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00:00 - Welcome back to Monitors Unboxed
00:25 - Can A Better Version of ClearType Fix OLED?
06:25 - Can Screen Coatings be Changed?
08:54 - Good Large Format Ultrawide Options?
11:24 - Can a Single Large Monitor Replace Multiple Smaller Ones?
12:51 - Downsides to Running Monitor at High Brightness?
15:28 - Fair Price for Buying Second Hand Monitor?
19:33 - Is Monitor Overclocking Worthwhile?
22:50 - What Are The Differences Between Color Spaces?
30:41 - OLED for 1440p vs Mini LED 4K for Gaming?
33:44 - Is ‘Fake’ HDR Worth Enabling?
QD-OLED vs WOLED Burn In, My Thoughts - April Q&A
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@swadeisno1 Год назад

For managing a large monitor - Windows power tools + fancy zones - You can easily size a window to whatever size and and section of the screen that you want.

@SirRFI Год назад

Thanks for explaining color spaces. Looking forward dedicated video elaborating on the subject, but also being "beginner friendly". Likewise, I'd like to see videos explaining 8 bit vs 10 or 12 bit colors, as well as what exactly HDR is.

@genjimain Год назад

Also interested in this. Never understood the point of 12 bit colour space.

@cantti Год назад

This. Even if these seem like pretty basic terms, I have yet to see or hear a sensible or well documented explanation for any of these. Questions like: Does setting a 8bpc, 10bpc or 12bpc signal in nvidia control even make a difference? If so, where? Only in HDR? Or SDR too? And how can it when Windows colours on a very fundamental level seems to work on RGB values between 0-255, which 8 bits per channel (so 24 bits of colour data) should be able to already fully cover.

@PainterVierax Год назад

@@cantti well you already figured it out by yourself. 8bpc already covers full sRGB so those extra bit modes are just for widegamut colorspaces.

@user-uy1vj2wm9x Год назад

that would be nice. Also maybe a guide on how to configure windows for amd and nvidia depending on the mode.

@eukariootti1 Год назад

Amount of bits not only limits the amount of (theoretical) colours, but also number of gray tones between black and white. For example, 24 bit colours (3 x 8b): R(ed) 2^8 = values 0...255 G(reen) 2^8 = values 0...255 B(lue) 2^8 = values 0...255 Colors = 2^(3 x 8) = 2^24 = 16,777,216 Black = 0, 0, 0 White = 255, 255, 255 Grayscale = R, G and B are 1...254 --> *only 254 levels* between black and white. With traditional Video black it's even more limited: 17...234 --> *only 218 levels* between black and white. *HDR* means High Dynamic Range. Optimally all ot these, perfectly executed: * Huge range of brightness from 0 nits (OLED) to thousands of nits. Simultaneously & Full Screen. * Huge amount of values between those two extremes --> always perfectly smooth gradients * Wide Color Gamut. For example, 76 % of Rec. 2020, if 100 % isn't achievable. * Often 4K, like UHD Blu-rays and 4K Gaming with actually HDR capable monitor. * When done right, picture is much more natural/immersive than ever before (basic sRGB monittor, DVD...).

@aleek4481 Год назад

Thanks for explaining the colour spaces Tim. I found the overlay diagram overlaying all the colour spaces very useful and it'll really help me shop for my next monitor which will be my first venture into HDR content. Looking forward to a more detailed deep dive video as well. I really appreciate that no question is too basic or silly for you, thanks again.

@Dtats2 Год назад

That explanation on color spaces was great! THX TIM!

@coreyrueckheim3881 Год назад

Yes please, an in-depth video about color and colorspaces would be greatly appreciated. There are so many confusing aspects to this topic. For example, what is an example of a color that an sRGB monitor can't display? And why can't it be displayed? My guess is its because we use RGB pixels while these don't map directly to our L, M, and S-cones in our eyes. For example pure red color triggers our L-Cone but also triggers the M-Cone significantly as well. It would be great if you could help clarify these things.

