposure and correction is essential when juxtaposing the positions of each man and what knowledge, facts and life experiences framed their experiences. Dinesh is a very intelligent scholar who's also puzzled as to why Republicans don't engage our people, and is so removed from street level reality that he cited a cattle call for and a speech given to a sparse crowd of young, deluded Black people as Trump not being afraid to talk and deal with us, because Trump interacts only with certain Black people specially vetted to minimize any likelihood of blowing his propaganda campaign by asking him hard questions, and demanding direct responses in return. That alone means that Dinesh's entire perspective on this matter is the perspective of the scholar hypothesizing from his Ivory Tower, not the information drawn from the real world when one's untested hypothesis gets tested, and must change due to realities of the real world outside of The Ivory Tower.
@@ATACXGYMCAPOEIRA My point is Dineah already knew most of what Roland was saying, that's why he used the word "right" just to confirm that what Roland was saying is correct. You can't acknowledge that a fact is right if you don't already know that it's right. No one says "right" if they don't know for sure that it's right. You can't say "right" if you don't know for sure that it's right, otherwise you'll be saying "right" to something that you're not sure is correct.
@@CheersToYou007 my point, friend Cheers, is that even Dinesh's acknowledgements were devoid of the complementary contextual information. The Ivory Tower "right", not the recognition and understanding that comes from testing facts in the field. That's why Roland had to both correct and expand upon Dinesh's inaccurate comments. And that is why some...not all, but some...of the "rights" that Dinesh acknowledged didn't lead him to understanding that he was factually wrong prior to presenting inaccurate information requiring corrections by Roland, while on Roland's show.
Man, I have talked to guys, who have some knowledge under their belts, over the years and they are the same: listen to me and I’m going to outtalk or talk over you. I had decided that those guys aren’t interested in opposing ideas and solutions but a verbal exercise. It’s sad.
All the dinesh trolls here complaining that Roland kept interrupting, is because when dinesh comes up with some crap lie he had to stop him and dinesh got owned.
Roland barely lets his guest get their thoughts out. He ask them a question, interupts them mid sentence, and ask them another question. This would've been a better debate if Roland would stop talking over people and actually allow them to complete their sentences.
@@TrulyMade How? He barely got a word in. He did the same thing to Jason Whitlock until he called Rolan out on it. Did you see the Dr. Umar interview? It was a disgrace and I'm not even a fan of Dr. Umar. Roland needs to let people talk instead of talking at them. And treat his guest with a little more respect.
@Will B we’re talking about this conversation not his previous conversation. Every question that is ask the guy goes around it. It also shows that he doesn’t know much about America history.
i now see why he was let go from so many other platforms, he keeps over talking his guess and screaming, hes too emotional then he keeps changing the subject. hes too emotional
@@DIDDYTBABY Yeah. Its his show until guest stop coming because he won't let them get a word in. If you invite someone into your home you treat them with respect not ridicule. Its called hospitality.
@@radicalrattler guest will continue to come on his show, Dinesh keeps bringing up Democrats of the past but fail to acknowledgment that Republicans when in power did nothing for blacks as well.
this guy keeps telling that Republicans will never come on the show...guess u know why...almost 45-50 minutes of this show was done by roland talking over dinesh...this ain't a debate...this a one sided radio commentary...cut the crap...
Hey Roland, can you please permit your guests to articulate their views without interruption. I understand that you need to hold people accountable for statements that are contrary to your own. But if we are only permitted to listen to the majority of your accounts and your guest is not afforded the same opportunity to speak, is that really a debate? Please try to be more accommodating to your guests.
I do believe Roland is giving him a chance.This man is a born Trumpet, no surprise he believe he is white.Like most Indians.Most of them think they are white, please what color is this man someone please tel me.
@ Bridalle, unfortunately Roland was not giving the guest sufficient time to speak. This, we are unable to effectively examine and understand the breadth of his ideas.
@ The AverageBroShow Podcast, one can still underline their views without having to limit another individual’s opportunity to speak and express thought.
Listening to this for a 2nd time, a year later, I'm astounded that Dinesh even made an appearance. He has no data. He continually keeps saying what he feels. The irony is that feelings guide voters. That's the appeal that keeps identity politics as the winning method for those that disagree on policy and suffer at the hands of the wealthy, irrespective of party.
Lol roland spews garbage from far right sources only and then yells and throws a tantrum everytime the other guy makes a good point. Everything he says is false and super easy to look up.. takes seconds
@@fromouttaleftfield6932 I agree but also Roland has heard all the dumb arguments and he’s tired and doesn’t have the time for it, I can appreciate that.
