Lol I mean u can't fault a guy for having confidence in himself, whats he supposed to say "Oh yeah those 9 guys are better than me, I'm worse than they are" lol
I mean it’s no different than a 22 year old Peyton Manning telling the colts GM that if he didn’t pick him in the draft he would be kicking his ass for the next 15 years. Manning went out and backed it up though. Can’t fault a guy for having confidence in himself.
As a Jaguars fan there's nothing that the organization could have done for him. We tried. We're not the one that forced him to drive while impaired multiple times. He sabotaged himself
I agree with you, he ruined his own career. But I used to watch him play as a Comboy and a Jaguar and I've never seen anybody that big with his kind of speed and run after the catch ability. He was a special player and I would have liked to have watched him play more.
@The One I remember every time he got in trouble it involved alcohol. It's sad man, I know I keep saying it but watching him at OSU was a treat. He was dominant.
He went back to college, taking classes at a community college in Traverse City, MI. A couple of high school buddies took classes with him, and one even claimed to work out with him a few times at a local gym, as he was prepping for the comeback with Indy.
The Lawrence Phillips story is just so heartbreaking and tragic. The guy was abused throughout his childhood. The abuse caused him to go down the wrong path, which was assault charge after assault charge, and eventually, he tragically took his own life in prison. I just watched the full documentary about it.
@@herbb8547 Well, it does affect people differently. Some people do something about it, i.e., therapy, or you name it and actually make themselves stronger. Some people don't and let it develop into problems later in life, such as anger issues or criminal activity, you name it. Don't get me wrong, It does suck that he had such a horrible and abusive childhood, but none of that is an excuse for the horrible things he did.
@@RB-34 For sure, I'm not justifying those actions at all. Don't get me wrong, it does suck that he had such a horrible childhood. I don't wish that on anybody. But that is absolutely no excuse to do the things he did.
Dwayne Haskins Jr. has to be on this list, he was literally drafted to the most dysfunctional organization and a head coach who didn’t want him. He was automatically set up for failure
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What about Rosen suggests that he did not have a "fair crack" at a starting QB role? Sometimes you get one or two games, along with hundreds of hours of team practice to get the starting role. He got his chance.....fairly.
The problem was he was made a starting QB on a team that had no business putting a rookie in that situation. Looking at the other QBs taken ahead of him- Mayfield was a victim of early success and not being able to sustain, Darnold was put in a nearly identical situation but at least given more than 1yr on bad teams to try to prove himself and Allen would’ve been the same as he and Darnold if not for Daboll and getting Diggs to be his security blanket. Living in AZ it irritates me that Rosen was not given a fair chance, Fitz was unceremoniously forced into retirement and Kingsbury failed upward to not only an NFL head coaching job but an extension that pays him for the next 5yrs to be a “consultant” at USC where he will either mold Edwards into the next Mahomes or doom him to have the promising ups and depressing downs that Kyler has had.
@@jsivco3sivco785 that's irrelevant. Same franchise, same team. Changing cities doesn't change that. He was drafted by the Rams organization. The organization that is located in LA, that's where the history is.
As a hard-core WSU fan Ryan Leaf is a conflicting one. I truly think what made him a bust wasn't as much of him lacking talent wise. As it was more his own mental health issues smh. That and being drafted into a rough situation. I truly wish Gardner Minshew would get a real shot in the NFL cause that dude has the ability to be a starter. He also was drafted to a team that planned to Tank for Trevor Lawrence before the season. Traded away all the key players for picks and when Gardner was keeping games competitive even winning them he was benched because that's not really what the Jags wanted at the time. Instead of realizing they had a diamond in the rough. They wanted the superstar in thr next draft. But Minshew was a QB who sat behind Hurts and Tua on Alabamas roster until Mike Leech talked him into coming to WSU and he played 1 college year and was drafted. Given time and support minshew would definitely thrive. Side note. The current WSU QB is a BALLER. Look up highlights of Cameron Ward and you will be blown away
I'm a husky fan from that Era. Pure talent wise?? Ryan Leaf had the best arm I ever saw, just highly immature, and didn't want to put the effort in to be better
Every high pick goes into a rough situation and bruh has more than enough resources to get help...no excuse and for the life of me....if every player had everything they needed to succeed then it wouldn't be competition, like the constant bs rhetoric of if this QB had this defense, if this one had better coaching....thts wht separates the ok from the pros, when is Gardner gon do sumn for himself besides skating by on being likable
Here's an honorable mention, Odell Thurman. Marvin lewis regarded him being the closest thing he's seen to Ray Lewis. His rookie year dude had over 100 tackles and 5 int in 2005. Caught a dui in the offseason and never played a down in the nfl after his suspension
If a player gets drafted high, struggles at team #1, gets traded, struggles again, gets cut, signed, struggles a third time... yeah, it wasn't the system at team #1.
Tim Couch should have been on this list. He could make all the throws and analyzed the field well. Unfortunately he played behind the worst offensive line in the NFL every year and never had many weapons around him. Had he been drafted by most other teams, he likely would have had a great career.
David Carr and Tim Couch were doomed from the beginning too. Becoming the starters in their rookie years for expansion teams with incompetent front offices, they never had a chance.