@michaelthompson9798 Год назад

Thanks for info on colour spaces and standards and other info here, much appreciated Tim 🥰💪👍😇

@osamely_varan Год назад

I love this episode. very informative. informative in a simple way :)

@MentalCrusader Год назад

Windows has Fancyzones as part of their optional PowerToys Software. It makes snapping apps really nice and is very good for larger monitors or multiple monitors

@benbarclay3872 Год назад

I was think the same exact thing when watching. Fancy Zones is pretty handy and works flawlessly from my experience.

@tonyc1956 Год назад

Overclocking might not be as marginal as you think on some monitors Tim. I've got a Samsung 34" ultrawide that's rated at only 75 Hz but overriding the EDID and creating a custom resolution in NVidia control panel it can easily go higher. The max I could get was 119 Hz but it wasn't totally stable and had flickering. It will easily run 110 Hz rock solid but while researching I read that the pixel response on these panels wasn't quite fast enough so I've settled on 100 Hz. Also another factor that wasn't mentioned but applies here is the G-Sync compatibility only works up to 90 Hz. I've got a 90 Hz custom resolution setting as well if I want to use G-Sync but for the games I mostly play it isn't really necessary. 100 Hz is a noticeable improvement over 75 and my meager RTX3060 can barely push these limits anyways so it's been a pretty good hardware match so far.

@aphysically6071 Год назад

it's worth noting the subpixel rendering problem can also be fixed in WOLED monitors by a firmware update at the sacrifice of one subpixel of horizontal resolution. RWBG OLED can be shifted to WBGR in a firmware update and then you can use native BGR subpixel rendering with cleartype

@bastiangugu4083 Год назад

Regarding the single monitor vs. multiple monitors. Try fancy zones which is a part of the Power Toys. It has quite a few snapping positions.

@marcopfeiffer3032 Год назад

For me: Disabling ClearType works beautifully. Chrome is the most important app and it is respecting the change after a restart. I'm kind of surprised you considered the hacky workaround for scaling factors other than 100 or 200% in MacOS as a feature. It definitely isn't and it does decrease image quality noticeably. But font rendering on Mac is superb and does not suffer on strange subpixel layouts.

@oooooooooole Год назад

Exactly this, disabling ClearType is the solution that works best. I tried multiple, and wasn't satisfied with any until I just disabled it. Both in Windoze and Linux

@thisisdabz Год назад

Win 11 has those snapping features you are talking about built-in btw

@mrwalker6026 Год назад

Don't purchase an Oled or any monitor for that matter with the hope issues are fixed with future firmware.. Most monitor's recieve few updates and with newer models incoming their support is dropped like a hot potato

@hinatashoyo2999 Год назад

Fr Not for that price!! Paying 1000+$ for a monitor that going suffer with burn in !! In 1 year or less Or text fringing issues And also has a build in fan i them that makes noise All that for 1000$ and more is just a scam smh

@teddyoflove5897 Год назад

Purchased LG c2 for 960eur, it gets frequent updates over the Wi-Fi, that's a big plus of TV. Samsung's G8 olded 34inch should be similar. But yeah, monitors always suck at updates and almost never fully fix release problems with FW updates. This is my first OLED, so far holding strong 6 months in, if my next monitor is OLED or not will depend on how long this one will last.

@rickgear2579 Год назад

I am waiting for a an ultrawide QD-OLED at 240 Hz.

@mrwalker6026 Год назад

@@teddyoflove5897 I'd rather a monitor and not being locked to a 120Hz refresh rate..especially as I like competitive games.. I had an LG 34gn850 it got one update in 3 year's that greyed out any future firmware after it..LMFAO

@mrwalker6026 Год назад

@@rickgear2579 yep leaks suggest from TFT Central manufacturers like LG/Samsung have them coming.

@andreycamper5863 Год назад

The big traditional wide colour gamut is what a human eye can see in the electromagnetic spectrum (somewhere between radio and rontgen). There are more green colour because in the process of evolution it was important to recognize animals and different shades of green in forests. That is why all wider as sRGB gamuts have more green in it.

@mazfgit Год назад

Legend I spied you enjoying a nice time at Malt Shovel tonight. Hope the food was good! Didn't realise you were that local to me mhm haha.

