11 Channels Only $1775! Tonewinner AD-8300 Budget Amp First Impressions! 

I am humbled by your comment...thank you!

From what little playing I have done with the AT-300, it is super smooth. It really is a slick unit for those that don't NEED a world class room calibration software. Honestly, even without room calibration it sounds amazing.

I am with you 100% on all that. Tonewinner does not live up to the negative stigmas that come along with Chinese made products. Their build quality is top notch...period. Their sound quality is on par with their competition, and in some cases better. They are a great budget option gunning for a seat in the North American market...no question.

@@SpecOfTech 👍👍

I agree, the room calibration is very basic on the AT-300, but for the price it's expected. Even without room calibration I find it to punch far above its weight class. It operates super smooth now too. I have the Emotiva RMC-1L in house, and the AT-300 operates smoother than the Emotiva.

​@@SpecOfTech Do you just read pre-written script from a monitor on all your reviews?

@@wa2368 Some I do from a written script, and some I do without anything written down...it depends. Why do you ask?

My rack is by a company called MW and the model is MWER27. They are a great rack, but if you plan on getting some deep measuring equipment you may want to look elsewhere, the MW racks aren't deep.

No sorry, I don't have that information.

I am using XLR connections, and the 8300 is one of the more quiet noise floors I have heard in my system.

@@SpecOfTech What brand of xlr cables are you using?

haha that subwoofer must be insane.

You got it!

@@SpecOfTech thanks. It took a minute to process what tone winner was trying to do with their speaker connections. Thankfully the LCR was easy to identify. My initial 15 minutes of setup/listening sounded awesome (and with one amplifier). With the Monolith 7x I had set my starting volume at -37…TW I brought it down to somewhere in the -50s. After I saw your initial video and my monolith stopped working I made contact with HIFI via email and he actually called me (unexpected but welcomed). He responded very quickly…pleasure doing business with him. Looking forward to your next review in May. Thanks for what you do.

I was shocked too, it's no joke.

I am working on it this weekend. It should be published within the next couple weeks.

So far so good with this one. I don't think it can be beat at it's price. Aamir always takes care of his customers with warranty and service, he is truly a stand up dude!

If you just google how to setup up an amp and AVR you should find lots of information. It would be hard to explain in text how to set it all up. If you have any specific questions after you have things set up, don't hesitate to ask.

Well then stay tuned, there may or may not be an 11 channel class D in the works.

Sorry for the late reply, my schedule has been nuts. I haven't tried their subwoofer, but I do have some secret budget subwoofers coming in for testing. We'll see if they end up getting some reviews...stay tuned.

@@SpecOfTech Thank you. I really love the Tonewinner. It's underrated but definitely a winner for me. I sold my original processor and power amplifiers (well known brands) when encountered the TW brand. Now I have TW Processor and TW power amps. More power!

please also let me know as I have the same receiver and am interested in the TW.

How did you go adding this to the RZ?

No kidding, I was impressed by their rated numbers.

Next Saturday May 6 at 9:00AM Mountain Time.

@Spec Of Tech thank you, really looking forward, you have great reviews

Sorry to hear you had some trouble. As with any product/brand, there can be defective ones. I have had defective products from expensive brands as well.

It's a 5 - 12 V trigger input. Not sure why it's listed that way, it's possible there are triggers out there with less than 12V. The important thing is that it accepts 12V...cheers.

If you daisy chain your turn on signal to multiple pieces, your source is 12v & by the time you run it thru 3+ input/ outputs, you would likely have less than 12v. It seems to me their trigger is more sensitive, just in case you have a situation like that, which is nice. 👍🏼

I do agree that there should be a certain level of buying locally happening, but for those on tight budgets, amps like this are a godsend. I also hate to burst your bubble, but Tonewinner literally makes Emotiva. Emotiva just does some of the assembly in the USA. That shouldn't be a point against Emotiva though, as they are the same company and same quality they were 3 seconds ago before you found that out.

@@SpecOfTech I’d like to know the details of this… did Emotiva design their processors and schematics and contract Tone Winner to build it? Or did Emotiva have Tone Winner design everything… cause that’s a pretty big difference and if tone winner just went on after to build their own very similar product after Emotiva designed it that’s pretty shitty and very common in chicom manufacturing.

