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12 inch Tom drum head shootout/comparison. 2/2 (17 heads - Remo, Attack, Evans) PART II 

Giulio Carmassi
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Snares on:
0:16 Evans ’56 Calftone
0:25 Remo Diplomat Fyberskin
0:34 Evans G1 Clear
0:43 Attack Royal 1 Clear
0:53 Remo Ambassador Clear
1:02 Remo Ambassador Ebony
1:12 Evans G1 Coated
1:22 Attack Royal 1 Coated
1:31 Remo Ambassador Coated
1:41 Remo Vintage Ambassador Coated
1:51 Evans G2 Clear
2:02 Remo Emperor Clear
2:12 Remo Vintage Emperor Clear
2:24 Evans G2 Coated
2:33 Attack Royal 2 Coated
2:43 Remo Emperor Coated
2:53 Remo Vintage Emperor Coated
Snares off:
3:03 Evans ’56 Calftone
3:15 Remo Diplomat Fyberskin
3:26 Evans G1 Clear
3:36 Attack Royal 1 Clear
3:47 Remo Ambassador Clear
3:58 Remo Ambassador Ebony
4:10 Evans G1 Coated
4:21 Attack Royal 1 Coated
4:32 Remo Ambassador Coated
4:43 Remo Vintage Ambassador Coated
4:52 Evans G2 Clear
5:04 Remo Emperor Clear
5:15 Remo Vintage Emperor Clear
5:26 Evans G2 Coated
5:36 Attack Royal 2 Coated
5:45 Remo Emperor Coated
5:56 Remo Vintage Emperor Coated
Overheads: 2 Shure KSM137 into a pair of BAE 1073 (pre only)
Tom mic: Shure sm57 into a focusrite clarett.
No Eq, No Compresison.

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Комментарии : 66   
@hunterbladen2806
@hunterbladen2806 3 года назад
People like you make the world a better place.
@eliasarroyo4929
@eliasarroyo4929 3 года назад
Remo vintage ambassador for me. I have it on my supraphonic and is amazing. 🔥
@paulsalonikas3625
@paulsalonikas3625 3 месяца назад
It is so good we can listen these comparsions, it is very helpful. Thank you!
@jonnykk1
@jonnykk1 2 года назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! Really helpful
@truthissuffering
@truthissuffering 3 года назад
Excellent video… Thank you!
@tonymilone5458
@tonymilone5458 Год назад
Great comparison! Thank you!
@dinospumoni5611
@dinospumoni5611 3 года назад
It's interesting how the G1 and Ambassador sound basically the same, while the G2 and Emperor sound very different. They must have different manufacturing methods/designs with multi-ply heads. Clear Emperor is my favorite of all these heads, incredible attack and a really hefty, deep tone.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 3 года назад
Remo uses a superior film compared to the one Evans uses. The Remo film resonates at a lower frequency and has a longer sustain. Compare the sounds by tapping a Remo Hazy Amabassador followed by an Evans 300 snareside. The Evans is crinkly sounding with a short sustain while the Remo has a breathy low frequency resonance and more sustain.
@austinshoupe3003
@austinshoupe3003 Год назад
@@Assimilator702 film might have something to do with it but I'm doubtful. Most companies are using films commonly called "mylar" with different formulations for different models. Remo gets to use the stuff made by Dupont. Evans uses a similar films made by a different company. The hazy heads aren't comparable to clear even within a single company. Evans stopped using hazy films a while ago to add even more uncertainty to everything. The bigger difference is going to be collars and flesh hoops. As far as the whole tap test thing, Aquarian made that their whole marketing approach a while back. It's relatively meaningless as you are going to drastically change the shape of the head and tension on the film as you tune it up. "Superior" is just a silly term in this context. I use Evans for kit and Remo for most everything else. Except I favor Evans snare sides for orchestral and Remo snare sides for kit. And I prefer Evans for concert toms. I've also moved to having various concert snare batters like the Aquarian vintage heads and various hide brands. Remo generally has more film variations and overall a more colorful sound that is easily overplayed (probably because of the old school hoop channel and collar shapes). Evans are typically tougher and warmer and handle heavier beating better (except for their Onyx and EC2M heads). I'm really loving the clarity of the Aquarian heads I've gotten lately which is probably more to do with the ridiculously heavy flesh hoops. Also noticed in this video the Attack heads had a ton of depth and their hoops are literally a steel hoop crimped into an aluminum channel. They have to weigh a ton. It just feels silly to claim it's all in the film company to company when they are all basically using the same stuff with different variations for different models.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Год назад
@@austinshoupe3003 The film that Dupont provides to Remo is a proprietary formula only sold to Remo according to my sources who is in the percussion industry. People have different preferences. I can use Evans for toms and bass drums but Remo for snares. While it can be argued that the "tap test" is pointlessbI do notice a difference in Remo reso heads on snares vs Evans.