@Gillhawk Год назад

Thank you for all your hard work Tim you’re my go to monitor guy! I have a question about windows HDR calibration. The app seems pretty simple however I’m concerned I don’t have it set up correctly. I think HDR on my odyssey OLED G8 looks good, but compared to the HDR on my C1 OLED in my living room looks better. Is this Miss calibrated in windows or does the C1 just have better brightness?

@1Aquadon Год назад

Thanks Tim!! Text Rendering Quality "upscaling" is a thing I'm Waiting for before i use an OLED as a monitor as a daily driver. But one could use the oled only for gaming and content consumption monitor!

@netiturtle Год назад

11:55 FancyZones, part of Microsoft PowerToys, allows creation of any number of snappable windows, in any position and size. Intuitive and easy to use, shift-drag a program reveals the zones you have created, then drop the window to activated zone

@manuelhernandez2017 Год назад

Yes to the super ultra wide replacement for 3 monitors, remember that windows and many linux OSs handle multiple windows snapping perfectly. I won't go back to triple monitors unless it's something niche like simracing or something

@henkka8517 Год назад

Good answers as always

@cromefire_ Год назад

Many applications like Chromium based Browsers or Firefox use a library called libfreetype (I hope I don't mess up the names, but I think that's the one). While it uses it's own algorithm and settings I'm pretty positive if Microsoft extended its ClearType, they would implement a similar algorithm and get those settings from ClearType. The nice thing with *a lot* of applications using this one library is that just by updating that library, extended ClearType might work well in most applications in relatively short time Might be interesting to switch out that library (should be especially easy on Linux, but might be possible on windows too, you can recompile Firefox and Chromium after all), if that already fixes all/most of the problems for at least the applications that use it. Somebody has to develop the algorithm first though and get in working in libfreetype.

@ole7736 Год назад

Fancy Zones from Windows PowerToys is a good tool for snapping windows to different areas. The only thing one large display can't do is rotating part of it into portrait mode.

@E_Sunbro Год назад

I can say my PG42UQ unit didn't like the 138Hz overclock. As soon as I had multiple desktop apps open, it would flake out and drop sync for up to 2-3 seconds at a time.

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@fracturedlife1393 Год назад

Nice one Tim!

@natenate33 Год назад

overclocking the alienware oled is a must. you can do 165hz at 10 bit with 0 downsides

@PCMonitors Год назад

The QD-OLED fringing has little to do with ClearType and is more to do with contrasting elements. Dark text or edges against a lighter background and potentially more noticeable for bright text or edges against a dark background. The fringing on WOLED models is more heavily (but not exclusively) affected by ClearType optimisation, so it would be better to use those models to determine which applications will respond to ClearType optimisation instead.

@maegnificant Год назад

I know we talked about this, but people should know that text fringing on qd-oled can be entirely worked around with dldsr (nvidia downsampling). It fixed everything for me.

@TheHighborn Год назад

i personally don't notice the fringing on QD-Oled. seen a dwf irl, and i didn't notice it. i'm buying one this week actually....

@Ironic-Social-Phobia Год назад

Hey Tim, for windows snapping you want to try fancy zones in windows power toys.

@john_hunter_ Год назад

It would be cool if you talked about moth-eye glass that reduces glare a lot. Or even tried to find a tv or monitor that uses it.

@klaesregis7487 Год назад

Would be nice if Microsoft would allow monitor makers to create additional clear type profiles and make it a more open ecosystem. Might even be beneficial for Linux.

@user-qfyutm5yg6zdfgdfgh Год назад

On qhd, you need to set the scale to 133% in Windows. Then the font rendering will be better. Although a little less information will be included on the screen.

@sergiopablo6555 Год назад

Clarity and sharpness of texts is one of the main reasons I use Macs. Whenever I use Bootcamp, I can't believe how blurry texts are in comparison. But then, Windows users would need to start using monitors at double the resolution they are used to for MS to implement Apple's solution to text and UI rendering.

@FEARmeify Год назад

Yo tim, PowerToys can fix that snapping issue you mentioned with a single large monitor.

@alphasixty1316 Год назад

I was wondering if the bias toward green was more geared toward the press ink than the electronics.

