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All work & no play make Jack not only dull, but also evolutionarily disadvantaged...
QUICK NOTE: The most commonly-cited explanation for animal play (practicing direct analogs of survival behavior) doesn't square with all the evidence. Check out this paper: www.sciencedirect.com/science/...
Links for the Curious
“Taking Play Seriously,” by Robin Marantz Henig - www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/mag...
Juvenile peer play experience and the development of the orbitofrontal and medial prefrontal cortices (Bell, Pellis, & Kolb 2009) - www.sciencedirect.com/science/...
“More Play, Please - The Perspective of Kindergarten Teachers on Play in the Classroom” (Lynch 2015) - www.journalofplay.org/sites/ww...
“Vygotsky Meets Neuroscience - The Cerebellum and the Rise of Culture through Play” (Vandervert 2015)
www.journalofplay.org/sites/ww...
“Plans Unveiled for Star Wars-Inspired Themed Resort at Walt Disney World,” by Jennifer Fickley-Baker - disneyparks.disney.go.com/blo...
The National Institute for Play, a nonprofit dedicated to advocating play for adults & children - www.nifplay.org/science/patter...
“Symbolic Play: The Development of Social Understanding” (Bretherton 1984) - goo.gl/J1hMxe
“The Ambiguity of Play” (Sutton-Smith, 1987) - goo.gl/H7oZNz
“How Play Makes for a More Adaptable Brain, a Comparative & Neural Perspective” (Pellis, Pellis, & Himmler 2015) - files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1...
“The Nature of Play - An Overview” (Henricks 2008) -
www.journalofplay.org/sites/ww...
“Animal Play: Evolutionary, Comparative, and Ecological Perspectives” (Summary by Bekoff & Beyers, 1998) - cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Beko...
“Examining playfulness in adults: Testing its correlates with personality, positive psychological functioning, goal aspirations, and multi-methodically assessed ingenuity” (Proyer 2012) - www.psychologie-aktuell.com/fi...

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@radat1277 6 лет назад

How are you not a bigger channel. I'm never, ever, ever disappointed by your content. It's amazing. Thank you.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

You're my ray for the day. :D Thank *you!* imgur.com/a/WiI59

@pabloagsutinnavavieyra2308 6 лет назад

I think I should comment more in here, so I'll start by saying: The best intro I've seen so far! I love watching and rewatching your videos at random, it gives me a sense pleasure from the freedom instead of feeling it like an endeavor I should finish in am specified amount of time. I really love this episode. I like the take you gabe on this episode starting with such an interesting concept that, weirdly, I didn't hear before. I'd love to go someday. This episode got me thinking on something funny because on one way I love to play with kids (whitoit worring to much about how people my ahe see me, amd many people actually find it enjoyable). And from this moments I specially like when in between the games I'm having with them, I hear and interesting reflection or world view from them that seems pretty interesting to me. But when I'm doing something "more serious" like maths or writting I tend to be playfull with words and stmbols, trying to see of I can find new ways of using them

@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 6 лет назад

I think the idea of puritans being dour and against humour and play has been misinterpreted. When Oliver Cromwell was in Parliament signing the death warrant of Charles I, he snatched the pen out of the hand of Henry Martin and drew on his face. Then let Martin do back to him. Another time at a major political summit he started a pillow fight. I can't imagine this happening these days.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

I'm reading a little more about Puritan/Calvinist attitudes in the Americas, & it's much more complex & varied than I represented here (which should have been a duh), but I think there's probably enough evidence for some seriously un-playful cats hanging out in New England: "One of these wicked youths in Andover was brought before the magistrate, and it was charged that he 'Sported and played and by Indecent Gestures and Wry Faces caused laughter and misbehavior in the Beholders.'" (Ref: www.reformed.org/books/gutenberg/sabbath/index.html?mainframe=/books/gutenberg/sabbath/The_Sabbath_in_Puritan_New_England.html )

@cemented508 6 лет назад

the description had me laughing. you are the MOST underrated channel on youtube.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

Why thank you! ^.^ If you've any friends who you think might be into it, don't forget blah share blah!

@Pingbov 6 лет назад

Duuuuuude you blowing my mind

@daddyleon 6 лет назад

I'd love to be an anonimous Drone or Stormtrooper.

@Ensivion 6 лет назад

Play may or may not be evolutionary beneficial, but it might not even matter. In a more ideal world, we wouldn't have to work as much, or even at all. What I see is the "progress" of society is to reduce the amount of basic survival requirements for humans, and ultimately will lead (barring any crazy environmental/social unheavals) to a post scarcity world. A post scarcity society has to find something to do with its time and reward people who create entertainment appropriately - that's a cool question - and you've pointed out in other videos that AI could do this for us. Society hasn't caught up with how little work that people have to do quite yet.

@pabloagsutinnavavieyra2308 6 лет назад

Interesting comment. Specially if we use it to think about phenomena like binge watching on Netflix. And at the same time got me thinking on that my recreational activities should be a little more interactive.

@itisdevonly 5 лет назад

If you haven't already read it, I highly recommend reading Peter Gray's Ludic Theory of Human Nature (www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/200906/play-makes-us-human-i-ludic-theory-human-nature)

@THUNKShow 5 лет назад

Thanks! I'll definitely take a look!