@austinshoupe3003
@austinshoupe3003 Год назад
@@Assimilator702 the whole proprietary film thing has a grain of truth to it: Remo is partially owned by Dupont. So they are one of the few companies who can use the Mylar trademark (Attack also used it for their "Royal" heads for a while). But at the end of the day, I think you wildly overestimate how different the films are between companies. Mylar is just a trade name for certain polyester films. It's like saying it makes a difference having Kleenex instead of facial tissues. There is a much bigger variety in hoops, collars, and assembly than the materials used. Guarantee you your tap test deal is a construction quirk rather than a film quirk. Evans purposely has a very flexible collar design these days. The heads generally all got a lot more "plastiky" sounding pre installation when they made that change. That being said, they do install a lot nicer with fewer issues and quirks since that update.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Год назад
@@austinshoupe3003 I do like the way the Evans 360 heads sit on my drums a bit better. I just feel the snares especially feel flat and plasticky with Evans and I don’t hear that with Remo. Not sure if the 2022 Tama snares have up to date Evans heads but of the three brand new Tama snares I purchased this year, the Evans reso heads all had that plastic film sound when tapped and that less damped sound when tensioned on the drum. It could very well be the lack of HAZY films that Evans stopped using.
@Mao-max454
@Mao-max454 Год назад
Thank you for making good movies on RU-vid all the time.
@Drummerpocket
@Drummerpocket 3 года назад
Evans G1 coated and clear both had the best stick definition as their G2 counterparts and had just the right amount of sustain....
@leeasbury7273
@leeasbury7273 3 года назад
Super awesome 👌!
@northland..
@northland.. 3 года назад
i liked the fiberskin. & clear vintage remo emporer
@tobiyarbrough5239
@tobiyarbrough5239 3 года назад
i'd like to hear the Evans UV series in here.
@lanceschultz7132
@lanceschultz7132 3 месяца назад
Ecs and powerstrokes as well
@thomastucker5686
@thomastucker5686 Год назад
I like the G1clear the best, the Attack sounds pasticy with some off overtones.
@Monsterdrumma
@Monsterdrumma 3 года назад
I just prefer Remo to everything else after that I do like and think Attack are super underrated!
@VoltajeRecordsPeru
@VoltajeRecordsPeru 2 года назад
nice attack of the remo ambassador ebony
@ashrasmun1
@ashrasmun1 3 года назад
For me Evans G1 sound the best. No fizzling, no weird additional noises, just straight to the point.
@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866
@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 2 года назад
those overtones are the secret sauce!!
@pito100100
@pito100100 3 года назад
Evans '56 and Remo Fiberskyn !
@lightsoundstudio8856
@lightsoundstudio8856 3 года назад
Try real calf skins and you'll never go back to plastic
@okaight7248
@okaight7248 Год назад
I feel like I love how an Emperor sounds on its own, but in a mix it just has a harsh CHK CHK CHK sound that's annoying and hard to control.
@georgebirddrums
@georgebirddrums 3 года назад
man this is great, this stuff is so useful and so rarely done as well as you've done it here. lil aquarian next time would be ace!
@krusher74
@krusher74 3 года назад
This is what the head companies should be doing on their websites, but instead, they try to describe it in words!!!
@salcatura1559
@salcatura1559 2 года назад
Thanks....Your tuning is perfect...! great video....really get to hear each tom with a no-nonsense straight-up approach. What's your Tune Bot tuning for 13 16 18 toms? Would love to hear them!
@giuliocarmassi
@giuliocarmassi 2 года назад
Cheers! I found for me personally, these are the best tunings: 10" 196-258 / 12" 147-193 / 13" 139-182 / 16^ 87-145 / 14" snare 247-392. 22" bass drum 65-78.
@waltheisenberg7626
@waltheisenberg7626 2 года назад
Thanks! Please add Aquarian next time instead of Attack. No one uses Attack.
@TempoDrift1480
@TempoDrift1480 3 года назад
Thank you for the no bullshit.
