11 Shotgun Hunting Myths BUSTED 

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I'm good. I don't hunt anything, at least right now, that would warrant the firepower. But maybe someday.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide 10 gauge’s are for S’s and G’s.

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That choke is fine, but I have never had Nitros pattern for anything. I would never use them. I'd probably go with 7.5 target loads first. Winchester Long Beard XR is the best most consistently effective lead load on the market I've seen. You can't go wrong with that. Works in any choke. I recommend 3" #5s or #6s. 3.5 is fine if it's all you can find and your gun shoots it.

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People can have all of the above! I just think people should prioritize their ears first, and get the fancy shotgun later.

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Yea, people certain have done just about everything that could be done. But I'm focusing on trends. Diehards are few in number compared to masses. That's always been fairly true. It's probably even more true today

Your mileage may vary, well said!

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Yup. The larger the pellets the higher the ballistic energy and the higher the retained velocity at range, which also increases energy.

I have directional hearing with the Tetras. It's one of the main reasons I got them. But you're right, it's one of the lowest risk hunts. I would be sure not to use a ported choke if you're hunting without ear protection though.

My MSA Sordins Pro X I can tell direction perfect. Use them for everything. Have hear foxes running into predator calls before with them. Can hear doves flying in. Can hear turkey direction super easy.

@@stewartw7248 Those sound like a great mid-level over the ear option.

I almost made a whole video on the subject, but I thought it would be counterproductive, it's just not worth it lol.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I still don’t understand how anyone can still bring up shot string after seeing the surviving duck season footage… I see it all the time.

@@FirePirate099 yea, it's totally case closed.

Thank you so much! I am a big 16-gauge fan. The only reason it's not still the most popular bore is marketing and the lead ban of 91. You didn't need more than that to shoot a duck before. Then they started pushing the 12 and invented the 3.5" to sell more expensive shells. Modern ammo lets us go back to making sensible decisions once again.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I couldn’t have said it any better 👍🏻👍🏻 😀. Actually the more people that fall victim to the hype are actually leaving more birds for you and I😉. Unfortunately with these stupid fast loads that cannot perform well…I believe that there are more cripples than when steel first came out 🤷🏼‍♂️😞

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I would love to see some 28guage videos. Not many people out there that would address that! All it is, is common sense. A 410 with tss could and would humble a 10 guage fan shooting steel!

@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk I want to get a 28, but I'll probably go with a 20 first and work my day there in time.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Quite honestly I don’t think any of it matters all that much. If you’re comfortable with the gun that usually means you can hit things with it confidently It’s mostly about the type of hunting you are doing. M O. High flying snows I believe I would use an extremely high payload. Jump shooting ducks-anything would work-Pass shooting….. what is your skill level?? All around, I would still like to be shooting my 16🙂

There are others. Many 20s weigh 5 pounds. If you are hiking 10 miles a day looking for turkeys, that lighter guns make a big difference. And there are 20 ga tss loads with 2 oz of shot. Many 12 loads don't have that. In that scenario a 20 may be the best option for someone. If you are hunting ducks in flooded timer, you might have to walk a while too, a 20 with #5 bismuth may be more than ample at less weight for close range shooting.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide i didn’t think about weight. Makes sense. I have some 1 3/4 oz tss loads but never tried them. The 1 ounce wolframs from Boss look good. TSS is dense enough to hold that high velocity, curious what kind of terminal ballistics it has at range with 1500 fps muzzle velocity.

Yea. Modern ammo is not in any way cheaper. That's for sure.

10 is going to be heavier, more expensive, and provide far more than you need for hunting most game with modern ammo. It has its place. But I would find much more use for a 12 and a 20.

If velocity is equal, a 12 gauge has about 30% more max payload capacity. Maybe even a little more. But that's max. Often the difference in closer to half that. And the hottest 20 is equal to the lightest 12. But the short is, a 12 has about 30% more capacity than a 20, though the difference isn't always that high.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide thank you

Yup! Generally speaking.

I gave up telling my hunting friends (no all) about velocity and speed. They can figure out that it is a physics law and they Klingon to their 1700FPS junk. I just merrily shoot 2 3/4 steel at the slowest speed I can buy and know down birds. this year I plan to reload Bismuth at 1200 FPS.

