12 LEVELS OF LISZT TRANSCENDENTAL ETUDES RANKED BY DIFFICULTY - SHOWING AND EXPLAINING WHY

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Having played the 12 Etudes for some years now I wanted to share my subjective opinion on how to rank them and why (being asked that often), playing the beginning of each one.
Etudes I recorded already and are on my channel:
No.1: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
No.2: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
No.3: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
No.4: • LISZT MAZEPPA WITH SCO...
No.9: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
No.11: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
No.12: • FRANZ LISZT - ETUDE NO...
Tutorial on Mazeppa: • Video
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@rachm06 7 месяцев назад

I just started feux follets, i'm not a professional so sometimes I found it difficult even to read it slowly because at low speed it totally makes no sense, as there are so many dissonant chords. I really can't grasp how brilliant Liszt was to write such a piece that at high speed become so beautiful!

@horoffra 7 месяцев назад

😊🙏

@GabrielSantos-qe9lu 9 месяцев назад

Great video, I'm enjoying binge-watching your channel! I'm learning number 10 now, its really a challenge!

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Love 10 😊

@loganm2924 9 месяцев назад

I personally think #1 is technically easier than #3, it's mostly all techniques that beginners learn, arpeggios and chords. I find #12 the second hardest from me, but the only ones I've played in full are 1, 3, and 5.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

1 at good speed is not easy

@ludicroussealanimations3643 9 месяцев назад

hi rein 🥺

@Katsariss 5 месяцев назад

well if you think about it that way, feux follets is also just mostly arpeggios?

@loganm2924 5 месяцев назад

@@Katsariss no it’s not

@Katsariss 5 месяцев назад

@@loganm2924 how so?

@CharlieFretwellPianist 3 месяца назад

My favourite are definitely wilde jagd, feux follet and 2 at the minute but they are all so good

@metaman1831 9 месяцев назад

I’m planning on starting a Liszt Etude! I’ve mostly done Chopin so I want to go explore more repertoire.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Grat idea 😊

@annikanilsson6152 9 месяцев назад

Simply brilliant - thank you!

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Thanks 😊

@Seenall 9 месяцев назад

Good and informative video, thank you Maestro 🙏

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Thank you too 😊

@clementj2005 2 месяца назад

Classement bien pertinent que je partage totalement. Berezovsky, Arrau, Ofchinikov les ont totalement maîtrisés, impensable ! Merci vidéo intéressante

@HarmoniousMelodies457 8 месяцев назад

I love Liszt’s transcendental etude: I consider this as my “bible” alongside my piano technique(scales, arpeggios, etc.)book: after practicing one of the 12, almost all piano repertoire feels easier to sight read and learn.

@innerfaith2296 9 месяцев назад

Very nice suit man! ❤❤

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Thank you, its a nice one to wear in the winter.

@tristanmerla6960 9 месяцев назад

Très instructif. Et effictevement, je travail en ce moment simultanément la 2 et la 4. Je ne suis pas assez avancé pour parler de chaque section ni des intentions à apporter par la suite. Mais d'un point de vu purement mecanique j'avance beaucoup plus aisément sur Mazeppa.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Bon courage

@LISZT- 9 месяцев назад

I actually asked about this on stream on my second account 😂👍👍

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Yes I remember 😊

@maui3947 9 месяцев назад

Great video as always, still waiting for the Scriabin Routine one day

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Haha thanks, will put it on the list

@maui3947 9 месяцев назад

@@horoffra Sounds good!!