@ole7736 Год назад

Regarding HDR on large non-OLED screens: I played Doom Eternal with HDR on my LG 38WN95C with local dimming disabled. I was impressed how good it looked - notably different and much better than w/o HDR.

@jhvjkyfyv Год назад

I have LG 32GQ950B edge lit IPS. If I compare HDR and SDR, HDR is MUCH brighter and has more natural colors whereas SDR looks slightly oversaturated. Overall HDR looks slightly better in brighter scenes. I disable local dimming because its a joke on this monitor. Also HDR implementation varies between games, Doom Eternal - amazing, Witcher 3 - barely any diference.

@johnfisher5477 Год назад

I'm still stuck between the 1440p OLED vs 4k mini-led. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

@unkindbunnyyy2567 10 месяцев назад

Bro I’m in the same boat why did you decide on?

@johnfisher5477 10 месяцев назад

@@unkindbunnyyy2567 lol, gonna wait for the newly announced 32 inch 4k 240 hz by Asus coming early next year! That checks all the boxes for me :)

@PropavanSpelarPC Год назад

Regarding choosing between 4k mini led or 1440p oled monitor for gaming I think it depends on what games you play. I couldnt decide so I ended up buying the 4k 32"lg 32gq950 and the 1440p 27" pg27aqdm. Side by side 4k is noticeably more sharp. The larger 4k is perfect for games like RDR2 or Days gone and such story based games. Great open plains and lots of details. The smaller 1440p Oled is way better in fast phased games like Call of Duty and such. I do think if u can only choose one, I would recommend the 27" 1440p Oled as it is more versatile. On the other hand FPS games and such doesent suit large monitors as well. Regarding colors and true black etc, ofc the oled is better. That said a good mini led is not bad in any way and the higher resolution makes up for it a long way imo.

@BA5ALT 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for this explanation. I've been trying to decide on going 4k mini LED or 1440p OLED. I am looking to mainly play story based single player games but occasionally do play fps games, but I think I'll be ok if the performance might not be the best. Hopefully one day there'll be a 4k 27" or 32" OLED monitor.

@KMcCormick1804 6 месяцев назад

@@BA5ALTat CES 2024 Samsung or LG (I can’t remember which) actually announced a 4k 32inch QD-OLED coming later in 2024 which is something to definitely look forward to, the price however… well that’s a different story 😂

@kdcadet Год назад

Freetype on linux supports custom subpixel configurations, i believe.

@PainterVierax Год назад

It does since it has been tailored for the exotic screens on phones and tablets running Android. Also Freetype is the same Freedesktop brick embedded by MacOS display stack and by Mactype.

@DatNapk1n47 Год назад

Regarding the fact that factory overclocks never had any issues. I've had an Asus 1440p ultrawide ips monitor some 5 years ago that factory overclocked from 60Hz to 100Hz. It never broke until I sold it (after 2-3 years of use) but I noticed that in the 100Hz mode it would take noticeably longer to turn on and would go black for a few seconds when I opened a game in fullscreen. It would also sometimes stutter or very shortly go black. All issues go away at 60Hz and most at 75Hz. I tried it with GSync on (fullscreen and windowed) and off and same behavior. Maybe my unit was really bad but idk something to consider.

@teddyoflove5897 Год назад

On topic of large display replacing multiple displays. I used multiple monitors for years, then tried samsung odysey g9 super ultrawide and now using LG c2 42inch. It depends on what you use it for, if you mostly game or gaming is a large part of what you do, then don't do it. It will suck, It's impossible to play normally and view something extra on the side. You can use windowed mode, but it gets old really quick, ruining game feel and fiddling with windows can be troublesome, especially as it's impossible to properly snap game windows in most cases they have locked resolutions and aspect ratios. The best setup I ever used was 34-inch ultrawide for game and 1 27-inch monitor above it for discord/RU-vid and other stuff. Using 52inch super ultrawide or 42inch TV is extremely nice only for one purpose, and it's WORK, it's amazing for that and better than a multimonitor setup. However, as soon as you add gaming into the mix, it becomes very difficult conversation.

