12 things I love and hate about the Harley Davidson LiveWire | Love Hate Sandwich review 

Just saw this bike in person at the dealership (US), a white model, and it’s a stunning bike! Looks absolutely gorgeous in person. Has a futuristic look while still retaining a classic Harley style

Thanks. Really useful information, especially on range and charging time.

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The American outback lol never heard that before

I'm not a biker but I've been driving (and public charging) EVs for about 7 years. Firstly, you're right, the UK charging infrastructure is rubbish due to a lack of good policy and incompetence. If it was taking an hour to charge the bike, something was wrong. A typical charge for that bike should take about 10 minutes. The LiveWire battery apparently has a usable capacity of 13.6kWh which means it would theoretically charge from 0%-100% in under 20mins at a 50kW rapid charger (like the Ecotricity charger, which was taken over by Gridserve btw). But, you'd normally only charge to about 80% on a rapid charger and not from zero. The maximum rate of charge is determined by the circuitry in the bike and there are currently no EVs that I know of that can take full advantage of a 350kW rapid chargepoint. If the LiveWire could, you'd be looking at a charge time of around 1 minute! Like a lot of people, I'm surprised that HD has been so quick to enter the electric arena but they've done the right thing. As a side note, and as a non-biker, I can't wait for all bikes to be electric simply for the reduction in noise pollution. What bike enthusiasts called 'sound' is, to the rest of us, just the incredibly intrusive droning noise of someone practising scales on a trombone.

I bought a 2020 Zero DSR and it lasted 2 months before it died, permanently damaged the battery (which Zero told me they won't fix), then DIED AGAIN 7 MONTHS LATER. Zero makes shit!!

Thanks for this video. I sort of wonder if I would feel vulnerable being so silent in traffic.

I was interested in the Livewire until they announced the price. I dont think they will sell many, most people will buy a Zero instead.

I understand all this electric scooters, electric motorcycle it’s all about saving gas I get it you guys solved that. Here’s my another concern. Since it’s electric cars don’t hear you but, you’re there. For safety can they put speakers with module with different sounds of motorcycles so that cars they know you’re there. I hope they thought about that.

Great review. Tested one today in Paris. Got off my Zero FXE and onto the Livewire One. It felt so stable and planted and was so much more chilled than the 135kg zero. I love my current bike and mainly ride in heavy city traffic but I think I'm going to take the plunge and get one. The Del Mar is about to come out and one was available to sit on, but I prefer the looks of the livewire and it left me itching to ride it more. I don't usually do long trips so I'd be happy charging it overnight in my garage once a week, if that. The only downsides I felt were slightly tiring on the wrists and I felt like I'd got off a horse after one hour but I'm sure I'd get used to it.

Two things that just kill the electric motorcycle concept is of course the battery and charging issues. Battery doesn’t last long enough, ie. range, and it takes too damn long to charge! For electric bikes to really make it they need to fully charge in 30 minutes or considerably less preferably, and it needs to last twice as long or more, 200-300 miles at actual highway speeds 70-80mph. Of course the technology for that, if it even exists, is a ways off at this point. Like you said; at this point the electric motorcycle is a toy for the rich.

Very useful video, thanks. It was between this and the Pan America. Defo the PA, can't be faffed with all the charging.

When you were talking about the brakes I noticed the branding on the tire too. I also feel it to be... un-needed.🤣

The attention is just on the novelty. It will dial down, hopefully.

I bumped into journalists and presenters for the motorbike show at a local Tesco with one of these and two others and they seemed genuinely pleased to talk about the bikes they were reviewing. I ended up making my excuses to leave 😂

My 2 things- Love: It's electric Hate: It's electric

Lol Everything sounds so much more official with a British accent ! Great video

Whats the comfort like? I can't tell for sure if the riding position is upright or not. I wonder if there are any handlebar mods or anything to get to a 0 degree upright riding position. Comfort to me is number one, and I think a lot of Harley rider do care about comfort.