@@edvh88 that's right. When he only has so much time and he's listening to stuff he's already heard a million times before (he already knows what they're gonna say before they say it), he feels the urge to rush them. But he has to keep in mind that there may be people watching his show who don't yet understand what's going on, so he needs to let his "guests" get their BS out before he cuts them off LoL
WE CANNOT ALL PUT OUR VOTES TO DEMOCRATS. BLACKS ARE BETTER OF WHEN VOTING AS INDEPENDENT, SWING VOTES. OUR VOTING CHOICE SHOULD BE BASED ON INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE NOT PARTY LOYALTY.
@Mary S. I totally disagree with you. There are lots more to gain as a Republican than a Democrat, like religion freedom, pro-choice, right to be armed, jobs, including international policies and many more.
@@idlereport Dinesh didn't lose. The only people who thought he lost are people like you who rate the intelligence of someone by how loud you speak and how loud you raise your voice. Try listening to the substance if you care to educate yourself.
There was not ONE point that Dinesh was actually able to fully articulate and flesh out!! Roland, as usual, was loud, over talking, and rude. Maybe that's why others won't come on his show? If you honestly wanted to hear a fair debate this wasn't it.
I was blown away that black people have only been ""unofficially"free for 48 years . Despite all of the systematic oppression,modern slavery/lynchings, social and economic injustices we still suffer today.
Yeah man, I say this all the time. Dinesh is great, but he isn't a verbal powerhouse. Shapiro talks so fast that so assertively, that there is no way anyone can talk over him 👍. I try to talk as fast as possible when I argue with my dad, and he gets pissed because he can't talk over me. It's a huge relief to not have to worry about verbal bullies like that 👍
johnathan vale dines his a thinker, and is not interested in speaking over people who don’t like what he has to say. He understands that people are afraid of what he has to say, and that this is something he can not avoid.
Talking over someone does not show intellectual prowess or superiority Mr. Roland. It displays the opposite. Please allow your guest to speak. After listening to a "debate" the audience should at the very least walk away understanding the breadth of two opposing perspectives. In this instance the audience was only given one complete perspective, which in itself was like a shotgun blast, all over the place.
I love Roland's argument of the insanity of poor white folks constantly voting republican, but nothing changes for them. However, republicans always want to talk about poor inner cities!
Anthony Mcfarlane But they don't cry about it . . . Lol. They try to better themselves by themselves. They also don't live in . . . All of the most impoverished cities in the country.
I think smart people can listen to this and agree with them both with it comes to certain points. Ignorant people come to this already wearing their jersey for either side and will dismiss the other.
@We need angels . Victim card, race card, black card woke card. Where dose all these cards come from? From a deck that a very selective group of people maintain and control. What makes these cards a necessity? Anger, fear, hate and a host of other feelings that none blacks have for none whites. This is your go to card when you want to defend your nasty ways. Deflect and disagree, no one can do it better. Project onto others? No contest. 😒
You're going to relegate my history to a month. Black history is American history. I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. Morgan Freeman:
Yep. It's a common debate tactic. Bloviate on a non-sequitur, stopping your opponent from debating, then change the subject to a new topic. Glad you picked up on it.
He doesnt have to but the truth is the truth. Roland's personality can annoy me sometimes but that is an intelligent man and an intelligent black man that ain't here for the bullshit. None of us blacks should be with the shit for Democrats or Republicans.
@@nmr3647 I can't help but think roland has an agenda. He never talks about the advancement of colored people. He's hell-bent on perpetuating this victimhood narrative. Whenever dinesh was making a point he kept interrupting and changing the subject. Roland is very intelligent I'm just not sure what he is advocating for.
@@sunflo2001 i respectfully disagree. He is simply stating the facts of the state of things. Roland is a significant piece to our awakening in my eyes. You have to know how the past has affected the black community. He is not making excuses for blacks as individuals. He is talking about our community as a whole. Rich or poor. Educated and uneducated. His agenda is to enrich the black community through the understanding of history so we can properly attack our future. Now candace owen has an agenda IMO.
Roland doesn't want to hear Dinesh's answers. He interrupts him the second Dinesh is about to tear his argument apart. Roland doesn't want to hear the truth I guess
@@chrisbennett606 how? Roland kept interrupting Dinesh and never gave him a chance to speak. Give others to speak and make their point, before jumping into conclusions. Rudely interrupting and talking over people is just showing how ignorant you really are.
@@PaulMcGillTV how do you deal with someone that just wants to ask questions like why are white people racist or why do i have to show receipts when i get a mortgage ? no one really wants an honest conversation, roland just wants someone to scream at about racism
@@macky765 ....that maybe your perception, but I have listened to Dinesh before and his assumptions and conclusions are misleading. Thus I don't blame Roland for "screaming" at him as you put it. I mean honestly, there are plenty of testimonies and evidence where it seems blacks, regardless how successful they are, do get unfavorable treatment in our society.