@qweasdzxc Год назад

Any plans to review any of the monitors with JOLED panels? I noticed the Philips 27E1N8900 (4K 60 Hz 27 inch) pop up in stores (around $800) but I don't know if it's any good and how it compares to other OLED's

@delsere7095 Год назад

I recently upgraded from the BenQ XL 2420G (1080p) to MSI G274QPF-QD (1440p) for my dual-display gaming setup. The MSI G274QPF-QD features HDR but it's only the "fake" HDR400. I am a bit disappointed as I only learned the difference afterwards. That said, I LOVE the HDR! I operate HDR all the time. I feel as though it makes the colors more accurate - without HDR the red tone looks exaggerated. There's more depth, contrast, and vibrancy to my display. And when I'm doing production activities (CAD/spreadsheets/etc), the text actually looks sharper! The only time I'll ever disable HDR is when I'm playing Classic WoW. HDR seems to dim and create too much contrast in this application. But for Diablo 4, League of Legends, Retail WoW and production tasks, I see a lot of value in having HDR400.

@adithyachennamadhavuni6155 Год назад

Great video. For my PS5 I narrowed down to buy neo g7 . But it seems to be sold out mostly. Not sure if Samsung is making a new version???

@churblefurbles Год назад

backlight brightness falls off with age, may skew color balance as you try to compensate

@muSPKWoW Год назад

When will you review the Innocn 27M2V MINI LED 160HZ IPS monitor?

@astreakaito5625 Год назад

I only had my C1 oled for a year and I already have some scanline patterns already burned in because I play retrogames a lot. I sure wish there were some software to fix it.. because it doesn't look like the pixel cleaning sees the issue on low greys, and thankfully it's only visible on the darker greys and colors but still.. I ran the TV at the absolute minimum brightness and it's the EVO panel even.

@LexLutha Год назад

Ughh what a bummer. You could try white noise on RU-vid. It worked for plasmas. The visual fuzz from back in the day

@J.I.R.A Год назад

Hey guys, could you please review a mini LED ultrawide monitor? I wonder how they’d compare against the OLED ones. They don’t seem common for now, I’ve only seen the Viewsonic XG341C-2K available, but they may be a good compromise between OLED and traditional panels.

@hinatashoyo2999 Год назад

This !! We need more MiniLed reviews!!!

@lilpain1997 Год назад

looking at other reviews this monitor you posted is not worth it at all. Costs a lot more than OLEDs and doesn't produce as good HDR and it supposedly has issues. Response times are not great, if you want 200hz it disables pretty much everything, it also has notable inverse ghosting. Lots of trailing for something that costs 1500+. So not really a great deal considering that you can buy better products for less

@J.I.R.A Год назад

@@lilpain1997 Yeah the reviews I saw for it were pretty awful, but since they’re a bit old I was hoping a firmware update could have solved most of those issues. At least the software-related ones. I haven’t been able to find any other 34” 21:9 miniLED monitors though :C

@QuantumConundrum Год назад

@@J.I.R.A I actually agree that this would be a good review to do, if only as an example of what a bad monitor is like, especially on the HUB charts. That being said, I am sure there's at least one mini LED out there that's good

@Alexandra-Rex Год назад

Not only with fonts and text rendering, it's so frustrating when software don't use the systems in Windows that are in place to make things work the same way across all programs to help with usability. Looking at you Roccat and your driver software, and also Gigabyte's drivers and software as well, and I feel like this goes for many manufacturer's driver software.

@PainterVierax Год назад

Well, in the case of fonts even Windows is not consistent with Cleartype on its own UI. There are still old win95 style windows laying around and as Tim said the new "Metro" UI isn't correctly affected by Cleartype. It looks like even Microsoft themselves gave up to give a unified display experience.

@Alexandra-Rex Год назад

@@PainterVierax That's even more frustrating.

@PainterVierax Год назад

@@Alexandra-Rex That's one of the many reasons why some people and companies simply avoid Windows as much as possible.

@Dionyzos Год назад

How often are you using that software though?

@PainterVierax Год назад

@@Dionyzos that's not really relevant. If features are advertised the software that enables them should follow APIs provided by the targeted OS instead of crudely reinventing the wheel and creating new bugs.