As far as the charging time, its the same as putting fuel in a tank. Only so much fuel can flow into the gas tank at a time. Charge time, range and costs are ALLLLLL going to improve as scale goes up! The future is now!

Very interesting review. I test rode one the other day here in the states, and it was an amusing experience to say the least. The bike was great, but there was zero love or interest for it at the dealership. It was sitting alone in the showroom with like 20 miles or less on it. Only one single model and color in a showroom with probably 50 other bikes. In the time I was there, even with a very large crowd of people milling about, no one-- I mean no one but myself-- was checking the bike out at all or asking questions about it. Harley riders are not part of the EV crowd at all. They are still using ancient technology for nostalgia and image. How is the LiveWire viewed in the UK? Any more interest for it there?

He sounds like Alan Rickman... His narrative grows on me

Your short coming list is subjective. Your charging networks are not the bikes fault. Attention is bad?? Right, it is first generation technology. Right it is a Harley, they are all expensive. We owners love ours, and yes, it’s not my only Harley. ⚡️🇺🇸😎🇺🇸⚡️

i have one to,all Black, the longer i have it ,the more Hate , charging problems, charging problems, charging problems,, last night for the second time it totaly failed me! then the fance display say's phone servise ! and thats all you get! dead in the water, raining , did not even get past the 336 km range, need to get it home, and the dealer has to pick it up for the second time!! for a 34,000. euro Bike!! but the riding is phenomenal !

and now?the livewire will be 16000gbp without the harley badge.

Enjoying this "rides stuff" channel. Big question tho... What is the filling in your love hate sandwich? Marmite?

what does it cost to charge?

The LiveWire has a small battery with a useable capacity of just 13.4 kWh. Clearly, it needs double the capacity, at least. With improved power density, this will be available, in a few years . . . . A 7 kW home charger should charge the LiveWire from 0-100% in about 2 hours. It looks like Harley have limited the maximum charge to about 15 kW. This is less than one third of the capacity of 50 kW chargers. Harley probably did this to stop you cooking the battery. If the LiveWire could accept the full 50 kW then it would go from 10-90% in 15 minutes. The last 10%, from 90-100%, is always very slow. Even on a mobile phone!

Chevy bolt is $30k brand new and charges in under an hour as well. Gets around a 250 mile range. For the...same...price. Cool bike, but to expensive

Hey friend. Do you get much water spraying up through that little gap on the rear fender?

you need to watch Freddie dobbs on youtube where he ride Harley Davidson livewire to london

Wunderin.. How much dollars/lbs/euros to charge ?

You Really need to see this Video! "HD Livewire Deathtrap"

It's a 7KWH onboard charger so unfortunately that's the limit. Also if you only charge to 80% you would be out of there twice as fast. Charging is very slow passed 80%

Over an hour to charge......well thats killed that idea then

55-60 mph isn’t gonna work for my daily commute.

$8,000 not a penny more =))

How many hours to charge?

Those damn dummy SOFTWARE engineers at Harley Davidson and their shabby charger codes could NEVER figure out the complex algorithms required for electron transport with a 350 KW charger! Which is pathetic, cause all that's required is to download extra RAM from the cloud and encrypt your optical GPU until javascript segfaults the virtual CPU. I mean, c'mon guys. Basic stuff.

I’ve only got one word that comes to mind watching this review….right.

What license do you need to ride one of these??

You'll need an infinitely brighter light than that to even find the American Outback. But CHECK ME OUT, I found the Wild West with nothin but a flesh light.

Oi mate, is that bike electric?

Expensive Piece of Crap!!!!

Petrol

250kg ??

they are getting there with technology slowly but still needs a lot of work to make it right.....honestly i would never buy this bike...no exhaust, no bike :)

I will never buy an electric bike

would be nice if you could speak english

Nope!!!!!

livewire is not a real harley davidson