@@PaulMcGillTV no one is disputing unfavorable treatment but that's not what the debate was about , we either stay focused on the subject at hand or we lecture about race and personal experiences. this is why we can never have a honest conversation because it will always gear off to people personal experience and it will always contain a white person as the aggressor as if there are no one other groups on the planet
@@DIDDYTBABY True, but he complains about people (mainly republicans) who will not come on his show to speak to black people. It's his tactics of not allowing his guests who disagree with him to get their responses out, or totally change the course of the conversation before his guest can rebut.
@@buildthatwall9784 I thought I was the only one who thought that. I don't know if his father was around or not, but you can definitely tell his mother predominantly raised him. His mannerisms and everything is just like a woman(maybe that explains why it's mostly women who watch his show). He's another example showing just how important fathers are needed, especially for young boys.
Australia!!!! I lived in Sydney for 4 years and I love white Australians cuz y'all love black Americans. Thank you for all the love. I'll never forget Australia
Dinesh dominated with his facts, Roland had no real comebacks, despite him interrupting and talking over Dinesh most of the time. Roland needs to just listen to his guests more.
@@Titan_Alex_007 but what has that got yo do with him. Let's say they are 10 times worse, does that change the fact that he should let a guest finish their thought? Is that a solution for anything. Well, I only murdered one person, so in so has killed three people. Do you get my point?
Dinesh dominated with facts? I will concede that RM was more aggressive, his show, his mannerism, but if you think that republicans actually are trying to expand their tent to reverse the injustices that have plagued blacks in this country, you are wrong. Please study your history, the republican party today has been dominated by the likes of Lee Atwater. The Republican party has been anti black since 1964.
@@mrtonod It's you that should not be instructing others to study history. It is extremely well documented that Democrats are the party of racism, the KKK, Jim Crow, lynchings, segregation, internment camps, violence, hate, and crime. They are the most anti-black you will find anywhere. What has the Democrat party done to further the black community? Nothing. Crime and poverty in Democrat-run cities and states are as high as ever. It was Republicans that have been against slavery since our founding. It was Republicans that passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Democrats opposed it. Look it up. It was George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama, that stood in the doorway to prevent blacks from entering. As a former Democrat, I used to think the way you think until I seriously educated myself on conservatism. Democrats have been lying to us for generations. You have been badly misinformed by our culture, but I can't blame you, it's hard to see through it. I have found that Republicans are nothing like they way they have been described throughout my life.
After 10 mins, I went back to the beginning, and clocked them both. Roland Martin spoke 40 mins and 20 seconds. Dinesh spoke for 19 minutes and 58 seconds. That's not even close to being a debate. EVERY time Diesh began to make a point to address something you put forth, you cut him off, and went off on a 3 min rant. Dinesh had 2 times he spoke over a minute. Both times it was a minute and 10 or 12 seconds. Meanwhile Martin had 14 times he spoke for more than a minute. On 4 of those he spoke 2:43, 2:45, 3:00 and 3:00. So .... those 4 times were more than half of time allotted to Dinesh. Your audience KNOWS what YOU think, Roland. Let the man TALK!!! My God, his longest reply was 76 seconds. You talked over him/interrupted him on 10 or so cases...i kinda lost count of that one. I was busy! So in 1 hour... the debate actually lasted, near as I could tell was 1 hour and 18. But the last 20 were Roland saying goodnight....so .... pretty good there!!! BTW, I had read NO COMMENTS prior to listening to this. I was excited and wnted to hear them. Then, as I said, I noticed Roland was talking all over Dinesh and wen back, and just wrote down the time stamp. Then I went back and did the math to see how much time that was in seconds. Then I divided by 60...and there it was. MORE than a 2 to 1 ratio in time. Typical. Then I rad the comments and saw I wasn't the only one. Peace.
Roland would be much more interesting if he brought guests on and let them interact a bit more. You can't ask why people don't want to talk to you when they can't get a word in edgewise.
@@ivespoken8902 Not today's Republican Party. Today's Republican Party vilifies COLIN Kaepernick, The NBA, The NFL and everyone and everything representing Black rights. Or don't you think that we noticed that, huh??!!