@cbenini87 Год назад

Any recommendations for a smaller monitor that prioritizes picture quality as opposed to latency/refresh rate. Most of the recommendations I see have to do with things pro gamers prioritize like latency. Not that I don’t enjoy those things but I prefer good picture quality and prefer playing on a smaller monitor for my ps5. I am currently playing on the AOC24g2. Is there a smaller size (24inch monitor(s)) that you recommend that prioritize picture quality or am I best off sticking with my AOC. Thank you in advance.

@slothsarecool Год назад

I got mine yesterday, it’s alright but 1440p looks like trash compared to 4k that I’m used to with PS5, even if some games are upsamples it looks so much better. Maybe TVs just look better in general I’m not sure, but it’s a big difference I find.

@Mr.Genesis Год назад

OC of a 60Hz to 75Hz is highly worth.. At higher refresh rates it's unnecessary. But that 20% increase in refresh rate from 60 to 75 does make a difference

@sudo3644 11 месяцев назад

Could you review the Acer Predator X32 FP? I'm super curious how it compares to a neo g8.

@FcryCola Год назад

Any news about the second AW3423DWF firmware patch?

@evenAndre Год назад

There is just something that irks me when having large ultrawide vs smaller monitors. Maybe its just harder to focus on one "screen" when it's artificially divided, and that throws me off.

@GoldSrc_ Год назад

I've had my 60Hz monitor overclocked to 75Hz for years without problems. Most 60Hz monitors can reach 75Hz, the issue is that some games cannot recognize that refresh rate and turn it back down to 60Hz. If anyone wants to try, just make sure you use the pixel clock patcher from Monitortests first, then use CRU.

@Alexandra-Rex Год назад

Maybe a question for the nest Q&A. Would it be possible to save ICC profiles into the monitor itself, and maybe have a profile for each mode you run the monitor at, so it can switch the profile when you switch mode, cause the monitor knows when you run it as sRGB or HDR, so it would automatically use the profile that you set for the mode you use. Wouldn't this make the calibrating you've done just work on whatever you do on your PC as it's done in the monitor and have nothing to do with Windows, so it would make games, movies, web browsers, or whatever, be corrected.

@MrChomiq Год назад

Well there are monitors with hardware calibration support.

@BrammyS Год назад

Got my second 60hz monitor running at 74hz without any issues so far.

@joaovguedes Год назад

Please review the Spectrum OLED

@ferenclippai1059 Год назад

32" 4k 144++hz is bwhere things get really good. Add in oled or 2k++ miniled and its REALLY good. Unfortunately, this doesn't exist and no gpu could drive it anyway.

@anthonyrizzo9043 Год назад

I would like to know if burn in is cumulative and can't actually be stopped, even if you do all the things we all talk about to avoid it.

@TheModeRed Год назад

Greetings! Can you take a look at the Innocn 40c1r? I have one and can't understand how for $399 a 40in ultrawide 3440x1440p 144hz monitor is not talked about.

@jamesmetz5147 Год назад

Thanks.

@SentenzaSenpai Год назад

Well so many answers to my questions, but that's not exactly what i need. I would like to find the "perfect" monitor for my use. I'm a console gamer but i've a gaming laptop to and i would like to use all this stuff with only one monitor. BTW i've a wishlist: 4K, preference for (curved) 32" to 27", HDR600 or best, OLED (lol i know there is nothing at the moment). If anybody have suggestion, i'll take it!

@williamprimeee Год назад

for the weird subpixel layouts cant you just turn the monitor upside down?

@sheharyarhyder8112 Год назад

I live in Canada and the lg monitor is 1050 cdn ($200 off from its regular price), would the asus monitor be worth the extra premium over the lg?

@infi84 Год назад

the best and sharpest text rendering is still without any smoothing applied, idk why smoothing is getting forced so much, I hated cleartype with a passion from the first time I ever saw it. I just pick a monitor PPI where the most commonly scaled text can be rendered pixel-perfect, which is usually under 100 ppi, and it absolutely hurts my soul that some programs do not give you an option to render pixel perfect text but force smoothing making it just look blurry and awful.

@thecwwshow8036 Год назад

I just want to know why 10 years ago everyone. I mean everyone wanted a matted screen. And then the past few years it’s gradually switch. It’s very weird.