@OziCastle 9 месяцев назад

Love your videos man! Curious to know though, which is your favourite, mine are 2, 4 and 10

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Mine is 5,9,10

@louisehollyhead6807 9 месяцев назад

I largely agree but would switch a few. I'd say 1. 3 ,6, 11, 9, 8, 7 10, 12, 2, 4, 5 (I've switch 1 and 3, 8 and 7, 10 and 12, 2 and 4! But I've gone pretty much the same way just switching pairs around. I agree with your explanations. I agree Transcendentals are difficult. They're very intense. They're playable but each requires a lot of intense practice. I'm learning the 12. I always thought feux follets beyond me but I changed my mindset and I've sorted the double notes now and all the different sections but bringing it together as a whole is hard! I will get there. The most wonderful tone poems.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Good luck

@thenotsookayguy 9 месяцев назад

Good ranking 👍

@tungholau2457 9 месяцев назад

Agree that the 2 is underrated difficulty by Henle, it may be a mixture of Winter etude and chormatic etude by Chopin. The 10 one seems little bit easier than the 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12 these top six challeging trans. etudes, it is lack of jumps and more rubato in comparsions of the 8.

@ethanhopper2467 9 месяцев назад

10 has a lot of massive jumps in the left hand at the climax, over 3 octaves in the span of a triplet 16th note.

@shinnaga9367 9 месяцев назад

I have read the article with great interest. I think I understand what you mean.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Wich article?

@shinnaga9367 9 месяцев назад

It was interesting to see the process of coming to a conclusion while wondering which technique was more difficult.

@Tizohip Месяц назад

The feux follet is not made to be played too fast like the most of pianist plays, also the another works.

@TheKratas1998 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for this interesting video! Do you consider Liszt Etudes to be more challenging than e. g. pieces from the triptych Gaspard de la Nuit?

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Probably very different, never played ravel so I dont know

@MichelleAnne_harpsichord 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video😊 When are sure you know the piece like these well enough?

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

When your are satisfied and feel you master it

@GingerIndiana 9 месяцев назад

Avoir travaillé les 12 Études Transcendantes est juste incroyable... 👍. (Vous êtes belge ? On a eu le même excellent professeur au CRMB, mais je suis bien plus âgée que vous...)

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Oui je suis belge, j‘étais chez jcvd et Blumenthal

@GingerIndiana 9 месяцев назад

@@horoffra JCVD pour moi... (avec l'incomparable Teresa si vous l'avez connue 😊. Paix à son âme).

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@GingerIndiana oui j‘étais chez elle aussi.

@somchaisaelee328 9 дней назад

Hard > Very hard >..........> Impossible to play at Tempo marked.... > Insanity

@andromedaperseus954 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting ranking. I rarely saw anyone ranking no. 2 among top 5. I've never learned it so can't really comment on that. Among the 4 (4, 8, 10, 12) I've learned I think it's 10 < 4 < 8 < 12 for me. Somehow the 2/4 fingering in Mazeppa feels very natural to me, I even feel easier to play with straight 2/4 than alternating with 1/3. The section right after un poco rit. a capriccio in No. 8 is really difficult for me. No. 12... I just suck. Just out of curiosity, in terms of difficulty where would you put Prokofiev's Toccata among these etudes?

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Interesting, no idea, never played it 😊

@louisehollyhead6807 9 месяцев назад

I think no. 2 is a bit of a funny one. It looks innocuous but there is a lot crammed in there and to play it really well it is harder than it looks

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@louisehollyhead6807 agree

@tungholau2457 9 месяцев назад

no 2 is one of the most difficult trans etudes, tiring fingers playing especially 3-5 fingers, many accelrando parts etc.

@Yatagarasu. 9 месяцев назад

Is Etude no 10 a good piece to strengthen my left hand? I want to focus on my left hand technique (it lacks heavily) and put not so much focus on my right hand. Would I struggle mostly on my right hand on this etude or is it even for both hands?

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

It would yes

@faizalkhoury415 4 месяца назад

If i just finished playing bethoven appasionata and chopin 2nd ballade and chopin winter wind etude would it be sensible to learn one of these liszt etudes either no 10 or 12 or 8 and which one is better to learn???

@horoffra 4 месяца назад

Whatever motivates you is fine 😊

@faizalkhoury415 4 месяца назад

Thnx

@Topaze69-f1b 9 месяцев назад

J'adore Liszt c'est celui qui m'a donné le plus envie de tryhard le piano

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

😊

@MarcusBDavis 9 месяцев назад

I personally think number 12 is the hardest one! 🙏🏾🤨🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Do you play them all?