Great discussion Roland, however you didn’t appear to grasp his point about India which was also under slavery rule. The Indians have made great strides over last 30 yrs & as a black man I think we could have benefited from hearing why (as they have highest concentration of mathematicians in the world) if you listened to the question. I love your work but sometimes you should give your guests more time to speak and be prepared to learn something once in a while instead of preparing next rebuttal. B minus for this interview.
daarrkmatter - The Irish were the first slaves, Indians were 2nd & the Africans came after that. This is the reason why we were called ‘2 for 1’ during this era because it was commented that we could do twice the work as an indian slave. Learn your history and dont hide behind labels of ‘colonialism’ to rationalise these atrocities as I am sure the victims of these crimes didnt make the distinction...peace
daarrkmatter - I was speaking about the British colonial system which impacted world history. Don’t disagree with anything you set out, my main point from last year was we have to look at other models around the world to help benefit black people in America. To do that you have to listen not just talk. And to say that other peoples experiences are different because of the label of ‘colonialism’ is misinformed in my view, however if you would say that the impact of slavery is higher in America because of the sheer scale of the displacement that occurred I would agree.
daarrkmatter - I would add: a) Eradicate smug, self serving narratives b) Promote empathy rather than shallow condemnations C) Provide more access to wealth in the form of grants & loans to all rather than select groups who have traditionally benefited from this practice. d) Stop displacing low income families to gentrified communities e) Diverting funding to local infrastructure, business’s and schools. f) Overcome WHITE PRIVILEGE g) Savour the pride, adulation & fear we receive from other cultures for our undeniable GOD GIVEN GIFTS h) Teach humility as its clearly lacking within rightwing bigots. I) Push back more on the large influx of other cultures in the community until further investment in the community is secured. h) Ignore the IDIOT & CHIEF and his SELFISH, DEVIL WORSHIPPING, SELF SERVING, LOW IQ supporters I) SPREADLOVE
All I hear is pontificating from Roland. It's his escapist strategy from dealing with the hard facts and truth. What a shame to have the same failed black media and democratic party's deflated arguments. See Roland's response on the Dow, such ignorance and idiocy even on trade and economics?
Roland looks for racism and interprets every slight as such. He should be looking for equality, regardless of colour. Affermative action is racist! He doesn't say anything about that because the victims are White. Roland's examples are petty minded! I would suggest that if he and others like him don't like the way they are treated they should return to their homeland. That's not racist because anyone of any colour can join him and his ilk! No one should be treated differently in law, education and work, expectations, morals or values and self discipline! Regardless of colour. The problem is that one race in particular is being excluded from their own country, history, equality. Minorities can't cope ore compete with equality. World leaders have reduced the education standards and expectations so they achieve equality of outcome. EVERYONE should be outraged by that. EVERYONE is being robbed!!
DeSouza is a Louza. He had no answers at all for why Republicans (beyond the token blacks) won’t go into black communities and work for their votes. Say all you want but Democrats do that. They put in the work to get the votes. They may not follow through on all the promises but they show up.
Roland statements were all race based, thats why they wont go, how do you answer a question like "why are these people racist ? why do i have to show receipts for a loan ?
@@macky765 Exactly. This isn't rocket science. It's been programmed into the minds of most people, especially blacks, that when they hear "Republican" it means bad man. So the questions are always going to be unfair and stupid whenever a Republican is being interviewed.
Dinesh tried and got interupted, talked over and shouted down. Ironic really. It's not fear, it's a risk/reward analysis. Do I really want to sit down and talk with a democrat like roland who is simply going to interupt all the time and call me a racist and then spread a false narrative after the fact on the off chance I might reach a few people who see through the ad hominems and lies. The identity politics of the left is pathological. With the accessibility of information online I don't need to take that risk when a LOT of African Americans are learning for themselves because the information is all out there. Even a black person who goes to the Democratic groups gets attacked and told they aren't black because they don't fall in line with the leftists narrative. BTW, there are literally videos of Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens talking to rooms full of African Americans.
They show up because that’s all they want. Your votes! Black communities are the most impoverished in the country and yet you’re quick to run to the defense of the Democrat White man.
This is a typical debate where the left does not let the right expand on his comment. If you just want to talk and not listen then this is not a debate.
Royal Flush I think Roland is very valuable, but his conduct here was not acceptable. His demeanor with Richard Spencer was appropriate, but in this case it was wrongheaded. I think he lost his composure, and was a bit panicked.
People who are saying Martin is dominating the conversation( especially black people). You are not really listening. Denesh, is BSing, & Martin is cutting that shit short. What he said about the time line of the parties was correct, what he said about Chicago ( I live in the suburbs) was correct. Martin did his homework, Denesh was doomed from the beginning.