@ratpiss9004
@ratpiss9004 3 года назад
Use the remo ambassador ebony as a resso head
@RReid
@RReid 5 месяцев назад
I just put coated vintage emperors on my drums and can’t believe how much better they sound to me
@dmitryshkolnik5233
@dmitryshkolnik5233 Год назад
Jee, what's wrong with all those attacks?
@krusher74
@krusher74 2 года назад
So many of them have a horrible buzzy overtone. Is it the drum? it was not as apparent in part 1
@joshthomas8885
@joshthomas8885 Год назад
2:44 - emperor coated 2:05 - emperor clear
@MrRezRising
@MrRezRising 2 года назад
Where were you in 1985 when I really needed you?
@anomalyp8584
@anomalyp8584 2 года назад
The single ply heads sounded better for this tom than the multiply ones.
@aaronraulston6248
@aaronraulston6248 2 года назад
I wouldve probably done this shootout with a slightly higher tuning… maybe 160…. Just to where none of the heads would have the paper-y fizz, but would still be able to hear the nuiances of each head
@p.diddle
@p.diddle 2 года назад
Exactly my thought as well. The differences in sound of the heads at low tuning are not clear enough. The papery-fizz sound you hear - is that on the thicker ply heads? The added weight on the thicker ply heads make them vibrate slower and adds what I would describe as a growly sound. This effect becomes more expressed at lower tunings and also appears when the resonant head is tuned too low.
@danlc95
@danlc95 Год назад
Same
@VertigoGTI
@VertigoGTI Год назад
Is that what I’m hearing on the Attack 1s? I als most wondered if it was clipping the mic
@danlc95
@danlc95 Год назад
​@@VertigoGTI - It's from being more concerned with frequency continuity than how each brand of head likes to sit on the drum. Some heads need more tension to sound "right" than others. Generally, if a head is producing a fizzy sound, there are areas where the film and the edge are not in proper contact with one another.
@marcgendron3696
@marcgendron3696 2 года назад
The Remo Emperor Coated are best in this recording
@francescorecupero2180
@francescorecupero2180 2 года назад
Remo has definitely more life in it
@morgunstyles7253
@morgunstyles7253 2 года назад
I think the first thing id do is get a better stand.
@HornManish
@HornManish 3 года назад
Although I'm an endorsee of Evans G2s, the Attack Royal 2 Coated has the edge here, less unwanted undertones like the rest of them.
@MeTuLHeD
@MeTuLHeD 2 года назад
The Attack Royal 2 Coated has a strong fundamental and greatly reduced overtones. I'll bet it would be great for recording.
@ilikemusic76
@ilikemusic76 2 года назад
sorry but can‘t help myself 🤓The tom tuned in that way sound for every single head combination like total crap. Please give it at least a half screw turn more🙏.
@danlc95
@danlc95 Год назад
Too much tune bot, not enough ear?
@drocha7237
@drocha7237 3 года назад
04:10 05:27
@francescorecupero2180
@francescorecupero2180 Год назад
I will give Calftone a chanche
@C0zyDunt
@C0zyDunt 3 года назад
All the Attack heads appeared to sound better to me.
@AVenged13m
@AVenged13m 3 года назад
this is killer man thx a lot . but audio comes a bit to the right ear, can you put the mic on so that it comes closer to the center next time? plz , but dont artifiacially do it in the daw
@ccdrums1290
@ccdrums1290 3 года назад
Evans heads sound like poo. Remo for the win, especially clear Ambassador and coated Emp. The more I hear Evans heads in comparisons the less I like them.
@ashrasmun1
@ashrasmun1 3 года назад
You mean Remo Emperor Coated? 5:48? Lmao. It fizzles all the time.
@lateralus8123
@lateralus8123 3 года назад
Remo's ring too much. Bleh!
@marsilanse_8156
@marsilanse_8156 3 года назад
The emperor 5:48 is horrible
@SagaContinu
@SagaContinu Год назад
@@marsilanse_8156 Yep I was confused why my tom sounded like this. It's tuned too low for this head type
@dilankarun9172
@dilankarun9172 Год назад
I like the Coated Amb's, but the Coated Emps sounded better to me too. I didn't like any of the Evans. Sorry. Attack was the winner lol.
@Szeiker
@Szeiker 2 года назад
G1 coated
@user-ny6pc9nr4b
@user-ny6pc9nr4b 2 года назад
Attack ... 👎
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