@nunomellomusic 2 месяца назад

In general, what is harder? The Transcendental S. 139 or the Paganini Etudes S. 141? What one should begin with?

@horoffra 2 месяца назад

I would start with paganini 1,5 and transcendante 1,3,6

@nunomellomusic 2 месяца назад

@@horoffra thanks a lot!!

@zangdaarrmortpartout 5 месяцев назад

Feux Follets: Liszt marked this piece at 120bpm. I don't get why everyone is ruining it by trying to speed run it.

@horoffra 5 месяцев назад

Because metronomic indications are no obligations, Liszt was the first to change the music of others.

@Alix777. 8 месяцев назад

Juste une question, sur ce genre de piano je suppose qu'il n'y a pas de sourdine ? 😅

@horoffra 8 месяцев назад

Non

@gloriapenny2323 8 месяцев назад

Super!!! I’d love to know how long it took you to learn all the études … so much work. I’d like to learn them all

@horoffra 8 месяцев назад

Depends if you do only that or other things at the same time

@gloriapenny2323 8 месяцев назад

@@horoffra At the moment I’m working on an all Chopin programme, and when I’ve finished it, I will plunge into Liszt.

@pompasduris 29 дней назад

Do you have the added notes of the Mazeppa run?

@horoffra 29 дней назад

Im adding them

@pompasduris 29 дней назад

@@horoffra 🙂

@pianisthenics 9 месяцев назад

Darn, I was thinking about doing this same exact video since last year 🤣 never get to do it

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

You played them too? 😊

@pianisthenics 9 месяцев назад

@@horoffra performed them in Spain, Poland last season 😁

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@pianisthenicsamazing 😊

@Alik_msk 9 месяцев назад

А что делать людям которые не понимают вашего языка?

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

RU-vid have automatic subtitles now, look in the options of the video

@Homier973 7 месяцев назад

I’ve played 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,12 and 1 is definitely easiest and 12 is so difficult people should try to learn a easy Liszt piece should go for 1,3 the technique is easy and especially 1 is very short and the technique is so easy is mostly fast runs and chord

@sidequestcharacter 6 месяцев назад

is 4 harder than 12

@Homier973 6 месяцев назад

No 5 is the hardest

@Homier973 6 месяцев назад

@@sidequestcharacter depends on ur personal technique I find no 12 harder cuz all the tremolo

@toivotoivo8380 9 месяцев назад

for me maybe 1. 5 2. 4 3. 12 4. 8 5. 6 6. 10 7. 11 8. 9 9. 7 10. 2 11. 1 12. 3 But I haven’t played them all. So it may not be qualified for evaluation. This is just my general feeling.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

You find feux follets the easyest?

@toivotoivo8380 9 месяцев назад

@@horoffra no（） this is from most difficult to most easy🌝🌝

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@toivotoivo8380 aah ok

@thenotsookayguy 9 месяцев назад

How is 6 that high up? Imo, it's the 3rd easiest Étude from the set, but that's prolly cause I have pretty big hands.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@thenotsookayguy maybe yes, the middle part is not that easy, and play the rrythm in the beginning correct is not easy

@wuxuanxiao2711 9 месяцев назад

I think 10 is easy and that's the only one I can play among this twelve

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Good for you

@alkanliszt 9 месяцев назад

Really good video. Imo they are in groups of difficulty: 3, 1 perfectly reasonable; 6, 11, 9 problems to solve; 10, 8, 7 lots of challenges; 2, 4, 12, 5 very difficult indeed (that's my approximate, subjective order, easiest to most difficult). Would like to see your take on the Liapunov etudes, which are somewhat of a successor to the Liszt ones.

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

Thanks, indeed, im not sure the liapunov are that difficult

@alkanliszt 9 месяцев назад

@@horoffra It's a while since I looked at them but 10 is a bit of a clone of Islamey and 11 is a Feux Follets type piece. I found it quite impossible to get a tempo tbh but that's perhaps me!

@horoffra 9 месяцев назад

@@alkanliszt worse looking at it for sure 😊 they are great