I have always liked Kent shells. Used No 4s last year with a Muller Decoy choke and a Beretta A400 Plus. Very very few cripples. Stone dead.

Thanks I will. We do a lot of upland also so good suggestion.

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Yea, it is too easy and cheap to not use something! I tell people all the time, start where you are, with what you have or can afford and you can always work your way up to something better.

I never go into the woods without some EP.

@@taylorharbin3948 Good!

@@TheNewHuntersGuideMaybe some day I can get a silencer for mine. I don’t like having to wear EP. I miss the natural ambiance. Any chance you’ll talk about silencers in the future?

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@@TheNewHuntersGuide 👍 there is just one thing I have to correct you on 😁 BBs are actually steel not copper, just copper plated , they will stick to a magnet...👍✌️ great stuff,liking your videos

@@Timbermonkey360-em4th As in the BBs you buy for 10 pump BB gun?

@@TheNewHuntersGuide yes, on the Crossman pump BB gun on the cocking mechanism when you pull it back to recock to chamber a BB if you look when the BB is in position it is held by a magnetic pin.. It's all good, I was just picking at you about the BB ✌️

@@Timbermonkey360-em4th huh, I never knew that.

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Except recoil and cost and weight... just brutal power

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Haha, you are too kind, but there are lots of great folks there.

Yes. But if you look at the ballistics of say 1.5 oz of bismuth 5s at 1350 fps vs 1 1/8oz of lead 6s at 1100 fps, the bismuth provides equal or in some ways better overall results at reasonable hunting ranges. The modern waterfowl hunter is not at a disadvantage to the average pre 91 hunter. Though they will have to pay more for it. And if they pay enough to get tss, they can do better than anyone ever did lol.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide You are all over the place in this presentation. You just justified Bismuth by its increase in velocity, but you slam increased velocity in your presentation. You also just justified using a larger payload of Bismuth even though you somewhat slammed larger payloads. It's like the world must revolve around your new Mossberg 940 shotgun. 20 gauge can't compete with 12 gauge, 3.5" loads aren't as good as 3" loads, etc... It's how it all comes across to me, even though I agree with some of it. I would get past all that if I were you. For example, your viewers may embrace the more affordable Herter's TSS payloads for turkeys. 12 gauge & 20 gauge Herter's TSS payloads are the same 1.5 oz of TSS going 1,200 fps. It's only offered in 2.75" 12 gauge & 3" 20 gauge, but it bridges a gap between lead loads & more expensive larger TSS loads. The real joy, however, is that someone who owns a 12 or 20 gauge doesn't need a new gun to shoot them. Performance & value is key. Claiming my 12 gauge shooting 3' load is king isn't as helpful.

@@driftlesshunter9200 I think you are reading something into this that isn't there. I use what I use because it works best for my hunting style, situations, and circumstances. 3.5" shells are generally a con, which is why when I did my last gun upgrade I didn't care enough to get a gun that could use them because they had no value to me. I bought the 940 because I didn't need a 3.5" gun. I didn't invent an anti 3.5" doctrine to justify my gun purchase. I could have gotten any gun I wanted. I gave the Herters TSS a strong endorsement in my test video, it punched above its weight class and was the best price load providing more than adequate performance. I don't use a 20gauge because much of hunting is jump shooting and I appreciate the benefits the 12 brings to the table for shots at the fringes of max range. Though I am eyeing a 20gauge right now to get for turkey and waterfowl use. I teach 2.75" shells are generally better for most people, because they are, but buffered 3" shells are a specialty item and are ideal for my specific style of hunting so I more often use those. Steel ammo doesn't retain it's velocity which is why adding more does nothing. Bismuth retains velocity much better and you can speed it up as fast as it will go before it sees pattern degradation, which is usually around 1400. Which just so pattens to be enough to rival the 1100 fps lead of pre-91 days. Generally speaking more payload hurts pattern efficiency after a point, except with buffered shot. Really its not just about the amount of shot but the length of the shot column that causes the issues. Buffering largely solves that, and I have an entire video on the subject coming soon. These points are not random, disjointed, or conflicting. I just didn't want to make a 90 minute video getting into the weeds on each of them. I've already made almost 200 videos with all the details, going all the way into the weeds. Those are available. This video was meant to be a synthesis to provide some of that info at a high level without dragging everyone through a dawn of time explanation for each point with all its caveats and nuances.