@X4K94 Год назад

I am not sure if i should get a oled monitor or a 4k, whats better?

@rexizs6767 Год назад

can you review hp x27 not q or c version just hp x27 i've been using this monitor for about 1 week i think its quite good for its extremely low price

@metalsoso5460 9 месяцев назад

Start Menu and Left or Right arrow will split the screen automatically.

@Case_ Год назад

Also (one more comment, sorry), thank you for answering the "fake HDR" question so thoroughly and fairly, it has irked me in the past how dismissive you seemed to be about these monitors while, as you said here, HDR content truly does look different, even if your monitor is not "true" HDR, as long as it has a reasonable HDR mode. The new Windows HDR calibration helps a lot too. Generally the problem is obviously low contrast, especially with IPS panels, since most monitors lock brightness to 100% to get the highlights as bright as possible, which very much emphasizes all the usual IPS downsides like backlight bleed and IPS glow. I have however seen IPS monitors where HDR looks reasonably good in quite a few scenarios, like my current LG 27GN850 (which even allows brightness adjustment in HDR mode). But the best "fake" HDR monitor I've seen so far is my current secondary, the AOC AGON AG275QZN. The reason is fairly obvious - it is a VA panel, which means even with 100% brightness (which means peak of around 450 nits on mine) it still has black level of around 0,13 nits, effectively slightly darker than black level on the LG when it's set to 120 nits ;) So the contrast difference makes HDR "pop" reasonably well, despite no local dimming. The only downside is that it still has some black smearing, as VA panels do (but it is faster than most VA panels out there).

@jamesgunn9056 Год назад

A used monitor I see as as keeping an eye out for is the pg279q

@wherearemytesticles Год назад

multi-part q&a when?? XD

@sermerlin1 Год назад

Can someone maybe explain to me why precisely are display makers switching to non standard BGR, well technically why are they inverting? You could in fact flip BGR monitor do 180 rotation and you would have an RGB display (which you should not do because displays don't have stands and shouldn't be flipped on its own without some hard and stable support!)... But why are display makers suddenly shifting towards "BGR"? All latest TVs or modern be it IPS or VA are now BGR instead of RGB (Mine included, sony X90J, while previous X90F was RGB). Is it for more manufacturing yields? Is it for cheaper production by inverting? What is going on?

@ronanwaring3408 Год назад

The hdr mode of my 27GL850 is not worth turning on either at only 350 nit it's never looked that great, I would like it if you did a video showing monitors that has good enough "fake" hdr that makes them somewhat worth it, because right now true HDR is very pricey and I don't really have £800 for a monitor i'd rather use that for a better GPU.

@FriendNotFoeBand Год назад

Will we ever get a 24-inch high-refresh 1440p monitor? Low-key that is endgame for a ton of competitive fps players. I don't know why not one single company has attempted it.

@darkman237 Год назад

What if the monitor manufacturer put it into settings?

@hanyuchuang 10 месяцев назад

I believe you are misunderstanding the question for "can the screen coating be changed". I take it the question asking the DIY viability of changing the coating. The answer is no because the coating is part of the panel assembly.

@FrontsLeader Год назад

27:45 About the green thing, isn't it because the human eye see more shades of green or something?

@dimuborgir1987 4 месяца назад

i cant find m28u gigabyte so lg LG 27GR95QE-B got my7 attention ..is it better picture on oled 2k then 4k ips? which one should i buy ? around 150$ differece in serbia for oled but nowhere in stacks m27u for 650$

@Petch85 Год назад

5:00 I do not understand way Nvidia do not have an AI ClearType solution using tenser cores yet. Probably coming in the 5xxx series. 🤣

@Pyroteq Год назад

Windows 11 actually works extremely well for snapping Windows and is one of the primary reasons I upgraded from Windows 10. It even handles snapping half the screen on vertical monitors well. Much better than Windows 10. Fancy Zones the official Microsoft tool can also improve window snapping. Funnily enough I think window tiling is actually one of the features Microsoft has nailed better than both OSX and most Linux distros.