Am I the only one who notices that most of these players are people who have gotten into a lot of trouble with the police or didn’t do team activates. That is why it is so important to not act like that, especially in your rookie year
Grade the Top 20 free agent signings of the 2023 offseason Here’s my opinion Odell Beckham Jr. C+ Mecole Hardman A CJ Gardner-Johnson A+ Adam Thielen C Mike Gesicki A Orlando Brown Jr. A+ Miles Sanders B- Jamaal Williams A+ Juju Smith-Schuster B+ Allen Lazard A David Montgomery D- Jakobi Meyers B Patrick Peterson C+ Mike McGlinchey C Tremaine Edmunds B- Jessie Bates III C- Taylor Heinicke A- Javon Hargrave A+ Jimmy Garappolo D Derek Carr B
When Mike Price was hired then shortly thereafter fired by Alabama, Ryan Leaf reached out to his old coach, invited him to his ranch to get away from the media hype. He has shown real compassion for others.
I caught a lot of Josh Rosen games live when he was at UCLA, and I'm pretty confident that it wouldn't have mattered which team drafted him--he would have been a bust anywhere because he didn't make good decisions. And evidence for that is the fact that he's had the chance to compete for jobs on a number of pro teams now and has never come close to getting the starting job. His "nine mistakes ahead of me" interview pretty well sums him up. Also, teams should have known Tony Mandarich was going to be a bust because everyone knew he was taking more roids than Brian Bosworth, and he turned into flabby bitch tits man as soon as the nfl made him stop.
The one thing I wonder with Rosen, and we'll never know, was would he have been better if he ever played for a stable offensive system. At UCLA he had three different offensive coordinators all three years there, goes to the Cardinals and has two offensive coordinators in one season. He was constantly under pressure at UCLA, some of it his fault, and constantly under pressure playing for the Cardinals. He never seemed to be in a stable environment so I wish there was an alternate world where we could see if this had an effect on him or not.
3rd Time's the charm to get my video request TPS. I would love to see a video regarding the hot takes that you made prior to the start of the season that were both SPOT ON and DEAD WRONG
Oh Mark Brunell too, and then there’s Tua idk if we can call em great yet, but yeah not a big list at least not in recent times that I can think of who were great.
I'll never understand the "what if" behind Rosen, he's ending up in situations with open QB competitions and can't win the job, what's that tell you five years in?
I swear there is a paid online army to push the whole "but, but, he never got a fair shot" narrative. You never see it brought up for any other QB drafted by a bad team even though it happens every year.
Mandarich was definitely humbled. Prior to his comeback with Indy, he took some accounting courses at a community college in Traverse City, Michigan. A couple of my high school buddies were in the class with him, and talked abotu him being a nice, unassuming guy, a far cry from the "Incredible Bulk" days.
*Steve Keim trying to throw shade at Kyler by bringing up that Bosa quote…when in fact Kyler was his best pick out of YEARS of horrible decisions. Congratulations Steve…you played yourself.🤦🏽♂️*
He wasn't doomed until the injuries to his collarbone. Being drafted close to home, and being told by management to go ahead and hang out there set a lot of wheels in motion. Matt Millen admits that not having Rogers stay around the team and having that structure was one his his biggest mistakes as a GM. Among many, many others, of course.
@@mangrove He was doomed from the start, he was addicted to weed and pills coming out of college. a broken collarbone isn't going to show up on a drug test. he failed a drug test 4 times in 3 years. He also had quite a few off the field incidents. I like to imagine in an alternate universe Charles went to a stable organization like the Steelers, or Patriots. RIP Charles Rogers.
Should have put Dan McGwire on this list. His head coach (Chuck Knox) did not want him and refused to go to the press conference introducing the young QB. Whom did Knox want? Brett Farve!!!!
Just gotta say....Tony Mandarich was a very solid tackle in Indy. He was just soo juiced up in college (back when nobody tested "amateurs") he obviously thought he was the sh!t. Damn near the same happened with Brian Bosworth...once certain performance enhancing drugs were finally abolished from the NFL, some of these "can't miss" prospects failed.
I don't know if you can call Bosworth's acting career successful. It was more more successful than his football career for sure, but it was a low bar to beat
It wouldn't matter for Rosen, the speed of the game was too fast for him. His reads were too slow and by the time he wanted to throw to a receiver, the def had already converged onto the receiver. There was a good video showing why he sucked.
I feel like David Carr was pretty well doomed from the start. Expansion teams are pretty much never good at the start but until recently, I feel like Carr was present for a lot of the Texans' lowest points. He started with no o-line and they never really got him one the entire time he was there.
Lawrence Phillips is a perfect example of what happens when you tell someone, “you’re special and we’re going to give you a pass (again) for your criminal behavior”. What did you expect would happen?
Joey Harrington was doomed, thanks to Marty F'n Mornhinweg. Matt Millen wanted to have a marquee-type name for the team's move to Ford Field, and drafted Harrington over Mornhinweg's objections; Mornhinweg fancied himself a QB starmaker after his work with Jeff Garcia in SF, and believed that he could turn Mike McMahon into another star. That post-draft presser where Millen looked morose and Mornhinweg refused to attend was a harbinger. Harrington wasn't a West Coast Offense-type, and the coaches he played under (Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci) didn't want him.
Hey the Boz was a business man first and then an actor then a football player. He made the I hate Boz shirts and sold them to the fans of the team he was playing now that's a smart business man.
i really wanted Justin Blackmon to succeed. he had all the talent to be the NFLs next great WR. As for Rosen, i think Cards made a huge mistake drafting Kyler. they just drafted Rosen, they could have used that #1 pick to trade down and get more picks, or draft the top player on their own board, Nick Bosa.
Isaiah Wilson problems was totally self inflicted,we as far in Nashville had high hopes for him but my man just wanted the money and didn’t want to be a professional
How is David Carr not on this list. Nobody was more set up to fail that he was. He was the #1 overall draft pick in 2002 by an expansion team and had no weapons and zero protection from his offensive line.