The principle is steel has so little density that it loses all its effective velocity by 40 yard line no matter how fast it started. It's like a wiffle ball. Starting velocity matters more with denser metals.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Okay, I was talking here about lead, because I am from Eastern Europe and I never tried something else, I don't even know how steel shot looks like 😂 (you can't buy them in gun stores, because nobody use that), nice video as allways. We don't have anything except lead, 3 inch magnum loads or 2 3/4 inch, the best shotgun shells that you can find in Europe, we have them, usually they are from Italy, like RC or Bascierri Pellagri. I tried a lot of them and after few shots, shotgun barrel stays very clean and shells are very fast, but like I said, it is all lead. I have very nice B&P slugs with teflon coating and they are just anwesome, also grup size is very nice and powder burns easy, almost completely, so there is no junk inside of barrel. I will use lead a lot of years I think before they change something..

Go through the last 10 minutes of this video if you haven't ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r-MHcpMgPsg.html& The max variation on shot string relative to a fast flying passing bird at range is so minimal that it's beyond the functional capacity of human timing or precision to help or hurt a shot. When calculating the speed of a passing bird with the speed of the pellets and the time it takes the string to pass, it is inconsequential for hunting scenarios.

It's a specialty gun that is outside what most hunters will ever use or relate to. And the video was already too long lol

TSS ammo is the best for hunting everything, its also cost prohibitive for many things. But the point was there are many waterfowl loads that put "Tungsten" on the box but they are not TSS. They are some tungsten mix, blend, alloy, etc. Often with density lower than lead. They charge you more but don't give you much performance. Those are a scam. TSS at 18 g/cc is amazing but it often just costs too much to use.

As a sportsman, I'm gonna ask you to change the way you talk about this subject. I know of too many people from ages 25-70+ that have lost much or most of their hearing due to hunting with no ear protection. Some have hunted for 10 years, 20 years with no noteworthy loss of hearing and then the next shot left them mostly deaf in one ear and half deaf in the other. Often not being able to hear isn't their biggest issue, its the endless static and clicking they live with day and night, the tenitus that drives them crazy 24 hour a day. And middle-aged people with moderate or worse hearing loss are at 300% higher risk for Althamer's and dementia. This is a completely avoidable problem that should not be impacting the majority of shotgun hunters. Rifle hunters deal with some but shotgun hunters shoot lot more and are at greater risk. It can be solved for free. it can be solved better with a little money. But we have to stop taking it lightly and set a better example for people.

30 years for me. Can't say I haven't worn hearing protection, but 90% of the time I don't. I definetly have a ton of scar tissue in both ears. Can't blame it all on firearms though. I have also been a Martial Artist for 35 years. Myself, I am definetly going to get a small set to put in my ears from now on to keep my hearing which is luckily still great.

@@eduffy4937 seems the attempt at humor whent unappreciated

Brilliant

People said that if the pistol was the wrong size for your body that an optic could help overcome the mis alignment in gun fit that causes the eye to not look where the barrell naturally points? Because that's what I'm saying. Optics are a stop gap measure to help you get some serviceability out of a poorly fitting shotgun without cutting it up and resizing.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I was commenting on the previous comment about shooting trap.

I think you are sidestepping the point. Aside from turkey hunting, the example was that an optic could help compensate for improper gun fit. It's a stopgap, a backup plan, an alternative to help get some function out of a gun that doesn't fit you right and would otherwise not be viable. Maybe its a first gun, an inherited gun, an old heirloom that you just want to use without chopping up, etc. I'm not recommending optics for wing shooting, I'm just giving use cases and telling more of the story. For turkey hunting, they are a definite asset though, because poor body position is a product of shooting from contorted positions on the ground.

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Ok - I’ll concede a special use case. But generally speaking… trying to rifle aim a shotgun is a beginners error. Am a 100 straight trap shooter, club leaderboard for 5 stand, and harvested 85 ducks this year. Turkey hunt with my bow.

@@Backyard.Archery I agree with you.

@@Backyard.Archery only 85??!! You gotta pump those numbers up! Those are rookie numbers in this racket!!!