@Blazer1408 6 лет назад

Great video. Hey, do you, by any chance, know of some philosopher (besides hilary putnam) that has pointed out to a similitude between the arguments of the non-cognitivists to support expressivism and emotivism and quine´s argument to support the indeterminacy of translation, the inescrutability of reference and therefore his skepticism about meaning ???

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

Dude, you just blew right by me. I recognize some of those terms, but my amateur philosophy hasn't taken me anywhere close to being able to draw that parallel. :( Sorry!

@Blazer1408 6 лет назад

Not problem, just probing. It´s just that right now I´m working on those subjects and well... just asking. And dude, if you call what you do amateur philosophy... I can´t imagine how amazing it would be if you do it professionally. Keep up the great work.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

If the channel was monetized, I'd definitely definitely introduce myself at parties as a "professional philosopher," but I just read books! Thanks for the kind words, they're very much appreciated. :)

@BroCactus 6 лет назад

Do you feel you still have a good understanding of topics you may have discussed in some of your earliest videos? This channel covers such a wide array of conceptual ideas and sometimes I find myself clicking back on your older stuff only to realize that I had forgotten most of the material. It'd be cool to be able to meander through life with all of these ideas at your cognitive disposal at any given time, but the phrase use it or lose it comes to mind. You seem like a renaissance man and perhaps it's different for you because you actually created the content so there is much more internalization going on there. Maybe my memory just sucks.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

I can remember general concepts pretty well, but I definitely forget the details (e.g. I'm glad I coined the phrase "Dweck Effect" or I'd never be able to remember her name). It probably helps that the earliest videos are crap - they tend to be very vague, meander-y, & not well-researched, so just knowing the overall shape of what I was on about at the time supplies all the info I need. ;) It also helps that I only make videos about stuff that's interesting to me - I can imagine that some episodes are just boring for many people, & it's gotta be hard to internalize something that only Joshes care about. Thanks for the ego boost regarding being a "renaissance man," that's very kind of you to say. Maybe someday I'll qualify! :D

@billbrowning3021 6 лет назад

Great video. Is it just my monitor or is your color balance off? You seem a bit more "yellow" than usual.....

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

Cap'n, I've locked down the autofocus problem! Ye cannae expect me to fix everythin' in one go! ;) Still working out kinks with the new camera. Next week: WHITE BALANCE!

@sanseb5196 6 лет назад

I learned early in life that being weird is fine, and to embrace weirdness in spite of others. Now I'm a bit more critical of weirdness and just want things to work without making more work. Doesn't matter how weird it is, if it's efficient and I'm comfortable with it, who cares?

@MetsuryuVids 6 лет назад

I haven't even watched Star Wars yet. I watched Star Trek (TNG mostly) and I loved it, but I watched the first movie of SW and I almost fell asleep. Should I give it another go, or do people say it's good mostly for nostalgia?

@hugo54758 6 лет назад

Give it another go

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

It's probably not just nostalgia. Probably. I can't tell for sure, because I'm nostalgic. ;) For me, the best part of the original trilogy is the worldbuilding - a bunch of interesting lore is constantly hinted at, but only ever filled in when it's 100% essential to the story. That's partially why there's such a rich "extended universe;" all sorts of cool stuff is obliquely referenced without anyone lecturing about it to the camera. The plot is basic hero's journey stuff, but that worldbuilding makes it interesting to dwell in that universe. "WTF is this Empire about? What's a Kessel Run? What are the limits of the Force? Why is this Darth Vader character in a suit? Why doesn't everyone have a lightsaber?" Great imagination fuel.

@calebr7199 6 лет назад

Metsuryu You should watch it again. I'm not sure if by the first movie you mean The phantom menace or a new hope. The three prequels aren't very good so if you can't stand to watch those start with episode 4.

@MetsuryuVids 6 лет назад

OK, now I actually think I'll give it a serious shot and watch it all, even if I don't like the first.

@daddyleon 6 лет назад

It's mostly nostalgia, I think. Especially if you lik Star Trek.. I guess you're into a very different kind of theme anyway.

@TheAgavi 6 лет назад

This is so weird. I was just fantasizing about the good old days when my cousins and I would make-believe we were Predator aliens.

@Concentrum 6 лет назад

Hi, I enjoy watching your videos, there's one thing that has been annoying me, though. And that is your color balance, your skin in this video has a green/yellow tint for instance, and sometimes your videos are way too dark alltogether, gotta check those curves man, it's such an easy fix.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

Yep. Here at THUNK labs, we're dedicated to the scientific process, so we only ever fix 1 thing at a time. This week: focus. Next week: WHITE BALANCE!

@doktor_ghul 6 лет назад

Play isn't owned by a corporation; Disney owns Star Wars, so playing within their rules defeats the whole purpose of it. I won't be going to this hotel. I'd rather exercise my own imagination, rather than letting their rules box me in.

@THUNKShow 6 лет назад

Actually, Disney acquired the rights to all play sometime last month; if you're going to exercise your imagination, you'll have to talk to their lawyers. ;) There are interesting relationships between rules & play. One possible criterion of playful behavior is spontaneous rule-generation & rule-breaking (e.g. "this twig is now a wand, now it's a sword"), & all formal games involve some sort of agreement to be bound by rules to facilitate the experience (e.g. Settlers of Catan isn't much fun as just a box of boring wooden figures). I'm not knocking freely exercising imagination, but I think there's room for both!