​@@Paranimal86 Tonewinner built all the parts for the amps and Processors long before there was an Emotiva and Emotiva bought what they build. Tonewinner did have a couple specific amps and processors that they sold in China, Emotiva would just tell Tonewinner the specs they wanted as far as channels or processor bells and whistles and Tonewinner designed it and then shipped them broken down units. Emotiva saves a lot of money on import fees by not importing assembled units, it also allows them to state they are assembled in the USA, which is Very different than made in the USA. Tonewinner and Emotiva had an agreement that Tonewinner could not sell in North America for a given period of time and after that, the external visuals had to be different, but the internals can be identical. Since Tonewinner makes a large variety of electronics parts and components, they have the ability to use some upgraded components in their equipment that could make them better. I don't known if and where they do it, but it is very possible and likely that they do since they know exactly what is in the Emotiva and it makes sense to upgrade certain parts that don't cost significantly more. Since Tonewinner is based in China and they use an independent internet system, you have to be in China to access Chinese websites, hence finding info is very, very difficult. I found the info on an AVS forum about 18 months ago, posted from someone who lives in China and could access some information as well as specific specs on what is used in Emotiva and the general process that happens. This info was before Tonewinner was able to sell in North America and was just a supplier for Emotiva. It was posted more of an Emotiva back story and how they could sell gear at such low prices and whether it was quality, so it wasn't a post about Tonewinner specifically, but about Emotiva and the quality levels and how they could sell so cheap. My guess is that within their agreement, Tonewinner is not able to publically state that they supply for Emotiva once they started to sell in North America, similar to the companies that produce Kirkland products for Costco, Duracell can't say that they make Kirkland batteries. As far as supporting local, I am a huge proponent of that and it is a priority to do so, specifically locally owned businesses. In this case, Summit HiFi is a local business and purchasing from them supports local workers and local distribution channels so to me, that is supporting local. 90% of small business owners sell products that are imported but that should not mean we should not support them. If we did, it would be an economic catastrophy as hundreds of thousands of businesses would go out of businesses and tens of millions of people would be out of work. If you purchase anything from a locally owned business, you are supporting local, no matter where those products are manufactured.

@@shaneducholke364 thanks for the in depth info! Yeah I always shop local first we have a hifi shop here in Buffalo, NY called “Speaker Shop” they are incredible unfortunately the other store Stereo Advantage closed there doors a few years back they were awesome too. The employees at Speakershop are incredible, I bought my Sonus Fabers(made in Italy) and Focals (made in France) there… I try support manufacturing outside of China whenever I can. I’m eyeing the new Sony ES AVRs which are made in Malaysia… I just see china being a problem for us down the road, a lot of our companies and politician sold out our labor and manufacturing capabilities to China.

@@Paranimal86 I don't disagree with you one bit, I do the same, especially China, but there is only so much extra I will spend to do that. If I am within 10-15% in price, I don't have an issue (even more on lower priced items). I don't have the funds to spend an extra 30-40% on items, especially if we are talking about a price tag of over $1000. In those situations where Chinese products are the only logical option, I try to buy from locally owned and operates businesses and stay away from the big box stores. I built my own custom Marty subs with B&C drivers that I think are from Italy, maybe a couple small components are Chinese but none of the big stuff is. I am buildinh my own Elusive 1099 speakers for LCR and HT8's for the 4 surrounds and 4 Atmos. None of the drivers are Chinese and the wood is local, so other than some interconnects and circuit board oiexes, none is Chinese and everything is bought from a US company. The sub parts were all from a Canadian company. Unfortunately with China dominating in consumer product manufacturing with such low prices, it is nearly impossible not to purchase their products unless money isn't a concern in your life and unfortunately, I don't have an abundance of extra cash laying around. I do wish more people would think that way, I live in a Alberta, as does Barret from this channel, and in general, most people support local since it is such a blue collar province. One thing they will happen within the next 5-10 years is Chinese production will drop significantly and their prices will rise. Their work force is dwindling as the older people will no longer be working and the birth rate has been spiraling downwards that their population rates are dropping by 10's of million per year. There are predictions that China's population could drop by over 500 million within 40 years, if not sooner. Good having this chat, take care

If you only need 3 channels...sure that's a great choice. I have been tempted to buy Anthem amps many times too.

@@SpecOfTech yes only for lcr

I'm curious what the warranty is like & the customer support if you're ordering from Summit Hifi. No knock against them or Amir, but their business is sales. They won't fix your gear & their customer support would be limited. Emotiva costs more, but they literally do everything. Read that again & realize there is a cost associated with that service plus the value it adds to your experience. Do you think your Ford is 100% American or even exclusively Ford made parts? BMW moved their 3 series manufacturing to Mexico & their parts are "globally sourced " so does that mean it's inferior?

Aamir is the Tonewinner distributor; he has some of the best customer service and warranty support in the business...I kid you not. He is often far to kind to his customers, at a detriment to his business and profit margins. You won't find better support than Aamir at Summit Hifi, and this is coming from someone who has purchased from someone that has purchased from most of the big players. As a matter of fact, here's an example; SVS doesn't extend their "Bill of Rights" to Canadian buyers. Aamir was having none of that, so he offers it to them out of his own pocket.