Roland Martin doesn't debate anyone, he talks over them. A person cannot get three out of their mouths' before Roland louds them down. Debating this guy is a waste of time. Dinesh D''Souza is a very intelligent man. I can listen to him all day. Roland, while knowledgeable, is an annoying blowhard who simply will not shut up.
perez moore Thankfully, unlike most reporters and journalists, Roland is not about to let lies and mistruths seep out of the mouth of the other person without recognizing and acknowledging them. You may think that is a sign of a blowhard who doesn’t let someone talk, but can you refute what Roland said? See he overtook the conversation when Dinesh wanted to put his misinformed and factually inaccurate information out there but that’s called truth telling and journalism. Roland played it straight as he often does and rolled over Dinesh not because he is a loud mouth but because he had truth on his side. Big difference
Joe Smith . I stand by my comments. If Roland Martin we're debating himself he wouldn't let himself finish. However, you are a fan of him and you are entitled to your opinion.
@@perezmoore4333 So you prefer a lie to the truth. Fool.
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perez moore here is the issue with your statement in my opinion...you too are a fan. You like many complain of people that you watch so often. If he talks too much then stop listening. If he keeps cutting people off and won't let them finish then be finished with him and move on. See we humans love to complain about things we have options on watching or not watching. I have said in the past that I would like Roland to let people finish but then I realized the trickery that person is trying to pull. I watch CNN and realize that it bothers me to watch them let someone use talking points and talk untruths specifically without facts. This is when I realized who Roland does the cutoff b/c you're not coming on his show speaking lies or claiming to be factual with no proof. I say shutdown the lies b/c enough is enough. Talking points are a major ploy to speak to that person's target audience and considering we are in an era of a President that will lie and his base rolls with it and so many are constantly coming up with bs to try and backup his lies is sad. So a Roland Martin is needed. I am a fan of truth facts and fairness but if you want to feed me bs or only show me the cover of your book and not tell me what's inside you are NOT trustworthy. But we are all entitled to our opinions.
Jesus christ!! If you're looking for a reason Republicans don't want to come on your show, ill give you the easiest most obvious one. You cannot, not even ONCE, allow the guest to drive home an argument, opinion or point without butting in and disrupting their train of thought. That was one of the most insufferable "debates" I've ever wasted time to listen to.
Without even watching the video let me guess Roland didn't let the guest make his points Constantly interrupting him an nothing is accomplish? Just asking? I can't watch an hour of Roland I just can't lol
@Aiyisha Anderson I know you want me to!!! So you can yell in an echo chamber Where everyone thinks the same lol I'm not saying agree wit me but Step out the bubble Atleast sometimes!!!!
It’s a waste of time talking to right wingers. They repeat talking points and doesn’t understand the blacks plights or don’t try to understand. This guy kept referring to democrats and not the internal problems of the US. Why waste time?
Roland, with all due respect, you need to have a show without guests, if this is the subject matter. What you have here is mostly a monologue - yours - not a discussion. Clearly you are an intelligent person but I think you can do much better than this.
thanks what I would do is if I was somebody I would never agree to debate I would say oh you want to have a discussion okay that means you talked I listened then when I'm done then when you're done talking I will talk and you listen. And if you can't abide by that then I'll just leave that's what I do in regular life when I have a conversation with somebody who won't let me talk
This was a master debate session. I dont agree with many points Dinesh makes but he arguues his point intelligently. But Roland was on fire and on point on every point raised. Dinesh cant see race as a factor that distorts politics in th US.
Now im not saying there isn't racist people because they're certainly is but not at all systemically anymore seeing how the last president was Black and had the most white votes in history even in our court systems all are made up of different races but more blacks than ever our in our judicial system
D'soeza yr 2019 Republicans are not the party of racist. Fast Forward too jan 6th 2021 Republicans storm the capitol building kill a cop and fly a CONFEDERATE FLAG THREW THE CAPITAL BUILDING HALL'S! WTF🤔 just saying
Roland refused to allow Dinesh to establish his points, basically because Dinesh caned him in the very early forays of this debate, re 4 types of Republican. Roland relies upon, depends upon his 'White supremacy' boogyman in order to get paid. Roland cannot see nuance, it will always come down to race. Constant interjecting, shifting the debate to individual acts of prejudice, personal anecdotes etc, ergo the larger debate and Dinesh have to wait for Roland to blather on, in order to bring the debate right back to where Roland found it difficult. Roland completes his filibuster and now it's a different point he wants to argue. Pathetic!
Great interview! He nodded in agreement with you on just about everything you said, but he couldn't answer the question of why the Republicans don't proactively "court" Black voters!
I'm surprised at the chat replay on the right during this debate. They are discussing racism in America and people are being racist towards D'Souza because he is from India. Ironically I am sure they do not see themselves as being racist.