@user-xn7hw7we8g 8 месяцев назад

would it make sense to buy an hp omen x 27 1440p 240hz tn for 220 dollars? I found a listing for that price

@greggmacdonald9644 Год назад

The possibility of Apple's AR/VR headset to be used as a MicroLED display for a laptop/desktop PC is what's got me most excited right now. Done right, it could provide a very interesting new option, though even if it can serve that purpose, Apple may take steps to make it non-functional for anything that isn't an Apple product. For used monitors, my main concern would be why the seller is selling it, since failed pixels or intermittent problems would be two, obvious reasons why someone would.

@lixnix2018 Год назад

In Germany it is possible to buy a 4k 60hz OLED Monitor for approximately 900€ and same for 1440p 120hz+ monitors

@lixnix2018 Год назад

27 inch 4k oled

@GewelReal Год назад

18:08 I have never ever seen a backlight fail. Even 20 year old monitors that's been daily-ed I'm yet to see one where dead backlight was the reason it failed

@PainterVierax Год назад

it happened more frequently with neon backlights than leds (because of tubes lifespan and inverter circuits failing). But leds still do wear with usage (similarly to oled but in lesser amplitude) and they get less bright over time. A trick to make them more durable is to avoid using the full brightness capabilities as much as possible. Though, with a bit of electronics repair knowledge and actual parts easily available now it's relatively easy to replace old led backlight with some brand new led strip.

@manuelhernandez2017 Год назад

Where is the intro animation Tim?

@BlackJesus8463 Год назад

yup

@zergtoss1 Год назад

So with all this color talk… what color gamut is the gamer 1 and gamer 2 profiles in the 27 inch lg pled that let you use the lower latency das mode? And if latency doesn’t matter in a game should i he using srgb mode? I don’t use hdr, I either don’t set it up righr, the games don’t implement it well or I am on windows 10 not 11 or I just don’t favor it.

@whitegoodman7465 11 месяцев назад

You can manage windows easily in windows 11 by snapping to the left or right, corner to corner just as quick as putting the tab on a different monitor.

@Jesperkraakman Год назад

I tried making a matte monitor glossy, so I pulled of the matte layer and the screen turned completely white because the matte layer was also the polarization filter 😂 was a old monitor though 😅

@Steror Год назад

They're usually not the same layer. Maybe they were just glued together really tight. There are videos where people wet the monitor to let the glue weaken and then pull off only the matte layer.

@Daniel_WR_Hart 11 месяцев назад

@@Steror I did this recently, and the hardest part to get right (aside from not accidentally damaging the PCB for the power and menu buttons, for some models) is lifting the first corner of ONLY the matte finish. I find that it's easy if you soak it for 6 hours and reapply water every hour, and lift with your thumbnail instead of a knife, otherwise the knife could easily slip under the wrong layer.

@selectthedead Год назад

Always love new content of OLED monitors

@frankderks1150 Год назад

Sub pixel rendering is a problem for those who look at small letters with magnifying glasses making nose prints on the screen...

@techieg33k 11 месяцев назад

I really wonder if OLED on Linux KDE has the same issues as on Windows?

@SanHydronoid Год назад

18:53 Which game is that??

@dom_leary Год назад

Does monitor overclocking invalidate their warranties, or is that just Asus monitors? ;)

@MoonMage67 Год назад

not electromagnetic spectrum, just visible light spectrum.

@damientech88 Год назад

I'm pretty sure recent versions of edge respect windows cleartype by default. It used to be a custom flag.

@ahmadalmarri81 Год назад

I got the new Asus 2K OLED 240, nothing can match it in PC gaming. I tried PS5 and it feels so dim in comparison with normal OLED TV

@ahmadalmarri81 Год назад

@El Cactuar no 1440p

@ahmadalmarri81 Год назад

@El Cactuar 1440p is known as 2K or QHD

@ahmadalmarri81 Год назад

@El Cactuar search google for 2K monitors it will show only 1440p results. people want to call it 2K but it is technically not right.

@niknikmoore Год назад

Don't forget to LIKE the video

@SamanthaVimes177 Год назад

You kidding? My question was asked first and helped me genuinely understand how monitors interface with software SOOO much better. These videos are incredibly insightful! Thank you Tim!